Animation Snob Thread (no Disney, no Pixar, no mainstream anime, mention Family Guy and you get kicked out a window), puppet films are allowed

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I think animation is a severely, depressingly neglected medium. It has incredible expressive potential and somehow the best animation seems to happen in crappy socialist or communist regimes, while America and Japan churn out loads of crap. I think the main problem with mainstream animation is how as a result of getting visual consistency and working on tight deadlines, everything looks quite bland most of the time. I'm not totally against this method, it makes sense for humour cartoons, but I think when you talk about GREAT animation, you should mostly be talking about amazingly animated animation.
I think in an ideal world, most horror films would be animated.

I'm not that big a snob, I think Disney's Pinocchio is brilliant; Sword In The Stone, Sleeping Beauty and quite a few others are good, in fact I'd say most had some things going for them.
I think Pixar films are generally quite good. I like Ratatouille a lot. But I still find 3d animated kids/family films frustrating because however nuanced and subtle they try to make the body language, it still seems too exaggerated, robotic and uniform. Everyone moves/acts the same in these films and they can only really overcome this with all the other elements, but usually humour.

I say no mainstream anime but Miyazaki and Satoshi Kon get a pass.

Youtube and Dailymotion have lots of incredible stuff but I'm not sure I want loads of videos embedded because a page full of videos is a nightmare for a lot of peoples poor internet connections. So I might just name the videos or slightly distort the site address so you can change hxxp to http.

Search: Brothers Quay, Svankmajer, Gyorgy Kovasznai, Keita Kurosaka, Nikolai Serebryakov, Ideya Garanina, Nina Shorina, Allison Schulnik. Frank Zappa's "City Of Tiny Lights" video.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 15:18 (six years ago) link

watched don hertzfeldt's "it's such a beautiful day" yesterday, kinda like "synechdoche new york" but done w/ stick figures and brakhage-ish camera effects — really wonderful

clouds, Sunday, 27 April 2014 15:27 (six years ago) link

Well, also search Yuri Norstein, obviously. Tale of Tales and Hedgehog in the Fog are required viewing.

Saw Ari Folman's latest, The Congress, at PIX. Pure crap. So happy with itself it actually has a character describe it's own style as 'a genius designer on bad acid'. Avoid like the plague.

Frederik B, Sunday, 27 April 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link

I was going to mention Norstein but I forgot his name. I forgot Roland Topor stuff like Fantastic Planet too.

I was kind of interested in The Congress but I heed your warning. But I cant promise I'll avoid.

Even though it isn't firmly in snob-land, the recobbled cut of Thief And The Cobbler on the directors youtube is good. The ending with the thief bouncing around the tank at the end is fucking incredible.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 15:51 (six years ago) link

Nina Shorina's "Room Of Laughter" here. One of the best films I saw last year. A prime example of what animation can do for horror. If you have ten minutes to spare, change the hxxps to https...

hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgZZY9K-WIc

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 15:57 (six years ago) link

i watched Millennium Actress for the first time recently. i thought it was really good

Mordy , Sunday, 27 April 2014 16:41 (six years ago) link

My ranking of Kon

Paprika
Perfect Blue
Millennium Actress
Paranoia Agent
Tokyo Godfathers

I found Paranoia Agent quite disappointing and a bit of a slog at times. I don't think the balance of detective intrigue with surreal nonsense worked that well.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 16:52 (six years ago) link

anyone seen "oneamisu no tsubasa" aka "wings of honneamise" or "royal space force: the wings of honneamise"? the description in "the anime encyclopedia" makes it sound really interesting:

Shiro Lhadatt is a dropout, a wannabe pilot who wasn't good enough to get into the navy air corps. Instead, hejoins the only organization that will have him, a ragtag group of misfits called the Royal Space Force. Underfunded, undermotivated, and under extreme pressure, they race to get a man in space, but nobody believes it's possible. Nobody, that is, except for Shiro and his would-be girlfriend, a religious zeal­ ot called Lequinni. Space is waiting for humanity as a whole, but the project to reach it is the result oftwo nations' political and military agendas. Our hero joins up for all the wrong reasons but eventually realizes that he can turn the "fake dream" of his government's PR campaign into a real dream, and he becomes the first man in space. Despite the political skullduggery that follows, he refuses to let go of the hope that the realityjust might redeem all the failure and sacrifice of history and give us another chance to soar.

One of anime's greatest successes and greatest failures, WoH is a pecu­liarly Japanese take on the U.S.-Soviet space race-an outsider's view of the gung ho ideals of The Right Stuff, moved to an alien world to emphasize the viewer's own alienation. Made by the young, fiendishly talented Gainax collective, it was so expensive and so badly received in Japan that it didn't break even until 1994.

One of the shining examples of how cerebral and intelligent anime can be, it's far removed from the sex and violence that stuffs Western anime catalogues. It's a film that rewards repeat viewings if only for the meticulous design of every aspect of its world. The language, the names, the maps, and even the telegraph poles all scream to be rec­ ognized as triumphs of world-building almost unequalled elsewhere in sci­ ence-fiction film. Even the minutiae of everyday life are knocked ever-so­ slightly out of kilter, with little touches like triangular spoons, unidentifiable foods, and sunrise in the north.

clouds, Sunday, 27 April 2014 17:08 (six years ago) link

as for kon, if anyone hasn't seen the short "magnetic rose" (orig. "kanojo no omide" or "her memories"), definitely do so — it was directed by otomo katsuhiro (akira dude) and written by both otomo and kon

clouds, Sunday, 27 April 2014 17:14 (six years ago) link

Wings of Honneamise is a great film, and I agree with the review that the meticulous detail of the alternate Earth is what really invites you back for another watch. The story is a bit rambling but doesn't get boring, although the main character can grate at times. The VHS copy I got hold of cut out that scene, so I'm not sure how that would have affected by opinion of the film.

I love Kon, though I think he got progressively weaker with each film, with PB and MA being the clear high points of his output. Paranoia Agent has a lot of good stuff, but it's far from perfect overall - the three stand-alone episodes in the middle are brilliant, but they break the flow of the ongoing story, and the series never quite recovers.

Duane Barry, Sunday, 27 April 2014 17:23 (six years ago) link

Mind Game is one of my favorite movies, and the director, Masaaki Yuasa released a Kickstarter-funded short last year that I love: Kick Heart

Dan I., Sunday, 27 April 2014 17:38 (six years ago) link

Is Akira a fit for this thread?

I really like the bit where one of the characters is using their weird psychic powers, and the way it's shown is a sort of invisible sphere radiates from them and crushes out the concrete wall around them - so perfectly drawn. And the city feels so thick and oppressive and realised.

cardamon, Sunday, 27 April 2014 17:59 (six years ago) link

And maybe 'The Thing' if we extend animation to include puppetry.

What I want to know is has anyone been making stop motion stuff since 2000?

cardamon, Sunday, 27 April 2014 18:00 (six years ago) link

Henry Selick

Alvarius B. Goode (WilliamC), Sunday, 27 April 2014 18:02 (six years ago) link

The Thing? I assume you aren't talking about Carpentar's film?

I think Akira and any other Otomo projects should be fine for this thread. Steamboy does kind of veer into the kid/family territory like Miyazaki (I'm just a bit wary of more conventional stuff flooding the artier stuff).
Ralph Bakshi might have to be squeezed in this thread too.

Fear(s) Of The Dark had some good stuff but I'm lukewarm about the film in general.

I saw Wings of Honneamise when I was something like 11 or 12 and it flew in the face of what I wanted at the time. Apart from the chase scene and the fight where he barfs on someone's face, it is a very very quiet film. In retrospect it seems a lot more interesting, I can still remember the low key mood of it.

Redline is a bit different, but I thought it was a mistake to have the film so story orientated. I think they should have cut the story and just kept more crazy race stuff. Now that I think about it, I was just like Wacky Races, but not quite enough.

Secret Adventures Of Tom Thumb seems like an obvious one for this thread too. It's quite depressing though.

BELLADONNA OF SADNESS
A Japanese classic that still hasn't had a proper western dvd release yet. It has very little in common with most anime, it has a sort of 70s psychedelic fashion illustration look with thin lines and watercolours. Kind of feminist fable of a once ordinary woman in medieval times who becomes empowered and oppressed at various points in the story but eventually becomes a martyr for womankind. Some really graphic stuff in there. There was quite a few bits I didn't understand the message but I'd recommend it a lot.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:11 (six years ago) link

watched don hertzfeldt's "it's such a beautiful day" yesterday, kinda like "synechdoche new york" but done w/ stick figures and brakhage-ish camera effects — really wonderful

― clouds, Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this film rules

avinit garde (wins), Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:13 (six years ago) link

i think goku could totally beat akira

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:13 (six years ago) link

Anyone who cares about stop motion should wait for Hoffmaniada, which is an attempt to return to the glory days of Russian animation.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:14 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MPe7E1YrY4

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avinit garde (wins), Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:50 (six years ago) link

watched patlabor 2 for the first time in quite a while and was really impressed. love how the sustained muted, kinda flat tone and the music's great too.

http://youtu.be/1dmlwhaEEgE

I can't even tell you how disappointed I was at the lack of action when I bought it sight unseen as a teenager!

original bgm, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:11 (six years ago) link

millennium actress is v beautiful, I think. definitely my favorite kon.

original bgm, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:13 (six years ago) link

My favourite non-mainstream animation is probably The Illusionist, by the guy who did Les Triplettes de Belleville, based on an unproduced Jacques Tati script and set in Edinburgh.

Alba, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:16 (six years ago) link

does oskar fischinger count here?

rushomancy, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:21 (six years ago) link

would like to point out that a second series of Mushishi is airing at the moment, 8 years after the first series and so far has been just as brilliant.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:27 (six years ago) link

I had never heard of Oskar Fischinger. From a brief search it seems to fit in fine. Isn't Stan Brakhage really animation?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:02 (six years ago) link

Just dropping in to say that Mind Game is also one of my all-timers and I'll be watching the short later for sure, ty Dan I

imago, Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:35 (six years ago) link

Didn't realise Mushishi was back, that's great news.

I generally preferred Oshii's earlier films (Beautiful Dreamer, Angel's Egg, Patlabor 2) to his post-GitS stuff. Jin-Roh: the Wolf Brigade (which he wrote, but didn't direct) was excellent, though.

Dreamer has an awesome moment when the characters board a harrier and see their city closed off on the back of a giant turtle; that's tied with the "Unnatural City" sequence as the best Oshii sequence

Duane Barry, Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:43 (six years ago) link

Robert, just in case i'm the only one who flag posted you after the first sentence, it was me who flag posted you after the first sentence. cheers.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:13 (six years ago) link

I love Angel's Egg.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:16 (six years ago) link

Noodle Vague- why flag post?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:20 (six years ago) link

tbf it was halfway thru the title. tbh, i think your premise is reductive, silly and distasteful. i celebrate yr right to disagree. the fp button is just underneath this post.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:22 (six years ago) link

The Secret of Kells

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:29 (six years ago) link

i couldn't give a flying fuck about the premise so long as i pick up some tasty leads itt

imago, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:54 (six years ago) link

Yep, same here

Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:00 (six years ago) link

the new series based on the "Ping Pong" manga is worth checking out (there was also a 2002 live action film)
artstyle is kinda ugly but really expressive, directed by Masaaki Yuasa (Mind Game, Kaiba, Tatami Galaxy)

http://i.imgur.com/Gp6t8JL.gif

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:08 (six years ago) link

the yuasa short upthread was cool, if not in the same league as mind game

imago, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:10 (six years ago) link

i think we had an animation thread a while back, but i totally agree with the sentiment in the original post. animation's been hijacked for exclusively kid and family movies, when it has so much more potential.

remake jaws as an animated film, plz.

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:11 (six years ago) link

great animated films that aren't necessarily for kids

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:12 (six years ago) link

Noodle Vague- I'd prefer you disagreed with me in detail. I said I enjoyed many Disney films and Pixar films are generally good, so unless you work on Family guy(which just like many sitcoms, I still find a quarter of the jokes funny enough) or some associated cartoon, I don't know why you are offended. Surely not by my belief that animation has been neglected as a powerful expressive medium?

Maybe you are a 3d animator? I'm willing to be proved wrong about the possibilities of that style but from what I have seen so far, I think the strength of cgi is for rich colour and more abstract things, but I've always found character animation to be lacking. But I've been moved all the same by Pixar films.
I said I'm not completely against uniformity in animation because Simpson's, Futurama and South Park at their best work just fine.
I just think it's sad that the medium isn't really associated much with ambitious animation techniques.

I hesitated before creating the title because I don't find offending people constructive but since the word "snob" was jokingly in the title (who honestly calls themself a snob?), I thought it would be obvious that I wasn't being an elitist drawing a line in the sand by the end of the first post.

So what part of my premise was objectionable?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:08 (six years ago) link

I mentioned it on the Adventure Time thread, but Masaaki Yuasa is directing an Adventure Time episode, too!

Dan I., Monday, 28 April 2014 00:24 (six years ago) link

I just think it's sad that the medium isn't really associated much with ambitious animation techniques.

do you not think that this is tantamount to saying that writing isn't associated with ambitious techniques because the bulk of what's read isn't "ambitious"? by definition, within any medium, the less popular stuff is less popular.

i was just mildly snarking tbh but really, you can have an "i love this" thread without defining it in opposition to all that tawdry mainstream "that" that you don't dig. and it will probably make your appreciation all the stronger.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:31 (six years ago) link

also you dismissed several nations' worth of animation in yr first two sentences which is like, gtfo

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:33 (six years ago) link

title wld've been fine with just the first three words, parenthetical and tbh 1st post just makes yr thread sound rockist son

but i guess you're guitarist from pink floyd right i guess i shouldn't expect more

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 April 2014 01:33 (six years ago) link

and it is just silly to associate 'ambitious animation style' w/non-mnstrm stuff, have you seen One Piece that shit's ambitious as h*ck, and bigger studios have more freedom and currency to experiment on a big stage

and then 'letting in' miyazaki and akira cause you feel like it, come on. this is just taste, don't try to project all this other mnstrm/non-mnstrm stuff

but otherwise cool thread look forward to recs

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 April 2014 01:37 (six years ago) link

Again, I think my elaboration shows that I don't at all mean to completely dismiss major animation houses, America or Japan. But I don't think it's totally crazy to say that a lot of their output is very poor and that there might be legitimate things in them to object to. A lot of Japanese animators are totally scathing about the general animated output of their country.

I'm guilty as charged that I made a sensational title to get attention and I probably shouldn't have because it is a rampant problem on the internet that I'm not proud to take part in but again, I thought there was enough in the first post to backpedal from the oppositional element.

The oppositional gut feelings come easy when you're bombarded by something that you think has significant or even major problems while so many great things are marginalized. Particularly when it comes to comics. I'm sure most people here have called things "total shit" that in a fairer, more constructive mood they would admit to having some good qualities. Ideally I'd like to criticize everything as if I were talking to the creators face to face in the most constructive, bluntly honest but encouraging way I could.
I'll often say I hate Friends, Big Bang Theory and Family Guy but a quarter of the jokes do make me laugh and some other things work occasionally.
I often get angered by superhero comics and movies but I have genuinely enjoyed them on occasion.

I like to try and be reasonable as possible but then I remember the time I tried to talk about wonderful animation and its potential, with people responding "no I don't like Family Guy, Pixar, Avatar or anime", RAAAAAAAAAGE!
I don't like snobbery and elitism because I think it is anti-intellectual in the way those things make people oversimplify, when the fact is that almost nothing can really be reasonably summed up as trash or shit. But if you really seriously care about culture, have starry eyed dreams about people believing in aspiring to greatness and raising standards, you'll know how easy it is to fall into dismissively oversimplifying things.

I assumed flagging posts was reserved for serious transgressions like horrendous racism, sexism, violent threats and legal boundaries being crossed. Not passionate disagreements about culture.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 April 2014 02:10 (six years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh nvm

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 April 2014 02:17 (six years ago) link

Zachlyon says "bigger studios have more freedom and currency to experiment on a big stage"

Examples? Fantasia is the only time I can think of a major studio being really experimental. But there is loads and loads of low budget avant garde animation. A lot of people decide to avoid or leave big animation studios because lack of freedom. The big companies have the resources but how could they compare in this way with Piotr Kamler and Gyorgy Kovasznai?

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 April 2014 02:30 (six years ago) link

Forgot to mention Watership Down and Plague Dogs. They are quite special to me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 April 2014 02:32 (six years ago) link

^^^these are incredible and their making is also p incredible, michael rosen was a true one-off. watership down also one of my favourite films ever

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 02:55 (six years ago) link

Good night, children/ Spokojnoj Noch, Malyshi! (1999) by Norstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxkkE6tdQc4
Extraordinary technique and the smiling rabbit is so cute.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:32 (one year ago) link

Piotr Kamler's claymation masterpiece Chronopolis is sort of like a dreary Fantastic Planet, minus the plot.

saw this screened last night, v much worth a look

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:33 (one year ago) link

The Hungarian film Ruben Brandt, Collector is up on UK/Ireland Netflix now (not sure about other locations) and is definitely worth a look. I saw it at an animation festival not long ago and loved it, but was unsure about the ending... good reason for a second watch!

Duane Barry, Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:05 (one year ago) link

I didn't know Kamler did Claymation. The one I saw was 2d animation of a ball bouncing on stairs. Very surreal.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:33 (one year ago) link

DID NOT know Laika was Vinton's studio and that they forcibly ousted him
https://tedium.co/2019/12/17/holiday-tv-alternatives/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

whoa, that's messed up. had no idea, and i'm a big Laika fan!

Nhex, Saturday, 21 December 2019 21:58 (one year ago) link

yeah, same. it's a huge bummer.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 December 2019 22:09 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Masaaki Yuasa has a new TV series called Eizouken ni wa Te o Dasu na! (Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!).
just watched the first episode and it's up to his usual excellent standard, the sequences where the characters live inside their own drawings are wonderful
here's a trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYbdQImkp4

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 6 January 2020 00:53 (one year ago) link

yeah its good

ciderpress, Monday, 6 January 2020 01:13 (one year ago) link

thanks for the heads up on this; really enjoyed it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 6 January 2020 05:25 (one year ago) link

how would you watch that, Funimation sub?

Nhex, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:52 (one year ago) link

i mean, Crunchyroll?

Nhex, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:52 (one year ago) link

yeah crunchyroll or illegal means

will probably finish in march if you want to be patient and watch it all on a free trial

ciderpress, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:49 (one year ago) link

Norstein is master of the form, but I'm now resigned to the likelihood that The Overcoat is never going to be finished in his lifetime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2QqDervCU&t=71

It blows my mind that I can remember it being discussed on TV documentaries from around 20 years ago, and it's still only around halfway done.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:45 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

So, I bought Zeman's 'Invention for Destruction' (that counts, right?), but now I'm worried it's just a renaming of his Jules Verne, which I think I have.

― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, December 21, 2018 7:23 PM (one year ago)

https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/2880-three-fantastic-journeys-by-karel-zeman

I don't have a 4k TV but 1080p blurays with a nice looking box & features sounds nice.

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:07 (eleven months ago) link

family guy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:08 (eleven months ago) link

BANNED

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:27 (eleven months ago) link

Zeman box looks very nice! Not sure I’m going to rebuy them though.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:35 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Newish director called Ujicha, cant wait for these!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkxSIDpPBR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AFmFwQpfOQ

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 February 2020 20:53 (eleven months ago) link

i watched half of violence voyager; didn't do much for me... kind of a motion comic.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

oscar animated nom I Lost My Body is on netflix - is it worth a watch?

wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 23 February 2020 22:30 (eleven months ago) link

Found Oscar winner "Hair Love" online. It looks great and means well, but is ultimately kinda mawkish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNw8V_Fkw28

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 22:44 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Quite amazing episode from a series called Operavox. I imagine this would have been astoundingly difficult to make. The faces are so expressive too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR7MdhB6GEc

After all my talk of patience recently, I've been guiltily skipping around most of my youtube backlog of animation.

Some of Piotr Dumala's films are really impressive, scratchy, with lots of large dark mysterious spaces with people moving in and out of the light. One of the most recent is a pretty heavy piece about domestic abuse.

It can't be emphasized enough that "Russian animation eus347" is an essential channel and without that person there would be a gaping hole in this world.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:01 (nine months ago) link

i watched Fierlinger's 'Drawn From Memory' last night, very solid... voicework from Vaclav Havel! this is a decent accompanying piece with selections from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AS_0Da0xM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:36 (nine months ago) link

thanks for that youtube channel btw; found tons of neat stuff immediately!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:37 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I hated the way Aeon Flux looked when I was a kid (didn't The Phantom cartoon look the same?) but I've heard some people say it was genius and this video explained why nicely enough. I'll probably never watch it but glad to know more about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOT_-VQfi8

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 23:11 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

It's why I joined this board in the '90s! Life-changing.

Nhex, Sunday, 17 May 2020 23:08 (eight months ago) link

Animation? Aeon Flux?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 18 May 2020 19:45 (eight months ago) link

AF, in specific. Different handle back then, though.

Nhex, Monday, 18 May 2020 21:15 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ya Idu Iskat (I Go Seek) 1992 by Fessenko.
Seems to be his only film. Some really impressive sights, most of them early on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXOASL4UzZg

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:19 (seven months ago) link

WAAAH by Sawako Kabuki from 2018
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=npiEBAiRBHI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 22:01 (seven months ago) link

Nice

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 June 2020 22:21 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

There's a lot more Takashi Taniguchi on youtube than there used to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubX_aqXctRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C_7_HvNSSg
This one is just a stomach complaining about things people eat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA3OywZK4Tc

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:01 (six months ago) link

oh mr stomach

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:14 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've come to the posistion that the funniest thing in Mr Ando Of The Woods is the titular character saying "Strike, Mr Ando Strike!"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:11 (five months ago) link

Sadko The Rich (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOWC3OtwAno
New Year's Wind (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvknsKKuuw
Outpaces The Wind (1978) music by Alexander Gradsky. This is a total downer, I don't know if the horse couldn't eat or people wouldn't feed him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFbDXdihoic
The Breeze (1972)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM0Ffl1F87A

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:50 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Romance Helgolandská - opening - music by Luboš Fišer-
This mainly for the music. just stunning! And what a shame how little of his music there is to buy, but tons on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NUwsq-8JPc

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:39 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

It's probably quite mainstream but Henry Selick has an upcoming film with Key and Peele.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:56 (two months ago) link

Shelter by Carl Burton - it's rare that I feature any cgi animation but it helps that this 6 minute piece has no humans or animals, just a surreal twisting house with otherworldly qualities
https://vimeo.com/37156003

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 November 2020 20:27 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Shingo Tamagawa. I could have put this in the anime thread but this looks like real labour of love stuff, quite amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnqX41JHuM

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:44 (one month ago) link

that's lovely

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:55 (one month ago) link

Wolf Walkers is beautifully realized but it is unmistakably made for children and lost my attention after a half hour.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:55 (one month ago) link

Just watched The Thief and The Cobbler for the first time, holy moley the high points are high.

Also finally got around to the recobbled Thief and the Cobbler. Pretty easy to understand how this never found an audience: it's visually an awe-inspiring art film and thematically made for small children. The plot is abysmally boring but the animation feels nearly computer created in its precision and buttery smoothness. Easy to love, hard to recommend.

Yeah it definitely doesn't work as a mass market feature. I'm sort of glad it is the way it is, because the simplicity of the plot works really well with the dreamlike quality of the whole thing. But maybe I'm just too smitten to see clearly.

lukas, Saturday, 19 December 2020 07:16 (one month ago) link

It's a film I'd be happy to just show people the finale.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:42 (one month ago) link

it's a great achievement! I'm not sure it's much of a movie.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:56 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

That's amazing, never heard of Felix Colgrave before.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

i hadn't either before this piece. it's an entirely original vision.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 January 2021 18:15 (three weeks ago) link

Due to an administrative oversight, he placed in the 2017 film poll.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 3 January 2021 20:26 (three weeks ago) link

Key Animation: Wes Archer (0:07 - 0:21)
Peter Chung (?)
Cartoon: Rugrats (Pilot) (1990)https://t.co/SIdlyweDS1 pic.twitter.com/pueranGLk6

— randomsakuga (@randomsakuga) November 1, 2019

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 January 2021 07:54 (one week ago) link


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