'...and DON'T *bleep* IT UP!' -- the RuPaul's Drag Race thread

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About time for this, I figure! Fifth season premiered yesterday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (seven years ago) link

condragulations

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Quite right!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:08 (seven years ago) link

this show is kind of fascinating in a "gender is all performance!" way - everyone congratulating each other (incl the judges) on how well they achieve some kind of archetypal female-ness

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Okay come on, I KNOW I'm not the only person on here watching.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:38 (seven years ago) link

I promise to start now.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Marilyn Monroe should've been in the bottom. She didn't do anything.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:48 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that was an epic flop. I like Ivy well enough but that made me go "Whuh?"

Jinkx, Alaska and Roxy were the best overall, but Jinkx just owned it period.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:51 (seven years ago) link

I like Ivy too and I think she was lucky she didn't have to lipsynch against Lineysha. I didn't expect her to do so well (but her Celia Cruz was unforgiveable).

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 17:24 (seven years ago) link

Deep clusterfuck, that. Also what WAS Detox thinking.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

um hi I just started watching season 5 online having never watched and omg I'm hooked

I'll be caught up in no time :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Don't forget to watch Untucked, an essential part of this show!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I just figured that out...gotta love these bitchy girls. MORE drag homework? *twists arm*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Very good. Join us, join us...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Shanté, you stay!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (seven years ago) link

Season 2 still the best so far, I think.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (seven years ago) link

I just binge-rewatched season 3 over the weekend on Netflix and I might have to vote for that one. Then again I just like Raja a hell of a lot, so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:44 (seven years ago) link

Yes for Raja and Manila. But the rest, not so interesting. Yara-Sophia maybe...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:47 (seven years ago) link

It actually came down to the right final four I thought, Alexis was a character in her own right. But yeah Yara (Xara?) was next level.

I still haven't seen season four! For some stupid reason it's not on Netflix -- it was for about two seconds and then went away again without explanation. (Already know who won, obv., but I'd like to see it happen.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Wait what!! Can't you watch it on logo online or something? We can't in Canada but I thought you could in the US.
Season 4 was pretty good, although they tried to create too much unnecessary drama. But I'll let you see by yourself.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:58 (seven years ago) link

You can see the Untucked episodes from season 4 on the site but not the main shows. Since you can buy all the shows from iTunes maybe they want to go that route? Who knows!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Makes sense. If RuPaul had a dollar everytime she mentions iTunes...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Hey, house payments are probably up there. (And I don't begrudge Ru ANY success and trappings.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:18 (seven years ago) link

I don't either. At least she's very upfront and funny about it.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:25 (seven years ago) link

Fun fact we learned during the All Stars season: Jujubee's real name is actually Airplane!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:28 (seven years ago) link

Hahaha yeah I remember thinking "Wait, what?"

I also love that Manila's real name is the none-more-Minnesota Karl Westerberg.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:35 (seven years ago) link

Lol wow

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Almost caught up on S5 now yay!

Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS

I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:53 (seven years ago) link

I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:13 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:15 (seven years ago) link

that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:57 (seven years ago) link

I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:28 (seven years ago) link

I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:27 (seven years ago) link

I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it.
I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 05:51 (seven years ago) link

Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site

http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/

Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:15 (seven years ago) link

Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).

https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:20 (seven years ago) link

This is better than what they showed on the show:

http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:59 (seven years ago) link

My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:

1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage
2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing
3. Tatianna as Britney Spears
4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie
5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:03 (seven years ago) link

xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.

Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Hottest out of drag:

S1: Jade
S2: Tyra, Raven
S3: Raja, Carmen, Mariah
S4: PhiPhi, Lashauwn
S5: Lineysha

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:26 (seven years ago) link

xp otm

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:28 (seven years ago) link

If Shea Coulee gets a win and they bring in Sasha as the assasin

And Sasha shows up wearing a flower pot on her head.

Shade Kool-Aid (Leee), Monday, 8 June 2020 20:44 (three weeks ago) link

Well, not Sasha last night, but Alyssa indeed. Shea pretty much owned the entire episode and made it seem easy, which is probably why we got so much Ongina meltdown and Cracker heel turn.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

this season seems pretty clearly Shea's to lose, like she is just on a completely different level than everyone else. I could totally see another Manila situation where she gets sent home for being too big of a threat. That lip sync could easily slide into the GOAT canon.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

I could totally see another Manila situation where she gets sent home for being too big of a threat.

As much as Naomi saying "Life's not fair" was iconic, this is where the format fails for what the show's trying to do. But so long as it doesn't end in another tie, fine.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:28 (two weeks ago) link

I just realized the last 2 seasons of All-Stars had the clear winners going home way too early

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:40 (two weeks ago) link

Exactly. In the old-school All-Stars, Ben and Manila would be in the pantheon.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

It's like Cracker never got over Asia saying that she's not a star -- the first opportunity that Cracker got to turn the tables, she greedily dished it out. At least she seems to have the self-awareness to know how she's coming across.

Alyssa coming in after the vote to comfort Ongina was sweet.

Shade Kool-Aid (Leee), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

Alyssa seemed kinda low enery (for her) on that lipsync? both of them were awesome though, obv. I need Alyssa’s gold boots in my life

Shea’s runway though! Jaw drop, heart stop, iconic.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, Alyssa didn't seem like her usual self. I wondered if the outfit she had on was not comfortable, or was about to fall apart. Or if she just wanted Shea to have $20,000? Not to take away from Shea, though, who was fantastic. Her runway look was timely, fashionable, and funny but dignified. And her lipsync was well worth $20,000.

trishyb, Sunday, 14 June 2020 10:34 (two weeks ago) link

I do wonder tho, like what is driving the lip sync assassins? they're not competing for a prize and nothing's at stake for them

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 June 2020 13:51 (two weeks ago) link

TV exposure, brand awareness, plus theyre getting paid

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2020 14:17 (two weeks ago) link

Sure, that gets them on the stage, but once they’re there they’re not really FIGHTING for anything, you know?

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 June 2020 18:59 (two weeks ago) link

hmm yeah i guess that’s true!

it’d be cool if the assassin watched the whole episode backstage and then was arbitrarily given their own vote #ChaosRule

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2020 19:02 (two weeks ago) link

Just caught an ep of AS2 on Pluto and, man, they'll never accumulate a season with a bench of talent that deep ever gain.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 13:17 (two weeks ago) link

Seemed to me me like Alyssa was asked to phone it in on purpose. Shea slayed it anyway.

Sad my little Ongina couldn't find her confidence back.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 15 June 2020 13:20 (two weeks ago) link

Just caught an ep of AS2 on Pluto and, man, they'll never accumulate a season with a bench of talent that deep ever gain.

― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), lundi 15 juin 2020 13:17 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah biggest cast ever. Imagine if Ben had accepted the invitation and had been there instead of Coco.

AS5 in comparison does seem like Some Stars (save a few obvious superstars).

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 15 June 2020 13:26 (two weeks ago) link

Ohhh some drama!
So is Alexis gonna steal Cracker’s lunch money next week? Stuff her into a locker? She is gagging for a fight

The challenge felt a bit weird & dumb but Juju was cracking me up so I am glad she won.

Loved the Untucked scene between Juju, Blair & Mayhem talking about struggles with addiction & alcohol. it was v moving to see Mayhem open up to them. I like it when this show can do that

Alexis as a circus tent on the runway made me think of Beetlejuice
https://i.gifer.com/2LBe.gif

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:15 (one week ago) link

I knew when they showed not one but two people picking [redacted]'s lipstick that they were trying to build up some big-time drama about sending [redacted] home way earlier than expected. I've watched this show enough that I wasn't worried.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:19 (one week ago) link

Yeah no way THAT result was going to happen. Still mildly surprised at who did go, though.

Loved the Untucked scene between Juju, Blair & Mayhem talking about struggles with addiction & alcohol. it was v moving to see Mayhem open up to them. I like it when this show can do that

Yes, that was notable. (Mind you, I think they used every last variation of the 'sad piano music' they have for those sequences.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:20 (one week ago) link

This elimination hurt, because the queen who left is so classy and wise. Like, I wish she could be my mentor!

Learned Leeegue (Leee), Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:31 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I was not thrilled with any of the outcomes of this ep tbh, outside of Juju finally getting a main challenge win!

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:44 (one week ago) link

Sad to see Mariah go for sure

Bob the Drag Queen said in his recap show that he wishes these original queens like Mariah & were elevated more for making the show what it is now, for inspiring so many queens to DO drag after their seasons

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:12 (one week ago) link

I wanted India to get the chop, she’s SO bland

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:12 (one week ago) link

You said it so I don't have to. I don't disagree with her winning week 1 but I think we've seen the full extent of her talents.

Learned Leeegue (Leee), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:28 (one week ago) link

Hard agree. Ugh.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 June 2020 23:37 (one week ago) link

Here's my power rankings from who's currently left...

Shea
Jujubee
Alexis (tho she's poised to plummet thanks to workroom buffoonery; still wins me over with shit like losing the aerosol can's cap)
Blair
Cracker
India
Mayhem

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 03:51 (one week ago) link

I have heard stories about my last-placer from people who've worked with her (or, rather, tried to), and her unabashedly picking you-know-who's lipstick this week was the final straw confirming what I'd heard.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 03:53 (one week ago) link

Agree with yr top 2 for sure
I dunno if Alexis is top 3 - she’s insanely talented but her taste level is her worst enemy.
But, maybe she is.
i dont really care at all about Blair.
while I love Cracker I think she is beginning to spiral. If there is a god, she’ll pull out of the freefall & make it into top 3. But I dunno. Alexis is def hungrier.

... Mayhem feels like she coasts too much on the esteem she supposedly has in the drag world without actually living up to the talent they say she has. Or maybe tv just fucks with her head too much.

India must go. Please. If there is a god

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:14 (one week ago) link

I've always looked at Cracker and said "potential." But it more often than not ends there.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:28 (one week ago) link

Fair

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:40 (one week ago) link

This season feels like it's Shea's to lose, nobody else seems to be coming close to her

boxedjoy, Sunday, 21 June 2020 07:25 (one week ago) link

Jujubee is funnier, but I think that's the only area where anyone beats Shea.

I actively dislike Cracker at this stage. She is so me-me-me that I just can't stand it. Instead of concentrating on the challenge, all she does is concentrate on how she's coming across in the challenge.

trishyb, Sunday, 21 June 2020 16:25 (one week ago) link

I can see that. I personally find her neurosis relatable & give her more rope because of it. She’s SO funny to me though as a performer.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 June 2020 17:26 (one week ago) link

y'all this lip sync was SO bland, I could not believe how bland it was!!!! It felt like neither of them were trying and I definitely wondered if Juju was losing on purpose so she didn't have to be the bad guy who sent someone home, like that's how lifeless it was

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 June 2020 17:50 (one week ago) link

yeah it was pretty underwhelming

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:02 (one week ago) link

that's not the first time Alexis has been compared to beetlejuice iirc!!

here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:20 (one week ago) link

in her original season, Alexis was described by Michelle as looking "like Beetlejuice" with her hair pulled back, but the context led me to believe she actually meant this character from beetlejuice

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Wqfsk6DGsG8/WOReJ_kSVxI/AAAAAAAAADM/tE6J-BdKb5wXHneKSg4XBuA37c10-fYZwCLcB/s1600/Images-for-beetlejuice-shrunken-head.jpg

here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

omg lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

Roffle.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 June 2020 22:18 (one week ago) link

As we get ready for tonight: the new season of Werq the World is three episodes in, all pretty good. Asia O'Hara's was more a fun slice of life, but the Yvie and Detox episodes got really heavy -- Detox with extended thoughts and footage about returning to Orlando and visiting Pulse, Yvie with blunt talk about her condition and the pain it causes. Something that really sunk in with me in light of this year is that -- maybe, hopefully not -- that tour might have been Yvie's only chance to really showcase what she does nationwide, all depending on whatever happens with how long it takes live shows to come back and how quickly things will start to affect her.

Lighter note -- so it turns out Race Chaser now has a related spinoff show The Chop which will cover Canada's Drag Race and it's hosted by Manila and Latrice, which, of course (and I'm guessing it may just also become their own podcast for all kinds of things). First episode on Monday, probably just covering the run up to next week's premiere.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 June 2020 23:43 (six days ago) link

Color me tickled that [this week's winner] could turn out a lip sync like THAT!

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:49 (five days ago) link

Yeah that I did not expect!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:29 (five days ago) link

I also gotta say them being totally butched up bros for the SheMZ studio part was goddamn hilarious.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:34 (five days ago) link

I just realized that the lipsync assassin ruveal reminds me of The Chase.

trishyb, Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:06 (five days ago) link

IIRC this week's winner competed with a broken foot in her original season.

None of the groups were any good, though I laughed the most with Alexis (stepped-on lines and all).

The runway was much better though! Who knew that India could pull off editorial? And Blair's mug!

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:53 (five days ago) link

Blair looked like a couture version of being the tree in the school play lol

Lipsync was so good!! I could watch Morgan slay every day

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:15 (five days ago) link

Something that's baffling me is how India isn't catching any votes.

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Sunday, 28 June 2020 21:34 (four days ago) link

i feel like maybe it's because people don't see her as a threat?

here 1st (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:47 (four days ago) link

she's also getting generally good critiques

here 1st (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:47 (four days ago) link

Nothing India's done so far has struck me as egregiously bad, either.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:07 (three days ago) link


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