Under the Skin (2014) dir. Jonathan Glazer

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xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link

would have been a totally different film if glen michael had taken the lead role as glazer originally intended

― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:50 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so it became a film about the abject feminine by accident? /reductive

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:08 (eight years ago) link

no it was a joke

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link

They've painted blue feet on the right side of the escalator. Everything is wrong today

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 11:01 (eight years ago) link

totty the robot haring around the countryside on a motorbike

conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link

One thing confused me in this film : she picks up a guy with a hibs scarf who has a glaswegian accent

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

And as the dudes are mainly on secret camera he must actually be a weegie hibee

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

Yes, in the confusion stakes, that whole space alien thing was, in comparison, a doddle

Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

uh oh

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

Er, I am not being sarcastic. I am quite taken with the idea that the REAL weirdness of the film is to do with football

Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Apologies. I was constructing some dread internal lambast but <150 posts in 12 years is quite unbelievable restraint and I bow to your mastery

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

Neil would you just... touch me

seriously what if i were romeo in black jeans (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

once a month is ample

oddesseslessness (wins), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps we shall draw Pope Neil into an argument which triples his net ILX contribution and draws him tragically and inexorably down to our level

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

Hooooooly shit

flappy bird, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

otm

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 September 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Great film

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

good movie imo

Simon H., Friday, 6 September 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

Missed it 5 years ago but it’s in my top 10 of the decade now, damn

flappy bird, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

Such a striking and iirc ultimately sad movie.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

It remains my favourite film of the decade.

tangenttangent, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

It’s very good but I really found it too hard to watch and couldn’t finish it. Beach scene fucked me up.

gyac, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

(also what club would be playing "sandstorm" in this decade...)

― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:59 AM (four years ago)

lol lex.

Great film and whoever it was upthread who said it was Patrick Keiller-esque was otm.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 6 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Dang, everyone's so weepy about the baby scene! Maybe someone came by and saved the baby!

I thought this, but the SJ character hears on the radio that a man's body was found and the mother and child are missing and they've called off the search 'cos of fog, which seemed like an unnecessarily cruel bit of info.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 6 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

One of the few films I've been majorly excited about that actually exceeded my hopes - that opening sequence blew my mind and there's not a wasted frame after that.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

beach scene was very tough to take. kinda stunned that someone called it "hilarious" upthread, unless that was supposed to be a joke.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Extremely tough, and also the most shockingly alien in perspective. Kicks the film into high gear.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

has anyone else read the book? it's very very different but also good.

na (NA), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

Same cinematographer for his 2020 Auschwitz film, some 6+ years in development. I fear that because nothing has been reported on summer 2019 production, that it'll be pushed to 2021...

The comparisons to Kubrick are more apt looking at the Glazer's whole ouvre, in the concerns (Kubrick also planned an Auschwitz film), stunt casting, framing, pacing, and intervals between films.

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

Yep I've read the book too - I'm glad I didn't see a lot of that stuff on screen actually. I'm impressed with Glazer planting the same seed in a different medium and letting it mutate. Strongest Kubrick influence perhaps.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

Birth seems like his most Kubrickian, and best probably, don't know that I'm looking forward to him making an Auschwitz film tho

or something, Friday, 6 September 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

my first viewing of this, at the tail end of a multiplex run, was hysterical. to be clear it had run in multiplexes in scotland because it was filmed in glasgow and i guess there was "local interest". mass walkouts, people around me all asking what the fuck they'd come to, people accusing others in their party for having asked them to come to see it. the best was a boxer guy that i recognised from my own gym shouting how shite it was as he noisily left the auditorium.

i fucking love it.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

you could barely concentrate on the film for all the noisy hilarity going on.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

beach scene was very tough to take. kinda stunned that someone called it "hilarious" upthread, unless that was supposed to be a joke.


I can see this but didn’t find it funny or particularly disturbing. The movie didn’t strike me as cruel at any point like Sacred Deer or something.

So much to say but goddamn this is the best example of PURE CINEMA I’ve seen this decade. So many things so beautifully conveyed in images, gestures. The most moving and simple example being the closeup of the disabled guy pinching himself. Masterful use of sound and silence too

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

I’m not a film guy but even my dumb ass recognized this shit was transcendent.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

What’s weird is that the beach scene didn’t disturb me as much as it did many others (although I also didn’t find it “hilarious”, wtf) but the scene of the guy watching the other guy get sucked out of his skin and then watching the empty skin float around in the void is one of the most disturbing nightmare images I’ve ever seen in a movie. I have a super vivid memory of watching it in the cinema and feeling paralyzed with dread.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

yes. I also thought the scene with attempted sex was memorable, and the cake scene where the SJ character is looking at it and wondering, what the hell is this?

Dan S, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link

Seriously tempted to show this in the film club I'm doing.

WmC, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

do any women like this movie? just curious

del griffith, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link

cause like I can't imagine it being as big a hit/making as much of an impact with an actress less hot than The Scarjo, and that seems ironically problematic maybe? haven't figured it out yet, but I did like this movie

del griffith, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

Well the big joke is that these dudes are willing to follow a woman who looks like scarjo into what looks like a crack den if they think they’re gonna get laid, though you could certainly argue maybe that would be true with any moderately attractive woman though making it her I think does make it funnier

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 7 September 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

My wife was def into this movie
Xp

Οὖτις, Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link

It's not really a comedy though, is it? I don't think I laughed once during the whole thing, although, like I said, I really liked this movie! It's good, but I didn't laugh. Certainly never like "lol they're falling for her cause she's moderately attractive at least" cause I mean what's funny about that. That's just human nature. If you're a straight guy, haven't you ever fallen for someone super hot who actually talked to you for a little bit? And from the moment that started to happen, weren't you sorta on the clock to figure out whether this clearly hot person is worth being talked to by your obviously superior intellect? And should you feel ashamed about it if you decided she is? I never found a "big joke" in this movie, but it did make me feel ashamed of all the times I ever thought with my balls, and it did feel like some sort of feminist masterpiece that I'll probably always be under and never really understand.

del griffith, Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

this didn't seem comedic to me at all.

I've only seen it once but the motorcyclist seemed like some kind of alien handler who was ultimately in a position of control

Dan S, Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link

stephanie zacharek liked it:

https://www.villagevoice.com/2014/04/02/under-the-skin-is-alluring-creepy-and-great/

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link

the genius of the movie for me was its showing a view of human empathy from a completely outside perspective, thought it was moving

Dan S, Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link

I know women who rate it pretty high, I obv can’t speak for their precise reasons but it takes on stuff like the male gaze and gendered power dynamics pretty explicitly.

Scarlett Johansson being in it obviously helped the movie get made & get seen, but I think it’s one of those cases where that also works artistically. There are obv many different layers and readings that can be brought to bear, but the larger context of viewers being aware of her as a giant movie star and international sex symbol is definitely at play in how the movie is operating and what its doing, imo

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 7 September 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link

I mean I just thought it was funny that she led these dudes into this sketchy as fuck building and they blissfully went along. It’s funny because it’s ridiculous and yet totally believable.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 7 September 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

Poll: Would you walk into black water for Scarlet Johanson?

Y
N

Funky Isolations (jed_), Saturday, 7 September 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link

I've been to places that look like where she takes the men but I am from Glasgow ymmv if you have lived bougiely only

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 7 September 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link


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