Origins of the faux-naif bloggy voice?

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There's this voice that blogs have. And it's ironic and chatty, but also, like describes things very simply. And it describes things sort of matter-of-factly, but also with this tone like 'I am describing this thing which is hilarious in this very straightforward way' and also this tone where it describes things that we all know as though we did not all know them. And this works especially well for commentary on culture or politics, because it makes one feel like an innocent, marveling at the crazy people. Or sometimes it is in the voice of an innocent who is too innocent, and mocking their faux-naif shock at something that is not shocking, because maybe we always expect better, but they shouldn't, and their shock is cynical, as opposed to ours, which is a calculated affectation, but meant sincerely.

This voice in blogs -- where does it come from? I feel like we were throwing around the term faux-naif on ilx and sort of developing this tone way early on. But it probably got picked up here from elsewhere. Suck already had it, sometimes, maybe?

So not only where did it come from, but how did it emerge to such prominence? And what other 'default affects' are there in the journo-blog world these days? Like, if someone is developing a style, what are the various models they'd emulate?

s.clover, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:00 (six years ago) link

nabisco?

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:09 (six years ago) link

; )

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:09 (six years ago) link

乒乓 otm

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:10 (six years ago) link

but forrealz, http://i.imgur.com/jL8RiIh.jpg

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:11 (six years ago) link

; )

― 乒乓


Is this supposed to mean Ned?

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:11 (six years ago) link

salinger feels somewhat different, but vonnegut and wallace i buy. also, probably eggers. Heartbreaking... was in 2000 and it very much had that voice.

s.clover, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:19 (six years ago) link

eggers is literal vermin who needs to be exterminated

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:20 (six years ago) link

salinger feels somewhat different,
Yeah, didn't totally mean it as a serious answer, sorry, just wanted to see that cover image in the First Post.

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:21 (six years ago) link

eggers idk, i feel like his whole deal was making things way more complicated than they had to be, like his whole approach was college junior w/ a few philosophy and lit crit classes under his belt attempts to explain the world

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:22 (six years ago) link

Thought for a second that was
http://media.salon.com/2012/04/segel_rectangle.jpg

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:26 (six years ago) link

looks like segel starcrossed w/jaymc

слабоумие и отвага (cozen), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:28 (six years ago) link

David Shapiro

buzza, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:29 (six years ago) link

eggers is literal vermin who needs to be exterminated

― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:20 (14 minutes ago) Permalink

:)

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 20:35 (six years ago) link

And This American Life, updating the performance-art detached/bemused Spalding Gray and Laurie Anderson.

your fretless ways (Eazy), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 21:53 (six years ago) link

there was some article that said it was DFW

Smif-N-Westurns (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:01 (six years ago) link

eggers is literal vermin who needs to be exterminated

he should be spared for publishing The Instructions if nothing else.

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:02 (six years ago) link

vonnegut otm

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:06 (six years ago) link

the mcsweeney's tone has had an influence i guess but otherwise dave eggers is a meaningless person

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:08 (six years ago) link

i feel like ilx is always in danger of succumbing to this tone

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:14 (six years ago) link

Totally!

Creames Fartpoop, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:21 (six years ago) link

tumblr is the apotheosis of this, it is literally impossible to distinguish between any of the really cool kids on there because their writing style is all identical

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:23 (six years ago) link

i actually really liked heartbreaking work of... when i read it but i was about 13/14 at the time and who knows how annoying it would be if i read it now, i saw him giving a reading at the time when he was promoting you shall know our velocity and i spoke to him afterwards and he was really nice to me and my friend who was also like 14 and spent ages talking to me and i think he is probably a totally nice guy based on this but i have never read anything by him again and never actually think about him.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 01:00 (six years ago) link

ur sentences are often very long

Mordy, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 01:01 (six years ago) link

what an interesting question

im not really knowledgeable enough about "internet writing" in general to really have an idea of its origins, but i wonder if the function is possibility in some respects to too serve two simultaneous but yet opposed needs. it's flexible enough to genuinely provide the info on something while reflecting the absurdity of providing info on something so inconsequential/crazy/whatever. if you don't strike this tone just right then you're either doing academic criticism (which makes you vulnerable) or naively embracing something to the risk of being the object of fun yourself.

it's like having a point of view on something without actually, you know, having a point of view.

ryan, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 03:57 (six years ago) link

^^ this makes a lot of sense to me - it's finding the appropriate distance between a subject & the writer, right, in all sorts of ways. & it fits intothe whole generation-kneejerk-irony thing too, right. something that's often annoying about reading cultural comments on blogs is the showy tone of commenters, slipping into some kind of lazily superior expert register to project knowledge. & this seems like a similar thing, writing with enough of a sort of faux-patient/bemused tone as to separate oneself from the content you're generously going to unpack for everybody.

schlump, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:28 (six years ago) link

Of the twenty-some young men who were waiting at the station for their dates to arrive on the ten-fifty-two, no more than six or seven were out on the cold, open platform. The rest were standing around in hatless, smoky little groups of twos and threes and fours inside the heated waiting room, talking in voices that, almost without exception, sounded collegiately dogmatic, as though each young man, in his strident, conversational turn, was clearing up, once and for all, some highly controversial issue, one that the outside, non-matriculating world had been bungling, provocatively or not, for centuries.

schlump, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:31 (six years ago) link

can someone link to some examples here

C: (crüt), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:32 (six years ago) link

It's been too long since I've read Franny & Zooey for me to tell whether or not yr taking the piss for sure

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:36 (six years ago) link

the new york times blamed david foster wallace, mostly, kinda

ò_ó, ó_ò, õ_o (Lamp), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:41 (six years ago) link

That little juke where the writer affects to hesitate over their next revelation because, well, it gives the next words a bit of artificial acceleration after the pause and alters the cadence and emphasis a bit, is most certainly an affectation, but it works, in a limited way and it is dead easy to use. It is just tiresome after a few exposures, as are most affectations.

Aimless, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:52 (six years ago) link

u tuomas level faux naive posters in their own boar

buzza, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:08 (six years ago) link

it's funny the internet both hyper connected (anything you write is implicitly in conversation with and exposed to observation from literally every point of view) and hyper-isolated and specialized. i wonder if this type of writing exemplifies that dilemma because you could certainly say it's a "coded" language that addresses a certain context and thus a certain audience while at the exact same time knows it's "out there" in the wild west of the internet.

this is writing that could be seen in direct opposition to actually "naive" writing on the internet--the kind of stuff that, when it's exposed to discussion or observation at these wider levels, sorta surprises the author and catches them off guard, like they didn't know they were writing "on the internet."

ryan, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:19 (six years ago) link

eggers' twee style is certainly passe, but i think he should be judged on more than just heartbreaking. his work has become steadily more sober since that one. seems like he's aging gracefully imo. his charity/humanitarian work is also pretty impressive, i think, even though the branding for 826 is his verbose-twee style at its most insufferable.

on the topic of internet writing: i don't much care for the faux-naive affectations (although i have been guilty of using them myself) but can't be bothered to get upset over it. style fads happen. the goony ilx style, fwiw, can be p aggravating itself.

i don't think it's the goal to write without affectation, either. i'm sure there's some kind of civilized standard of writing restraint. i don't think it's necessarily a gold standard of perfectly plain writing.

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:30 (six years ago) link

the ", well," thing just reads to me really unconfident -- the same (possibly totally unfair, cuz it almost alone prevents me from really liking philip roth and he's a big deal right) reaction i have to italics, which seem to me like something you use when you doubt the ability of the structure of your sentence to itself suggest emphasis and focus. (plus with italics you're not suggesting at all: you're insisting. makes writing much less collaborative + thus less empathetic + thus less useful.) when you put in the "well" gulp it's like either you don't think you made your lil joke clearly enough or you don't think i'm smart enough to notice it without a highlighter.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:30 (six years ago) link

it has rhythmic uses too obv but here's an idea: write a sentence that doesn't need to be artificially enrhythmed

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:31 (six years ago) link

also, i used to have a penpal who was into white-people lit-internet and would put lots of things in parentheses. pretty sure that's another hallmark of the faux-naif bloggy voice.

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:33 (six years ago) link

salinger comes from the benchley/perelman '30s new yorker wiseass tradition -- very different imo.

dfw feels like the right answer, but where did he get it from? delillo maybe?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 06:26 (six years ago) link

discourse analysis to thread http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_analysis

also i believe that we are talking about several different things here

* "faux naif bloggy voice" -- no idea what this is
* hedging -- the "well", the hiccups described above are, imo, classic hedges
* using parentheses to add information that is not necessary but that the writer wants to share (sometimes background info, sometimes an aside)
* the chronic informalization/increasingly conversational nature of journalistic writing (this is the one that burns me the most -- writing where the writer's voice is so strong that it overpowers the material being written about)
* whatever else y'all have in your minds that you are categorizing as this "white people lit internet" (?)

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:34 (six years ago) link

it has rhythmic uses too obv but here's an idea: write a sentence that doesn't need to be artificially enrhythmed

― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:31 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

never

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:46 (six years ago) link

also i swaer to you all i never read any nyt article abt this

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:46 (six years ago) link

*gazes upon that article for the first time*

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:51 (six years ago) link

i don't mean this wholely critical, and i'm sort of loath to cite examples, b/c they're examples of writing I like if anything. part of why i associate an element of this with ilx is because its a very powerful critical stance to take. you are confronted with some densely constructed argument about some rock thing or why certain music is not good, or the nature of aesthetics more broadly, etc. and answer "but britney is great! everybody loves to dance to toxic!" and that's very hard to respond to.

there's a structure and a framing to how its used now, especially in regards to broader political/social commentary that feels especially new, but deploying exactly that sort of tactic.

on the other hand, i've also found its terribly abrasive to people that aren't used to it. like i sent a column on some economy-related commentary stuff to a friend and he was like 'why is this promoting anti-intellectualism and making fun of people being serious', when of course it was poking fun at pseudo-intellectualism and seriousness as a substitute for thought, etc., but because he was outside of the circle of people who know how to decipher this sort of writing, the layers of meaning just collapsed.

s.clover, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:00 (six years ago) link

i think that part of this style of writing seems to come from recent college grads from liberal arts colleges who majored in the humanities - feels like that, anyway - idk, coming into your own during the 20s and having had to 'think critically' (what a chestnut!) about ~things~ and ~life~ makes you sort of realize just how insane and received everything we take for granted that we 'know' is - and once you position yourself outside of the morass of received knowledge - not even knowledge, received experience, intuition, worldview - ! and you adopt this tone of "i am just trying to think ~rationally~ about these interesting phenomena. and of course that's really kind of disingenuous, because what is rationality, even, at some subterranean level you are just doing a seinfeld 'what's the DeAL with women's advertising! lobsters! sports!' critique.

i think the crucial move that these writers make is inviting you to just step over and into their shoes, just for a moment, see through my eyes, the eyes of a naif! and let me guide you through the ways that this doesn't make sense. that move of empathy, of bridging a gap between the writer and the reader. which of course is its own horseshit because jeez the thing most unknowable is precisely that which lies outside your own empirical experience and which is only bruised at by reading somebody else's words. your own words, even! solipsism, the noumenal and the phenomenal.

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:07 (six years ago) link

i came across this site earlier today with really annoying prose: http://fuckyeahculturalappropriation.tumblr.com/

the tone is very much "everyday dude talkin' bout shit" but with occasional academic terms thrown in to indicate a casual greater knowledge of the subject. but what i found interesting is that they use question marks a lot to indicate a high rising intonation? never seen that before, but i don't read a lot of overearnest social justice tumblrs.

chilli, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:22 (five years ago) link

I had to stop reading a blog I quite liked because of its random exclamation points. I guess to indicate eagerness!

jmm, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:29 (five years ago) link

i forget the name of it but isn't that fuck yeah cultural appropriation thing basically copycatting another similar blog that answers questions about racism?

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:31 (five years ago) link

a+ hate reading - thx xzp

Mordy , Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:31 (five years ago) link

that tumblr is unreadable

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:33 (five years ago) link

its a stream of consciousness voice, which is fine, but its also actually actual stream of consciousness which is less fine.

archness, knowing, emulation, stylistic layers of internalized quotation -- i'm all for these things, and not just in the service of irony. but these things take lots and lots of work.

on the whole tho, i'm all for more expressive language, more misspellings with nuances and creative punctuation. but i'm not for saying these are about 'emulating' speech -- they're ways that text can express differently than speech can.

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:39 (five years ago) link

i mean it's like maybe because racism?

Mordy , Wednesday, 4 December 2013 04:41 (five years ago) link

xpost to etc—the one person i have seen type like that twitterer was someone arguing abt feminism/an art show on facebook and iirc they did explicitly frame their writing style as a form of or rooted in some kind of resistance. (also, do u mean cruising utopia or is there some other book?)

― 1staethyr, Wednesday, December 4, 2013 3:27 AM (2 days ago)

Yeah, Cruising Utopia; had my wires crossed. RIP José Esteban Muñoz :/

etc, Friday, 6 December 2013 21:31 (five years ago) link

Because the night.

dow, Friday, 6 December 2013 22:09 (five years ago) link

i studied w/ munoz in grad school RIP :(

Mordy , Friday, 6 December 2013 22:29 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=9494

<3

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 22:28 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

matt levine c/d

just sayin, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:41 (four years ago) link

one year passes...
one month passes...

a very reasonable take on the oregon clowns that opens five consecutive paragraphs with

Still, hang on.
All together now:
Here is the thing.
This, my good buddies,
Here is what this is:

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 00:54 (three years ago) link

Lol

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 01:07 (three years ago) link

ironically it never explains what a jamoke really is in case saying jamoke a bunch makes you start feeling unsure you really know

j., Tuesday, 5 January 2016 01:10 (three years ago) link

i blame bill simmons for this one

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 01:21 (three years ago) link

yah, the folksy sportswriter is a different but related tradition.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16929/16929-h/16929-h.htm

big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 04:01 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

can someone help me pin down why i can’t stand the tone of online writing (fka blogging) in 2019?

everything i read seems longwinded, didactic, lots of unnecessary exposition, humourless, lawerly argumentation

i don’t think it’s faux naif blogger voice anymore (can’t remember if it was a good thing or bad... i do miss the gawker voice)

flopson, Friday, 7 June 2019 04:14 (three months ago) link

examples?

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 7 June 2019 05:02 (three months ago) link

lol imagine 'reading' in 2019 when you could be neurally juuling in augmented reality

lumen (esby), Friday, 7 June 2019 05:27 (three months ago) link

i imagine it. sometimes it's good! sometimes not. (continues)

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 June 2019 07:07 (three months ago) link

i either write like that or write like fred rogers when i'm trying to discuss an issue

i go into dry and humorless mode mostly so i can avoid invective, which there's far too much of about. my sense of humor is often cruel. also, frankly, i seldom have the opportunity to try and make a reasoned argument, because there's seldom a fucking point to doing so these days. so it's a good way of keeping in practice so that my already dodgy reasoning skills don't atrophy completely.

i prefer writing in fred rogers mode but it's hard.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:16 (three months ago) link

pa

can someone help me pin down why i can’t stand the tone of online writing (fka blogging) in 2019?

everything i read seems longwinded, didactic, lots of unnecessary exposition, humourless, lawerly argumentation

i don’t think it’s faux naif blogger voice anymore (can’t remember if it was a good thing or bad... i do miss the gawker voice)
can someone help me pin down why i can’t stand the tone of online writing (fka blogging) in 2019?

everything i read seems longwinded, didactic, lots of unnecessary exposition, humourless, lawerly argumentation

i don’t think it’s faux naif blogger voice anymore (can’t remember if it was a good thing or bad... i do miss the gawker voice)


i’m not sure this is what you mean flopson, but this article nails a sort of hectoring, ‘splaining argumentation that’s really tiring.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 07:34 (three months ago) link

lol imagine 'reading' in 2019 when you could be neurally juuling in augmented reality

― lumen (esby), Friday, June 7, 2019 1:27 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly. the faux naif voice ultimately was a literary technique, even if it was one you hated. it was about leaving space for uncertainty, and in this way reflecting the experience of thinking rather than just instantly jumping into "takes."

the internet moves too fast now, and is too paranoid and full of ill will, for this kind of approach to survive. "buckle up twitter" maybe has some residual cutesy quality but it's still just full on attack mode.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 10:27 (three months ago) link

i mean, sometimes what was called the "faux naif bloggy voice" was used for being passive aggressive, but i think setting yourself up as an innocent contemplating the wild west of american culture is like a definitely literary trope. you can probably trace it to the "new journalists" of the 60s

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 10:33 (three months ago) link

The blustery faux-nihilism of ‘buckle up twitter’ and the bloggy faux-naïf voice of yore both strike me as two sides of the same coin - techniques by insecure writers of performing candor and ‘realness’ while actually keeping the reader at a safe distance

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 13:53 (three months ago) link

otm except i wouldn't say they're thinking about the reader at all, just the impenetrability of their own performance

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 13:58 (three months ago) link

I mean, it’s hard to wade into the online world without some kind of rhetorical armor.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:10 (three months ago) link

I might be mixing up the faux naif voice with alt lit and the earlier new sincerity. The kind of like 2008 jezebel voice was insider-y and maybe a little different.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:15 (three months ago) link

Faux naif in my sense was schtick but a less abrasive one than like the screaming style of 2019 social media

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:16 (three months ago) link

OeO/BN otm

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:15 (three months ago) link

what are we calling ‘buckle up twitter’?

flopson, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:58 (three months ago) link

what is "buckle up twitter"?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:01 (three months ago) link

A reference to the piece Fizzles posted. It's worth reading.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:06 (three months ago) link

Yeah the writer of that piece uses it as shorthand for that abrasive hyper-cynical takedown tone, as in "buckle up twitter, I'm about to explain to you why Ulysses is a literal pile of used toilet paper!"

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:16 (three months ago) link

Strident and incurious and sarcasric and enraged

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:20 (three months ago) link

otm except i wouldn't say they're thinking about the reader at all, just the impenetrability of their own performance


oeo and brad both otm, but i wonder if there’s also a bit of getting “hidden insight” for free (ie without effort just by being shouted at: now i know stuff that will enable me to be one up on my *own* particular army of toy straw men because that’s how the tone made *me* feel).

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:22 (three months ago) link

Yeah I think that among the reasons why that tone is so insidious and popular is there’s a way that it weirdly flatters the readers ego bc it somehow makes you feel not like you are being shouted at, but that you are shouting along with the writer at some other third party

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:30 (three months ago) link

still don’t know if this is what flopson meant of if he was referring to the type of blogvoice that i used to write in because i can’t tell jokes and just want to be dull about what i think is right on x topic.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:33 (three months ago) link

xpost yeah you're very very quickly on the inside of a knowledge-wielding club, with a model for how to wield it. may be just an innate side effect of wider and more rapid access to information --- expertise still takes a long time and a lot of engagement, while something slightly longer than a sound bite (but short enough to be memetic in the original sense) can be launched into the world with considerable ease.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:35 (three months ago) link

it’s hard to wade into the online world without some kind of rhetorical armor

otm. but one's rhetorical strategy can be as simple as Trump's sixth grade taunting, accompanied by an invincible resistance to shame or self-doubt.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:43 (three months ago) link

Twitticisms wear me out.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:53 (three months ago) link

that "buckle up twitter" piece was so great to read, that style of writing is like nails on a chalkboard for me

i do enjoy twitter threads when they're written by actual historians, scientists, et al, in a calm and non-strident and thoughtful way

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:58 (three months ago) link

yeah it feels like there’s a tonal overlap between say sarah taber’s undoubtedly informed and informatively detailed agri-science threads and this style.

feels like people will imitate that style even where hard knowledge isn’t present. that does suggest a problem with the original tone. i note in that sarah taber thread: “Notice anything in common there?” and “That's why we call these areas "scrub".” both of which have that manner.

I think the “that’s why we” is significant. she means agri-science academics and professional agriculture inspectors. but the implication is “do you want to be a member of our knowledge club?”. that can be easily imitated without any knowledge.

the whole tone is one of “schooling” people.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:20 (three months ago) link

What I also took away from that piece was the author’s dad seemed cool

omar little, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:25 (three months ago) link

Those types of “schooling” Twitter threads as a means of replacing a true deep dive into a new area of knowledge are to me the equivalent of those dumb fast speed, “camera pointed down” cooking videos of garbage food hacks for millennials I always see on Facebook and elsewhere.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:27 (three months ago) link

i feel like a lot of people just aren't very good writers or particularly intelligent, and they don't compensate for these problems by doing a bunch of research. In the past, most of these people did not give the public the "benefit" of their voices. So, in a way, it's good, that more people have an outlet and can be heard. However, it's also like having to listen to the music of everyone who wants to be in a band.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:37 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

buckle up seems to be an extension of vox-explainer voice. imho its a "we are the voice of facts and reason" sorta reaction to the current administration w/ a smug "serious people" vibe.

Hakim Bae's TMZ (s.clover), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:46 (two months ago) link


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