anyway, we just finished this last night.
still catching up on HBO shows after being HBO-less for years. might watch Deadwood next. haven't seen Game of Thrones either. and did want to watch True Detective but now there is some sorta horrible internet backlash or something? i thought everyone loved it. or maybe they did and now they don't.
also might re-watch Sopranos. never saw last season. i've been watching Boardwalk Empire on my own. enjoying that.
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 May 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
also yeah sheesh nora. how is she not famous? so good. i hope that doesn't end up being the best part of her life. though it might be. kinda hard to top.
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 May 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
First season True Detective good. Second season bad.
― groovypanda, Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
Nora was really good as the requisite Marge Gunderson character in the most recent season of Fargo, too.
― henry s, Sunday, 20 May 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Carrie Coon has been getting more parts, including inexplicably voicing like three lines for a computer animated Marvel movie character(hope she got paid good)
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
maria wasn't feeling deadwood after the first episode. she liked the first episode of true detective though.
deadwood made me nostalgic for hell on wheels! i loved that show. sometimes i felt like the only one who did. someone else must have watched it. it was on for awhile. hell on wheels also had a very satisfying last season!
the preacher in the leftovers kinda reminded me of the swede on hell on wheels a little. especially the way they both would get aggro and nutso. though the swede obviously a psychopath.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/the-leftovers-nora-hulking-out.gif
― scott seward, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
deadwood made me nostalgic for hell on wheels
never thought a sentence about Deadwood would make me sad
― Simon H., Monday, 21 May 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
I'd really love to see a stage production with CC
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
Started rewatching tonight, probably just the first season. Eerie parallels with what's going on now.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 May 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link
Enjoyed the first season so much, I'll carry on--and hope that I'm as moved by the final episode this time as everyone else was.
E9 in the first season, the episode where they flash back to life before the Departure--which occupies the last five minutes--is, I think, one of the greatest single episodes of TV I've ever seen. The way they casually introduce Patti as one of Laurie's patients, or Doris as the dog breeder, the way Jill is a goofy outgoing kid so different from her later moroseness, the hints throughout (either Patti's verbal warnings or weird things like the passing car that asks Kevin if he's ready) that something's about to happen, the Jody Reynolds song that begins the episode as Kevin's jogging, and the ending with Laurie looking over at the ultrasound (and the way they wisely don't even cut to the image), it's all so good.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 May 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
I watched this show in its entirety for the first time a couple of months ago and loved it. one of my favourites
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 May 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
i love it so much, maybe i will do a quarantine rewatch
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 May 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link
thinking the same tbh
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 8 May 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link
I’m considering watching this after reading rave reaviews but is it all dark/sad or are there some lighter touches ?We might not want to get into too heavy stuff at the moment...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 May 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link
just started watching this. the stoning scene in season 1 is one of the most visceral things I've ever seen on TV
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 8 May 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link
The first few episodes and other parts of the first season are pretty dark (and in some parts, edgy in a slightly cruel and silly way). But the show gets funnier and warmer as the seasons go on, and there are some Lost-like mysteries to keep you distracted (with much better resolutions). All three seasons are terrific in different ways. The stoning mentioned above is the (pretty horrible) cutoff point, and after that, nasty things still happen occasionally, but without the sadism. Not sure if that sounds like a good writeup, but this was prob my favourite show of the past 5+ years alongside Better Call Saul & Halt and Catch Fire.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 May 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link
The first season, for the most part, is very somber. Kevin has a line midway, something he texts to his daughter, that's maybe the funniest line in all three seasons, but that's about it. Lots of humour is S2, courtesy Patti. I don't remember S3 as well, although Matt has an episode-ending line on a cruise ship that was great.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link
And of course Meg has a horrifyingly funny line to Tommy (S2, I think) that is one of the show's greatest.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link
Holy Wayne or whatever his name is was funny in s1
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Friday, 8 May 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link
Scott Glenn, too...maybe more humour than I first indicated.
I was a iffy on the Holy Wayne subplot both times I watched. I understand its importance symbolically (at least the questions it raises), but I was always impatient whenever they cut back to that story. In my COVID analogy, Holy Wayne is hydroxychloroquine.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link
Couldn't handle Holy Wayne because I couldn't get his Peep Show character out of my mind.
― dan selzer, Friday, 8 May 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
re: funny lines, s1 also has Carrie Coon's "oh, fuck your daughter!"
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
season 1 is a step below 2 and 3, doesn't really kick into high gear until the nora episode.
still the best show ever, tho
― sleight return (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
That’s what made holy Wayne so funny is that they cast Johnson from peep show and he played it in almost exactly the same way
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
yeah i haven't watched s1 in a while, but i remember the atmosphere being oppressively sad. there were also a lot of moments in the first season when a character tearfully recited a bible verse while max richter's score did the heavy lifting. s2 and s3 reached another level because they kept the intense feeling, but left the sanctimony behind.
― sleight return (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
holy wayne felt like he was transported in from another show, but not necessarily in a bad way
― sleight return (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
the show was more absurd than funny, with a bunch patently ridiculous situations played straight
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 8 May 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Hum OK we'll give it a try, I guess.Thanks all !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 May 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
definitely watch
― sleight return (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
The seriousness of S1 bothered me too the first time, but the second time it didn't at all, probably because I viewed it through the prism of right now. One thing I really loved--the first time was different; hard to recall, but I think I felt more frustrated--was the litany of MacGuffins, which I won't detail here in deference to AIXTC. I remember how, first time, with every one them I thought, "Ah, that must be the key."
― clemenza, Friday, 8 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
yeah my only advice for watching S1 is dont try to figure it out - just float along with it down the river
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 May 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
I think this show does everything Lost probably wanted to do, but succeeded
― akm, Friday, 8 May 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
agree
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 May 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
i remember being struck by the nihilism of season 1 and frequently asking myself "why am i watching this?" and yet continuing to watch because it was such powerful, well-made television. in seasons 2 & 3, the series really found its voice and its humanity. i'm sure i've said this elsewhere in this thread, but my favorite tv series ever, period.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 8 May 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
first season was p average. hoping it kicks up a gear in the next
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
Oh it does
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
Season 1 is brutally depressing. Can’t imagine watching it right now.
― circa1916, Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
I'm predicting that S1 gives a good picture of where the world will be in another 18 months: divided into people who are still vigilantly following every bit of COVID news (the town's "Heroes Day," more or less), those who are bored and want to move on (Kevin), and weird outliers who push back hard (far from perfect, but I felt like there was an analogy between the Guilty Remnants and all these protesters).
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
Yeah we nearly didn't carry on after season 1 - good premise and lots of great ideas and performances floating around, but it's so oppressively miserable. Season 2, right from the revamped credits, is such a breath of fresh air! Still at heart a weighty, serious story, but painted in tones of irony and black absurdism rather than stifling angst. 2 & 3 really are excellent, and you could maaaybe get away with skipping 1 (my memory might be being too harsh to it through).
― chap, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link
Another good gag in the first series is to do with the disappearing celebs which has a great payoff in s2idk why but the mention of the s2 credits reminded me of that
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link
odd tonal shift in season 2
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 14 May 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link
fwiw I watched this whole series and wouldn't really say I liked it. It's ambitiously weird and sometimes compelling, Carrie Coon is excellent, but everything is always amped up so much. It never really gelled with me. Also hate hate hate that "let the avocadies be" song
― dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 14 May 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link
yes you definitely need to be down for, or ideally in pursuit of, up-to-11 emotions at all times
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 May 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Don't read this unless you're finished.
Moved onto S2. I've talked about ghost Patty lots in this thread, but her first line ("What the fuck was that?" after they let Kevin walk after he turns himself in) and her last line ("Uh-oh") in the second episode are both series' highlights.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:50 (three years ago) link
holy wayne's scene in the final episode of season 1 was intense
we've done season 2 now. definitely an improvement on the first but not sure I quite understand all the hosannas. do enjoy how overwrought everything is all the time though, and the relationship between kevin and nora is genuinely kinda moving
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:56 (three years ago) link
season 2 also actually funny in places
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link
justin theroux really levels up his performance in the second series too, kinda has to given his character's pretty incredible storyline
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link
Has anyone read the novel? I'm wondering if it's all there in the novel, or if, when they got to the second season, they had to start adding stuff just for the series. When a TV series goes on the air, they have no way of knowing if they're going to be around for a second season.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link
My wife read the novel. It’s only the first season and there’s less there. That affected my watching if the series, she told me in the beginning that the book offers no explanations.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link