For me it has gotta be Joanna Newsom. WTF her appeal is is beyond me.
― tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, and Radiohead lost me at "Kid A". Can't get into anything they've done since.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
OK, I'll stop. Actually I do "get" why somebody might buy into each of these, but I "don't get it".
― peepee (peepee), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― rebecca hampton (r h), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Led ZepFlaming LipsMercury Rev
heresies all, i know
― Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Elvis is Dead, Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
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― tk (tk), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link
SpiritualizedKraftwerk!!!
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― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Morg, Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
That said, I don't know what interests people in Ashanti, whom I don't loathe or even dislike but I find hard to care about.
Richard Marx. I don't loathe him either. In fact I think "Hazard" is a great song. Which confuses me even more, since everything else he's done has passed by me with zero impact.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― 121 onions (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway - i don't "get":
John Lennon solo (aside from Working Class Hero and Jealous Guy)
any of the Bastro / Squirrel Bait / King Kong stuff
Red Krayola (actually I do get it but i think they suck)
a good deal of M.I.A's album (just definitely NOT "Pull Up The People" - that song rules)
Merzbow
Antony & The Johnsons
Loretta Lynn
Joy Division
Le Savy Fav and Enon (God knows I've tried)
"grime"
Elvis Costello
Tsunami (except "Geniuses of Crack")
Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine
and many many many more. None of these are artists I *dislike,* you understand - these are all artists / genres that I have TRIED to appreciate at one time or another, for some reason or another.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
They're incredibly ordinary. I'd add dull, crass, horribly overproduced, need better tunes (even S Club 7 had the decency to provide some). Sigh. I suppose their best tunes must be on the albums or something.... The singles start to actively bore me before they have even finished (1:30?)
Beatles > OasisSpice Girls > Girls Aloud
And I don't even like the Spice Girls.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd still do Nadine though
< /obligatory >
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
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― molly, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Do Girls Aloud remind older guys of top 40 stuff they heard growing up? Is that it, nostalgia?
Ok, I've thought about it far too long already.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Had your ears syringed lately?
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
And be at least a decade younger, possibly female.
Otherwise they just seem utterly by numbers. Not so much out of control as just 'fairly fast' for the Top 40.
I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion round here!
totally awesome out of control Panzer-attack pop songs
"They're Not Gonna Get Usssss!!"
Ooops.. wrong band.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Hehe. Does the NME like them too?
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 26 February 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 27 February 2005 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― PB, Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't get the appeal of the Futureheads at all. Seems so pointlessly manic. Or the Libertines. Can't stand the Cure. The only rational explanation for my hatred of the New Pornographers would be that their music was playing when something horrible happened to me, but I've suppressed the memory.
― TayBridgeCatastrophe (TayBridge), Sunday, 27 February 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
The tendency to pick bands that are hugely critically adored seems contrived to me.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
what
― f ath, Monday, 28 February 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Because Drake sells even less than Zappa? Because Zappa has 75 CDs and Drake has 5? Because Drake offed himself after 3 studio albums and Zappa busted his ass releasing 2 or 3 a year for 30 years?
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horn (AaronHz), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Def Leppard
― sleeve, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
Whitney Houston. Some people on ILM act like she's unassailable!
― uncrut gems (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
you haven't read enough alfred or djp posts about "so emotional"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link
I have "how will I know" in my head every day so she obviously did something right.
― akm, Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:14 (four years ago) link
I thought Daft Punk was supposed to be, like, bangin' techno with rock influences?
wtf is this poppy gloss with guest singers?
what am I missing?
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
check out alive 1997 + second half of their first album
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
rock influences? hmmm “human after all” has a kinda of rock vibe but it’s a strange album... try “steam machine” and “the brainwasher” maybe
thank u my man, I knew I could count on you
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
Et Joostice Pour Toushttps://s6056.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/8004672295_132eec87be_b.jpg
― Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
disco?
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
definitely! but not really what I was expecting.
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
emerson lake and palmer i have geiven them many chances but i do not like anything they did!
― xzanfar, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
emerson lake and palmer i have given them many chances but i do not like anything they did!
― xzanfar, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
The Frogs
― Evan, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
real fuckin assholes that band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link
Anything vaguely post-punk recorded on the UK between 1978 and 1981 is like catnip to me but I’ve tried and tried and do not see the appeal of Swell Maps and Young Marble Giants.
― Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
Aw really? I think Nikki Sudden said the Swell Maps were best appreciated as a cross between T Rex and Can, but of course I disagree with him.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link
Never noticed much T Rex in there.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
Nor Can, tbh.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link
There is def a stylized aloofness about Sudden's schtick that I could see as his take on Bolan, but...
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link
No, Can's definitely in there. "Full Moon In My Pocket" uses the bassline from "Mother Sky" for a start.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
― xzanfar, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 3:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
perhaps try Emerson, Lake, and Powell instead
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
"Don't Throw Ashtrays At Me" etc.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link
I never noticed that about Full Moon/Mother Sky, seems obvious now that you mention it.
I get that Can are an inspiration for their background clatter but it's done to such a different effect.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link
Jowe Head's vocal on Full Moon is a charicature of Damo I guess?
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
It’s weird I love Nikki sudden/jacobites/epic’s solo material but can’t get into swell maps
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link
What I love about them is mainly gonzo adolescent lunacy, the cliquish camraderie of their interplay, comic book-like onomatopeic clanging and clattering, an affectation of elegance in entirely the wrong context...
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link
(xp) Well, they're not similar at all.
(xxp) No, I think he just can't sing very well.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link
"Big Empty Field" is the one Swell Maps song that has blown me away, and that one (and that one only, mind) really reminds me of This Heat--I admire their scrappier stuff but it hasn't stuck with me in the same way.
― Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link
I think it's just that the Maps are best understood as part of a pre-punk/proto-punk context that includes said artists, Krautrock, the Velvets/Stooges, etc, and IMO that's an easier point of entry than the postpunk scene they were part of
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link
Swell Maps fans - I've heard the two proper albums and liked about half of each. They have a bunch of compilation/outtake type records that I'm wary of. Are these on the level of the albums, or for completists only?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link
for completists, mostly, IMO, once you have Marineville and Jane and some of the singles in some form there are diminishing returns unless u are a true fan
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link
this one is good:
https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Train-Out-Of-It/release/326625
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
I don’t care for the comps (stuff is remixed, etc.). I love the first album, can leave everything else — so maybe I’m not the fanniest “fan.”
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link
The singles tracks don't seem to be collected together anywhere as far as I can tell, they're scattered on those compilations, which is an irritant.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link
The Peel Sessions are also hot sh!t. They’re on YouseTube.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
^^ very true
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link
and xp to Halfway yes and there's STILL one single that's not on CD afaik:
https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Real-Shocks-English-Verse-Monologues/master/246556
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link
― Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
xp Real Shocks is on both Train Out of it and International Rescue CD comps
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link
Nm you mean english verse and monologues dont you
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link