Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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Thread for general discussion of, and feeble resistance to, our new overpaid 20-something savant overlords, starting with this lovely article:

http://thebaffler.com/blog/2014/05/mouthbreathing_machiavellis

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:27 (four years ago) Permalink

is the baffler as smug and unreadable as it was in the late 90s/early 00s? to be frank all i ever got from them (or thomas frank solo) was a withering contempt for most of america, rather than any mournful concern.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:41 (four years ago) Permalink

haha to be frank see what I (unintentionally) did there?

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:41 (four years ago) Permalink

nerds with power

shudder

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:42 (four years ago) Permalink

This is the first Baffler thing I've bothered with in a while. I thought it had its moments back in its earlier incarnation -- there was an essay on cities and the "creative class" that I still refer to mentally sometimes. I think the internet has kind of made the sort of bullshit-skewering it specialized in more widespread and diffuse.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:46 (four years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, they had some good articles from time to time. there was one incredibly condescending and snide and yet fascinating one about gay pornography. unfortinately they also published ray carney's screed against tarantino and a lot of other worthless crap. and i always felt tom frank needed to have a few beer bottles smashed over his head.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Frank seems kind of worse to me now in his Harper's editorials. I always hated Lapham's and it feels like Frank is really trying his best to assume the mantle.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Anyway

In a widely covered secessionist speech at a Silicon Valley “startup school” last year, there was more than a hint of Moldbug (see video below). The speech, by former Stanford professor and Andreessen Horowitz partner Balaji Srinivasan, never mentioned Moldbug or the Dark Enlightenment, but it was suffused with neoreactionary rhetoric and ideas. Srinivasan used the phrase “the paper belt” to describe his enemies, namely the government, the publishing industries, and universities. The formulation mirrored Moldbug’s “Cathedral.” Srinivasan’s central theme was the notion of “exit”—as in, exit from democratic society, and entry into any number of corporate mini-states whose arrival will leave the world looking like a patchwork map of feudal Europe.

Forget universal rights; this is the true “opt-in society.”

An excerpt:

We want to show what a society run by Silicon Valley would look like. That’s where “exit” comes in . . . . It basically means: build an opt-in society, ultimately outside the US, run by technology. And this is actually where the Valley is going. This is where we’re going over the next ten years . . . [Google co-founder] Larry Page, for example, wants to set aside a part of the world for unregulated experimentation. That’s carefully phrased. He’s not saying, “take away the laws in the U.S.” If you like your country, you can keep it. Same with Marc Andreessen: “The world is going to see an explosion of countries in the years ahead—doubled, tripled, quadrupled countries.”

Srinivasan ticked through the signposts of the neoreactionary fantasyland: Bitcoin as the future of finance, corporate city-states as the future of government, Detroit as a loaded symbol of government failure and 3D-printed firearms as an example of emerging technology that defies regulation.

The speech succeeded in promoting the anti-democratic authoritarianism at the core of neoreactionary thought, while glossing over the attendant bigotry. This has long been a goal of some in the movement. One such moderate—if the word can be used in this context—is Patri Friedman, grandson of the late libertarian demigod Milton Friedman. The younger Friedman expressed the need for “a more politically correct dark enlightenment” after a public falling out with Yarvin in 2009.

Friedman has lately been devoting his time (and leveraging his family name) to raise money for the SeaSteading Institute, which, as the name suggests, is a blue-sea libertarian dream to build floating fiefdoms free of outside regulation and law. Sound familiar?

The principal backer of the SeaSteading project, Peter Thiel, is also an investor in companies run by Balaji Srinivasan and Curtis Yarvin. Thiel is a co-founder of PayPal, an original investor in Facebook and hedge fund manager, as well as being the inspiration for a villainous investor on the satirical HBO series Silicon Valley. Thiel’s extreme libertarian advocacy is long and storied, beginning with his days founding the Collegiate Network-backed Stanford Review. Lately he’s been noticed writing big checks for Ted Cruz.

He’s invested in Yarvin’s current startup, Tlon. Thiel invested personally in Tlon co-founder John Burnham. In 2011, at age 18, Burnham accepted $100,000 from Thiel to skip college and go directly into business. Instead of mining asteroids as he originally intended, Burnham wound up working on obscure networking software with Yarvin, whose title at Tlon is, appropriately enough, “benevolent dictator for life.”

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:57 (four years ago) Permalink

I love this stuff, these guys are like comic book supervillains.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:58 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah i dunno, this seems discountable. it's not going to get much traction.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:33 (four years ago) Permalink

i still think we shd take these guys out before they acquire sentience

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:35 (four years ago) Permalink

another school of thought says that they just need to experience a moment of humanity to temper their wild anti-humanist delusions

we could administer this cure from a safe distance thanks to their work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspagsTFvlg

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Been dismayed with The Baffler since it's new revival. Seems about as shrill as Adbusters these days.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:44 (four years ago) Permalink

OTOH, there's these guys to make fun of: http://nymag.com/news/features/laundry-apps-2014-5/#

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:46 (four years ago) Permalink

i still think we shd take these guys out before they acquire sentience

― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:35 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100%

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:10 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah i dunno, this seems discountable. it's not going to get much traction.

― display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:33 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd be more willing to discount it if these weren't people with money, political fever dreams, and the ability to build & destory things

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm not exactly alarmed yet but I am a little o_O

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:12 (four years ago) Permalink

these people aren't good at building things that people actually need to survive so I dunno - the rhetoric is horrible and these people are frightening, at the same time they're woefully inept

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:14 (four years ago) Permalink

fantastic article, thank you for sharing

famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:15 (four years ago) Permalink

A seafaring community of 10 plutocrats is probably going to do just fine. They can just take a private jet back to the US any time they need fresh virgins to feed on. They don't want the rest of us anyway.

popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Shouldn't that be Tlön, and holy shit we do not need techno-libertarians referencing Borges

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:20 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the setting up a new country idea sounded really good, hopefully it would end like jonestown

badg, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:21 (four years ago) Permalink

I am all in favor of techno-libertarian island

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:22 (four years ago) Permalink

me too. preferably one that will be underwater in a few decades.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:25 (four years ago) Permalink

tru

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:25 (four years ago) Permalink

im less worried about these creeps building their own bioshock dystopias than i am about them using their tremendous money and influence to undermine regulation and other democratic things (tm) at home

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah that is a more serious danger

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I wonder if we can convince them to relocate to Canada

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I think their politics might go over well in, like, Edmonton

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

It should be fun to watch what happens when the VC money starts to dry up.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:43 (four years ago) Permalink

they all scramble for the surviving corporate monoliths

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:44 (four years ago) Permalink

This Baffler article mentions Nick Land. That's kind of depressing, is he fully in that camp? I've only read some of his stuff but have liked work from his contemporaries.

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:46 (four years ago) Permalink

isn't his own camp bad enough???

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:54 (four years ago) Permalink

maybe! I'm out of the loop

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:56 (four years ago) Permalink

yes, nick land is fully in

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:19 (four years ago) Permalink

this is all a lil weird to me cos reading these dudes has been a minor internet fascination of mine for a long time

if anything, land's story is evidence against the thesis that an encounter with adulthood will chill these guys out: he was a philosophy professor in the 80s (?) and 90s, left for china at some point to be a journalist, was a pro-war neocon type in the early 00s and at some point during/after the 08 crash flipped to austrian economics, "race realism" (if you don't mind me using their euphemisms for a sec) and all the rest.

i feel super weird that even know this shit tbh

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:22 (four years ago) Permalink

the connection with silicon valley utopian-supremacy is only one leg of the thing, there are linkages to a lot of weird old righty type scenes that have been left behind by contemporary conservatism, which have been kept alive in its most public face by association with ron paul. but also the remnants of european throne-and-altar type stuff

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:25 (four years ago) Permalink

this isn't what I think of when I think of 'techno-utopianism' these dudes are just idiots

dude (Lamp), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:26 (four years ago) Permalink

really the most salient through-line is hostility to democracy.

xp yeah this thread title is a little narrow & off from the corey pein article

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:28 (four years ago) Permalink

feel like the broader 'apps with solve it'/obsessed with meritocracy and measurement/transnational professionalism stuff that permeates the valley and its politics is way more pernicious and worth countering than these dudes who cant help but marginalize themselves by being themselves

dude (Lamp), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel like these guys make better bad guys than the republican party, at least their politics are internally consistent

iatee, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:30 (four years ago) Permalink

idk i think their predilection for lingo and willingness to set up their own discursive zones is an important idea generator.

there's huge overlap with the PUA/men's rights scene, and *their* language and pop-psych antifeminism is reeeally short work way from being conservative canon

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

Definitely seems like there is at the root of a lot of it a bitterness stemming from a dissonance between the "meritocracy" these people have been sold on (in which their particular skillset is supposed to make them the fittest dudes) and the reality they grew up in, and the *other* reality they grew up in (having to attend high school and go on the dating scene and such) in which their supposed superior qualities didn't seem to help so much. I know this might sound like just a rehash of the "butthurt nerd" canard, but I think there's something about the combination of ego inflation AND deflation that they experience -- one world telling them they are geniuses and another telling them they are losers at the same time, that makes them want to remake the entire world in the image of the former.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:49 (four years ago) Permalink

Like you don't get this kind of worldview coming out of getting sand kicked in your face alone, it's more the rage that results from feeling entitled to alpha status and then getting sand kicked in your face.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:51 (four years ago) Permalink

yup

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:54 (four years ago) Permalink

And to cross reference that with the "men's rights" stuff, it's not unlike "I'm a *nice* and *intelligent* guy and yet hot babes are not throwing themselves at my feet like they are supposed to. Therefore women are defective and dangerous and I must use 'techniques' to disarm and conquer them."

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

is there an app for that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:07 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm really skeptical of 'just a thwarted nerd' type explanations. some people just end up believing this kind of shit for reasons that aren't readily explicable. in many cases it doesn't appear to be true.

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:24 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah 'chicks just didn't want him and he's not successful' doesn't explain peter thiel very well

iatee, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:32 (four years ago) Permalink

will plain ole megalomania do.

ryan, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

i haven't fully digested this, but i do agree that IDEO extremely sucks

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 02:51 (two months ago) Permalink

there's a hell of a lot to digest in there

the dissection of the Creative Commons/Lessig stuff really hits home. when all you have is the US-model copyright system as a lens..

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Zing really needs to let you change your DN so I can become “the howl of whiteness” right now

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

the money quote via twitter

Fascinating article by @gleemie on the invention of "design thinking" as a new form of expertise mobilized to defend (white) North American design from Asian competition https://t.co/HrUh1QHKWf pic.twitter.com/IVFwKulKcb

— Ben Tarnoff (@bentarnoff) May 15, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes. Because Asians can't design things, the Japanese automakers in the 1970s and 1980s slavishly copied the stunningly creative designs coming out of Detroit, like the fondly remembered AMC Gremlin, the Chrysler K-cars, and every boxy model of Cadillac. Except they were too dumb to design them to get 10 mpg and fall apart in four years, and other features US customers were demanding.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:11 (two months ago) Permalink

In how many ways is this entire thread really about taking a dump on Stanford, when Harvard dropouts are the REAL problem?

Or: do Stanford grads exist as the legitimizing engine to explain that the lottery winnings of Harvard dropouts are the products of genius and not borrowed sparks, accidental timing and fucking over your partners?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Europeans are only good at designing free stuff which nobody wants, and that’s why the Internet runs on Windows Server.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

In how many ways is this entire thread really about taking a dump on Stanford, when Harvard dropouts are the REAL problem?

i forget where i saw it but i recently saw someone argue that the change in valley culture can be dated to (but probably started before) the facebook IPO. that's when the word got out that there was banking-scale money available for undergrads who are smart enough to realize they are not brilliant, and maybe didn't major in STEM, but do want to be insanely wealthy. these people go to harvard.

it wasn't in this interview with fred turner, but it is good:

https://logicmag.io/03-dont-be-evil/.

some good quotes

Engineering culture is about making the product. If you make the product work, that’s all you’ve got to do to fulfill the ethical warrant of your profession. The ethics of engineering are an ethics of: Does it work? If you make something that works, you’ve done the ethical thing. It’s up to other people to figure out the social mission for your object. It’s like the famous line from the Tom Lehrer song: “‘Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department,’ says Wernher von Braun."

About ten years back, I spent a lot of time inside Google. What I saw there was an interesting loop. It started with, “Don't be evil.” So then the question became, “Okay, what's good?” Well, information is good. Information empowers people. So providing information is good. Okay, great. Who provides information? Oh, right: Google provides information. So you end up in this loop where what's good for people is what's good for Google, and vice versa. And that is a challenging space to live in.

Engineers try to do politics by changing infrastructure. That’s what they do. They tweak infrastructure. It’s a little bit like an ancient Roman trying to shape public debate by reconfiguring the Forum. “We’ll have seven new entrances instead of six, and the debate will change.” The engineering world doesn’t have a conception of how to intervene in debate that isn’t infrastructural.

At Burning Man, what you’re rehearsing is project-based collaborative labor. Engineers flowing in from the Valley are literally acting out the social structures on which Valley engineering depends. But they can do something at Burning Man that they can't do in the Valley: they can own the project. They can experience total “flow” with a team of their own choosing. In the desert, in weirdly perfect conditions, they can do what the firm promises them but can’t quite deliver.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:41 (two months ago) Permalink

look i'm not saying that murdering everyone with a college education is an ideal way to restructure a society, i'm just saying maybe it's time to reintroduce the idea to mainstream discourse

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

wired has a fun extract from a forthcoming book about the endlessly entertaining insanity of theranos: https://www.wired.com/story/a-new-look-inside-theranos-dysfunctional-corporate-culture/

some highlights:

Employees were Balwani’s minions. He expected them to be at his disposal at all hours of the day or night and on weekends. He checked the security logs every morning to see when they badged in and out. Every evening, around 7:30, he made a flyby of the engineering department to make sure people were still at their desks working.

With time, some employees grew less afraid of him and devised ways to manage him, as it dawned on them that they were dealing with an erratic man-child of limited intellect and an even more limited attention span. Arnav Khannah1, a young mechanical engineer who worked on the miniLab, figured out a surefire way to get Balwani off his back: answer his emails with a reply longer than 500 words. That usually bought him several weeks of peace because Balwani simply didn’t have the patience to read long emails. Another strategy was to convene a biweekly meeting of his team and invite Balwani to attend. He might come to the first few, but he would eventually lose interest or forget to show up.

While Holmes was fast to catch on to engineering concepts, Balwani was often out of his depth during engineering discussions. To hide it, he had a habit of repeating technical terms he heard others using. During a meeting with Khannah’s team, he latched onto the term “end effector,” which signifies the claws at the end of a robotic arm. Except Balwani didn’t hear “end effector,” he heard “endofactor.” For the rest of the meeting, he kept referring to the fictional endofactors. At their next meeting with Balwani two weeks later, Khannah’s team brought a PowerPoint presentation titled “Endofactors Update.” As Khannah flashed it on a screen with a projector, the five members of his team stole furtive glances at one another, nervous that Balwani might become wise to the prank. But he didn’t bat an eye and the meeting proceeded without incident. After he left the room, they burst out laughing.

The resignations infuriated Holmes and Balwani. The following day, they summoned the staff for an all-hands meeting in the cafeteria. Copies of The Alchemist, Paulo Coelho’s famous novel about an Andalusian shepherd boy who finds his destiny by going on a journey to Egypt, had been placed on every chair. Still visibly angry, Holmes told the gathered employees that she was building a religion. If there were any among them who didn’t believe, they should leave. Balwani put it more bluntly: Anyone not prepared to show complete devotion and unmitigated loyalty to the company should “get the fuck out.”

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 11:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Musk has been everywhere on twitter lately, and a response:

on a scale of “said you liked his band” to “publicly defended his union busting” what’s the most embarrassing thing you’ve done for a boyfriend

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) May 22, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:48 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGfvkjzLrNw

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 10:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Anyone not prepared to show complete devotion and unmitigated loyalty to the company should “get the fuck out.”

The only correct answer to such a demand would be for everyone paid more than a bare living wage to stand up in unison and leave.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Copies of The Alchemist, Paulo Coelho’s famous novel about an Andalusian shepherd boy who finds his destiny by going on a journey to Egypt, had been placed on every chair. 

the only correct answer to such a display of bad taste would be etc etc.

lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol, crossover with relationship dealbreakers thread- an ex gf once tried to get me to read that book. I mean, it wasn't a dealbreaker as such then, but it would be now.

Spiderman pointing at himself.img (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Trying to get me to read a damn book like some nerd

Spiderman pointing at himself.img (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Started watching Wild Wild Country and was thinking a lot about how much Silicon Valley culture likely owes to the Osho phenomenon (and of course other similar phenomena that were occurring simultaneously).

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 27 May 2018 23:13 (one month ago) Permalink

finished carreyrou's theranos book, and man...

one of the wildest things is that holmes presented her original idea for a device to her stanford professor and he was so blown away by it that he vouched for her and her company for years afterward. and as far as i can tell her proposal was at the same level of detail as an explanation of the star trek tricorder? it sounds kind of cool, and you have some half-assed ideas for mechanisms, but it's basically just pure fiction. that endorsement helped opened up silicon valley doors for her, even though there's not much evidence that she was anything more than a reasonably smart kid who was good at selling bullshit to credulous people with money.

there are some weird class things, too. she and her family were really well connected--the father of her childhood friend was a venture capitalist who invested a million dollars right when they were starting out!--but her dad was jealous of his more successful peers and angry that previous generations had squandered the family fortune.

people at the company were raising red flags about elizabeth lying about the technology and finances in 2006, but somehow she managed to purge everyone who opposed her and things just kept rolling along like that for another decade.

circles, Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

Kill the tech bro, save the world: how CEOs became Hollywood's new supervillains

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jun/06/tech-bros-ceo-hollywood-supervillains

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 June 2018 18:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Yup they are now the stock villains of my generation.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Just needs the next step of their ideology actually being at issue. Iron Man's villains are bad Tony Starks but the things Tony Stark stands for remain intact. SPECTRE's villains have a scheme to replace spies with apps or something, but they're cynically exploiting the government, when it would have been way more interesting for them to be true believers in their efficient, cutting-edge, market-driven solutions etc. I am kinda surprised there hasn't been an "evil Uber" movie with self-driving cars that turn against us or whose hailing app compels the drivers to carry out different pieces of an evil crime or w/e.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Those tend to be based around social media, as obviously kids know a lot less than grownups about the web.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Wait, wasn’t there that thriller a few years back where the villain was Tim Robbins as a Gates/Jobs oligarch type?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 9 June 2018 22:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Scorpio on the Simpsons?

koogs, Saturday, 9 June 2018 22:14 (one month ago) Permalink

but tbf 90s/early 00s Bill Gates-y villains feel like a different thing than the villainous "disruptive" app developer of today

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:05 (one month ago) Permalink

RECALCULATING

View To a Kill's Max Zorin controlled access to a resource - computing power - and was a classic Bond villain in that regard. Tomorrow Never Dies' Elliott Carver was a media baron, but he didn't want to use disinfo campaigns as a direct means of accomplishing his goals.

I think there might be a new flavor to our century's monopolist tech villains, in that they choose to use everyday reliance on technology to achieve their nefarious goals, and they aren't all played by dudes over 45 anymore, but the jury's out until I spend the time to watch these shitty films (again) and really pay attention to the boring, paper-thin plots.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 June 2018 00:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Elizabeth Holmes indicted on federal wire fraud charges

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:35 (one month ago) Permalink

yay

about halfway thru bad blood right now and it’s a compelling mixture of ‘haha these corporate dumbasses deserve each other, how did this go on for so long’ and ‘wow these sociopaths really fucked a lot of lives on their way to jail’

CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Pretty much!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:41 (one month ago) Permalink

And Carreyrou with the perfect own.

"First they say you're crazy, then they fight you and then all of a sudden, you change the world." https://t.co/a5buw8RnBD

— John Carreyrou (@JohnCarreyrou) June 15, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:35 (one month ago) Permalink

lmao

🙄✊🍆 pic.twitter.com/kDXWfkWnow

— Quantian📉 (@quantian1) June 16, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:05 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

An extremely good thread for this thread in turn.

Okay, now let's talk about the history of futurism in @WIRED. There is a ton here, but I think I've settle on a handful of articles that illustrate the broader trend.#wiredarchive

— davekarpf (@davekarpf) July 12, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2018 20:26 (one week ago) Permalink

oh man do I remember that Long Boom issue and how stupid it seemed at the time

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 July 2018 20:47 (one week ago) Permalink

I just realized my arc with Wired Magazine has basically been a leading indicator of my arc with
SV & the Bay Area - loved it, then realized it was actually overpriced, largely mediocre and driven by zealous marketing, now just find it kind of pitiable and look for the decent spots in a sea of drying mud

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 July 2018 20:55 (one week ago) Permalink

well, I like *my* neighborhood

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 July 2018 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Speaking as someone standing in mud wait hold on

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2018 20:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Everything’s relative. I live up the street from Trump.

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:16 (one week ago) Permalink

that's a good thread! Wired has long been my shorthand for the 90s iteration of the wide-eyed fusion of techno-utopianism and ostensibly countercultural libertarianism (which fusion, circa 1970, you would have found in the overlaps between bucky fuller and stewart brand). great to have that laid out, with links, in one convenient place.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 14 July 2018 00:58 (six days ago) Permalink

when i got to college in the early 90s my freshman year roommate described wired as "mondo 2000 for businessmen" which is still the best description i've ever heard

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:15 (six days ago) Permalink

(of it)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:16 (six days ago) Permalink

as a college freshman I’d have been like “what’s mondo 5000?”

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:36 (six days ago) Permalink

I had a bunch of issues of Mondo 2000 when they were new in high school. That was my shit.

dan selzer, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:45 (six days ago) Permalink

yay

about halfway thru bad blood right now and it’s a compelling mixture of ‘haha these corporate dumbasses deserve each other, how did this go on for so long’ and ‘wow these sociopaths really fucked a lot of lives on their way to jail’

― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 15, 2018 5:39 PM (four weeks ago)

yeah, same here. ridiculously compelling book

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:45 (six days ago) Permalink

Got the audiobook on hold…

devops mom (silby), Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:56 (six days ago) Permalink

Dave Karpf's book Analytic Activism changed my whole game btw highly recommended

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:21 (four days ago) Permalink

Yeah the Bad Blood story is a traet, as they say. Can't wait for the company to finally dissolve next month.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:23 (four days ago) Permalink


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