Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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lol

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 28 February 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

We're about to get into a golden era of dramatic adaptations here of this kind of stuff -- Super Pumped started last night, The Dropout starts later this week, the WeWork one in a couple of weeks...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

I think I'm going to watch some of them before I deem the era golden

mh, Monday, 28 February 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

xpost Well, gold-plated.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

reminds me of the weekend when my friend's son was insisting part of an action figure was real gold because the packaging said that. it actually meant shiny gold paint

mh, Monday, 28 February 2022 20:06 (two years ago) link

This is an amazing/terrifying concept: https://www.cana.com/

What do you think? I like the idea that you don't ship a bunch of water around the world. But I'm not loving the pay-per-drink business model. Maybe that's better than the standard printer model where you pay for all the colors when you run out of one of them.

No hot drinks at launch, which means no "tea, earl grey, hot" action.

DJI, Thursday, 3 March 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

wait... 3D printing wine?

I'm not buying it, Captain Picard

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 March 2022 00:44 (two years ago) link

lol, it's like Juicero meets Theranos

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 March 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

Juiceranos

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 March 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

Also.. I mean, doesn't good wine have to go with the gravelly soil in the vineyard? Whisky that's been aged in a barrel for many years?

This sounds like a fucking scam

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 March 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYIJzcxZXXo

DJI, Friday, 4 March 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link

recycles its cartridges for you. it gets up and walks to the curb and barfs out its trash? now i'm intrigued.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 4 March 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link

xps the materials say "a range of wines", nowhere do they claim to be "good"

(probably grape drink with vodka)

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 4 March 2022 02:13 (two years ago) link

probably be handy on the ISS

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 March 2022 02:15 (two years ago) link

I mean IN THEORY the barrel aging, the soil, the peat, is all just molecules, so IN THEORY it could replicate all that if it could be measured accurately in the first place. But I doubt it has been or that this is sophisticated enough to do that.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 4 March 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link

Looks completely worthless, thanks for sharing.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 4 March 2022 03:17 (two years ago) link

lol I thought this was the star trek thread at first because the season premiere of the Picard show does have him harvesting grapes and making wine

mh, Friday, 4 March 2022 03:19 (two years ago) link

too bad that's not a Kickstarter, I'd like to see how many dummies are setting $300-700 on fire

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 March 2022 03:29 (two years ago) link

automatic espresso machines aren't even good and all they have to do is grind beans, tamp them and push hot water through, they're not synthesizing Colombian crops

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 March 2022 03:30 (two years ago) link

Itโ€™s not 3d printing anything afaict. Itโ€™s a sodastream.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 4 March 2022 03:43 (two years ago) link

That is connected to the internet and charges per drink.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 4 March 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8v8GTM8.mp4

*hic* (cat), Friday, 4 March 2022 05:48 (two years ago) link

what i am gleaning from this is that cock is welcome, and i think thatโ€™s nice

*hic* (cat), Friday, 4 March 2022 05:53 (two years ago) link

if this was actually real it would be fuckin cool as hell

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 March 2022 08:58 (two years ago) link

They must be doing a marketing push today, saw a post from Simone Giertz (a usually awesome builder/maker Youtube person) about her role as a seed investor in the company. At least she didn't go down the NFT route.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 March 2022 09:01 (two years ago) link

I drink only NFTs now

Alba, Friday, 4 March 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link

I find it very hard to believe that isn't an outright scam.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 March 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link

"Yeah, it uses, um, molecules"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 March 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link

Like what the fuck is in that cartridge than can make merlot, coffee, lemonade & gin?

"molecules!" gimme a fucking break

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 March 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link

kinda wanna poll the staff photos but maybe every snake oil startup has a gallery like this, i donโ€™t browse enough of them to know

*hic* (cat), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

it's a sodastream. there are multiple cartridges.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

each bursting with molecules

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

It's borderline Ali G. "Everyfing is made o moleules. So wha if me had all the kinds of molecules in one machine, me could make anyfing"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

I mean, it's not wrong in a sense so broad it's being catcalled by a legion of dudes from Guys and Dolls

xp but I am proud of this terrible joke so I am posting it

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link

i got yr drink right here
it's called the musk-ateer
and here's a guy that says ...

sarahell, Sunday, 6 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

she is GETTING that emmy pic.twitter.com/wXo0aL1pte

— lucy (@heylucymay) April 8, 2022

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 8 April 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

that felt too uncomfortably real

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link

It was a pretty good series. Waiting on the final episode of Super Pumped on Sunday (well, the final one of this season -- there's going to be a second focused on Facebook, in line with Mike Isaac's forthcoming book on same).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 April 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link

I have trouble imagining workers actually expressing enthusiasm for having that dude as a boss / leader. I've only seen the first episode of Super Pumped so far and I can understand the workers sitting around fucking off and getting paid, or doing their tasks in the background, but actually enthusiastically cheering for dude's speeches?

sarahell, Sunday, 10 April 2022 07:36 (two years ago) link

Yet we see it happen. WeWork was notorious for it, the โ€œfuck you Carreyrouโ€ chant at Theranos occurred, people do buy in. Itโ€™s goofy as hell but there ya go.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 April 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link

Once a company reaches a certain size, you get a number of employees where their role isnโ€™t easily connected to what the company actually sells, and bizarre corporate sloganeering pops up. I think the majority of people at non-startups just kind of passively ignore it, but there are outliers who latch on to that internal marketing to justify their work lives

My impression is that startups, especially ones that donโ€™t turn a profit, push that company culture bit a lot harder because the company doesnโ€™t necessarily do anything yet!

mh, Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

i just wonder about the people who buy into it. the followers, as it were. otoh ... idk why i have trouble accepting this since Hitler and Trump but ... sometimes i have to be reminded

sarahell, Sunday, 10 April 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link

I think the majority of people at non-startups just kind of passively ignore it

yeah, this attitude I understand ... like, clerks at Walgreens don't seem really gung-ho about "Team Walgreens"

sarahell, Sunday, 10 April 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

Companies regularly place more demands on their workers than even a good, conscientious worker can satisfy. I always figured if I delivered somewhere between 90% and 95% of 'perfection' I was not just earning my pay, but an excellent employee. I totally ignored the motivational hoo-hah and quietly met my own standards.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

I totally ignored the motivational hoo-hah and quietly met my own standards.

Yup.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

Well you're hardly going to get yourself a waffle party with that attitude, are you?

kinder, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

I feel better already.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link

;) I'm enjoying Severance

kinder, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link


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