Thread for talking about industrial explosions, accidents/craziness of the past

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Waco thread has brought up some interesting/scary past explosions such as

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_Disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepcon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion

Discussion here for more archival explosion scarytimes

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire
I was woken up by this explosion, despite living 50 miles away.

Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

probably worth talking about the recent arkansas pipeline spill here too although I have nothing particular to say about it

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

1985: Methane gas explosion at the Fairfax district in LA. Freaked out just about everyone in town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97wKS-wIH2k

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

probably worth talking about the recent arkansas pipeline spill here too although I have nothing particular to say about it

Was just listening to this: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2013/apr/18/arkansas-oil-spill/

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck yes the San Bruno explosion was really scary

I remember this one when I was living in Melbourne, because we had to have cold water showers for 2 weeks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esso_Longford_gas_explosion

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

great thread. anyone know any good books about individual industrial accidents? those kinds of things are my favorite (sadly)

veryupsetmom (harbl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://books.google.com/books/about/Love_Canal.html?id=fFMeAQAAIAAJ

am0n, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

is that where the love boat went

veryupsetmom (harbl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur - what happens when you drill for oil over an active salt mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_feWtkSucvE

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

surprised no one (either here or in the waco thread) has brought up the biggest industrial disaster of all time: the Bhopal Disaster at the Union Carbide plant in Bhopal, India, in 1984. it wasn't an explosion, but a leak of toxic chemicals, included methyl isocyanate. 500,000+ people were exposed, 170,000 were treated at hospitals. estimates of the death toll have ranged from about 4,000 (soon after the disaster) to 16,000 (counting those who died within 2 weeks, and from gas-related injuries in the decades since the incident). this doesn't even get into the thousands of people who suffered disabilities. it's tragic. even today, the chemicals from the incident are polluting their groundwater.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.eco-action.org/dt/gifs/carbad.jpeg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Love_Canal_protest.jpg

am0n, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

love canal dude otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Years ago there was an in-depth two part essay in the (late Shawn era?) New Yorker on the dynamite industry: three things I remember from it.

1: back in the day, lots of people used to keep dynamite in their garden shed -- well, it's basically just a cardboard (?) roll infused with nitroglycerine, and after a while the nitro will drip out of the roll into the ground below (concrete or whatever) and render it explosively lethal to any spark or crunch of grit, or dropped hammer

2: a regular feature of the early history of living a medium distance from dynamite and nitro-glycerine-factories was the story in the morning paper: "nitro factory explodes; building, workers blown to atoms" <-- "blown to atoms" intended to mean pretty much just that

3: the fumes given off by nitro very quickly produce an extremely powerful headache in all workers in such factories -- chances of angry carelessness surely heightened by this...

disclaimer: 25 years since i read the article, so some of it i may have misremembered or simplified -- but y'know, blimey

mark s, Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost crikey!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

dynamite+factory+blown+to+atoms

mark s, Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot abt Longford. in the scope of things the actual plant explosion was less of an impact than the chain reaction of impaired gas supply for so long. people whined like mfs. hate to think what'd happen if it'd been 2 weeks of no electricity.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Gërdec_explosions - an accident at a munitions depot in Albania results in the whole works exploding at once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO15dZIH_f8

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_t4yFHZQqc
Kolding Fireworks Factory Explosion. i think it went viral at one point, or maybe i saw it on a "outrageous disaster" clip show.

Sébastien, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty certain that YouTube made all those clip shows obsolete.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

i know, and yet they are still on, probably syndicated and distributed from brazil to timbuktu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlUSwdLBv4k

Sébastien, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

The largest non-nuclear explosion in history, from 13 km away:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjy6gTYqb3s

Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

so beautiful!

how's life, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

That's video of the Feb 1969 launch that exploded 12,000 m up, not the July explosion on the launch pad, which was so powerful it took 18 months to rebuild.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N1_(rocket)

Plasmon, Saturday, 27 April 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link

The Long March explosion in China is still o_O - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJ9ue6GKek

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Video from the Foton-M1 explosion super scary - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foton-M1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl9u-h_btBo

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

A Russian Proton-M crashed today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWv4ZZArP-g

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link

The company responsible (Russian Space Systems) is enormously corrupt. Two of its general directors were arrested for fraud and money laundering a couple of weeks ago. This is likely to be a fairly big scandal - not least because Russia will probably end up compensating Kazakhstan for dumping vast amounts of toxic fuel over the cosmodrome.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

Here's an oldie but goodie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyMbaZ9FVjA&list=FLluCym6NWsFzbQo3gJaEzlg&index=666

how's life, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link

Recent one from a different angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 07:50 (ten years ago) link

From the Lac Mégantic trail derailment/explosion

http://actualites.sympatico.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic-explosion.jpeg

silverfish, Sunday, 7 July 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

oh no! : (

how's life, Sunday, 7 July 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link

Horrifying video of the Lac Magentic fires by a man who had just left the bar near the epicentre of the explosion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRb3JHsiqfA

Plasmon, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:46 (ten years ago) link

Lac-Megantic, Quebec (CNN) -- Canadian authorities have found evidence that a criminal act may have led to a train crash in Lac-Megantic, Quebec, that killed at least 15 people, provincial police Capt. Michel Forget said Tuesday.

There have been many questions about the crash and explosion that wiped out a swath of the town 130 miles east of Montreal. As of Tuesday evening, 35 people were still missing, Forget said.

Authorities offered no further details about the case but said it was not caused by terrorism.

"I will not speculate on the elements that we have recovered," Forget told reporters.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm heading to Lac-Megantic on Monday. Oh man.

Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link

Whoa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:56 (ten years ago) link

I'm looking at the maps now. Jesus Christ, that thing happened right in the middle of town, more or less.

Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 05:29 (ten years ago) link

Correction: I am not going there next week, trip is off. Guys from Transport Canada have every single motel room in town. Man, I hope that place can recover.

Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

some incredible photos available here: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/07/freight-train-derails-and-explodes-in-lac-megantic-quebec/100548/

silverfish, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

There was that one time the U.S. government almost killed me.

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The Titan II Launch Complex 374-7 in Southside (Van Buren County), just north of Damascus (Van Buren and Faulkner counties), became the site of the most highly publicized disaster in the history of the Titan II missile program when its missile exploded within the launch duct on September 19, 1980. An Air Force airman was killed, and the complex was destroyed. The Titan II Missile Launch Complex 374-7 Site was listed in the National Register of Historic Places on February 18, 2000.

Complex 374-7 had already been the site of one significant accident on January 27, 1978, when an oxidizer leak sent a cloud of toxic fumes 3,000 feet long, 300 feet wide, and 100 feet high drifting across U.S. Highway 65. Civilians were evacuated from the area, and four people suffered some ill effects from contact with the vapors. The leak was quickly repaired.

On September 18, 1980, at about 6:30 p.m., an airman conducting maintenance on the Titan II missile dropped a wrench socket, which fell about eighty feet before hitting and piercing the skin on the rocket’s first-stage fuel tank, causing it to leak. The commander of the 308th Strategic Missile Wing quickly formed a potential-hazard team, and by 9:00 p.m., the Air Force personnel manning the site were evacuated. About one hour later, Air Force security police began evacuating nearby civilian residents as efforts continued to determine the status of the missile and the fuel leak.

Senior Airman David Livingston and Sergeant Jeff K. Kennedy entered the launch complex early on the morning of September 19 to get readings of airborne fuel concentrations, which they found to be at their maximum. At about 3:00 a.m., the two men returned to the surface to await further instructions. Just as they sat down on the concrete edge of the access portal, the missile exploded, blowing the 740-ton launch duct closure door 200 feet into the air and some 600 feet northeast of the launch complex. The W-53 nuclear warhead landed about 100 feet from the launch complex’s entry gate; its safety features operated correctly and prevented any loss of radioactive material. Kennedy, his leg broken, was blown 150 feet from the silo. Livingston lay amid the rubble of the launch duct for some time before security personnel located and evacuated him. Livingston died of his injuries that day. Twenty-one people were injured by the explosion or during rescue efforts.

http://www.501lifemag.com/images/stories/1010/titan.jpg

Oops.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

Were you evacuated?

how's life, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

xp to hl

We lived in a trailer about ten miles away from the site, as the crow flies, so we weren't part of the initial evacuation.

But when that damned thing exploded, it felt like our trailer jumped into the air. Mom at that point decided that if there were nuclear warheads flying around, we should go ahead and get moving voluntarily.

I was almost seven. I remember standing on our porch in the middle of the night, everything being completely still. It was in a very rural area, so hearing voices yelling from the highway was pretty scary.

In town, where I went to school, there was this strip mall parking lot that served as the de facto town square. And at 4 in the morning, it was packed with pick-up trucks pulled up next to each other, families in their pajamas sitting on tailgates, and everyone listening to the local AM station.

(I'd later work for that station. My future boss was on the air that night and gives a pretty good account of what it was like in this anniversary article. The AM station was a daytime-only station, meaning they had to sign off at sunset each night. When my boss turned it up to full power that night because fuckit armageddon is here, the signal reached all the way into Canada.)

We went about 60 miles to the west and spent most of the morning at a Shoney's. Even after hearing that the coast was clear and Bee Branch, Arkansas, wasn't the site of a nuclear winter, Mom still took us to meet my dad, who then took me and my sister to our grandparents in Memphis.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

My old boss is portrayed in that. Definitely a story that bears repeating over and over.

Here's my old post about it: Thread for talking about industrial explosions, accidents/craziness of the past

pplains, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

watched that last night on your rec. don't even know what to say, terrifying.

goole, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

Oh man, can't wait to watch this.

how's life, Friday, 27 January 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

am i wrong that the bulk of the footage of guys in the facility is reenacted? i usually hate that kind of thing but i thought it was effectively done here. the graphics of the inside of the anthill were great.

goole, Friday, 27 January 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

oh, i've read the eric schools set book - didn't realise there was a documentary based on it

the whole book is fucking terrifying (and even more so now that rick fucking perry is in charge of the usa's nuclear arsenal) but the forensic detail it goes into on the titan silo explosion def gave me a few sleepless nights

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 January 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

eric schlosser of course - damn autocorrect

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

The Eric Schools Set is one of my favorite mod bands.

how's life, Friday, 27 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah, of course you're right

i'll breathe a sigh of relief until jesse ventura takes on the role

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

I don't know where to put this, so I'm putting it here, just learned about it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog

sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

am i wrong that the bulk of the footage of guys in the facility is reenacted? i usually hate that kind of thing but i thought it was effectively done here. the graphics of the inside of the anthill were great.

― goole, Friday, January 27, 2017 1:46 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They did do a good job of blending reenactment scenes without letting it get in the way of the real archival footage. My only complaint is that Arkansas vehicles do not now nor in 1980 require front license plates.

Now, if you want to see some bad reenactments of Damascus, check out this one where they turn my old radio boss into one of the Hardy Boys:

http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/mysteries-at-the-museum/video/the-titan-ii-missile-crisis

pplains, Sunday, 5 February 2017 05:03 (seven years ago) link

Crumbling dam situation in Oroville, CA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/13/not-a-drill-thousands-evacuated-in-calif-as-oroville-dam-threatens-to-flood/?utm_term=.d45ab689432a

Not the same thing, but made me think of the St. Francis Dam disaster, which has not been mentioned yet on this thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam#Prelude_to_disaster

how's life, Monday, 13 February 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link

always assumed the st francis dam was the inspiration for the van der lip dam that hollis mulwray built and then collapsed in chinatown

sciatica, Monday, 13 February 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

Ah, it's been years since I've seen that movie. I knew it was about those water issues, but I'm fuzzy on the details.

how's life, Monday, 13 February 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

Not to pile on, I know you said you realize the 2 are different but for my own panic avoidance:

St Francis was a complete dam *collapse*; Oroville we're talking about an eroded spillway, but the dam is still in tact. Still a legit scary situation & a fuckton of water - thankfully situation has dialed down from last night - but i gotta mega underline that this was waaaaaaaay WAY removed from the horrors of St Francis

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 February 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, it just made me think of it.

how's life, Monday, 13 February 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

Here's where I really sound like an idiot, but

This weekend was the first time that I really understood what a spillway was. I've read about them before, but only formulated in my mind that they were a type of "runaway ramp" for the water or a temporary reservoir. I didn't "get" what they actually did though.

I think my problem stems from the fact that the dam in my hometown has the spillways on the other side of the dam itself. There's never been some sort of water chute off to the side used to relieve the lake elevation.

http://i.imgur.com/OmXyHlr.jpg

pplains, Monday, 13 February 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I would identify this as a dam, straight up, but still, in my mind's eye, I want to call it a levee.

http://i.imgur.com/nFNQZ20.jpg

pplains, Monday, 13 February 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUowiNeF_Rw

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 06:42 (seven years ago) link

Whoa.

how's life, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 13:14 (seven years ago) link

Epic

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDuHxwD5R4

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

The commentary makes it a candidate for the Real England thread but Buncefield has already been mentioned here upthread.
Buncefield fire: 'Idiotic' teens capture fuel depot blaze on film

Chequers Plays Pop (snoball), Sunday, 16 December 2018 11:50 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

A truck full of ammonium nitrate exploded near Camden, Ark., on Wednesday. Only one person, the driver, was killed.

Here's the road from Google Street View:

https://i.imgur.com/SXmioE2.jpg

Now here's the road as it looked yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/c8YIP5E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T0ASbFJ.jpg

Crazy part is this: Camden's way down south of here, closer to Louisiana than anything I see on a regular basis. Despite that, my NextDoor app is filled with posts asking "What the hell was that noise?" Even I heard thunder even though in hindsight, it hasn't rained here like that since last week.

It wasn't thunder. It was the goddammed fertilizer truck!

NEW: A deadly chemical truck explosion in Camden was heard nearly 100 miles away. @KATVToddYak explains how the sound waves traveled that far: https://t.co/eLZ3t2FqwM | #arnews pic.twitter.com/6EI79pze6q

— KATV News (@KATVNews) March 27, 2019

Some spooky shit!

https://i.imgur.com/C9rKKjJ.jpg

pplains, Friday, 29 March 2019 02:38 (five years ago) link

holy fuck

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2019 02:43 (five years ago) link

I haven't ever been able to really picture how a moving truck could take out the Murrah Building. Maybe it's for a lack of trying. (I don't really want to picture it.)

But those pix help put it into a little perspective.

pplains, Friday, 29 March 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link

otm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2019 03:01 (five years ago) link

umm yeah. goddamn.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 11:21 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

My favourite is Mariner 1 crashing shortly after launch due to a single character error in a software program.

― Meine Damen und Herren, ein grosse sh*tstorm! (snoball), Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Copyediting: SRS BZNESS.

(Thanks for the name; I remembered the story loosely and have been known to cite it when explaining the importance of proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar.)

― Word Salad Username (j.lu), Friday, 12 July 2013 16:46 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LJz-TWV3so

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Video of spectacular shockwave from explosion at military unit in Krasnoyarsk Krai of Russia pic.twitter.com/0yeg3hIb5F

— Liveuamap (@Liveuamap) August 5, 2019

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 5 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Yipes

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 August 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

Although technically off topic for this thread since that appears to be ongoing

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

fair

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 5 August 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

I'll take it.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 5 August 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Also that fertilizer truck blast...damn. I guess if a truck can be heard 100 miles away it makes it much more believable that Krakatoa could be heard blowing its top 3000 miles away across the expanse of the Indian ocean.

omar little, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

"The black stuff floating, don't touch it," said Troy Monk, who is the director of health safety and security for the TPC Group.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RFDKpwdbEA

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

Knew I recognized the narrator from somewhere.

pplains, Friday, 20 December 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Definitely an older one: pier collapse at 1883 church picnic in Baltimore kills 63.

https://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2010/05/the-tivoli-maryland-pier-collapse-july.html

☮️ (peace, man), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Aerial footage of Exeter bomb exploding

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 11:25 (three years ago) link

Welp, I'd hate to be going to work in Dresden next week.

pplains, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

gerry having the last laugh there

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Extruded aluminum factory goes from zero to full incineration in just over 30 seconds (video on Reddit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/v48rnt/extrudedaluminium_factory_jun_22/

Basically, if there's an industrial fire in an enclosed space - GTFO immediately.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 June 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

New USCSB video on the 2019 Philadelphia refinery explosion. Super-informative and recommended if you bookmark this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8qXTh6tTY

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 October 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

That is the sweetest YouTube channel

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Friday, 28 October 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

TIL what a dead leg is and why popcorn polymer is incredibly dangerous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3BFXpBcjc

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 August 2023 02:31 (eight months ago) link

O_O

holy shit

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 August 2023 03:09 (eight months ago) link


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