Warren Beatty, washing machine

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Someone really ought to rinse him down, soak through his ancient porous pores.

I mean what's he ever done that's any good, including all his acknowledged "greats," all of which are rub.

Emmanuel Goldstein, Monday, 30 September 2002 14:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Beatty is interesting as one of the first "stars" of the post TV cinema age to wrest control from the studios and look not just for intelligent vehicles for his perhaps limited talents but also to act/direct. He has been in some tosh but McCabe & Mrs Miller, Reds and Bulworth (oh yes) show a real immersion in the possibilities of what someone with a bit of control can do within the system.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 30 September 2002 14:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Actually I forgot about The Parallax View. That was a film and a half, especially the indoctrination "promo video" which Beatty watches about halfway through. Really scared me at the time. I quite liked Shampoo as well.

Emmanuel Goldstein, Monday, 30 September 2002 14:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

those 5 + 'splendour in the grass' + 'bugsy'
not a bad resumé
i need to see 'mickey one'

zebedee, Monday, 30 September 2002 14:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'Bonnie and Clyde' isn't as rub as EG is making out.

He did 'inspire' David Thomson's worst bk, tho'.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 30 September 2002 14:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I reckon by the same token as Pete says, WB is rub, as he also associated thew possibilities of stars doing their own thing within the system with

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 30 September 2002 16:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

such record breaking flops as Ishtar and Town & Country. Particularly the second one, which was his baby, cost $90m (mostly for the stars salaries), and made $6m in the US. He's making "Artists making films" with "coke-heads piss away money"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 30 September 2002 16:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Please insert the word "synonymous" in the previous sentence.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 30 September 2002 16:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...
i had to switch off 'bugsy' after 20 minutes. beatty is terrible!

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

One of the more talented movie stars of the last 40+ years.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

lol

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

he's painfully ingratiating.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this isn't "pretty woman", is it?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Does anyone remember Axl Rose dissing him on stage once? What was that about?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

axl thought beatty seriously misrepresented the real clyde barrow.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Bonnie & Clyde is incredible!!

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

http://movies.nnov.ru/Covers/Dick%20Tracy.jpg

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From time to time I've been tempted to do a "Taking Sides" thread RE: Beatty Vs. Shirley MacLaine. It'd be a draw for me.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

As John McCabe said, "I got poetry in me."

http://www.cinemastudio.com/moviegallery/bulworth.JPG

"You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican! Let's call a spade a spade!
I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!"


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oh my god Dick Tracy, I actually sat and watched part of that, like the middle thru the end, not that long ago. WTF? What the hell are Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman doing?!

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Aside from Donnie Brasco, one of Pacino's few ace parts in the last 20 years! He's GREAT! misquoting Jefferson and Nietzsche!

And Beatty actually made a comic-strip movie that LOOKED like one, instead of these gr*phic n*vel basement-boy jizzfests. I love when he says to Tess, slipping out of the opera, "I'll be back, I wanna see how it comes out."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

morbius otm its a great great movie

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You guys are misunderstanding my "WTF are Pacino and Hoffman doing?" in my post. I do believe I'm on record here somewhere as stating that this is possibly the only role that Pacino has taken in 20 years where his bizarre shoutingacting truly works. But still! WTF!

Re: comic strip movies that look like comic strips, be more specific about what you are talking about because you'll find that a lot of these movies DO look like exactly what they are based off of. Just because they're not the versions you like doesn't mean they aren't imitating the look of the comic. This is not a defense of Frank Fucking Miller, just a comment. Though I do have to say I preferred Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Tim Burton's first Batman flick.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

He's not a great actor and his persona doesn't quite work for me, but he can be a good actor, has led in some great movies, and I like him for his (limited) efforts and charm-despite-the-smarm.

Bulworth is not a great movie, and I find its attitude too diffident/distant/cynical/unserious (it's what you think about politics if your major role in it is going to Hollywood events and sending people lots of money), but at least he's trying and I liked it a lot the first time around (it doesn't hold up that well).

Dick Tracy is ridiculous, but I think seriously underrated. Also perhaps the role best-suited for him.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

OTM about Warren Beatty being the perfect Dick Tracy.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Tim Burton's first Batman flick.

wrong!!!! you just like bale more than keaton!!!

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batman forever is seriously underrated

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If that was the only thing going for it in my mind then that awful thing with George Clooney as Batman would be my favorite film of all!

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It doesn't help that I find Halle Berry and Oliver Platt v. v. annoying.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dick Tracy is great, for all the reasons noted by Morbs and Ally!! I got a soft spot for Beatty, but Bulworth seemed to try a little too hard to me...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Halle Berry and Oliver Platt ARE annoying.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Bulworth is a piece of shit.

Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Hair washing machine!

http://www.famouslocations.com/images/movies/shampoo_.jpg

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

dick tracy is great! better than batman (88-97 version). batman begins is a shade better, though.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Warren Beatty is what George Hamilton would be if he genuinely knew how to smile.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

he's looking more and more like arlen specter these days

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've never understood what George Hamilton is famous for.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Talk about Reds, people.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In circa 1966 the whole Free World was agog to learn that the daughter of the President of the United States of America (I think it may have been Lucy Bird) was dating a bona fide Hollywood movie star (he was upgraded for this role) named George Hamilton. Our boy George (see what I did there?) punched his ticket for the Fame Train and never looked back.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've never seen Reds. I'll get around to it one of these days...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

so George Hamilton has actually acted in movies? this is news to me.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Hamilton played Hank Williams.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

godfather III!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

He was tolerable as the structuring central cipher around which revolved Brigitte Bardot and Jeanne Moreau in Viva Maria!.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two french croissants and a slice of american cheese

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Love at First Bite!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

discussing Hamilton on a Beatty thread is like discussing Dick York on a Nicholson thread.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That's a pretty weird metaphor, even though it seems to be completely correlary.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nah, i like that stuff. go big or go home!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 04:36 (two years ago) Permalink

I think Ishtar was drubbed because losing money is a surefire way to get hated in Hollywood. When they put up big upfront $$ they demand big $$ results.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:36 (two years ago) Permalink

i remember laughing fitfully for the first 45 minutes of Ishtar, and not much after that.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:38 (two years ago) Permalink

also i love Elaine May, but her working 'methods' seem utterly nuts esp in postproduction

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:39 (two years ago) Permalink

I want to see Ishtar. I have Mikey And Nicky here waiting to be watched, too.

Jerry Lee Lewis: The Total Film-Maker (stevie), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 08:28 (two years ago) Permalink

mikey and nicky is great. ishtar has become kind of overrated as an overcorrection in some quarters though not nearly as much as say heaven's gate. it received a high degree of notoriety as a flop because it had a long and troubled production so the pump was primed, it was dustin hoffman's first movie since tootsie and warren beatty's first movie since reds so it was kind of an event and frankly there were alot of ppl ready to take joy in those two flopping esp w/ beatty, who still had a kind of aura around him as not just a movie star (esp since around this time his buddy gary hart looked like he would be the next president). town and country (look it up) was a bigger disaster on all counts but by then america had moved on to ben affleck for their smug pretty boy kicks so instead of talking about town and country we talk about gigli.

balls, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:42 (two years ago) Permalink

don't forget Love Affair.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:09 (two years ago) Permalink

Stevie, if you have Mikey and Nicky to watch on this UK DVD, I would hold off - the image quality is atrocious, and utterly ruins the film:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mikey-Nicky-DVD-Peter-Falk/dp/B000062Y53?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Mickey One is fascinating btw

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:17 (two years ago) Permalink

A good while back I caught on tv a good chunk of $ (Dollars), an early 70s German-set heist movie w/Beatty, Goldie Hawn, and a bunch of local character actors who appeared to be waiting for Fassbinder to cast them in something. Was intriguing, but I've yet to revisit.

I notice that one of the main actors is the dude from "The Goalkeeper's Fear of the Penalty Kick".

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:20 (two years ago) Permalink

Ishtar also cost whatever ($100 million?) and no one under 30 wanted to see a big-budget spin on Hope & Crosby.

Isn't odd that there's only one mention way up top of Splendor in the Grass? William Inge is kind of the quintessential acclaimed middlebrow dramatist of that era, but it's quite a time capsule of how sex & youth was regarded in 1961.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/53/44/af/5344af1a97cae14b50f86cdf871cbc9b.jpg

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:47 (two years ago) Permalink

thanks for the warning Ward!

Jerry Lee Lewis: The Total Film-Maker (stevie), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 16:16 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

gets a title & a release date

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1974420/

johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 May 2016 13:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Bening, Alec Baldwin, Haley Bennett, Candice Bergen, Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, Steve Coogan, Taissa Farmiga, Ed Harris, Megan Hilty, Oliver Platt, and Martin Sheen.

King Nagl (Eazy), Thursday, 19 May 2016 13:07 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I get the distinct impression that the actors making that movie had a lot more fun making it than any of its viewers will have in viewing it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:44 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

“Peter Lawford invited Beatty out to his house in Malibu for a night of tacos and poker, and Monroe was there. ‘I hadn’t seen anything that beautiful,’ Beatty recalls. She invited him to take a walk along the beach, which he did.”

In a presumed reference to their stroll. Beatty tells Kashner “it was more soulful than romantic.”

“Back in the house he played the piano. Marilyn sat on the edge of the piano in something so clingy that Beatty could tell she wasn’t wearing underwear. ‘How old are you?’ she asked. ‘Twenty-five,’ he answered. ‘How old are you?” he asked cheekily. ‘Three…six,’ she said, as if not wanting to bring the two numbers together.

“By then the tacos had arrived, and no one really played poker that night. Warren noticed that Marilyn was already a bit tipsy from champagne, even before the sun had set.

“The next day Harold Mirisch, brother of the producer Walter Mirisch, called. ‘Did you hear?’ he asked. ‘Marilyn Monroe is dead.’ Warren was one of the last people to see Marilyn alive — a story Beatty tells only reluctantly.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/10/warren-beatty-interview

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

He doesn’t smoke or drink and has taken good care of himself over the decades. “If you see pictures of me smoking,” he said as we drove up the canyon, “I was acting. What I do like very much is the smell of cigar smoke.” He had the distinction of being sent a box of cigars by none other than Fidel Castro, who admired Reds. “They were just unbelievable. I smoked one every night after dinner, and I talked until four A.M.”...

“There’s this misapprehension that it’s a biopic,” Beatty explains, “which it’s not, although Howard is an important character in it. I wanted to do a story about a girl who comes from being the Apple Blossom Queen of Winchester, Virginia [Marla Mabrey, played by Lily Collins], and a boy who is a Methodist from Fresno [Frank Forbes, played by Alden Ehrenreich], who is under the same religious influences that I was raised in. I wanted to do a story about that young man and that young woman that also deals with money and misogyny in late-1950s Hollywood.”

One doesn’t immediately associate Beatty with puritanical guilt and repression, but that is the world he grew up in, in conservative Virginia in the 1940s and 50s, and the one he has rebelled against his entire life. “I’m afraid it still remains a big subject in America,” he says, “which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal with—a young man and a young woman involved with an unpredictable billionaire, who had no rules he had to follow because of his inheritance and his way of life. So it’s also about the effect of Hollywood on those rules, and the effect of money.”

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 15:39 (one year ago) Permalink

which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal wit

who gives a fuck what France thinks about us lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:10 (one year ago) Permalink

The story of a young man coming to Hollywood from a conservative background is one he knows all too well. He and his sister, the actress Shirley MacLaine, were raised by Southern Baptist parents.

wow how the hell did i never know this?

nomar, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I will never know why so women found Beatty hot. I don't see or feel it. Good hair though!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:22 (one year ago) Permalink

this is still my favorite lyric from "we didn't start the fire"

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

wow how the hell did i never know this?

I've always been fascinated by this tidbit. both seem like p fucked up people tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:48 (one year ago) Permalink

They lived in my neighborhood, and went to my daughter's school.

i wanna fly like a beagle (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

ever classy Shakes. i think the fact that they are alive and functioning after 60 years in that whirlpool attests to some sort of tenacious strength.

lookin fwd to the film

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

also WB praised his transgender son as a hero in that profile

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 18:20 (one year ago) Permalink

beatty seems pretty chill, seems to have had an enviable life and career if that's the kind of life and career you're going for.

nomar, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:20 (one year ago) Permalink

lol sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities Morbz, my wife just finished Shirley's daughter's autobio which does not paint a flattering portrait. I am a big fan of both of their bodies of work in general fwiw.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:21 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm sure Shirl can be a pain in the ass, i watched Letterman

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 18:22 (one year ago) Permalink

less pain in the ass and more like narcissistic dimbulb

Shirley MacLaine is cool

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:27 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

that movie is already gone from NYC. The box office numbers are really awful.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Rules-Dont-Apply#tab=box-office

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 December 2016 17:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I missed the screening; saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 December 2016 17:59 (one year ago) Permalink

The film ended up grossing $1.6 million in its opening weekend (with a five-day total of $2.2 million), finishing 12th at the box office. It marked the worst Thanksgiving debut ever for a wide release and 6th worst opening ever for a film playing in more than 2,000 theaters.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

this is like a rock v hard place deal except neither choice is as interesting as a rock

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Rules Don't Apply
Budget: $25,000,000
Gross: $3,580,979

Ishtar [adjusted for inflation]
Budget: $117,034,290
Gross: $30,588,910

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:35 (one year ago) Permalink

(I know he didn't direct the latter, but just for comparison's sake.)

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:35 (one year ago) Permalink

$25M is low-budget for a period piece.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:41 (one year ago) Permalink

I've been meaning to watch Reds for years and years. I'm unlikely to have 4 hours to spare to watch it in one go, would it ruin it if I tried to watch it episodically?

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:12 (one year ago) Permalink

if you must, I would go with halves; there's an intermission. It's only 3:20.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:03 (one year ago) Permalink

That sounds do-able, thanks Morbs.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:21 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Rules is not bad! All three principals are pretty good, in fact. Steve Coogan has one very funny scene in a cockpit while HH sings a Jolson medley.

Steve Mnuchin was a producer and has a wordless cameo (alongside a small gem of an Oliver Platt performance).

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 05:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Beatty literally closes the curtain on his career in his last scene, works as a masked autobiography in many ways.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:25 (one year ago) Permalink

didn't know the lead actress in RDA was Paperlate's daughter

good take here:

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2016/1123/Rules-Don-t-Apply-Warren-Beatty-s-directorial-return-is-disarmingly-light

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:21 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

rewatched Dick Tracy; love Pacino, Headly, the production design/effects and most of the jokes.

don't like La Ciccone and the loudness/replication of Burton's Batman in the last half hour (down to Elfman scoring it).

this is the best Sondheim song in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUZgORmrSY

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah thats about how i feel about it too

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Madonna has one good line reading where she sez about the Kid "What a cute little boy," like she wants to smother him.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:55 (one month ago) Permalink

She is a terrible actress

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:59 (one month ago) Permalink

well she's not even a compelling presence in this

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:00 (one month ago) Permalink


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