the ppl with whom you interact outside ilx...

what ppl?

voted 'not like, good'

all ppl, this isnt goin towards yr final score or anything

voted 'not like, bad'. (as in bad for me, but possibly good for the people themselves?)

option #2

threads all about the voter pov but feel free to explore

Treezy that wont make sense after reeults shuffle pls speak clearly into the mic

not similar/good thing. ilx is kind of exhausting.

where is the all of the above option

ilx is kind of exhausting

people are kind of exhausting

Ilxors > real ppl

who said i interact with anybody here

idk, kind of both. some could be ilxors, some would find it foreign.

not to say I'm completely the same outside here, either.

i don't interact with ppl

what if we count lyle as people

Choice #2 (unlike/good thing). I rarely feel the urge to strike anyone with a hammer IRL, but on ILX it's a daily if not hourly thing.

I picked four. I wish I interacted with more ilxors irl because I don't encounter a lot of people in my daily life who have similar interests other than my wife.

(suppresses impulse to make childish joke)

the people i interact with outside my ilx/arty/writerly circles are normals who describe anyone left-of-center as a "hipster" and probably think i'm pretentious and weird. i don't disparage them or wish they were any different -- i'm just self-conscious in their presence.

does twitter count as outside ilx or are we just talking irl

i guess in short ppl i interact w/ irl are a lot less like ilx while ppl i talk to online are plenty like ilx

if I was able to so easily categorize the people I interact with my world would be a dull fucking place

no two people are exactly alike. the same can't be said for online personalities, though ilx contains more distinctive voices than many of other internet echo chambers out there.

no two people are exactly alike

― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship)

we call them "twins"

it's true that internet "types" are often alike. sometimes i think news comments sections are visited by the same five people with a lot of time on their hands.

“When one watches some tired hack on the platform mechanically repeating the familiar phrases - bestial atrocities, iron heel, blood-stained tyranny, free peoples of the world, stand shoulder to shoulder - one often has a curious feeling that one is not watching a live human being but some kind of dummy, the appropriate noises are coming out of his larynx, but his brain is not involved”

this is a quote from orwell, but i think it pertains to the internet including ilx at its worst. in real life people adopt personas and there is a lot of stupid, formulaic posturing sure but the process isn't as seamless.

Lets just say that ILX people are never the ones telling me that I really should see The Hunger Games.

On the flip side, I rarely, if ever, encounter non-ILX people who want to talk about the new Britney Spears single.

(not since 2003-ish, anyways)

2. Lots of great people here but much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Not like/good thing. Because variety's a good thing. Also because they are real people, not just a bunch of characters on a screen plus an occasional wdyll.

<3 ilxors and wish rl people shared more of their interests and wit; but tbh a few parts of ILX outside my own corner terrify and worry me, and my rl people don't, so 'good thing' by a clear head.

Last two covering it nicely imo

2 is going to storm this.

Lets just say that ILX people are never the ones telling me that I really should see The Hunger Games.

You really should, though.

Well I generally interact with ILX people about music, cycling, and boardgames, and I tend to interact with people outside ILX about music, cycling, and boardgames, so it would seem that they're pretty similar.

Working in HE basically gives you access to geeks and weirdos as much as hanging out on ILX does, though.

What an absurd question!

For a start it assumes that "the people you interact with on ILX" are some kind of homogenous group (granted they are probably more homogenous than the sum of "all the people I interact with outside ILX") but then how on earth am I supposed to typify "people I interact with outside ILX" when that group includes everyone from radical feminists to hedge fund managers to the occasional racist cabbie I encounter on the ride home?

If "interact with outside ILX" means "friendship group" obviously my friends are way way better because they are self-selected while any weirdo can wander onto ILX, start shouting at me and call it "interaction." But then again, my IRL friendship group also includes people who are ILX as well which renders the whole question a false dichotomy.

Actually, that brings up the criterion by which I am going to judge this. Most (but by no means all) of my "outside ILX" group are people with whom I have engaged some kind of in-person interactions, be that face to face, down the pub or, with the few I've never met IRL, in email exchanges that created a sense of intimacy and shared humanity. It seems like these days, there's a large group of people "on ILX" (possibly even the bulk of them, though I do not know at what point this shifted) who have never met another ILX0r in the flesh. This removal of demonstrable shared humanity means it's much easier to "Monster" people. This is a bad thing. So I'm voting "unlike, good thing."

My irl friends - as opposed to work colleagues or family - are pretty similar to ilxors, to the extent that non-ilx friends of mine have become friendly with ilxors.

does twitter count as outside ilx or are we pjust talking irl
― mitch hedberg and kevin hart (sleepingbag),

best check with the mods on this one tbph

ilx is on probably on average older, posher & more international than irl friends

idek what the people i interact with on ilx are like

Ha look i can only think of so many options for a quick poll tbf

how about "not like, its neither a good or bad thing, people are people"

I spose in effect thats a null vote but ill accept the write in

It seems like these days, there's a large group of people "on ILX" (possibly even the bulk of them, though I do not know at what point this shifted) who have never met another ILX0r in the flesh.

not at all sure this is the case tbh? I mean depends how you define 'large group' here but I'm someone who's never met any of you folks as a result of you posting here and I always feel like a clandestine weirdo and v much in a minority in this respect

even i've met a couple of ilxors and i live in Hull ffs

tbf they seem to have gone off the internet lately

I would say "the vast majority" actually.

Well, in the early days, when ILX was based on distinct geographical clusters of people who already knew each other IRL or in other internet spaces, I think it was the case that "people who had never met another ILX0r" were a rarity. But if memory serves, the last poll that was done, people who had never met another ILX0r were a substantial group? "Large group" for my statistical purposes being "over 1/3" or so. I just can't remember the name of the poll to search for it.

well yeah mostly i guess but i prefer to keep people at an e-distance i think [/banaka]

not e-distance, the opposite.

none of my pub cronies are very ilxy

Voted option 2, 'cuz variety is the spice of life etc

I have met one ilxor irl but we have never interacted on here

Anyway I vote with mark g

Most of my friends are not very ILXy, some are a little ILXy, one or two would fit right in.

Main points of non-ILXiness:
1. less likely to care about music (bad-ish I guess but I've never got on well with most music geeks offline);
2. less likely to bust out crit-theoretical whatevering (good for ignorant old me);
3. the men (both friends and certain of the coworkers) are more likely to say something outrageously reddity abt women and then be all "pshh, bitches can't take a joke" or "O MY HUMAN RIGHTS" if I call them out on it (sigh).

I guess on average that's "not like, bad", because 3 really really pisses me off.

Working in HE basically gives you access to geeks and weirdos as much as hanging out on ILX does, though.

ha ha otm but my HE geeks and weirdos are all librarians and computer programmers and library-computer-programmers so yeah, one of those just might be where the reddit tendencies come in

ILX fills a different need than my IRL interactions. For whatever reason, a large number of my IRL peeps have next to no online presence.

most ppl on ilx are less ilx like irl ime

that was fun to type

2. less likely to bust out crit-theoretical whatevering (good for ignorant old me);

Yah, no one I know outside of ilx ever name-drops Adorno.

As a grad student in English Language and Literature, this has so not been the case for me over the last year.

Don't think I would really wanna know ilx-type people mostly (or at least people who acted in real life like people act on ilx), but I have to admit it would be fun to meet some who talked about music in the same way as you lot do. Sometimes I'll say something e.g. at a party that would be completely innocuous here and everyone will look at me as if I'm as mad as Mark E Smith. Everyone I know irl is pretty much indie - 95% of them think e.g. Arcade Fire are the bee's knees etc. and totally accept the indie canon. It is very disorienting.

ways in which my irl friends differ: younger, less informed or attuned to things going on (by which i mean i rarely talk to ppl irl about "current affairs," tends to be more day-to-day anecdotal shit, but that may have more to do with ilx being more impersonal & on the internet where discussions have to be justified by threads with like topics,) much less fussy and moral or likely to express indignation (tone of ilx is more often somewhere between "can you believe this shit?"/"i can't believe this shit!") less into narcisissms of small differences, taking positions less distanced or, like "meta-" from issues? i feel like ppl on ilx are often very careful to position themselves at a calculated remove from anything they talk about? irl people are much more reckless i find, more bold maybe? everything on ilx seems heavily qualified is maybe what i'm trying to say. trying to think of others... honestly though not that different. like in terms of musical tastes i can pick an ilx analogue for each one of my friends,' i would say that maybe 3 years ago "more rockist" would be a shoe-in but not so anymore at all really

Great answer imo

It seems like these days, there's a large group of people "on ILX" (possibly even the bulk of them, though I do not know at what point this shifted) who have never met another ILX0r in the flesh.

I doubt that it was ever significantly the case that the bulk of posters on ILX had met another ILX0r irl, not beyond the first few months or so of the site. There's a lot of geographical distance covered by the userbase here, and a huge number of citydwellers who are 100% uninterested in meeting other ILX folk in their own towns.

darragh conflating mongrels with sheepfux0rs btw, tch

chalk it up to my account theres a good chap

had a multi-person conversation with coworkers over lunch including one coworker citing all these incidents where little old ladies had defended themselves with handguns, complete with snopes-bait anecdotes

;_;

I didn't vote, I don't rate irl people any better or worse than ILX, in fact the only difference is that irl there is the question of "who pays for lunch".

i sometimes wish my irl friends were more like ilxors but i wouldn't say it's a 'bad thing' that they're not. they're mostly more 'stereotypical' nerds i.e. into gaming, tech stuff, etc rather than music/art

if I was able to so easily categorize the people I interact with my world would be a dull fucking place

― dan m, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 04:05 (15 hours ago)

yeah

think deems is saying that he finds the gap between people from say rural ireland and urban america or england particularly schismatic but for most people from those places the differences between ilx/the world around them aren't going to be nearly so pronounced

i find the ppl from the frum community of philadelphia to be pretty different from the ppl of ilx, tho i always enjoy the vertigo of going from the most left-wing person in the room to the most right-wing person in the [thread] room. i can't imagine i'm alone in that particular shift from rl to virtual life.

A good portion of my IRL friends are here anyway, so they act them same.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

xp nakh tbs tbs there's that (tho obv all wites == obv) but ive tasted city life and a couple colleges now and middle class approaches most of my friends and my irl set prob vary across a decent spectrum as it goes- none as far left as far ilx left admittedly and further right by a long way than yr usual ilx suspects (self included- as mordy says it's a nice jump bytimes to login and switch sides) but come come we can all answer or not to the dividers as we see them, with apologies for the failures in option that ive already acknowledged.

a lot of people will vote 'not like' because they come to ilx to post about music or other cultural products that are not a common interest in any natural demographic, so you get a sort of narc of sd effect even though educated urban americans who like mnml synth and chillwave are probably not intrinsically that different from those who don't know what a chillwave is

confession wtf is a chillwave

Fair point tho

voted 'like', 'good' because ilx was my only healthy socializing outlet as a young adult (kinda fucked up but i wouldn't take it back), and i've learned a lot about the kind of person i like/want to be (and don't want to be) by posting on here. i've gravitated toward more of those people irl and they currently outnumber 'old irl' acquaintances.

bad side is i can feel awkward when trying to make new friends in real space but that's just a technical hurdle i guess you could say.

a lot of people will vote 'not like' because they come to ilx to post about music or other cultural products that are not a common interest in any natural demographic

really?

I guess the main difference I see between ilx ppl and my IRL ppl is that the ilx ppl are more normal in terms of their habits and lifestyles -- e.g. dishwasher ownership, not going out to shows very often. Granted I ended up here because a couple of IRL pals were ilxors, and since then I've had an ilx roommate and a bff who is also an ilxor, and I keep finding out that various IRL friends are lurkers, which is odd

ilm versus rest of ilx there, though -- I think ilm in general goes to a fair number of shows, but probably not as many as your people because they're kind of locked into a scene?

how many lurkers are there here? i would think it was so weird if anyone imrl knew about ilxor, there are like 4000 posters and all of y'all live in ny or london or wherever

Not all my ppl are in the same scene though.

ilm is known about and/or lurked by a fair number of people who are music writers due to history, ilx definitely heard-of or read by people in general. some friends have mentioned having known of it, although it's not nearly as well-known in most circles as larger communities like SA or w/e

i always enjoy the vertigo of going from the most left-wing person in the room to the most right-wing person in the [thread] room

I don't necessarily enjoy this feeling. It's pretty frustrating to me, on either side. I But I share this experience.

I think ILX helps keep me grounded. There are certain areas where I am regarded as something of an authority amongst my group of IRL friends (music, football) but all it takes is a quick trip to ILX to prevent me getting a swollen head. Mainly because on ILF there are numerous posters prepared to burst your bubble when you're getting a bit above yourself, and because I've never yet mustered up the courage to become a regular poster to ILM, bcuz well fuck exposing my own ignorance to that extent really. I think this is probably quite healthy. Regarding broader discussion there are certain posters who I find to be so frequently otm (Noodle Vague) that i have to be very careful and attentive to try and think for myself and avoid actively parroting their views IRL, but who I definitely find to be fairly influential in my attitude to day-to-day concerns and problems

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

are like the ppl i interact with on ilx (this is a bad thing) 0

That's interesting, given the number of votes.

Not so bad, if viewed kindly

xp think it showed ppl took options in spirit meant?

Which is frankly staggering, given no of votes

#sorted

you ran a poll for two days and got 68 votes - seems like some people may have changed their mind in the interim

Weak argument imo you'd need to run a 2 day poll with similar turnout supporting yr assumption in order to get floortime

Count yrself lucky if this random thread revive is hurting u btw the other promising option on the page was the one about summary execution of child molesters

Spoiler, that one was not #sorted

do the opinions vary much between the generic death penalty pro/con thread and the summary execution of child molesters pro/con thread?

No

In fact the worst part of the thread is the confirmed anti death penalty posters coming in to give the uninteresting and unhelpful answer that had already been noted against their names at a higher phase of discovery

"I'm against the death penalty in all circumstances so even in a case wher-" "Fuck off"

Would mix with them irl tho obv top chaps

ah

back when ppl interacted with others on ilx

It's a mix of all four tbh.

yes ive addressed that and many other concerns upthread