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This wallowing in kitschy geek shite must end! (For one thread). The Bard, then - 37 plays, a couple of long poems, 150 (?) sonnets. They can't ALL be good - but they can't all be bad, either. Do your vers'd!

Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search: 'Venus & Adonis' and 'Lucrece' - in his big mad book, Shakespeare and the Goddess of Complete Being, Ted Hughes argues that these two early long poems lay the mythic foundations of the Shakespearian imagination - and, you know what?, I think he's right. WS working in a more flowing, lyrical style than we're used to from the plays or sonnets: startling and beautiful.

From the plays, it's gotta be 'Antony'n'Cleopatra' - the slow dazzle of mid-life sexiness;'Macbeth' - mental, bloody, hilarious; and 'Richard III' for dr demento statesmanship.

Destroy: Timon of Bleeding Athens. All the plays with Henry in the title (take your Falstaff and shove him, Harold Bloom). Romeo and Juliet.

stevie t, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom sez I should answer his query.

The Bard is the cultural thing most likely to make me act reactionarily to overpraise and canon-enforcing talk. I've enjoyed what few of his plays I've seen performed, but I don't like reading them. I should probably try reading them again now that I'm different as a reader (and actually finding it enjoyable to read plays at all), but until then my reaction stands.

I don't tend to like poetry from before about, oh, 1900, but I've been meaning to read the sonnets because of the contrast they'll give to John Berryman's Dream Songs. But I don't want to read them from my Complete Billy Shakes - would rather write them down separately, like on cards or a piece of paper, and savor them one-by-one. Just haven't gotten around to that yet though. Maybe I'll copy one down tonight.

Josh, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shakespeare is lame! Besides, he cribbed all of his best work from Christopher Marlowe anyway.

Can we go back to talking about fan fiction and Dr. Who now?

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

[insert oblig. gag here re rival HipHop/R&B studio-masterminds, Timbaland prob. too obvious, and argue that as Beyoncé is now producing self, Shaksper = dud]

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate, I heard the best stuff was actually written by Shakespeare's Sister. Ha. Heh.

People say that Timon of Athens isn't that good but what do I know? Christopher Marlowe is the Joy Division to Shakes' Soft Cell.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know I liked King Lear and Hamlet a lot. I'm pretty sure I liked Cymbeline and the Tempest pretty well. Macbeth was very dark and psychedelic, just my style in high school but I'm not sure I'd get much out of it now. Much of the rest I don't remember that clearly. The Zeferelli (sp?) R&J is very bad, and the DiCaprio/Danes R&J is unspeakable. Dud - Kenneth Branagh, even though I've never seen anything with him in it...oh wait, I saw his "Frankenstein", which I also remember being pretty good. Search - pro wrestling, which is the only form of theater I can stand watching, and whose debts to Shakespeare are transparent. Anyone see the classic Mid-South match where Ted Dibiase was chased by a bear? It was actually Hacksaw Jim Duggan in a bear costume!

Kris, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search: Richard III, especially the 1930s set Ian McKellen production
Destroy: The Anthony & Cleopatra production with Alan Rickman and Helen Mirren. Oh dear.

DG, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I quite liked the Rickman / Mirren A&C. Apparently the asp went missing from the set and was found on the other side of the Barbican. McKellen isn't totally without shame - his Macbeth was dreadfully hammy - 'Ihs thihs a dahggaahhh I seehhh before meehhhhhhh" etc.

Search the Tempest. Shakespeare knew he was dying, and wrote about his bookishness at last.

Destroy the Tempest. I have never seen a production which doesn't drag the singing out to the most tedious degree.

Magnus, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're pulling my leg now, surely. From what I remember the Rickman/Mirren prod. had nothing going for it, even the two leads didn't seem to like each other. Like, duh...

DG, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is Rickman/Mirren the one which opened at Stratford with going down on M (like, under her skirt)?

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I reckon McKellen's Richard III is a bit overrated. It's pretty cool in a whiz-bang, tanks bashing into Battersea power station sort of way, but in trying to turn it into an action flick some of the plot becomes almost incomprehensible. Large chunks of the political stuff got excised from the script, so characters seem to turn up out of nowhere and then get inexplicably knocked off. Also, Clarence's big speech, whilst a nice opportunity for Sir Humphrey(can't remember real name) to do a bit of orating, seems kind of incongruous in the big old gore-fest the flim became.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really like both Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet. How boring and pedestrian of me.

Granted, the main reason I like Romeo and Juliet is the film version from 1968 where Olivia Hussey flashes the camera rushing to the window. I'm glad my 9th grade English teacher didn't preview that tape before showing it...

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Soimetimes SHakespeares' "old school" style of grammar is at times beautiful and at times freakin undecipherable. Besides mos t of his stuff is so beat to death by now it all seem like cliche. I like Akira Kurasawa's adaptations .

-- Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Theatre of Blood" with Vincent Price kicks ass. Was Keanu Reeves really in a Shakespeare film? I can't imagine it. "Mer...cew...shee...o...Wyld Stallions rewl!!!!"

Joe, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

AH Keanu Reeves in Branagh's Much Ado About Nuttin'. A very interesting case in point since he is only the fourth worst actor in it. Third worst is Ben Elton. Second comes an appaling turn from the usually good Michael Keaton (can I say nuncle). Worst of course is Denzel Washington - by far and away the sloppiest actor in Hollywood today - here playing Keanu's half brother.

If I was writing my A-Level English exam again I would possibly remark that Keanu Reeves casting is a masterpiece. Don Pedro the character he plays is after all the villain. This is a Shakespeare comedy and as such the villain is written in a laughable pantomime way but also written clumsily: (Witness the line "Any cross, any bar, any impediment" - which would have worked so much better if it was "Any impediment, any cross, any bar"). The reason is that - this being a comedy - everyone gets off scot free. If Don Pedro was successful in being an evil character the ending would appear to lack justice. Hence by writing him like a fool, and having him played by an idiot, such a situation does not occur.

Sir Ian's Richard III is overblown but worth it merely for the shot of St Pancras as the Houses of Parliment. My Richard III was better ("Baran as King Richard possesses the comic touch of a young John Sessions": Borehamwood Times. I've not acted since.) And Antony & Cleopatra kicks ass - though I've never seen it performed particularly well.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shakespeare's great. I love reading Shakespeare. I think I'm gonna read some now, I've never read any, except MacBeth, which was just so-so. I love performing Shakespeare, that's even better. I was in a play about motorcycles and infidelity based on a sonnet once, it was fun. The Angelic Conversation, on which Dame Judy Dench reads sonnets, might be the best Coil album. I hate Romeo & Juliet, it's the worst story ever. Suck my lemon, R&J. Kenneth Branagh sucks at Shakespeare, but he's great otherwise. His Frankenstein and Wild Wild West, totally kick ass.

Otis Wheeler, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Destroy: King Lear. Set fire to it, anything. And if that doesn't work, summon the Devil himself to rid it from the world - sell your soul, it'll be worth it. It is dull with a capital dud.

Search: The film of Macbeth which features none other than (I'm not making this up) child actor Keith Chegwin playing the little boy/minstrel. This lightened up my GCSE English class considerably, I seem to remember. (The gratuitous lopping off of heads helped as well, probably.)

Bill

Bill, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Destroy: Henry IV Part 1 one evening and Part 2 the next. I realised it was a mistake half way through Part 1, but already had tickets for the following night so I had to go back. Also destroy Stratford upon fucking Avon.

Search: Robert Lindsay as Benedick in the BBC production of Much Ado About Nothing, Robert Lindsay as Richard III (RSC), Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith. Also search my GCSE exam paper on Macbeth which I wrote with zero revision and without even having read the thing. Wish I could get my hands on it - must be hilarious.

Madchen, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

DG:

If you mean I've got to be joking about liking it, then, no, I did quite like it, but not hugely. I had heard that they had changed it between inception and the performance I saw, and I think the reviews were, ahem, mixed. Nice plot, though.

If you mean I've got to be joking about the awol snake, I am delighted and astonished to offer this proof:

http://members.tripod.com/~emma_on_line/cedric.html

Magnus, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Destroy: Anthony and Cleopatra: Saw a production of this in a tiny theatre in Malvern with Venessa Redgrave. She did her typical OTT shtick and so couldn't help the play which is just sooo dreary and plodding. Possibly the worst of Shaky's 'major' plays. Troilus and Cressida: A confusing, difficult mess from what I could make out.

Search: Hamlet. It actually IS his best. By a margin so big it ain't funny. Brannagh's film is also great *despite* Brannagh RUINING so much of the text with his mannered reading - especially where his voice goes all squeaky. God, I hate that. - and the 'What a piece of work is a man?' speech is totally thrown away as Ken climbs some stairs and distractedly blurts it out. GRRRR! How *could* he? The film is saved, however, by three brilliant performances by Derek Jacobi, Julie Christie and Kate Winslet - her Ophelia is still, apart from her Sue in Jude, her best work. And her singing is genuinely haunting.

Oh yeah, also Destroy Stratford, *especially* the RSC theatre - an ugly, squat, charmless 70's-nightmare building.

DavidM, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stevie - never seen Timon but always quite wanted to - what's so bad about it?

Troilus And Cressida is excellent, or was the one time I saw it. Thersites is one of his best characters, and the play as a whole is remarkably clear-sighted (read: immensely cynical) in its approach to romance. Yes, there are a billion characters though, and I had a kind of advantage from knowing who they all are anyway.

Measure For Measure is another underrated one - a nasty judicial thriller nestling inside a comedy.

The jealousy scenes in Winter's Tale are nerve-rackingly horrible (in a good way). The hippie scenes in same are pretty awful though.

I used to know one of the sonnets off by heart. Cant even remember what number it was now.

All round greatness award to Lear, I think.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Re: Stratford. When small-ish went on school trip to see Julius Caesar. They had just installed at NORMOUS XPENSE their new all- automated stage and boy-o-boy were they going to automate! Great blocks and cubes moving up and down: there's a brief scene at sea (?), and they threw the floor into ACTUAL WAVE-MOTION!! Amazing! I remember zero abt the performance (or anyway who was in it): the only other thing I recall is that when Caesar'a ghosts appears, they threw a red spot onto the face of a giant statue to him that had been around in early scenes (then during the battle, his face loomed over the conspirators again, as they're losing...)

Subsequent school trips, I was always hoping for maximum floor-wave action, but got none. I also saw Twelfth Night there (Judi Dench as the twin sister?): I was perhaps somewhat stirred by all the girls-as-boys cross- dressing (to be honest I can't remember, so perhaps not) but afterwards baffled my English teacher when he asked which character we liked best: the Sea Captain, I piped up. Why? I knew not how to answer, and just mumbled: actual ans = because (all hulking and dressed in dark grey leather and fabby black thigh-boots) he totally Had Pash on redhead Sebastian, which is why he promises to wait for him at the seaside. I didn't understand analytically why I so took to him: but def.intuited in blurry yet strong way the whatever of this bearish smitten Daddy so doting on his slender boyish- girlish charge (charge who was in fact IN charge: rowr). The sea captain I still remember. All the comedy stuff with Malvolio and Sir Toby Belch: gone, pretty much.

Saw Lear open-air at Ludlow in mid-teens. Fell in love with Cordelia of course (Hopey Glass for Jacobeans), considered Edmund the Bastard v.hard done by, and delighted that — when [who? Kent?] has eyes pulled out, the puller threw actual meaty blobs INTO THE AUDIENCE!! (No, maybe only onto the stage: but this was still First-Class Entertainment)

The part I actually always liked best on these school trips was chicken-in-a-basket, a type of food that now seems as medieval as salmagundy...

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Stevie: from what you say, I don't see the logic of the Hughes argument you back. But then I wouldn't - I can't believe that that book is worth reading. I'm afraid I can't back your choices either.

Search: Hamlet; King Lear; Measure For Measure ('underrated', Tom? Not among Shakespeareans); Richard II; Henry IV (both, but especially Part I); Henry VI Part II (now THAT's underrated: intriguing comical representation of peasants' rebellion, c. 1450).

I'm not particularly keen on (The Rape Of) Lucrece, Othello, Macbeth, or even everyone else's fave Antony & Cleopatra. Henry V has moments but is quite bad as a whole. I can't stand Richard III, either.

Interesting: The Merchant Of Venice.

Search also: Stephen Dedalus on Shakespeare, though not for clarity or plausibility.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search: Macbeath, R3, Midsummers night dream , As you like it, Twelfth Night
Destroy: Trolius and Cessida,Hamlet
I would destroy R&J but the nurses part wins me over.

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
Shakespeare is great!!!! Especially Mac Beth

Ryan Omalley, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Hip hip hooray for Shakespeare! On his magical birthing day! (we'll gloss over his not-so magical unbirthing day)

jel --, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I have just reread Henry IV, Part 1. It's (still) tremendous - such social and verbal range, such dramatic diversity, such political weight. But does anyone else hate the appalling 'Prince Hal' as much as I do?

the pinefox, Sunday, 20 April 2003 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a production of Winter's Tale at Tulane and was blown away by it. (The one with the famous "He exits, chased by a bear" line.) Big, sprawling, loopy, even kinda silly ... but totally engrossing. I love his sonnets and have simply had to force myself to appreciate his plays, but after Winter's Tale I want to see more productions of them.

jewelly (jewelly), Sunday, 20 April 2003 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Pete (replying to someone two years on, C or D?), can you please confirm, whether true or not, that you portrayed King Richard using The Voice?

My favourites: I love loads of the sonnets, plus Lear, Hamlet, Macbeth, Tempest, Midsummer Night's Dream, Othello.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 20 April 2003 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

That one's my favorite too, the pinefox (just finished rereading it tonight), and I'm glad to know I'm not alone in detesting Hal. His rejection of Falstaff at the end of Part 2 is, for my money, the most heart-rending moment in all of literature, and it chills me to think that some people might actually sympathize with the bastard king in that scene. He was the George W. Bush of 14th century England, only smarter (maybe).

I'm working on a paper on how Falstaff gradually takes over the plays and how supposed hero Hal becomes gradually less sympathetic, so I'd like to hear any insights you might have into that.

Have you ever seen Orson Welles's film of both Henrys (plus some of the others), Chimes at Midnight?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 21 April 2003 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Only two mentions so far of Twelfth Night, classical British comedy 350 years before J. Arthur Rank or Ealing or the Goons or Monty Python.

Fred Nerk, Monday, 21 April 2003 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Tempest is a given, if only cause I've had a crack at playing Prospero. Strange though, that you grow up having Shakespeare thrown at you with a large shovel, put your hackles up at the ready, only to think hang on....this is quite good.....

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 April 2003 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

JD: yes, I think Chimes at Midnight a major work.

What is the nature of this paper you're working on?

I might have more thoughts later. (In fact - I already do.)

Reading HIV1+2 again is strongly reminding me of both Blair *and* Bush, in their different ways. Issues of politics, strategy, presentation (Blair), and of ways to secure the appearance of legitimacy when it has initially been doubted (Bush). Such 'presentism' sounds crass and insensitive. But in this case... it isn't.

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link

JD: if you want something to kick against, check out Norman N. Holland's intro to the Signet HIV#2. Appallingly reactionary: 'everyone must realize his correct place in the natural order', etc.

You might get along better with Graham Holderness on the histories, if you don't already know his work.

For all their qualities, the Henry plays are dispiriting.

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

pinefox: thanks for that, I'll check those out. I've mainly been using Bloom, whose 50-page discussion is mostly a love hymn to his favorite character, with some good insights buried here and there, as when he notes that Falstaff's faults are minor compared to those of every other character (Henry IV = usurper and murderer, Henry V = hypocrite and imperialist slaughterer).

The Bush/Hal parallels are eerily obvious:

"Be it thy course to busy giddy minds with foreign quarrels, that action, hence borne out, may waste the memory of the former days."

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 21 April 2003 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

It's astounding that HV is framed, explained and anticipated with those lines, yet still enthusiastically accepted as a celebration of going to war.

Or perhaps I mean: how can we reconcile Shakespeare's 'support for war' in HV with those lines at the end of HIV2?

They really are the Smoking Gun; or perhaps the Discharg'd Pistol.

Other major issues:

1) does HIV as a whole seem to legitimate the Henries as Kings? If it wants to do so, why insist so often on their illegitimacy, as usurpers? (Empson said that usurpation was the secret theme of the Henriad.)

2) How facile is it that HIV tells HV: "I was never seen as legitimate, cos I was a usurper; but you'll inherit from me, so you'll be seen as legitimate"? (This is what gets me thinking of Bush: not the father-son succession, but the way Bush will find later ratifications of his initially bogus legitimacy.)

3) How about the trickery and treachery of the royal forces in HIV2, Act IV? Unbelievable! The King's party is Machiavellian through and through.

4) Note the utter callousness, with a strong class edge, of Hal in HIV1. Not so much the famous soliloquy in which he dissociates himself from Falstaff et al (bad enough), but the dreadful scene in which he 'humiliates' the Drawer Francis ('Anon, anon!'), then has the cheek to mock Francis's lack of verbal range! It is insupportable to read of this character being endorsed as 'mirror of English kings', 'ideal form of the monarch' (see the astoundingly bad finale to Maynard Mack's intro to Signet HIV1).

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

What I find spooky about Hal is his absolute indifference to human life (which obviously serves him well enough as king and conqueror): he seeks out Falstaff because he's more entertaining than his real father, but he doesn't really care about either of them. Bloom notes that Hal is constantly on the attack whenever we see him with Falstaff in Part 1, and his attitude becomes positively murderous during the "play extempore" at the end of Act Two, when he openly declares his intent to banish Falstaff; meanwhile, the scene where Henry wakes up to see his son trying on the crown speaks for itself, though Hal tries rather weakly to defend himself in Falstaffian mode.

Although Henry V is commonly portrayed as a hero-king (see Olivier's film) I don't think many people in any audience feel that way by the end of HIV Part 2.

What do you make of the epilogue to that play? It seems baffling to me: I can't think of another play Shakespeare felt the need to apologize to the audience for. It also seems odd that he promises to bring Falstaff back in the next play, and doesn't (not that he could have had any place in it, without ruining the patriotic bombast).

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

It is strange - in an interesting way; I like metatheatrical Shakespeare. The epilogue chimes somewhat with the Induction - how much drama in that mere stage direction, 'Enter Rumour, Painted Full of Tongues'! And how about the offer to dance, and the mysterious claim that 'All the gentlewomen here have forgiven me'? The note to my text says 'perhaps the Epilogue was spoken by the Page', as though that explains it. According, again, to my text, the function of at least the last para of the Epilogue is to dissociate Falstaff from his historical model Sir John Oldcastle, by saying that they met different ends.

Very strange. Empson again (Kenyon Review, Spring 1953): Falstaff's 'food for powder' speech says to HIV: "that is all you Norman lords want, in your squabbles between cousins over your loot, which you make an excuse to murder the English people".

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

JD: you should also look at

C.L. Barber, Shakespeare's Festive Comedy (1959) on folk tradition and carnival (and cf also Bakhtin, Rabelais And His World)

Robert Ornstein, A Kingdom For A Stage (1972), on history and Shakespeare's aesthetic play with it in the histories

Derek Cohen, Shakespearean Motives (1988), on rituals of violence

Graham Holderness, Shakespeare's History (1985), on politics of Shakespeare's epic drama

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Justyn D: I have been meaning to tell you that GEORGE ORWELL, in some brief early-40s piece, also agrees with us about 'Prince Hal', whose name I still seem unable to write without inverted commas.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen a supposedly complete collection of Orwell's essays around; next time I'm in the bookstore I'll see if I can find that piece.

question for debate: who was the Hal/Henry V of Orwell's day?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The Enigma machine?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

saw hank 5 yesterday, loved it.
prince hal and all that.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

has anyone ever read the humour piece called "Prince Harry Hotspur"? It's about some schoolboy who didn't pay attention and ended up thinking that Prince Hal and Harry Hotspur were the same person. He then has to explain away the scene where they FITE as being Prince Hotspur taking on the dark side of his character.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That sounds like something Kramer would do.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually it's more Joey from Friends.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I wuv Shakespeare as a playwright. It's strange, but he is always held up as being the pinnacle of drama, yet no one tries to write like him (you know, write plays with battles and political events and wars and stuff in them).

one day I will change this.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

no one writes plays where everyone talks in iambic pentameter either. someone should change this.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

DV, do you know Edward Bond's Lear?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't know that play.

did Edward Bond do Early Morning, the one about Queen Victoria having an affair with Florence Nightingale, and her heir being half of a pair of siamese twins?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

http://teacherweb.com/IL/Golf67/Joyner/Shnikeys-Shakespeare.jpg

Dada, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

(you know, write plays with battles and political events and wars and stuff in them)

Surely, in its way, Angels In America fits this criterion.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

just watching this again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHlngY6Bgk

as a result of reading this
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/ian-mckellen-10-best-shakespeare-roles-on-film?CMP=fb_gu

proper chills.

piscesx, Sunday, 3 April 2016 17:29 (six years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08b2cgm

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two years pass...

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