Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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Thread for general discussion of, and feeble resistance to, our new overpaid 20-something savant overlords, starting with this lovely article:

http://thebaffler.com/blog/2014/05/mouthbreathing_machiavellis

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:27 (eight years ago) link

is the baffler as smug and unreadable as it was in the late 90s/early 00s? to be frank all i ever got from them (or thomas frank solo) was a withering contempt for most of america, rather than any mournful concern.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:41 (eight years ago) link

haha to be frank see what I (unintentionally) did there?

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:41 (eight years ago) link

nerds with power

shudder

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:42 (eight years ago) link

This is the first Baffler thing I've bothered with in a while. I thought it had its moments back in its earlier incarnation -- there was an essay on cities and the "creative class" that I still refer to mentally sometimes. I think the internet has kind of made the sort of bullshit-skewering it specialized in more widespread and diffuse.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:46 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, they had some good articles from time to time. there was one incredibly condescending and snide and yet fascinating one about gay pornography. unfortinately they also published ray carney's screed against tarantino and a lot of other worthless crap. and i always felt tom frank needed to have a few beer bottles smashed over his head.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:48 (eight years ago) link

Frank seems kind of worse to me now in his Harper's editorials. I always hated Lapham's and it feels like Frank is really trying his best to assume the mantle.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:53 (eight years ago) link

Anyway

In a widely covered secessionist speech at a Silicon Valley “startup school” last year, there was more than a hint of Moldbug (see video below). The speech, by former Stanford professor and Andreessen Horowitz partner Balaji Srinivasan, never mentioned Moldbug or the Dark Enlightenment, but it was suffused with neoreactionary rhetoric and ideas. Srinivasan used the phrase “the paper belt” to describe his enemies, namely the government, the publishing industries, and universities. The formulation mirrored Moldbug’s “Cathedral.” Srinivasan’s central theme was the notion of “exit”—as in, exit from democratic society, and entry into any number of corporate mini-states whose arrival will leave the world looking like a patchwork map of feudal Europe.

Forget universal rights; this is the true “opt-in society.”

An excerpt:

We want to show what a society run by Silicon Valley would look like. That’s where “exit” comes in . . . . It basically means: build an opt-in society, ultimately outside the US, run by technology. And this is actually where the Valley is going. This is where we’re going over the next ten years . . . [Google co-founder] Larry Page, for example, wants to set aside a part of the world for unregulated experimentation. That’s carefully phrased. He’s not saying, “take away the laws in the U.S.” If you like your country, you can keep it. Same with Marc Andreessen: “The world is going to see an explosion of countries in the years ahead—doubled, tripled, quadrupled countries.”

Srinivasan ticked through the signposts of the neoreactionary fantasyland: Bitcoin as the future of finance, corporate city-states as the future of government, Detroit as a loaded symbol of government failure and 3D-printed firearms as an example of emerging technology that defies regulation.

The speech succeeded in promoting the anti-democratic authoritarianism at the core of neoreactionary thought, while glossing over the attendant bigotry. This has long been a goal of some in the movement. One such moderate—if the word can be used in this context—is Patri Friedman, grandson of the late libertarian demigod Milton Friedman. The younger Friedman expressed the need for “a more politically correct dark enlightenment” after a public falling out with Yarvin in 2009.

Friedman has lately been devoting his time (and leveraging his family name) to raise money for the SeaSteading Institute, which, as the name suggests, is a blue-sea libertarian dream to build floating fiefdoms free of outside regulation and law. Sound familiar?

The principal backer of the SeaSteading project, Peter Thiel, is also an investor in companies run by Balaji Srinivasan and Curtis Yarvin. Thiel is a co-founder of PayPal, an original investor in Facebook and hedge fund manager, as well as being the inspiration for a villainous investor on the satirical HBO series Silicon Valley. Thiel’s extreme libertarian advocacy is long and storied, beginning with his days founding the Collegiate Network-backed Stanford Review. Lately he’s been noticed writing big checks for Ted Cruz.

He’s invested in Yarvin’s current startup, Tlon. Thiel invested personally in Tlon co-founder John Burnham. In 2011, at age 18, Burnham accepted $100,000 from Thiel to skip college and go directly into business. Instead of mining asteroids as he originally intended, Burnham wound up working on obscure networking software with Yarvin, whose title at Tlon is, appropriately enough, “benevolent dictator for life.”

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:57 (eight years ago) link

I love this stuff, these guys are like comic book supervillains.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:58 (eight years ago) link

yeah i dunno, this seems discountable. it's not going to get much traction.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:33 (eight years ago) link

i still think we shd take these guys out before they acquire sentience

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:35 (eight years ago) link

another school of thought says that they just need to experience a moment of humanity to temper their wild anti-humanist delusions

we could administer this cure from a safe distance thanks to their work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspagsTFvlg

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:41 (eight years ago) link

Been dismayed with The Baffler since it's new revival. Seems about as shrill as Adbusters these days.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:44 (eight years ago) link

OTOH, there's these guys to make fun of: http://nymag.com/news/features/laundry-apps-2014-5/#

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:46 (eight years ago) link

i still think we shd take these guys out before they acquire sentience

― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:35 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100%

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah i dunno, this seems discountable. it's not going to get much traction.

― display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:33 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd be more willing to discount it if these weren't people with money, political fever dreams, and the ability to build & destory things

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I'm not exactly alarmed yet but I am a little o_O

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:12 (eight years ago) link

these people aren't good at building things that people actually need to survive so I dunno - the rhetoric is horrible and these people are frightening, at the same time they're woefully inept

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:14 (eight years ago) link

fantastic article, thank you for sharing

famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:15 (eight years ago) link

A seafaring community of 10 plutocrats is probably going to do just fine. They can just take a private jet back to the US any time they need fresh virgins to feed on. They don't want the rest of us anyway.

popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:18 (eight years ago) link

Shouldn't that be Tlön, and holy shit we do not need techno-libertarians referencing Borges

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:20 (eight years ago) link

I thought the setting up a new country idea sounded really good, hopefully it would end like jonestown

badg, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:21 (eight years ago) link

I am all in favor of techno-libertarian island

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:22 (eight years ago) link

me too. preferably one that will be underwater in a few decades.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:25 (eight years ago) link

tru

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:25 (eight years ago) link

im less worried about these creeps building their own bioshock dystopias than i am about them using their tremendous money and influence to undermine regulation and other democratic things (tm) at home

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah that is a more serious danger

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if we can convince them to relocate to Canada

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I think their politics might go over well in, like, Edmonton

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:29 (eight years ago) link

It should be fun to watch what happens when the VC money starts to dry up.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:43 (eight years ago) link

they all scramble for the surviving corporate monoliths

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:44 (eight years ago) link

This Baffler article mentions Nick Land. That's kind of depressing, is he fully in that camp? I've only read some of his stuff but have liked work from his contemporaries.

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:46 (eight years ago) link

isn't his own camp bad enough???

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:54 (eight years ago) link

maybe! I'm out of the loop

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:56 (eight years ago) link

yes, nick land is fully in

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:19 (eight years ago) link

this is all a lil weird to me cos reading these dudes has been a minor internet fascination of mine for a long time

if anything, land's story is evidence against the thesis that an encounter with adulthood will chill these guys out: he was a philosophy professor in the 80s (?) and 90s, left for china at some point to be a journalist, was a pro-war neocon type in the early 00s and at some point during/after the 08 crash flipped to austrian economics, "race realism" (if you don't mind me using their euphemisms for a sec) and all the rest.

i feel super weird that even know this shit tbh

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:22 (eight years ago) link

the connection with silicon valley utopian-supremacy is only one leg of the thing, there are linkages to a lot of weird old righty type scenes that have been left behind by contemporary conservatism, which have been kept alive in its most public face by association with ron paul. but also the remnants of european throne-and-altar type stuff

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:25 (eight years ago) link

this isn't what I think of when I think of 'techno-utopianism' these dudes are just idiots

dude (Lamp), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:26 (eight years ago) link

really the most salient through-line is hostility to democracy.

xp yeah this thread title is a little narrow & off from the corey pein article

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:28 (eight years ago) link

feel like the broader 'apps with solve it'/obsessed with meritocracy and measurement/transnational professionalism stuff that permeates the valley and its politics is way more pernicious and worth countering than these dudes who cant help but marginalize themselves by being themselves

dude (Lamp), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:28 (eight years ago) link

I feel like these guys make better bad guys than the republican party, at least their politics are internally consistent

iatee, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:30 (eight years ago) link

idk i think their predilection for lingo and willingness to set up their own discursive zones is an important idea generator.

there's huge overlap with the PUA/men's rights scene, and *their* language and pop-psych antifeminism is reeeally short work way from being conservative canon

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Definitely seems like there is at the root of a lot of it a bitterness stemming from a dissonance between the "meritocracy" these people have been sold on (in which their particular skillset is supposed to make them the fittest dudes) and the reality they grew up in, and the *other* reality they grew up in (having to attend high school and go on the dating scene and such) in which their supposed superior qualities didn't seem to help so much. I know this might sound like just a rehash of the "butthurt nerd" canard, but I think there's something about the combination of ego inflation AND deflation that they experience -- one world telling them they are geniuses and another telling them they are losers at the same time, that makes them want to remake the entire world in the image of the former.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Like you don't get this kind of worldview coming out of getting sand kicked in your face alone, it's more the rage that results from feeling entitled to alpha status and then getting sand kicked in your face.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:51 (eight years ago) link

yup

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:54 (eight years ago) link

And to cross reference that with the "men's rights" stuff, it's not unlike "I'm a *nice* and *intelligent* guy and yet hot babes are not throwing themselves at my feet like they are supposed to. Therefore women are defective and dangerous and I must use 'techniques' to disarm and conquer them."

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:58 (eight years ago) link

is there an app for that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:07 (eight years ago) link

i'm really skeptical of 'just a thwarted nerd' type explanations. some people just end up believing this kind of shit for reasons that aren't readily explicable. in many cases it doesn't appear to be true.

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:24 (eight years ago) link

yeah 'chicks just didn't want him and he's not successful' doesn't explain peter thiel very well

iatee, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:32 (eight years ago) link

will plain ole megalomania do.

ryan, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:37 (eight years ago) link

Well you're hardly going to get yourself a waffle party with that attitude, are you?

kinder, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:46 (nine months ago) link

I feel better already.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:48 (nine months ago) link

;) I'm enjoying Severance

kinder, Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:50 (nine months ago) link

Having a couple of times in my life been around cultish professors or bosses and gotten taken in by them (though nothing to those extremes) I found myself kind of willingly suspending disbelief just because (1) it was sort of fun and (2) it can be self-serving to do so, since true believers tend to reap benefits. I always maintained a little bit of psychic distance and had almost a split consciousness about it, but I get it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 April 2022 23:49 (nine months ago) link

Sucks that the main takeaway from Steve Jobs' story is that everyone thinks you have to be an asshole cult leader to be an effective CEO.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 April 2022 02:55 (nine months ago) link

Now speaking of cults

Elon has decided not to join our board. I sent a brief note to the company, sharing with you all here. pic.twitter.com/lfrXACavvk

— Parag Agrawal (@paraga) April 11, 2022

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 April 2022 03:25 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

Perfect.

VC Marc Andreessen has railed against cities like San Francisco for failing to build more housing.

But when his own hyper-rich, manicured SF suburb proposed a zoning change to allow a small number of multifamily homes, Andreessen and his wife wrote this. https://t.co/YzqdfSV20q pic.twitter.com/Aq9HhDpKPk

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) August 5, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 August 2022 14:59 (six months ago) link

the egg man is bad

mh, Friday, 5 August 2022 15:01 (six months ago) link

This guy on Hacker News is buying up the entire town of Pine Bluff, Arkansas for reasons that seem unclear even to him. Someone please help him go home to his children pic.twitter.com/6wO0JIyxQ1

— Brooks Otterlake (@i_zzzzzz) August 15, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 August 2022 21:02 (five months ago) link

His twitter handle is the same as his username there, it's just post after post of him getting robbed by Pine Bluff tweakers.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 August 2022 21:58 (five months ago) link

a new wrinkle I didn't see yesterday

oh. pic.twitter.com/TFiddlxQAA

— Amy Hoy (@amyhoy) August 15, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 August 2022 21:59 (five months ago) link

Pine Bluff thing is like one of those great, long, self-owning threads slowly documenting a guy's deranged and ill-informed home renovations, or hapless efforts to establish a utopian compound or whatever.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 15 August 2022 22:03 (five months ago) link

that falls under the reddit DIY-fail thred or whatever

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:03 (five months ago) link

lol great minds xp again

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:03 (five months ago) link

twit’s creek

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 August 2022 22:31 (five months ago) link

this is like if something from the SA forums got VC money

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:08 (five months ago) link

lmao max phoned this guy

https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-man-who-bought-pine-bluff-arkansas

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:54 (five months ago) link

my "read max" subscription money going to good use

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 22:35 (five months ago) link

omg of course he's a utahn

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 22:39 (five months ago) link

I enjoyed this bit:

New York was terrible, in the ‘80s. Everything they’re saying about Pine Bluff now they were saying about New York in the ‘80s! And I sure wish I could have bought some real estate in New York in the 80s!”

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 09:00 (five months ago) link

he comes off more sympathetic in max's interview than I expected, but the initial plan of just buying a huge warehouse for a maker space/entertainment venue/place for his existing businesses without making sure it's close-ish to a population center is wild

a lot of cities have those amenities, so the target market is... people who want to drive 45 minutes from Little Rock to do stuff?

we need pplains in here for the arkansas view

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:07 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3c_pJ_CLJQ

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 15:48 (five months ago) link

the initial plan of just buying a huge warehouse for a maker space/entertainment venue/place for his existing businesses without making sure it's close-ish to a population center is wild

it's been done before by various people with various levels of success ... on the one hand you have Las Vegas and the current incarnation of Burning Man ... on the other hand you have this guy, as well as stuff in between like the guy who bought a town in Nevada and then there was a fire that burned like 90% of it ... though that guy had done something similar in an urban area and had gotten displaced, so he had an existing community of people as well as some experience

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 18:40 (five months ago) link

I was just randomly reading a reddit thread of purported real estate investors discussing (celebrating really) that arkansas is the most landlord friendly state in the country. Fucking bleak stuff. I believe one of them said it was a crime with jail time to stay in an apartment without paying the rent.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:05 (five months ago) link

Texas is also very pro-landlord. Like, if you look at the civil code related to residential tenants and tenants rights, and you are only familiar with the laws in states like California and New York, you would be shocked and/or confused.

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:10 (five months ago) link

sometimes this site really delivers pic.twitter.com/dJmlYRF4ZZ

— cathode ray theory (@said_mitch) August 18, 2022

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:19 (five months ago) link

so apparently the guy who bought a bunch of real estate in that arkansas town has recordings and transcripts from the city meetings where he was trying to pitch his plans on his own website

it's him trying to get someone to walk through and tell him what he'd need to fix, and they keep explaining that it's a change in zoning, he needs plans signed off by an engineer and completed, etc.

I mean, there are areas of the country with less stringent building and occupancy codes, but dude bought a giant warehouse and adjoining buildings and wants to use them for commercial purposes!

mh, Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:04 (five months ago) link

it's been done before by various people with various levels of success ... on the one hand you have Las Vegas and the current incarnation of Burning Man ... on the other hand you have this guy, as well as stuff in between like the guy who bought a town in Nevada and then there was a fire that burned like 90% of it ... though that guy had done something similar in an urban area and had gotten displaced, so he had an existing community of people as well as some experience

― sarahell

this is one of the settings for _summer fun_, the trans brian wilson book i'm reading for my book club...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:46 (five months ago) link

I think buying abandoned real estate and attempting to use it as-is is different from building an entertainment city mostly from scratch or building a temporary city in the desert, though? This isn’t “if you build it,” it’s “if I get them to turn electrical service back on” or at least it was until someone stole his walls

Unless we’re not talking about the Arkansas guy

mh, Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:54 (five months ago) link

it's him trying to get someone to walk through and tell him what he'd need to fix, and they keep explaining that it's a change in zoning, he needs plans signed off by an engineer and completed, etc.

I mean, there are areas of the country with less stringent building and occupancy codes, but dude bought a giant warehouse and adjoining buildings and wants to use them for commercial purposes!

― mh, Thursday, August 18, 2022 3:04 PM (two hours ago)

this is a lot of what the org I work for does tbh. part of this guy's problem is the way the system works ... like, it is highly unlikely one person will be able to tell him everything he would need to do, and there's a lot of if/then at play ...
if you want this, the process involves x, but if you are willing to do it somewhat differently, you could maybe avoid doing x, but you would have to do y.
the existing structure / condition / etc of the building would need to be determined to meet certain criteria in order for him to do x, but a licensed engineer would have to actually do a study and calculations and find out if it does meet those criteria. If it does, then the process involves x, if it doesn't, then, before you can even think about doing x, you would need to do z, and maybe, instead of doing z and then doing x, you might want to re-think the whole thing ...

sarahell, Friday, 19 August 2022 00:46 (five months ago) link

yes, the absolutely basic thing is to make a proposed plan, and hire an engineer

he seemed to just show up to meetings and propose completely different things every time with no blueprints or engineering assessment, just “hey guys but can I do this instead”

I mean, the way the system works may be convoluted beyond that, but that’s entry level “how do I shot occupancy”

also every time he describes the site it reminds me of an EPA superfund site in my city that’s getting slowly developed with so many caveats

mh, Friday, 19 August 2022 03:09 (five months ago) link

"an" engineer ... dude, you might need structural, mechanical, and civil engineers depending on the project ...

sarahell, Friday, 19 August 2022 03:39 (five months ago) link

generally, the first person you go to is an architect

sarahell, Friday, 19 August 2022 03:40 (five months ago) link

yes

mh, Friday, 19 August 2022 12:59 (five months ago) link

move fast and break stuff amirite

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2022 14:54 (five months ago) link

everyone otm re pine bluff itt. ((man alive also getting points for knowing about the state's criminal, not civil, penalties against renters (which is a whole other subject.))

I can't talk about Pine Bluff. It's sad, it's tragic, it's a whole damn city that's dying a slow death.

But man. I won't say I enjoyed that man's misfortunes, but I sure did enjoy reading about them.

pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:35 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4M7pRYt.jpg

A few years ago, the paper had a story featuring the mayor pointing at different piles of rubble in town, going "You see this shit?"

pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:37 (five months ago) link

I know, I know, in the UK they point at potholes.

pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:38 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GODvMDN.png

Town so damn broke, the mcdonalds only got one arch

pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:41 (five months ago) link

That's some pretty impressive rubble.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 03:43 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55lqCerTvVA

CEDELL SAID COME ON DOWN.

pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:43 (five months ago) link

A few years ago, the paper had a story featuring the mayor pointing at different piles of rubble in town, going "You see this shit?"

― pplains, Thursday, September 1, 2022 8:37 PM (two days ago)

she should visit Oakland! So many piles of rubble to point at!

sarahell, Sunday, 4 September 2022 04:47 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

the parallel valleys https://t.co/RxD3iB2vlo pic.twitter.com/4o7Ush2J1V

— kate conger (@kateconger) September 26, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 September 2022 23:02 (four months ago) link

They finally put this genius on the 10 o'clock news:
https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/theft-causing-problems-for-man-wanting-to-bring-science-museum-to-pine-bluff/

science-museum and pine-bluff in the same url. I finally lived to see the day.

pplains, Saturday, 1 October 2022 02:51 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Elizabeth Holmes gets 11-year sentence.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-scammer-11-years-prison-1234630584/

nickn, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:56 (two months ago) link

I didn't realize she was expecting a second kid... that's rough
She probably deserves it, but the kids don't

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:12 (two months ago) link

My mind went immediately to "she got pregnant to get sympathy/a shorter sentence."

nickn, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:14 (two months ago) link

Ha I thought the same thing

And of course the prisons are full of parents, so...

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:14 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Imagine if every Book is converted into an Animated Book and made 10x more engaging. AI will do this. Huge opportunity here to disrupt Kindle and Audible.

— Gaurav Munjal (@gauravmunjal) January 21, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:25 (one week ago) link


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