Literary Clusterfucks 2013

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Beginning to think maybe a rolling thread might be good. Anyway:

So Alisa Valdes just publishes this memoir about this cowboy of hers and how he's a man's man and now's she's a woman like never before and etc. That link's to Hanna Rosin's review, and she's essentially going "Um...you sure?"

And then Valdes publishes this today.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:15 (seven years ago) link

That said, a lot can happen in two years, especially when you’re in a relationship with a man as complicated and volatile as the cowboy.

j., Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:17 (seven years ago) link

"what I actually wrote was a handbook for women on how to fall in love with a manipulative, controlling, abusive narcissist."

just what the world needed. like a poke in the eye.

Aimless, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:32 (seven years ago) link

jesus

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:35 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FORoSB5JxCU

"Cowboy up."

jim, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:44 (seven years ago) link

none of these people are really writers

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, June 4, 2010 1:18 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:49 (seven years ago) link

wtf @ that whole story

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link

polo shirt under a jacket, tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link

I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy.
You see by my outfit that I'm a cowboy, too.
We see by these outfits that we are all cowboys.
If you buy a cowboy outfit, you can be a cowboy, too.

Aimless, Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link

damn nm I just actually read this shit how f'd up

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:07 (seven years ago) link

i keep reading her name as alida valli

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:27 (seven years ago) link

jesus

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:37 (seven years ago) link

I don't know if we do this around here but there's some srs abuse and sexual assault triggers in Ned's second link

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:47 (seven years ago) link

it's probably a good thing that she's posting a picture of her rapist on the internet, now we can watch out for him

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:51 (seven years ago) link

man that's a tough read

goole, Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:51 (seven years ago) link

cowboyfucks

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:11 (seven years ago) link

How much you wanna bet that Mr Cowboy is gonna be a MRA talking head

Theodora Celery, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:49 (seven years ago) link

In 2001, Valdes emailed a 3400-word resignation letter to her superiors at the Los Angeles Times. The letter was widely circulated on the Internet[ and reprinted in the St. Petersburg Times. In the letter she accused the newspaper of racism and discrimination, especially in its synonymous use of the word "latino" with "Spanish-speaker", a practice she equated to genocide.

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:54 (seven years ago) link

buzza are you suggesting that alisa valdes is hysterical or otherwise to be dismissed

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:32 (seven years ago) link

this is not the elizabeth wurtzel thread

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:35 (seven years ago) link

And so, even though I was 43 years old and have Lupus

WHY DO THESE FANFICCY CRAP ROMANCE NOVELISTS ALWAYS HAVE LUPUS OR FIBRO WTF.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:36 (seven years ago) link

hm prob should have read the whole post of hers before making light. still, this shit brings the whole 50 shades bullshit into its awful, true light.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:46 (seven years ago) link

Considering Valdes wrote one of the single most amazing demolitions of a horrible person ever, reading/seeing all this...yeah.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:43 (seven years ago) link

okay that was awesome. thanks for linking that Ned

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:48 (seven years ago) link

still cannot get over her story with the cowboy. so fucked up. I mean, just that it reads so familiarly, is so sad to me.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:52 (seven years ago) link

this is not the elizabeth wurtzel thread

oh, okay then

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:55 (seven years ago) link

“An irresistible, post-feminist Taming of the Shrew. Don’t be scared by the premise. This is not a story about a woman relinquishing her identity. Quite the opposite. It is a riveting tale about how a brilliant, strong-minded woman liberated herself from a dreary, male-bashing, reality-denying feminism.”

– Christina Hoff Sommers, author of The War Against Boys; How Misguided Feminism is Harming Our Young Men

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:24 (seven years ago) link

a practice she equated to genocide

ugh fuck this, there is like a 100% chance she was referring to cultural genocide, a term used for decades and not meant to imply the actual murder of a group of people

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:25 (seven years ago) link

http://www.sptimes.com/News/110300/Floridian/The_language_of_genoc.shtml

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:37 (seven years ago) link

buzza idgi are you trying to damage the credibility of the woman who basically just announced she wrote a book about a man who raped her

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:39 (seven years ago) link

apparently so?

it's tough when you can only speak in the form of revived threads

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:53 (seven years ago) link

seemed like zachylon wanted the context of the wiki quote so i provided it?

buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:02 (seven years ago) link

thank you for posting it

she does make a clear distinction between the two types of genocide tho she doesn't mark it with "cultural" or something similar. she does 'equate' the two but that's sort of the idea, while the wiki editor left out any of that context and framed it like "she compared this one tiny linguistic choice with the holocaust", fuck wiki

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:56 (seven years ago) link

"literary"

Broken Clock Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 January 2013 09:18 (seven years ago) link

I have a lot of thoughts about this whole thing and also some feelings but none are organized enough to share except for, Jesus, Lady--at least when I did that I didn't write a book about it.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Thursday, 10 January 2013 14:49 (seven years ago) link

considering that one of the major goals of feminism was to protect women from the power imbalances present in domestic relationships, it's not super surprising that valdes' paean to how feminism got romance wrong and how there's something special about a real man turned out to be about an abusive asshole. i don't mean to suggest that she deserves what happened in the least, but there is a sort of irony that the very political principles she decried in the context of this relationship turned out to be especially relevant to her needs.

Mordy, Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:01 (seven years ago) link

xp On second thought that makes it sound like my experience was as extreme as hers: it was not. I also didn't put it in those terms of submission etc or posit that it revealed anything about how feminism has failed us. And I didn't have to jump out of a moving truck although after getting hit by an actual car frankly I'd take another one of those accidents over another of those relationships.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:03 (seven years ago) link

there is a sort of irony that the very political principles she decried in the context of this relationship turned out to be especially relevant to her needs.

It's not like that's a coincidence. She decried them because she was being told to.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:07 (seven years ago) link

really want some blogger to try to get a reaction out of christina hoff summers

goole, Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:13 (seven years ago) link

I usually assume "How I did X and Changed My Life" memoirists are flighty, superficial and unrealistic people, because shit just doesn't work like that. This is a particularly egregious example.

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:25 (seven years ago) link

This is a horrible horrible story.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:40 (seven years ago) link

btw, I regret my above post, having apparently made it without really reading most of the story in her blog post.

However, the blog post is now gone.

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:44 (seven years ago) link

?!

goole, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:44 (seven years ago) link

this just got a little clusterfuckier

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:46 (seven years ago) link

without the followup blog post this is kind of incoherent

she wrote a fluffy romance novel that seems to spend half its time scolding modern feminism, then revealed that the man she was writing about raped and abused her and (this is where things are fuzzy to me) the whole novel was a double-feint?

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:52 (seven years ago) link

it's a memior!

goole, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:53 (seven years ago) link

ergh

so, replace "romance novel" with "memoir"; is the rest accurate?

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:54 (seven years ago) link

Yup.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:54 (seven years ago) link

huh

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:55 (seven years ago) link

Given some of the things she was also saying about her publisher I wonder if that had something to do with it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:55 (seven years ago) link

Kind of unrelated, but does anyone even pretend to care about Québécois literature at all in anglo Canada?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:46 (two weeks ago) link

juries do: translated works by C4therine Leroux, Eric Dup0nt, S4muel 4rchibald, etc, have all been shortlisted for the Giller. but they go relatively unread. the same is true in reverse: even several young, biliingual quebecois writers i know had never heard of miriam to3ws until a year and a half ago.

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:53 (two weeks ago) link

the same is true in reverse

I'd never heard of her either so QED.

It's also worth pointing out that Leroux was Toronto correspondent for Radio-Canada and Dupont teaches translation at McGill, so they've already got one foot in the ROC, so to speak.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:59 (two weeks ago) link

(The sociology of literary scenes is by far the worst thing about literature.)

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:02 (two weeks ago) link

truly the national book critics circle is a circle

mark s, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:05 (two weeks ago) link

It looks like an indivisible dot when viewed from space.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:06 (two weeks ago) link

Why are all the worst literary clusterfucks Canadian?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:00 (two weeks ago) link

the stakes are so small

j., Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:02 (two weeks ago) link

Shame on you.

(100% otm tho)

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 June 2020 03:20 (two weeks ago) link

Seems to be dumpster fire season in the SFF writing community again. Good to see the squirming apologies from some of the most egregious pricks who've been called out. SF conventions sound like the worst place in the world to be even if you're not being serially harassed by some entitled author twat, btw.

tired of waiting for icu (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 June 2020 13:55 (one week ago) link

links or it didn’t happen

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

I had no idea about the NBCC, but that's because almost nothing I read is on that level— I honestly just don't really read much popular literature besides non-fiction, and my poetry and fiction choices tend to be pretty esoteric, at least by US standards.

I was aware of the Gwen Benaway thing because I have a pretty large number of connections in the experimental poetry scene in Canada, and someone posted about it— if true, it seems really obvious that she needs to apologise and give money to First Nations organizations in her home city.

To bring this back to Mordy's comment, I feel like while it is ever important to point out that racism is real even though race itself is a construct, I also *do* think everyone needs to be careful about elevating certain works simply because of their author's sociopolitical subjectivity. For example, that Jericho Brown book that won the Pulitzer? It's facile garbage, and critiquing the book on its poetic merit shouldn't automatically make a reviewer into a Klansman. Examining whether one's critiques of it are based in white supremacist notions of 'importance' or what is 'literary' is certainly worthwhile, but I don't know a single one of my poet friends who gives a flying fuck about Jericho Brown, and the community that I circulate in is pretty diverse.

Thus arrives one of the major problems that occurs when a mostly white literary establishment begins engaging in efforts to raise visibility of marginalized people— it tokenizes certain marginalized voices and makes them into monolithic speakers for that identity, when many writers who share that identity find the work terrible. But because there's *so little* attention and funding and etc given to those marginalized voices, many people just put up with it.

A few years ago, a Black writer I'm friends with said something along the lines of, "You know, the white literary establishment can only have so many experimental or challenging black poets, which explains why Terence Hayes or Danez Smith or Jericho Brown get so much love for being so accessible, and then there's like a little room for someone like Fred Moten, particularly in the hallways of academia. But you think any of these people give a shit about Kamau Brathwaite? Simone? Adjua? Alexis Gumbs? No. Because white folks have decided what they think Black writing should be, and anything that strays from that can't be marketed because the whites control the market, so it isn't considered."

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:46 (one week ago) link

More people are stepping forward with ways I've made them uncomfortable. I have made inappropriate and overfamiliar comments with many people regarding personal lives. The kind of talk I thought was acceptable was absolutely not. Please let the victims keep speaking.

— Sam Sykes (@SamSykesSwears) June 25, 2020

Having women tell me publicly and privately when I've made them feel uncomfortable or been inappropriate when drinking led me to a horrifying realization and reckoning with the harm I'd done and the impact I had on women around me. 1/

— Myke Cole (@MykeCole) June 24, 2020

xpost

tired of waiting for icu (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:52 (one week ago) link

Wait, you're telling me that white male SFF writers are misogynist pigs? God, I never would have imagined.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:44 (one week ago) link

I had assumed Chuck Wend1g had locked his Twitter account and gone relatively silent because of the blowback he was getting for leading the charge to shut down the Internet Archive, but considering those two quoted above are two of the writers he spends the most time vocally supporting on Twitter... I wonder if he knew something else was coming.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:03 (one week ago) link

my poetry and fiction choices tend to be pretty esoteric, at least by US standards

Care to cite a few names? Asking for a friend.

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:44 (one week ago) link

Wait, you're telling me that white male SFF writers are misogynist pigs? God, I never would have imagined.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Nm6XtZUxQ

Barry "Fatha" Hines (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:06 (one week ago) link

Pomenitul, today I finished Nicole Brossard's 'French Kiss: or a Pang's Promise.' One of her early 'blue books.' This afternoon I've been ploughing through a bestseller, unusual for me, the short story collection 'Friday Black' by Nana Kwame Adjei-Benyah.

Before that, I'd re-read Bisson's 'Fire on the Mountain' and Jean Day's 'The I and the You' simultaneously. Oh, and 'Who Owns Primo's?' by Andy Sterling, plus 'masculine nature's by Clara B..Jones.

My to be read stack features newer books from Anna Gurton-Wachter, Lawrence Giffin, and Don Mee Choi, as well as Gordon Faylor. Older stuff includes Sesshu Foster's first book, a collection of French Canadian feminist theory in translation, and Puar's 'Terrorist Assemblages.'

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:07 (one week ago) link

I should say that I teach for a living and am an 'experimental poet,' so to speak, so that might explain it.

Pretty much all my spare money goes to books and w33d

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:10 (one week ago) link

Thanks. I haven't read that particular Brossard volume but I'm generally a fan of her work.

I spent quite a bit of time trying to keep up with the contemporary 'experimental' North American poetry scene a decade or so ago and ultimately gave up because it became an exclusionary experience for me (either you're part of the clique or you're not) and because I found myself increasingly more interested in what was going on across the Atlantic instead. I've been meaning to make the attempt again, but the incestuous 'community' aspect of it is as off-putting as ever, even violent in its sociological impact (unless it's the community of those who have no community), but this is true of most 'scenes' tbf.

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:24 (one week ago) link

most 'communities' are actually 'scenes' and 'scenes' are very prone to sick dynamics

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 25 June 2020 22:39 (one week ago) link

Pomenitul, I don't blame you for giving up. I've been in and out of a few different scenes but tend toward independence....the writing either interests me or it doesn't, and that's kind of where a lot of my community comes from. I'm friends with many people who violently dislike each other for various reasons, but they have little to do with me.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 23:11 (one week ago) link

As in, their reasons for hating each other have little to do with me, so it's no concern of mine tbh

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 June 2020 23:12 (one week ago) link

the writing either interests me or it doesn't

Yeah, that's the sole viable attitude. I do feel like it's partly my fault for paying too much attention to the sociology of literature – it's just that 95% of the time, I struggle to muster the least bit of interest in stuff that I feel like I'm 'supposed' to be reading (as regards the contemporary era, at least), which systematically gets me thinking about the machinery of artistic visibility (who sees who, who gets seen, and why), and that just kills the pleasure of reading for me, to the extent that I've been consciously spending more time on the classics (the dead) of late. Even as their corpses still wiggle and the so-called Canon's boundaries are perpetually drawn and redrawn, there's a comforting feeling that comes with knowing it's truly over for these writers, it no longer really matters since poetic immortality is the worst kind of sham anyway. This isn't really the case, of course – what we retain from the past, how we establish a given 'cultural' archive, has sociopolitical import in the here and now – but it feels less exhausting to deal with the dead than to keep up with these relentless clusterfucks among the living. Even if it's a necromantic figment, I kind of need it right now.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 00:11 (six days ago) link

paying too much attention to the sociology of literature

As an addendum, I will also say that much contemporary writing explicitly, aggressively invites this kind of reading, which doesn't help.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 00:14 (six days ago) link

It's funny you mention the sociology of literature because I learned from people who were very much involved in schools and scenes... but what interested me about their work was its mix of high and low culture, radical left political leanings, and equal interest in the abject and the classical. The gossip and shit has always bored me.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:08 (six days ago) link

I think the only literary clusterfucks that I've even commented on publicly in recent years were regarding people who'd been outed as former Nazis and people who sexually assaulted other people. Otherwise, not worth my time, your prize doesn't mean shit to me if I think your work is shit, I'll keep reading what I want to read, thanks.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:10 (six days ago) link

Looks like this round is only going to get more involved, judging by this tweet there are more SF/F male artists on the horizon:

I opened my DMs & I've been reading stories. I'm not sharing specific details because those are potential identifiers.

John Ringo
Robert Silverberg
Steven Brust
George RR Martin
Mike Resnick
Chuck Wendig

More follows.

— Ann Aguirre (@MsAnnAguirre) June 25, 2020

A couple of those don't really surprise me, not sure on some of the others.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:53 (six days ago) link

anything that strays from that can't be marketed

this is broadly true for every facet of publishing, not just experimental poetry written by Black poets, but for everything that is published, bar none. book buyers are a small market these days and the majority of book buyers are notoriously conservative about what they choose to read, sticking to well-defined, easily identified genres almost exclusively. small presses often try to buck this trend and branch out into under-represented genres or experimental books. small presses also die like mayflies.

as a result of this perverse narrowness of interests among book buyers, publishers are extremely reluctant to publish anything by anyone that strays from known, comfortable, easily marketed genres. because the point is to at least break even on a book, and that modest goal is very hard to attain.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 26 June 2020 18:16 (six days ago) link

Perhaps this would be less of a problem if we stopped fetishizing the book qua object and fully realized the internet's potential for disrupting and fragmenting said 'market', which is a self-proliferating feedback loop if ever there was one.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 18:27 (six days ago) link

less of a problem if we stopped fetishizing the book qua object

fwiw, I read printed books only. This is not because I fetishize them. I own a Kindle and it is loaded to the gills with books I might enjoy reading. I ignore them and pick up a book, because I find that printed & bound books are easier to read. Ink on paper is a good medium for looking at words in type. This matters much less for brief pieces that I can read in 20 minutes or less, but it becomes increasingly important to me as a piece reaches book length and my reading times are more like 90 to 120 minutes at a stretch.

I kind of envy those of you who find electronic devices an attractive way to read books. I haven't been able to make that leap.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 26 June 2020 18:45 (six days ago) link

changing font size helps on bumpy train rides

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 26 June 2020 18:47 (six days ago) link

I prefer printed books myself but the process of turning them into tangible matter is fraught with sociopolitical obstacles. E-books can serve as a useful alternative when those obstacles become needlessly insurmountable.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 18:51 (six days ago) link

e-readers are u&k for reading on one's side in bed

mookieproof, Friday, 26 June 2020 18:53 (six days ago) link

I opened my DMs & I've been reading stories. I'm not sharing specific details because those are potential identifiers.

John Ringo
Robert Silverberg
Steven Brust
George RR Martin
Mike Resnick
Chuck Wendig

More follows.
— Ann Aguirre (@MsAnnAguirre) June 25, 2020

Looks like this twitter account is gone.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 26 June 2020 20:25 (six days ago) link

Whoa, yeah. It's gone. Seems... odd... for that to just disappear.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2020 20:31 (six days ago) link

Nothing just vanishes on the internet.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 20:35 (six days ago) link

No, I just mean for it to go from collecting DMs from women who have experienced harassment at cons to being deleted several hours later seems... suspect.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2020 20:37 (six days ago) link

Seeing a couple people on Twitter claiming they heard from her offline and the abuse she was getting in her DMs was so awful she deactivated her account.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2020 20:41 (six days ago) link

Sadly makes sense

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:58 (five days ago) link

i thought this was going to be about nick flynn

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 02:18 (five days ago) link

I read that essay about Flynn and couldnt really spot where the abuse and grooming was supposed to be.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 27 June 2020 02:53 (five days ago) link

ooh, go tweet some people about that, i dare you

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:30 (five days ago) link

Lol no thanks. someone else did tho

What a galaxy-brain take. When she uses the term "grooming" she's describing a dinner date and the offer to read over her poems. the essay describes a man who is narcissistic and inconsiderate at worst. The idea that abuse occurred is so far reaching

— Helena Duncan (@helena_duncan_) June 26, 2020

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:49 (five days ago) link

xpost to Aimless: Oh, you're absolutely right, but part of what I was bemoaning is the fact that the small handful of Black writers who do get published by more visible presses are seen as monolithic and entirely representative of what Black writers can do and are doing, a truly tokenizing brain worm that infects even people who should know better.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:16 (five days ago) link

James Baldwin noted the same tokenizing phenomenon long ago. In the USA it seems even worse for Native American writers than for Blacks.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:23 (five days ago) link

*sigh*. Yes, I guess I just find its continuation rather disappointing.

As as far as indigenous writers in the US, I think that is changing a bit more, but I'm also in touch with a lot of Indigenous writers because it's one of my main research and personal interests, so my view is probably skewed.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:28 (five days ago) link

Speaking of Canlit clusterfucks & Benaway, Hal Niedzviecki has taken to Quillette to decry mob rule and cancel culture

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 28 June 2020 18:44 (four days ago) link

mob rule? heavens!

which institutions of legal governance are being overruled here? the NBCC? goodness me! did they do something forbidden by their charter and bylaws?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 28 June 2020 18:54 (four days ago) link

thwarted the will of the people of the republic of letters, who should revolt and install a new government

j., Sunday, 28 June 2020 18:55 (four days ago) link


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