the fallout, however, is for EVERYONE
― You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
is it about this thing: https://www.facebook.com/doug.henwood/posts/10151766236956475
https://www.facebook.com/doug.henwood/posts/10151768678246475
― max, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
I was wondering if it might be, couldn't tell for sure
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
can't believe there are academics having internecine turf wars
― Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
which, like, sorry, doug henwood, stop being such a fucking priss
― max, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
idk, given situations like the fraudulent goodmenproject dude (name forgotten) who had a psychotic break on twitter, and the anarchist darling who ratted out his friends and is now a tea party darling (name also forgotten) i'm all in favor of seeing scum-o fake leftists exposed. if that is in fact what she's gonna do.
xp ohhh that thing. i found that diagram mostly incomprehensible. can you more clearly delineate which is the no and yes parts? like, top/bottom? l-r? come on now, i thought the left was better at graphic design.
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
so this rant was generated by a slam book, is my takeaway here
lolololololololololololololol
― You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
no matter how old you are, you will always be thirteen
hugo schwyzer is the first one
― max, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
would be cool if the "yes" and "no" are intentionally incomprehensible do u c etc
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
my basic assumption is that political activity of any kind is an intense social competition among allies who are borderline. on the left the terms of competition are who is the most down with the mostest struggle.
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
"my other is more othered than your other"
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
not to denigrate the mentally ill or anything... but man, i love politics intensely, but i look at that life, and it's like, are you kidding me, who would get into that.
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
amongst left theorists it's not so much a competition to out-left people as a weirdly high number of very thin skins i think
― Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Don't get the point of the Yes/No exercise. So it's an unedited splurge of every suggestion from a brainstorm which, without explanation, slots people who annoyed one person in the group alongside rapists and dictators? That was sure to end well.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
combining high stakes and low odds of academic careers, the endemic intellectual insecurity of that milieu, garden variety status seeking and "peacocking," AND radical political agendas is bound to create a near permanent situation of perceived crisis and witchhunting.
i think, also, as an academic myself i can speak to a certain disposition most of us have for, like, getting the whole world into your head (and under your thumb).
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
"academic dudebro marxists" is kind of an amazing (accidental?) phrase
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
Anger spreads faster and more broadly than joy, say computer scientists who have analysed sentiment on the Chinese Twitter-like service Weibo.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519306/most-influential-emotions-on-social-networks-revealed/
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/yW8VfqwSfUc
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
linked in brief because the comments are, indeed, key
Without being able to follow the whole string down this rabbit hole, wow, that guy is a dick.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
doug henwood?
― flopson, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
man, poor stalin, dude is hated on by just about everyone but now it's official, he's a "no"
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
For the “NO” list, I asked people to send me the names of “cis men, living and dead, who make [your] blood boil: misogynists, paternalists, abusers, rapists, rape apologists … people whom you find toxic, people whose physical presence or intellectual influence in left spaces … hinders or forecloses our collective possibilities for transformation, liberation, and making total destroy.”
search for "making total destroy"
About 26,300 results (0.31 seconds)
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
that's a new phrase to me
lonely dudebro marxist just thinking baout making total destroy
― having nunavut (seandalai), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
lol the results are some youtubes of guys playing slap bass and then this:
http://anoki.wikispaces.com/Make+Total+Destroy
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
i think i might have found today's rabbit hole, thanks everyone.
this guy is mentioned in those facebook comments somewhere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Avakian
"He has continually published writings on Marxism and Maoism for over 35 years and is viewed by many inside and outside the communist movement as the foremost Maoist revolutionary in the U.S.[citation needed]"
lollll
― goole, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
he's a big ol' no fyi
― goole, Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude that introduced me to this phrase (variant 'make total destroy') insisted it is v popular in far left circles but he's the only person i've ever heard use it
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
is it like a metal thing or a lolcat thing?
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
lol that 'yes/no' list is such an on the nose indicator of the amount of maturity involved in these kinds of discourse
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
I can't tell if the divide on that yes/no image is supposed to be top/bottom or left/right, the design is just so bad
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:04 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
comes out of like black metal i guess
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
ty for 'brocialism' btw.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
I finally read the list and LOL
"People that I hate and need to go get fucked! Chairman Mao, Charlemagne, Keith Richards, My asshole brother AND his girlfriend, Pol Pol Pot, Orville Redenbocker, Charlton Heston, Louis XVI, Chairopractors..."
― All kinds of heinous things, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
do ppl know 'manarchism/manarchists' broadly
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
guys you are totally brosilencing those list makers.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
Yes, I am familiar with 'manarchy' etc.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Is this the YMCAOr is this the PUAOr is this the MRA etc
― I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my asp (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
"Pol Pol Pot" sounds like the punchline to a grim knock-knock joke.
― having nunavut (seandalai), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
The exercise that started this is very poorly thought out, but jesus christ that facebook thread. If there is too much #whitemantears in one place, do they all drown?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
doug henwood's fb feed is just the greatest source of leftist academic intrigue and squabbling ever
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
http://gawker.com/the-privilege-tournament-1377171054
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Shimmy shimmy pol pol pot,shimmy shimmy pot
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
pretty funny, gawker
― Mordy , Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
i think my favorite part of the YES/NO thing is putting "Pol Pot" just above "Macktivists"
― fresh (crüt), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
the gawker thing is essentially the poll i wanted to start on ilx but was too afraid of getting fp'd into oblivion
― Mordy , Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
hay fever, but real bad
― j., Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link