Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Frances Ha"

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http://www.villagevoice.com/2013-05-08/film/greta-gerwig-isn-t-your-average-it-girl/

uh, did we know that Baumbach divorced Jennifer Jason Leigh soon after Greenberg, and that he and Gerwig are now a couple? Bet he gets less shit about it than Thurston Moore.

Anyway, cautiously optimistic on the new one, GG deserves to be the first mumblecore-hatched star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YKHRQkf7k

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

I didn't how to feel about'em after reading The New Yorker profile.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

this looks really up my alley tbh

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

I didn't how to feel about'em after reading The New Yorker profile.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:16 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, baumbach came off like a v. inscrutable guy.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

I like that GG feels compelled to point out that this film was hatched before Girls hit HBO. Cuz the culture can only accept one type of young woman in Brooklyn.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

didn't mind his hair though

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

I loved Greenberg. Psyched about this.

whiskey and ice cream sandwiches (Treeship), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

this looks really up my alley tbh

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:18 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

looks like a "feel-good" remake of hannah takes the stairs

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

lemme just google that bad boy... haha whoa, thats not a good thing at all!!

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

I like that GG feels compelled to point out that this film was hatched before Girls hit HBO. Cuz the culture can only accept one type of young woman in Brooklyn.

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe because the precious bonsai children of new york are already overrepresented in popular culture

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

ty

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

and also this movie sounds a lot like one of the subplots of Girls and the main character bears certain similarities to hannah horvath and the movie features adam driver

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

fun fact: "The Drama of the Gifted Child" was originally to be titled "The Drama of the Narcissistic Child" but the author realized it wouldn't sell that way.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

well yeah there's that too, but not having ever seen Girls i can't swear to any similarities aside from one actor.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

the precious bonsai children of new york

this pleases me

adam, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

I think you mean 'escapees from flyover country'

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

greenberg was so good, so perfect, so greenberg

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

interesting artist is an asshole film at 11

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

maybe baumbach's a bit of a greenberg, the movie makes even more sense to me now

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

greenberg was kind of ok but damn it had such a myopic view of la

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

good.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

hungry4whites

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

What L.A. movie besides The Long Goodbye doesn't?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

repo man

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Noah Baumbach Greta Gerwig Ben Stiller - Repo Man

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

My brother and I quote Greenberg the way high schoolers used to quote Anchorman. Favs include "I'm thinking of getting back into drugs" and "I'm just trying to do nothing for a while." This movie is a cult classic by now, no? I liked the interview with Greta Gerwig fwiw. Also I cant really blame anyone for falling for New Chloe Sevigny... that seems like a personal matter.

whiskey and ice cream sandwiches (Treeship), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

This is probably my most-anticipated film of 2013.

jaymc, Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

The Squid and the Whale was way better than Greenberg, which was itself really good, so I'm looking forward to this, Baumbach douchiness notwithstanding.

Neil S, Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

i think the baumbach divorce thing looks bad from the outside, but we don't know what was actually going on in their marriage so i am going to withhold judgement.

whiskey and ice cream sandwiches (Treeship), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

I'm waiting for the kid to grow up and make a movie about it. Due in 2040 or so?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

lol @ this, fuck baumbach

"Soon after shooting wrapped[on Greenberg], the director emailed Gerwig, asking her what she thought was going on in the hearts and minds of people her age"

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

lololol

Treeship, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

More like in the pants amirite.

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

The trailer is the worst kind of nineties dr(lol)oll indie romcom.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

i wish that line worked if you weren't old, and a fancy movie director

j., Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

it does look super 90s. im cool with that

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I'm looking foward seeing this. Love GeeGee.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

way better than the G.G. we had in the 90s

Treeship, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

Ha. Were you around back then, Treeship?

Retreat from the Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

lol no. i'm 24. i know of g.g. allin from the todd philips documentary.

Well, at least thanks to this thread I now know who actually watches movies like this for pleasure—I saw the trailer and it made me want to track down everyone involved and set them on fire one at a time.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

it shows girls dancing to express their love of life

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

alf didnt u love damsels in distress

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

Does it have car chases, gunfire, explosions, and people getting punched in the face? Because those are the common factors of the TV shows I watch.

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

I've only seen three of his movies (Annie Hall, Sleeper and Love and Death) and I hated all three. They had a disturbing lack of car chases, gunfire, explosions etc.

I do like Whit Stillman's movies, though...

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

I have this half-baked theory about Baumbach films that the divorce-damaged kids in Squid and the Whale are sympathetic because they're kids, but that Baumbach's other characters tend to be like kids from the same experience and milieu who are older but never really grew up, and they stop being as sympathetic.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

Margot was how I discovered Karen Dalton's "Something on Your Mind,

Let Me Make You A Cool Mixtape direction

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Friday, 13 December 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link

Well...throw in Kenneth Anger and the guy who made Mean Streets and Who's That Knocking at My Door, too.

clemenza, Friday, 13 December 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

I think he's an indie "it" guy but this movie is the only place i can think of where he was dreamy. On Girls his character can be pretty dark at times, and is always a little "off" and not in a cute way.

― Treeship, Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:38 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

way late on this, but false^

also GG looks like nellie mckay

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Saturday, 14 December 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

gg got a gg nom

jaymc, Sunday, 15 December 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link

I'm sort of agnostic about Baumbach - his movies get really close to something I like/appreciate/get something out of, and I can't tell if that's ironically what makes them good or what makes them, you know, fall short - but his pile of glass gag in "Kicking and Screaming" is one of my all time favorite jokes.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Wasn't a dedicated Gerwig thread, so.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/greta-gerwig-star-cbs-how-679633

Simon H., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link

ok i am gonna call that 'how i met greta gerwig' from now on, i don't care if that doesn't make sense

j., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

this movie sucked 1 butt

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 04:23 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Pretty, but aggravating. Something like the cinematic equivalent of what its prettiest (yet sill aggravating) character might call "undateable."

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

fantastic movie! i'm amazed this thread hasn't been revived for a year.

anyway check this if you liked the film, and avoid it like the plague if you didn't. Gerwig goes through *all 42* takes of the 28 seconds-long 'scene in the bathroom' (which she co-wrote) making notes on each one. in the end Baumbach went back and used 'Take 29' anyway, having made his actors go through a full hour of unnecessary re-takes. i don't think i've read a piece like it before, ever.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/magazine/one-scene-42-takes-and-2-hours-in-a-bathroom-stall.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

piscesx, Saturday, 7 February 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

trailer for the new one seems really whit stillman (like, more so than usual) - quite excited

gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Monday, 27 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

he doesn't sit about that lad.

piscesx, Monday, 27 July 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

we can start a nu thread

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 July 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=TL-B8SdE6D0

god, this is stilted - I don't expect better of Gerwig, but Baumbach feels like he's regressing the more contact he has with mumblecore people

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 27 July 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

frances ha > while we're young > mistress america is a v good run of movies imo fyi

johnny crunch, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

baumbach is the closest thing to rohmer that currently exists and roughly no one presently cares but whatever i guess

johnny crunch, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link

deserves its own thread

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 August 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

Clearly Hong Sang Soo is the modern Rohmer. And I care a lot about that being acknowledged!

Frederik B, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

NB not really anywhere close to ER

and yeah you ppl have to get less fucking lazy about starting threads

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

what about greenberg

nose, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

noah baumbach is the closest thing to 2004 - 2007 woody allen that currently exists, kinda like late woody allen only with less visual finesse. frederik one trillion percent otm.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 05:12 (eight years ago) link

noah baumbach is the closest thing to 2004 - 2007 woody allen that currently exists,

no need to be insulting

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:59 (eight years ago) link

I liked this movie. Baumbach and Gerwig push whimsy so far out that it's in danger of just drifting away yet it never does. Some of the best dialogue I've heard in an American movie too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 September 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

frances Ha or MIstress America?

just saw the latter - some really LOL moments at the ex's house in that one.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 7 September 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

MA. The ex's house scenes are choreographed like a ballet (Dean Wareham is the only sour note).

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 September 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

yeah otm. baumbachs timing / dialogue / editing have been so strong in these last few

johnny crunch, Monday, 7 September 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link

even like throw away lines just ring perfectly to me like when they first arrive at the connecticut house and the guy is like "holy shit those pregnant women are super smart"

johnny crunch, Monday, 7 September 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

YOU PPL BETTER NOT BE TALKIN BOUT MISTRESS AMERICA

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 September 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link

whadya mean "YOU PPL"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

i loved when the leftover pregnant lady finally acknowledged that they kept offering her alcohol to drink

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Not sure if I hated Damsels in Distress or just wasn't in the mood for it. I like the film before it and like some of the film after it, so I don't think Noel Baumbach's gone off the Wes Anderson deep end. Megalyn Echikunwoke was incredibly beautiful. Thought for sure I spotted Lauren Ambrose from Six Feet Under in a classroom scene, but she's not listed in the credits, so I guess not. Still haven't seen Mistress America.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 November 2015 06:30 (eight years ago) link

? damsels in distress is a whit stillman movie

just sayin, Sunday, 15 November 2015 06:32 (eight years ago) link

Um, oops...the whole time I'm thinking, "This is the same guy that made The Squid & the Whale." And I almost made mention of the Metropolitan allusions.

I don't think it changes my reaction to the film, although it does help explain a lot.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 November 2015 06:42 (eight years ago) link

#NotAllGerwigsAreBaumbachs

Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 November 2015 07:55 (eight years ago) link

Although to be fair this thread at times served as a "Rolling Greta Gerwig" one.

Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 November 2015 07:57 (eight years ago) link

Interesting experiment, though...That's the first time I've ever sat through an entire film thinking it was someone other than the actual director. And of course it would have altered my reaction if I'd remembered it was Stillman. I don't know that I would have liked it any more, but I certainly would have had an easier time getting my head around it.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

dunno why I've never met a Benji

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I just watched this for the first time. I hated it. Maybe it's already aged poorly? I am now hate reading glowing reviews of this when it came out.

Yerac, Thursday, 10 May 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link

what does aging poorly mean?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

My issues with the movie seem to have already been mentioned in this thread (I just read through it). GG is charming but the character is unsubstantial and basically a really pleasant idiot at 27. I feel like I used to enjoy movies like this more. I liked the first couple of seasons of Girls, I still like Kicking and Screaming. Now it just all invokes Kendall Jenner giving the police a pepsi in the middle of a protest. I did enjoy the Paris scenes (this should've just been a longform commercial for Miu Miu or something) and Dean and Britta. I am also remembering a conversation I had with a well known music critic a long time ago when the show Felicity was still on air. I thought the show would've totally been his jam but he hated it because he had to see boring, overprivileged white NYU students every day so why would he want to also suffer through watching it on tv.

Yerac, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

I am now talking about this movie with A friend who is a huge Greta Gerwig fan. "So, I know how much you hate Fleabag, I was watching Frances Ha and I finally understood why you hate Fleabag so much." Her "You know I hated Frances Ha, right? With the heat of a thousand white hot suns!"

Yerac, Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

saw this for the first time last night and found it very affecting. was really mesmerized by gerwig and her awkward sincerity, the way she speaks to strangers as if they’ve been friends for years, her love for dancing even though she’s awful at it, that aimless trip to paris, how deeply she longs to be loved while simultaneously lacking any real interest in romance

k3vin k., Monday, 27 April 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

I like it more with each re-viewing. I always forget Dean Wareham's in it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

watched this again last night. what a perfect little movie — the goodness of frances is almost too much to bear

k3vin k., Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

I'm still crushing on her roommate.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Loved this movie

brimstead, Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

On Netflix again! Still love it.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:30 (two weeks ago) link

annual rewatch tonight. I just adore everyone in this movie so much

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 February 2024 04:45 (one week ago) link


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