'...and DON'T *bleep* IT UP!' -- the RuPaul's Drag Race thread

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About time for this, I figure! Fifth season premiered yesterday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

condragulations

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Quite right!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:08 (five years ago) Permalink

this show is kind of fascinating in a "gender is all performance!" way - everyone congratulating each other (incl the judges) on how well they achieve some kind of archetypal female-ness

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (five years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Okay come on, I KNOW I'm not the only person on here watching.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I promise to start now.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Marilyn Monroe should've been in the bottom. She didn't do anything.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was an epic flop. I like Ivy well enough but that made me go "Whuh?"

Jinkx, Alaska and Roxy were the best overall, but Jinkx just owned it period.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I like Ivy too and I think she was lucky she didn't have to lipsynch against Lineysha. I didn't expect her to do so well (but her Celia Cruz was unforgiveable).

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Deep clusterfuck, that. Also what WAS Detox thinking.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

um hi I just started watching season 5 online having never watched and omg I'm hooked

I'll be caught up in no time :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't forget to watch Untucked, an essential part of this show!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I just figured that out...gotta love these bitchy girls. MORE drag homework? *twists arm*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Very good. Join us, join us...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Shanté, you stay!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Season 2 still the best so far, I think.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I just binge-rewatched season 3 over the weekend on Netflix and I might have to vote for that one. Then again I just like Raja a hell of a lot, so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes for Raja and Manila. But the rest, not so interesting. Yara-Sophia maybe...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

It actually came down to the right final four I thought, Alexis was a character in her own right. But yeah Yara (Xara?) was next level.

I still haven't seen season four! For some stupid reason it's not on Netflix -- it was for about two seconds and then went away again without explanation. (Already know who won, obv., but I'd like to see it happen.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait what!! Can't you watch it on logo online or something? We can't in Canada but I thought you could in the US.
Season 4 was pretty good, although they tried to create too much unnecessary drama. But I'll let you see by yourself.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

You can see the Untucked episodes from season 4 on the site but not the main shows. Since you can buy all the shows from iTunes maybe they want to go that route? Who knows!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Makes sense. If RuPaul had a dollar everytime she mentions iTunes...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey, house payments are probably up there. (And I don't begrudge Ru ANY success and trappings.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't either. At least she's very upfront and funny about it.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Fun fact we learned during the All Stars season: Jujubee's real name is actually Airplane!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Hahaha yeah I remember thinking "Wait, what?"

I also love that Manila's real name is the none-more-Minnesota Karl Westerberg.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Lol wow

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Almost caught up on S5 now yay!

Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS

I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:15 (five years ago) Permalink

that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it.
I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 05:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site

http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/

Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).

https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:20 (five years ago) Permalink

This is better than what they showed on the show:

http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:59 (five years ago) Permalink

My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:

1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage
2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing
3. Tatianna as Britney Spears
4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie
5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.

Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Hottest out of drag:

S1: Jade
S2: Tyra, Raven
S3: Raja, Carmen, Mariah
S4: PhiPhi, Lashauwn
S5: Lineysha

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

xp otm

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I will say though despite finding Aquaria super bland and devoid of charisma and largely uniqueness, I was genuinely surprised at how great her lip syncs were. She had a lot of subtle touches that felt really smart.

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 July 2018 12:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah same

This season was a lot of charismatic queens with no follow-through, and some extremely talented queens burdened with profound unlikeability

I didn't like Miz Cracker at first but she ended up being one of my all-time faves

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 2 July 2018 12:26 (two months ago) Permalink

the best thing about that finalé was Gus Kenworthy.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:27 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^^ a pretty unapologetic takedown

RuPaul’s racial philosophies, which include a classic white American “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” maxim and a generational distance from the queens who compete on her show, are indicative of her deep-seated respectability politics. The “advice” she offered the Vixen was just a stone’s throw away from the notorious language once espoused by Bill Cosby, or Charles Barkley, or Ronald Reagan — exhortations to black personal responsibility and rules of behavioral comportment; it implied that the Vixen, in her loudmouthed navigation of the world and her insistence on addressing racism, is lacking in self-discipline and respectability.

Too often the burden of civility and amenity falls on the backs of those enduring oppression. For RuPaul to demand that the Vixen engage in a culture of silence, to expect her to choreograph her anger in order to appear less dissonant, less threatening, is to rob her of her voice for the sake of disproving the white myth of black inferiority. There is no “right” way to comport oneself in the midst of inequity. Such archaic criticisms directly contradict everything the art of drag itself stands for. When has protest art, or protest at large, ever been courtly?

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 July 2018 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

(Also floats the idea of giving Ru the axe and replacing her with Asia. Like that'll happen.)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 July 2018 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

One thing I've seen repeated in all these pieces is that RuPaul is promoting a culture of silence and I think that's totally misreported just to fit their narratives. When Ru said that the Vixen could chose to not say anything, she was clearly refering to the drama between Aquaria and Miz Cracker. The Vixen didn't have to bring it up, but she decided to stir the pot.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I could accept that. I can not accept Ru's reaction to Asia in the reunion, though. Ru tends to conflate two seemingly similar but very different narratives of being a star and being the star of your own life. I can see the first of those two requiring you to casually throw people in your life away if they do not serve your needs, but I'm damned if I think it makes sense for the latter of those narratives.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Mm. And good piece there too.

Now that Drag Race Thailand is on WOWPresents Plus I may take the dive there -- but in a little bit, it was almost six months of DR stuff in general this year and I need a breather.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh I agree, Asia was completely right. A lot of Ru's reactions were problematic and made me cringe. (x-post)

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I just got around to reading this in the print paper: Jinkx Monsoon on RuPaul's influence on her life and career:

https://www.thestranger.com/queer-issue-2018/2018/06/20/27819501/how-rupaul-changed-my-life

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:11 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Willam and Alaska have a new Drag Race recap show called Race Chaser and they are starting w S1 now that it’s finally available

This week’s ep includes a brief but hilarious interview with Shannel & she confirms that her headpiece falling off during the lipsync was 100% staged <3 And she throws majestic casual shade at Alaska & it’s EVERYTHING

They also have a regular recurring Tammie Brown segment <3

http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/race-chaser/

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2018 02:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh jesus. This will be a must listen.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 02:34 (one month ago) Permalink

it’s very enjoyable, Willam & Alaska have good chemistry

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2018 02:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah this has been fun, caught every episode so far -- can't wait until they hit their respective seasons, but they've already been sharing a LOT of new behind-the-scenes stuff.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 August 2018 06:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Where is season 1 available, please?

trishyb, Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:06 (one month ago) Permalink

solarmovie dot net

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Thank you.

trishyb, Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Have we all witnessed this genius?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8acYdlbmigE

Abercromb Metrion Finchos (Leee), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:26 (one month ago) Permalink

OMG Nebraska is so hot he looks like Alexander Skarsgård.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 12:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i just learned the most amazing bts gossip
Did u guys know that Shannel & Derrick Barry used to date?

how awesome is that

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Bianca generated a lot of controversy at Montreal Pride last night. During the outdoors show she was hosting, she joked about Blair Saint-Clair's rape and rape in general. I thought it was shocking in a Bianca kind of way, but a lot of the 12 000 plus crowd was offended and booed her. Fierté Montréal made an official statement today to appologise and dissociate themselves with "some of the content that was said last night".

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 17 August 2018 22:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i was at the pride show but left before the rape comments - bianca definitely on brutally top form, making cruel/hilarious digs against all and every comer...

sean gramophone, Friday, 17 August 2018 23:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Per VG's comment there, Race Chasers is unsurprisingly now a totally essential listen. The episode with Ongina guesting was next level for the background detail there.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:35 (one month ago) Permalink

i am still kinda outraged that ongina didn’t actually get to be a spokesperson for MAC! jerks

her story abt seeing Shanel for the first time & asking if she was a host was adorable

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 August 2018 02:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Latest Race Chasers great as ever, and of course more behind the scenes stuff in general (Willam says that Sharon didn't shower on her season but that she was into it and they made out -- Alaska sounded unsurprised).

Meantime!

🚨 ALYSSA EDWARDS IS GETTING A NETFLIX SERIES 🚨 pic.twitter.com/JQV8Y0DQR8

— Mike T (@majtague) August 22, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:08 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I'm catching up Race Chasers and lol at the interview with Shannel where their connection drops and reconnects after like 10 seconds and Shannel is STILL talking.

Cold Stone Cream Austin (Leee), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah everything about that interview was pure gold

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 22:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

honestly i didnt think i could love her more but Race Chasers has given me a whole new level of appreciation

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 22:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Alaska and Willam are a perfect pairing, because one is a total acolyte and the other a total skeptic and they’re both equally smart about how the biz works

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 01:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

exactly. i think as well it’s a great match bc they both seem to have a pretty amazing work ethic in life, not only for their own drag, but performing in general & gigs of any kind so it’s not like 90% of podcasts where they think the idea & their personality is enough, and then just faff through it. they’re both actually really trying to provide good content while still being themselves & it shows.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 01:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm going to this https://bushwig.com/ this weekend and am gonna see Alaska, Sasha Velour, Aja, and Dida Ritz, and maybe Thorgy? also Lady Bunny

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 03:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh and Pearl is djing lol

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 03:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Best quote from todays Race Chasers, was Willam on Rebecca Glasscock:

“That’s not even fashion. Dont’t call it that. Those are CLOTHES.”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 September 2018 01:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Hahah yeah that was great.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:14 (one week ago) Permalink

It was interesting when they pointed out how for at least the first two seasons everyone was mostly off-the-rack with their wardrobe choices but now most queens wouldn’t even walk into the ~workroom~ in anything off-the-rack let alone on stage.
(Unless you’re ChiChi DeVayne)
(and I say that from a place of love)

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:28 (one week ago) Permalink

My god, I think I've found the most shamelessly negligible of all showbiz awards...

Yaaas!!! Thank you @GoldDerby Awards!!! #DragRace snatched the award for Reality Competition Program and Mama @RuPaul snatched the award for Reality Host!! 🏆Come through!!! pic.twitter.com/KcgWPzUO0N

— RuPaul's Drag Race (@RuPaulsDragRace) September 7, 2018

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:31 (one week ago) Permalink

My challop: "Come through" is some weak-tea catchphrase.

Nag Reddit (Leee), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

went to Werq the World last night in montreal
great show (although give the ticket prices, i'd sure hope so)
Aquaria, Valentina, Violet Chachki, Eureka, Asia O'Hara, Kameron, Kim Chi, hosted by Bob the Drag Queen

to everyone's surprise (?) violet chachki stole the show
though i gotta say that one of eureka's numbers was amazing (and i hate eureka)

aquaria was great, really inhabits herself

asia did a piece about dying butterflies

sean gramophone, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:13 (one week ago) Permalink

Might have been said before but Aquaria is the Valentina dream realized. She really exposed what Valentina was lacking this last season.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:31 (one week ago) Permalink

This is where I approve of Leee’s display name kthxbye

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:23 (one week ago) Permalink

ha i didn’t notice that before 👍🏻

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Ta!

Nag Reddit (Leee), Sunday, 9 September 2018 01:06 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, picking up on Sean's post just above, Violet is starting to really come into her own here a couple more years down the line. She and Katya did the latest Fashion Photo Ruview and my girlfriend and I think she pretty easily stole the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tj4z5-GxMM

My girlfriend also adding that in terms of look and absolutely cutting right to the chase and telling you what she thinks, she feels Violet has got some classic Boy George vibes about now.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:15 (one week ago) Permalink

otm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Eureka vs... Lisa Landry from Sister Sister

that's a thing now

what a world

boxedjoy, Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:45 (one week ago) Permalink

?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:55 (one week ago) Permalink

There's no fight. Eureka inserted herself into a situation when she should've just sat there and ate her rice.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:30 (one week ago) Permalink

She pretty easily stole the show

Violet has got some classic Boy George vibes about now.

Totally. She is doing amazing in these.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Geopolitical impact by one of our all-stars!

"The obstacle's a four-letter word: M-I-L-K," says WH econ advisor Larry Kudlow of trade talks with Canada. In the WH driveway with reporters, he says the US wants a trade deal with Canada but has to get through their tariffs on milk and dairy, he says as high as 300%. pic.twitter.com/1JoOW5jg8N

— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) September 12, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:19 (one week ago) Permalink


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