"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

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we knew these guys were pigs. the cowboy hats were just meant to distract us from the truth.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 24 March 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Of all the horrible shit(literal or otherwise) involved in this story, the thing that supremely pissed me off was that they fucked with the Native American artifacts onsite. Like, did they break stuff or toss them around the office or snap photos wearing them? There's an overriding complusive need to hammer these guys about the head with a folding chair, Bloom County-style, yelling "It belongs in a museum!"

Like, what cultural alleyway(pop- and other) do you have to come from to think it'd be fine to play with those particular items?

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

i hope that the gov't successfully sues these assholes for everything they're worth and this will pay for a fraction of the cost of restoring that place.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

they aren't worth much, I suspect

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link

"This is a trench of feces. Feces."

― nickn, Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty sure the technical word for this is 'latrine'

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

a literal "shithole"

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

Listen to how these cowboys talk to the Feds. That is some privilege being shouted out loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY

pplains, Thursday, 24 March 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeW6HuRUMAAgabd.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 25 March 2016 06:30 (eight years ago) link

Man charged with sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion (he was keeping four sex slaves chained up in his house), and producing, possessing and transporting child pornography claims he's a sovereign citizen when arrested:

“All laws are commercial in nature, and I’m a natural-born human American man,” Travis said during the hearing. “So since all laws are commercial in nature and I choose not to do business with this court, I ask that this case be dismissed.”

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

worth a shot

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

When facing those kinds of charges, you better try something.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Seen a couple of these billboards in North London recently

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce3I9teWEAAYtfh.jpg

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

huuuh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

makes u think

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link

thinking so hard rn

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link

thinking lol must be pretty cheap to hire a billboard these days

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

It's illegal to charge for a billboard

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

its illegal to BILL for a BOARD

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

at least they wrote "THE TRUTH" on there to clear up any doubts

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

it's ILLEGAL to use WORDS plz refer to me only as a shape using semaphore

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

First I've heard of this. Woah, mind blown.

http://losethename.com/truth-faq-new/

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link

Things you’ll need: Sticky labels

Note: DO NOT write ENGLAND on the address because LONDON is a country separate from ENGLAND.

kinder, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

Is there any proof/evidence of birth certificate fraud?

There is proof all over the internet

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

1. How does any of this name stuff help solve real problems – like chem trails, wars, corruption, poverty, etc.?

lol

kinder, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

stop being a buzzkill this is IMPORTANT

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:53 (eight years ago) link

This is a wondrous rabbithole. My favorite so far:

If you already own or mortgage a home/land or apartment you may continue to live there and you will not need to continue paying the bank.

Alrighty then.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

There's one in the corporate thingy location known as "Bournemouth"
http://losethename.com/expansion/

why

kinder, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

the police or po-lice, which means spirit seed lice. Li-Ce' also means the lie of creation or lies-se'.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Wow, deep. I also saw the "name" Nay-me, as in my name is not me.

DO YOU SEE?!?!

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

reading this is like having a stroke

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

they really think laws are like spells or something

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 April 2016 03:26 (eight years ago) link

I mean that's exactly it, and they're half-right, since the law is an elaborate closed language-game where words don't mean what they ordinarily mean except for when the court stipulates that they do. They're just casting magic that has no effect.

eyecrud (silby), Thursday, 7 April 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link

I dont understand these people at all. If the laws were not enforceable by the government, why wouldn't the government change the laws to make them enforceable? Why would they instead "pull the wool over people's eyes" by misrepresenting the meanings of the laws?

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 04:55 (eight years ago) link

The "bush did 9/11" and "lizard people run everything" conspiracies at least have internal logic, they're just based on false premises. This seems schizophrenic in nature.

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 04:58 (eight years ago) link

When pair-ents (two minds) or payer-rents choose to REGISTER their children, they are LITERALLY trading off the life source of the being that is SUCKED into that body in this reality for the whore of Baby-loans LEGAL NAME dead child, in essence, ADOPTING Satan’s child in LLEU of heaven’s child.

Read more at kateofgaia.net.

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:03 (eight years ago) link

There are just a lot of leaps there. I'm trying to follow ya kate of gaia but you make it hard

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:05 (eight years ago) link

how much more effective would their arguments be without capslock

i mean i know from me thats like the pot calling the kettle black but whatevs

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:07 (eight years ago) link

http://s30.postimg.org/3kcujdptt/image.png

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:08 (eight years ago) link

is the idea that ka te isn't bound by the laws bc the laws only recognize katie? is she mentally ill or a scam artist? If the former i feel bad making fun of her

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:11 (eight years ago) link

"whore of baby-loans" is pretty good i guess, credit where credit's due

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

I eagerly await the first solid ethnographic portrait of sovereign citizen thinking.

eyecrud (silby), Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:17 (eight years ago) link

I encountered kids in junior high who assured me they were masters of various martial arts, and knew special fighting techniques that made them invincible.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 7 April 2016 05:23 (eight years ago) link

Pecunidigms; Combines the meanings of ‘Paradigms’ with ‘Pecuniary Interest’ to take the meaning to a higher level, being ‘pecunidigm‘;

Where essentially a person protects their paradigm, because of a pecuniary interest, or protects their pecuniary interest because of thier paradigm, you decide…

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Eno, Ugh (ledge), Thursday, 7 April 2016 07:10 (eight years ago) link

e.g. 1. You are talking to a solar panel installer, and you ask a few questions of course because you are interested in some way, then you ask should your friend ‘xyz’ get an installation on their home? what do you think they will say hmmm?What is their paradigm, and then what is their pecuniary interest ??? BOOM pecunidigm motivator.

2. You are chatting with a friend of your friend at a party, and ask if you should engage a lawyer to do ‘xyz’, you find/found out that they are a retired lawyer… OK! so what do you think their paradigm is first, and then what do you you think their pecuniary interest is, perhaps one of their children went into law also??? BOOM ‘pecunidigm’.

BOOM!

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Eno, Ugh (ledge), Thursday, 7 April 2016 07:11 (eight years ago) link

Boom! yes those examples were crying out for a brilliant new weird

kinder, Thursday, 7 April 2016 11:53 (eight years ago) link

This seems schizophrenic in nature.

― Treeship, Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:58 AM (6 hours ago)

Careful, Treeshy. I get what you're saying here but... just be careful.

But yes, it's fascinating in its bizarreness. I do love the idea that the corrupt and evil conspiracy that runs the entire world will just leave you alone if you declare your contract void. Right. Also the completely made up etymologies are brilliant.

The stories of "success" are interesting too, as a) these are mostly privileged white people being let off for minor driving infractions, and b) half of them actually aren't "let off" without a family member or friend bailing them out, but it's still seen as a success story.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:17 (eight years ago) link

Would I be generalising too much if I were to suggest that the whole freemen idea is something only stupid, pugnacious white people are into?

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:19 (eight years ago) link

no

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

they really think laws are like spells or something

― lag∞n, Thursday, April 7, 2016 3:26 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been saying this since Max's article! Spells!

Would I be generalising too much if I were to suggest that the whole freemen idea is something only stupid, pugnacious white people are into?

― jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:19 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It would be within reason imo but they're not the only ones clinging to this kind of faux-legalism. It has a distinct "jailhouse lawyer" odor to it, just with a lot of extra trappings that maybe are the unique part.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:30 (eight years ago) link


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