itt we talk about Enlightened on HBO, seasons 1-1000000

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so i just started watching this and it rules!

only three eps in and i have absolutely no idea where it's headed.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:27 (eight years ago) link

I have not talked to another human being who's watched this, laura dern & blonde guy are utterly cringe inducing at times but i really liked the way season 1 played out

season 2 so far not doing it for me though :(

Bob-omb The Videogame Industry! (Will M.), Monday, 21 January 2013 21:12 (eight years ago) link

i found season one pretty hard to watch, ended up skipping to the last episode and wasn't sure i'd 'missed much'

spent a lot of time looking at one of the leads and going "is that ... fat luke wilson?"

otoh, the first three minutes or so was maybe the most bravura opening of any tv show's first episode i've ever seen. and laura dern can act the shit out of anything, obviously.

attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Monday, 21 January 2013 23:26 (eight years ago) link

THIS IS THE BEST SHOW AND OH MY GOD

maura, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 00:18 (eight years ago) link

i like to think that i had my 'burn it down' moment last september 14 :D

maura, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 00:18 (eight years ago) link

no but for real this show is like... well i am writing an essay about it right now so i should probably no-spoilers this shit but yeah, it SPEAKS TO ME in a way few other tv shows do

maura, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 00:19 (eight years ago) link

it's so much better than girls although that's probably because i'm old

maura, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 01:11 (eight years ago) link

the tagline for the this season should be "enlightened: a rising number of people think it is better, specifically, than the tv show girls"

attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 01:44 (eight years ago) link

http://www.maura.com/301/into-the-light

s.clover, Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:27 (eight years ago) link

coke night on hbo

johnny crunch, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:56 (eight years ago) link

relentlessly posi episode.

s.clover, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:25 (eight years ago) link

okay maura you convinced me: I'll give it a whirl.

invoking bunheads is powerful magic :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 January 2013 04:31 (eight years ago) link

Predicting awesome rage relapse when she realizes journalist dude is using her & she won't get her due glory. The parts with Luke Wilson bore the shit out of me. Kind of want to just skip over them.

emilys., Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:22 (eight years ago) link

i loved that last wilson episode. it was such a relief from the constant tension and anxiety the show trades on.

s.clover, Friday, 1 February 2013 03:38 (eight years ago) link

I like this show. I can't think of any other series with such a bizarre POV and treatment of its main character. Are we meant to sympathize/empathize with her? Are we meant to agree with her? Is she a hero? If so then why is she so fucking annoying? Why does it so often seem like it is mocking her?

akm, Friday, 1 February 2013 03:54 (eight years ago) link

Not to quibble minor points with Maura's article, but I think "abbadon" means "destruction" or "destroyer".

kate78, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:31 (eight years ago) link

very strange show. I've watched a few episodes here and there, and know the general premise I guess, but mybe I need to see it from the beginning to "get it."

dmr, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:33 (eight years ago) link

nah, you probably "get it"

name directors doing tv eps doesnt usually amt to much ime, but todd haynes did the ep next week

johnny crunch, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:44 (eight years ago) link

i love love love this show and i don't seem to know anyone else in my personal life who watches it at all

i had a full-on cover-my-eyes I-CAN'T-EVEN body cringe reaction to the baby shower scene in S1

steaklife (donna rouge), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Only seen two episodes of the first season but love it so far -- thanks for the recommend, folks on this thread!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:39 (eight years ago) link

first half of the article is on girls, but the second on enlightened is decent, if brief: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/02/11/130211crte_television_nussbaum?currentPage=all

s.clover, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:36 (eight years ago) link

Home sick today, caught up on the entire two seasons and am just about to watch last week's episode.

I really like it! Amy is fucking cuckoo and bizarre and hilarious and god that baby shower scene I was hiding my face under my blanket for most of it, GOD.
I love Luke Wilson soooo much. So much. And WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THAT DIANE LADD PLAYS HER MOM? so awesome.

Anyway YAY to this show.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 February 2013 06:00 (eight years ago) link

this ep abt tyler is amazing i swear im not crying

johnny crunch, Monday, 11 February 2013 03:55 (eight years ago) link

tyler is the best.

s.clover, Monday, 11 February 2013 04:05 (eight years ago) link

just found out this season is only 8 eps long :/

also todd haynes directed last night's ep! haven't watched it yet tho

steaklife (donna rouge), Monday, 18 February 2013 21:08 (eight years ago) link

I read someone describe this show as "reminiscent of Dan Clowes comics." Is that at all accurate? I've never even seen a trailer for it, but if that's at all true I'm super intrigued.

Walter Galt, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:33 (eight years ago) link

Just started watching this and love it intensely. As with Chuck & Buck, Mike White seems really interested in making the audience consider the innate humanity of characters that every other movie ever uses as throw-away one-dimensional jokes. There's also the terror of societal winners getting exposed by societal rejects. Amy is really awful and really doesn't want to be, and so was Chuck, and so (maybe) was Mike White's dad, and that's fascinating stuff.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:00 (eight years ago) link

I chucked where I should have bucked. You understand anyway, right?

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:00 (eight years ago) link

finally a good show on HBO

surm, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:12 (eight years ago) link

i'm like, so the right candidate for watching this show

surm, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:28 (eight years ago) link

I caught up on this a couple of weeks ago and now I'm behind again :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:30 (eight years ago) link

I keep wanting to love this but I just don't.

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 20:40 (eight years ago) link

the play of emotions in the last big scene in the episode, where there's this dawning revelation that she's just caught in mid-air was fantastic.

s.clover, Sunday, 3 March 2013 08:27 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

looks like we can officially change the thread title to "seasons 1-2" :(

steaklife (donna rouge), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:50 (eight years ago) link

WTF!!

kate78, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:28 (eight years ago) link

:( :(

surm, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:24 (eight years ago) link

when we watched the s 2 finale it did seem verrrrry, like, done

but i just thought it was bc it was the s 2 finale

but then my boyfriend was like, you know i think that was it

i think it's over

i'm still actually pretty sad. i don't get into new shows that much anymore. this actually had a meaning, a depth.

surm, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:24 (eight years ago) link

This will probably be replaced in the line-up next winter by Mike Judge's Silicon Valley show.

Cunga, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:26 (eight years ago) link

as soon as i heard the v/o echoed the one from the pilot i was p sure it was over

would have loved to see more but it doesn't feel unfinished

open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:27 (eight years ago) link

I'm still excited to watch this, I'd always been meaning to but there are only so many hours in the day and all. Was really enthused after hearing Mike White's WTF interview.

i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:28 (eight years ago) link

dern is just an A+ actress, like not one moment was she out of character. scene where newspaper guy broke up with her o_O :( :|

surm, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:30 (eight years ago) link

I shotgunned both seasons of this in about a week and loved it. Just beautifully written, and acted. I'm okay with it ending, though. Not everything needs to carry on for years and years, and this story felt like it had been told. I'm more keen to see what Mike White does next.

DavidM, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:18 (eight years ago) link

according to white s3 would've been her dealing with all the lawsuits

steaklife (donna rouge), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:39 (eight years ago) link

oh that would have been so great.

s.clover, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:15 (eight years ago) link

Just watched the finale. I'm glad Eileen seems to want to give Tyler another chance. May be a good place to end, as long as MW continues to produce shows.

I don't think a season of law suit action would be very involving, tbh.

nickn, Friday, 22 March 2013 04:09 (eight years ago) link

i preferred the slower pace of the first season actually. loved the dreamy episodes most of all.

s.clover, Friday, 22 March 2013 05:57 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

How would we diagnose Amy Jellicoe?

Leon Septamost, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:59 (seven years ago) link

why would you want to

your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 September 2013 11:20 (seven years ago) link

Well, yeah.

I mean this might be in the all-time top ten for me. Insanely underrated/underdiscussed.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 19:25 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

rewatching my favorite show :D

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:31 (three years ago) link

thread title makes me sad :(

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:32 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

anyone else watching the White Lotus, first ep was intriguing, same feeling as Enlightened where I have no idea where this show is going

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 02:31 (two weeks ago) link

seriously phenomenal so far, where are my Mike White heads at

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 19 July 2021 03:31 (one week ago) link

only watched 1st ep and i was v into it!

just sayin, Monday, 19 July 2021 03:55 (one week ago) link

Watched ep 1 just now and liked it, based on your (Murg) rec, and I like Mike White.

nickn, Monday, 19 July 2021 05:01 (one week ago) link

1st ep was great.

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 July 2021 05:38 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I'm digging this. Not much of consequence has happened and I have no idea where it's going yet (and no idea what the elevator pitch could've possibly been), but I appreciate its slow unfolding. I can't imagine it lasting more than a single season (at least unless it becomes a sort of anthology) but I'll take what I can get while I get it.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 July 2021 11:17 (one week ago) link

it's a six-ep limited series

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 19 July 2021 11:47 (one week ago) link

Ah, that makes sense. Unfortunately brief but understandable.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 July 2021 11:48 (one week ago) link

Oh also this show premiering prompted me to finally buy the Enlightened DVDs, only to discover that it's not just out of print but so out of print that new copies are scarce even on the secondary market. Such a shame, that show is just gonna be unceremoniously swallowed up by time.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 July 2021 11:51 (one week ago) link

thank u past self for buying them on sale at HMV

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 19 July 2021 11:53 (one week ago) link

I KNOW A LOT OF RICH WHITE FUCKED-UP PEOPLE

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 01:56 (one week ago) link

As a meditation on service industry it feels pretty sharp thus far

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 04:04 (one week ago) link

this is a pretty great turn of events

absolutely thrilled to report that this man has a star turn in the white lotus...living well is the best revenge!!!! https://t.co/YjNc64CnwF

— rachel syme (@rachsyme) July 19, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 06:16 (one week ago) link

What's bizarre about that is dude's apartment seems... fine? Like, I make a good living and that's pretty much what my Zoom background looks like, what is the great shame supposed to be here?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 13:58 (one week ago) link

watched 2 episodes tonight. A+ amazing.

dan selzer, Friday, 23 July 2021 03:28 (one week ago) link

in addition to everything else that's great about the show, Cristobal Tapia de Veer is just doing exceptional work for the soundtrack

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 July 2021 03:44 (four days ago) link

agreed. probably overdue for a devoted thread imo.

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 03:46 (four days ago) link

wait, for the show or for the composer?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 July 2021 03:50 (four days ago) link

bc neither would make much sense as its own thread tbh imo

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 July 2021 03:54 (four days ago) link

The former

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 04:05 (four days ago) link

ehh I don't see any point in making a thread for a show that's done in three weeks but if you want to make one, knock yrself out

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 July 2021 04:07 (four days ago) link

i am starting to think maybe i dont like this show as much as i thought i did but cant pinpoint why

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 July 2021 05:30 (four days ago) link

it's a little mean and occasionally gross and it was a lot moreso this episode, though i am still trying to give it good faith interpretation until we get a bit further down the path. Coolidge is clearly a tragic character whose pain is being played for occasionally cheap laughs but her general presumption of power makes it unclear whether using her as an exemplar of rich white lady is punching up or not.

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:38 (four days ago) link

britton's character is pretty underwritten thus far and her daughter is a weird question mark. but i am compelled!

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:39 (four days ago) link

I experience the characters on this show as real people much much more than in most other shows I watch, not sure how much of this is down to good acting and how much to writing (and I except the characters played for laffs like coolidge's and to some extent the hotel manager)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:46 (four days ago) link

Murray Bartlett is really fantastic, was not familiar with him

I feel like somebody told him "Basil Fawlty but sympathetic, go"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:00 (four days ago) link

the dialogue is really bothering me sometimes, characters just churn out huge chunks of exposition for reason

the whole exchange with britton & the daughter about zahn’s dad while he’s sitting there was like weird cliffs notes or something, like “for the viewers at home who arent following along THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON WITH STEVE ZAHN”

but i also love the hotel manager & the masseuse & literally every shot of the ocean so i am still going to keep watching

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:06 (four days ago) link

but also i think the Britton Zahn family isnt believable as a family because theyre so quippy & blank with each other

so maybe its just a me thing with them specifically

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:08 (four days ago) link

xpost to ums Murray was in Looking! he’s great, that was a v good show imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:09 (four days ago) link

the whole exchange with britton & the daughter about zahn’s dad while he’s sitting there was like weird cliffs notes or something, like “for the viewers at home who arent following along THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON WITH STEVE ZAHN”

See I totally bought this, the mom disclosing that information clearly not having discussed with the dad whether he wanted it disclosed, the daughter experimenting with how it feels being pretty mean to her dad but in a "come on just having fun" kind of way, set up as a companion piece to her interaction with the hedge-fund husband splashing her at the pool, which interaction said husband later explains to peeved wife as "just giving them shit"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:18 (four days ago) link

Looking is secretly one of the great tv shows

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:29 (four days ago) link

otm!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:35 (four days ago) link

I wonder if one reason I experience the characters as real people is that (again excepting Coolidge) I don't think I've seen any of these actors in anything before

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:57 (four days ago) link

i've seen basically every actor in this show in a different hbo show lol

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 July 2021 20:22 (four days ago) link

Looking was a great show, I forgot that he was in that. Great actor.

I love this show, partly because the last time we went to maui we stayed next door to this resort (this is the Four Seasons); we did eat over there a few times and walked through it enough for it all to be familiar.

I agree that Britton is underwritten so far but figure it might focus on her a bit more in the second half. It is hard too say what the overriding 'story' of the show is, but I kind of don't care because I enjoy the writing so much and Mike White really does write great characters.

akm, Monday, 26 July 2021 21:10 (four days ago) link

it always takes me a moment to register when connie britton is meant to be playing an unsympathetic character because i know and love her from her role as saint on earth tami taylor in friday night lights

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 July 2021 21:15 (four days ago) link

yeah I'm kind of willing to give her character all kinds of credit because I am in love with her

akm, Monday, 26 July 2021 21:46 (four days ago) link

I wouldn't describe her character in this show as wholly unsympathetic

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 July 2021 21:48 (four days ago) link

nb, i haven't seen episode 3 yet

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 July 2021 21:48 (four days ago) link

yet to arrive as a cast member: molly shannon

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 04:43 (three days ago) link

:D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 04:45 (three days ago) link

Oh yeah, my wife clocked her voice on the phone, loving her late career Renaissance.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:28 (three days ago) link

that nyer interview was great

ep3 was really good & hilarious imo

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 01:28 (two days ago) link

Agree the interview was really good. Fascinating that the college girls are in some ways the characters he identifies with (which makes sense, since he is, in some ways, the hardest on them.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 02:24 (two days ago) link

"we have a stylist pick them out" was a great line

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 03:42 (two days ago) link


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