thread for the movie JACK REACHER (cruise, pike, herzog, duvall, dir. christopher mcquarrie)

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its fucken badass, peace

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 14:32 (six years ago) link

remnants of these books will be all that remain when the ashes of america are combed over by the cockroach-lizards, and it will be enough, quite enough

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 14:35 (six years ago) link

Child also said, "Reacher's size in the books is a metaphor for an unstoppable force, which Cruise portrays in his own way."[5] Of Cruise's relatively small stature, Child said, "With another actor you might get 100% of the height but only 90% of Reacher. With Tom, you'll get 100% of Reacher with 90% of the height."[6]

乒乓, Sunday, 23 December 2012 14:56 (six years ago) link

hell yeah. 100% reacher baby.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 14:58 (six years ago) link

Reacher is 6' 5" tall (1.96m) with a 50-inch chest, and weighing between 210 and 250 pounds (100–115 kg). He has ice-blue eyes and dirty blond hair. He has very little body fat, and his muscular physique is completely natural (he reveals in Persuader, he has never been an exercise enthusiast).

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:07 (six years ago) link

stoked 2 c

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:07 (six years ago) link

reviews are shitty, H4A likes it, done

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:11 (six years ago) link

i have free tix for this, will take mother in law (she loves the books)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:21 (six years ago) link

i like cruise in action movies, have a feeling this will be good

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:22 (six years ago) link

i hear that a lot of Reacher die-hards are pissed that cruise is in this, but they should get over it because he rules in it!

for anyone who's interested in this kind of thing, this is a really awesome man movie/procedural with some of the best action scenes ive seen in years (in particular, the best shootout I've seen probably since No Country For Old Men). the reacher character is totally ridiculous, but the movie knows it and has fun with it. if i have any gripes, it's that it's not rated R and that werner herzog could've used another monologue or two.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:25 (six years ago) link

reviews are shitty, H4A likes it, will probably see it

packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:26 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/LmdJ1.jpg

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:28 (six years ago) link

h4a seal of approval

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:39 (six years ago) link

interest in this declined a bit when it got a 12A certificate otherwise i'd've been up for it cos i don't give a fuck about the books

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:01 (six years ago) link

My first thought when I saw the trailer was "if this was rated R and starred Jason Statham, I'd be totally on board." Even with Cruise, if it was rated R, I'd still be in. I've read a few of the Reacher books and they're goofy as hell - one step above Mack Bolan novels. But the utterly cold-eyed brutality of the Reacher character is somewhat interesting, so I could see it working. I'll probably catch up to this when it hits Amazon Video.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:17 (six years ago) link

i'll be seeing this, no prob with cruise as lil reacher

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:17 (six years ago) link

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59895

This is the dumbest and most poorly written review I've ever read, so I at least can thank Jack Reacher for that.

this will surprise many (Nicole), Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:31 (six years ago) link

Holy fuck, that was junior-high-school-newspaper level bad writing. The first paragraph almost made my eyes bleed.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:52 (six years ago) link

i love the books! who knew? i never ever read anything like the lee child books. but they are totally addictive. lil' man is the dumbest thing ever. but even though i hate the cruise i would watch on netflix. i think the books are actually really well-written for the genre. he does minimal so well. they are like 3 steps above mack bolan stuff.

statham would have been an improvement. my dad and i thought someone like liam neeson would have been perfect but he's too old. and after watching the walking dead this year i thought this guy would have been perfect:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/David-Morrissey-The-Governor-The-Walking-Dead-AMC.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:53 (six years ago) link

i got given a copy of the reacher book the movie is based on. looking forward to reading it - wasnt child involved with the prime suspect tv series at some point iirc?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:01 (six years ago) link

i know he worked in t.v. but i don't know what he did. makes sense though.

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:17 (six years ago) link

i liked his new york times thing a few weeks back.


http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/a-simple-way-to-create-suspense/

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:18 (six years ago) link

Grant joined Granada Television, part of the UK's ITV Network, in Manchester as a presentation director. There he was involved with shows including Brideshead Revisited, The Jewel in the Crown, Prime Suspect, and Cracker. Grant was involved in the transmission of more than 40,000 hours of programming for Granada, writing thousands of commercials, news stories, and trailers.[9] He stayed with Granada 1977-1995[4] and ended his career there with two years as a trade union shop steward.[10]

After being let go from his job because of corporate restructuring, he decided he wanted to start writing novels, stating they are "the purest form of entertainment."[11] In 1997, his first novel, Killing Floor, was published and he moved to the United States in the summer of 1998.[7]

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:27 (six years ago) link

Cruise is really f'n funny when he does the Sherlock Holmes routine. The rest of the movie is nothing that wasn't done better in the NRA "press conference" last week.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:35 (six years ago) link

reacher books are waaaaaaaaaay into guns. fetishistically. makes and models and everything about them. reacher is an expert. so your mileage may vary as the kids like to say. doesn't bother me. i'm a fiction fan, not a gun fan. i like horror movies too.

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:38 (six years ago) link

you know he doesn't make a big deal about it or anything but reacher WAS the only non-marine to ever win the elite marine sniper competition in the history of the competition. hahaha! i love those books....

scott seward, Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:40 (six years ago) link

killing floor would make a brilliant movie

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:44 (six years ago) link

i think christopher ecclestone in '28 days later' mode woulda made a good reacher

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 17:46 (six years ago) link

mmm ecclestone

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:00 (six years ago) link

H4A OTM.

This was pretty entertaining, believe it or not.

fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:22 (six years ago) link

it's sorta like 'a few good men' with way more assbeatings and car chases

my spidey sense told me it would own because of mcquarrie. way of the gun wasn't a great movie, but the filmmaking approach pushed all my buttons - patient and methodical with a wry, nasty sense of humor and some great visual storytelling moments. that sensibility mostly survives his mainstream debut intact, though obviously JR isn't as bloody or profane as WOTG.

statham would have been an improvement. my dad and i thought someone like liam neeson would have been perfect but he's too old. and after watching the walking dead this year i thought this guy would have been perfect:

noooo, no britishes playing this american he-man. it'd be like burt reynolds as james bond

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:30 (six years ago) link

'way of the gun' was a pretty tight flick, definitely imo better than 'the usual suspects'. super-controlled and methodical, otm, reminded me of johnnie to's 'the mission' a bit.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:38 (six years ago) link

mcquarrie has his flaws but he's one of those guys who really seems to "get it" and operates within a particular method so well. his own directorial work (based on the single film i've seen, tbqh) is better than his writing for other folks.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:39 (six years ago) link

reacher is german iirc? or quite a bit german

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:40 (six years ago) link

i tried watching WotG once but the opening 20 mins felt so deliberately pretentious I couldn't stand it

maybe I will give it another try

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:00 (six years ago) link

super-controlled and methodical, otm, reminded me of johnnie to's 'the mission' a bit.

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, December 23, 2012 5:38 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sold

乒乓, Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:03 (six years ago) link

"noooo, no britishes playing this american he-man. it'd be like burt reynolds as james bond"

britishers play americans better than americans.

"reacher is german iirc? or quite a bit german"

his mom was french. but the whole nomad thing comes about sfter he leaves the army cuz he wants to see america after living overseas his whole life. (his dad was a career soldier overseas and then he spent 20 years in the army overseas)

scott seward, Monday, 24 December 2012 00:07 (six years ago) link

ya he was in germany as a kid, is what i'm sayin tho

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Monday, 24 December 2012 00:09 (six years ago) link

reviews are shitty, it consumed Newt Gingrich's full attention at the cinema, done

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Monday, 24 December 2012 00:12 (six years ago) link

i borrowed this richard brautigan anthology once & on the back there was this quote from a guy from the nyt book review saying "these books are fun to read" & it just seemed like such an impossibly childlike & pure appreciation for a cultural text, one so slight it was hard to imagine someone who reviews books using it to proffer an endorsement, & i didn't think it could be topped until i imagined newt in a suit & tie with a bag of popcorn on his lap, smiling glassily with his head almost uncomfortably raised, like a ventriloquist's dummy, the reflected light of the screen casting dancing shadows on the soft curves of his face, never thinking about anything other than jack reacher for a whole movie

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Monday, 24 December 2012 00:16 (six years ago) link

yeah im with you omar. i dont much like Usual Suspects either, but i think of it as a "cold shot" for his shit to come (little ref to the motion picture Jack Reacher, based on the book Jack Reacher, for u guys)

VG - it probably does come off as somewhat affected these days. i havent seen it in a long time. i think theres some good stuff in there if you stick with it though

darragh hes half-french, half-american, 100% reacher. iirc.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 24 December 2012 00:34 (six years ago) link

jack reacher, cosmopolitan

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:16 (six years ago) link

raised a child of the world

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:18 (six years ago) link

half frog, half yank...all man

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:21 (six years ago) link

called frank

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:27 (six years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:38 (six years ago) link

he feels like he doesn't know his country very well. so he's gonna kill his way through it and see the sites. it's pretty poetic.

scott seward, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:25 (six years ago) link

Ugh, this movie. Almost didn't make it through to the end. Not much fun seeing a guy who is always the smartest and strongest in the room. (And I'm a fan of Haywire, Parker novels, etc.)

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Monday, 24 December 2012 03:57 (six years ago) link

a reader of the books suggested Alexander Skarsgaard

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 December 2012 04:22 (six years ago) link

yeah the books are super trashy

the descriptions of women’s clothing in particular were very 80’s playboy fantasy iirc (unless i’m mixing it up with some other author)

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:47 (eight months ago) link

id have said they have a lot in common with straight-to-video mid 90s churn, insofar as a book can have production values

topical mlady (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:51 (eight months ago) link

I've read a couple of these -- my first thought was he's a 21st C Travis McGee, but the comparison fell apart after "they're both tall."

The Non-Verbal Signs Your Mod Is Giving You (WmC), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:54 (eight months ago) link

when you've got movies like tom cruise in them you can't lose!

zwei dunkel jungen (crüt), Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:18 (eight months ago) link

Voting for Jeff Garlin.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:27 (eight months ago) link

The tv version casting can’t be any weirder than John Krazinski aka Jim from the Office as Jack Ryan in that Tom Clancy Amazon thing

I mean, based on that we could end up with Michael Cera, who tf knows

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:17 (eight months ago) link

That Jack Ryan thing was pretty good. Of course, I only ever saw about five minutes of The Office (US version) and hated it, so I had no cognitive dissonance happening.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:19 (eight months ago) link

Heh, Zach Braff IS

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:20 (eight months ago) link

goldblum

topical mlady (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:20 (eight months ago) link

streep

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:13 (eight months ago) link

I could see Bradley Cooper, I guess. I mean, moreso than Paul Dano or Jesse Eisenberg

rip van wanko, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:19 (eight months ago) link

eurgh

josh brolin a few years ago mebbes

Effectively Big Jim with a beard. (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:26 (eight months ago) link

Skeet Ulrich

louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:31 (eight months ago) link

Frank Spencer

calzino, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:35 (eight months ago) link

Bradley Wiggins

calzino, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:37 (eight months ago) link

Michael Cera

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:37 (eight months ago) link

we watched a ton of The Office, so the Jack Ryan tv show very quickly became known as "Jim Goes To Yemen" in our house

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:00 (eight months ago) link

it got better as it went along, but at first it felt kinda terrible
then again a lot of Clancy is kinda that way for me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:01 (eight months ago) link

Jim Krasinski was also in that shit Benghazi flick

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:03 (eight months ago) link

WmC otm re Jack Reacher and Travis McGee:

non-conformist lifestyle requiring frequent travel
intuitive with flashes of deductive genius
100% survival rate in homicidal hand-to-hand combat
experienced in dismantling criminal conspiracies without due process
attractive and helpful to women but poor at long-term relationships

Brad C., Monday, 14 January 2019 00:35 (eight months ago) link

btw McQuarrie now signed on to make another two Missions b2b, making seven Cruise vehicles in a row for him (and ten total)

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 00:36 (eight months ago) link

hes a good handler for the lil fella

topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 00:37 (eight months ago) link

yeah this feels like good news

maybe one day they’ll give McQuarrie a Bond film?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 03:42 (eight months ago) link

i mean, once he’s released from Cruise servitude

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 03:43 (eight months ago) link

gotta keep Tom busy to keep him out of trouble and not making public comments about scientology

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 04:15 (eight months ago) link

true

praise xenu for mcquarrie’s service

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 04:43 (eight months ago) link

maybe one day they’ll give McQuarrie a Bond film?

since they replaced the Hodge / Boyle script for the next one with the regular hacks, I can’t see the reins being handed on purpose to someone who’s good at both action & franchise management

also the Bonds suck so much now that it would be a step down for him. if Chris Morgan ever feels like opening up his solo credit on the already room-written Fasts though, McQuarrie’s gift for combining multiple setpieces, twist reveals & clear emotional throughlines should sell itself to Vin easily

(though one suspects McQ couldn’t hack working with him on a second one)

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 08:35 (eight months ago) link

would it kill u to let me dream

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 14:57 (eight months ago) link

Don't hurt me but I'd love to see a Russell T Davies Bond

Which is to say, I like McQuarrie and the IM films, but he's not kinky enough for Bond

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 15:21 (eight months ago) link

jesus christ

topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 15:42 (eight months ago) link

i've "seen" reacher 2 three times because i watched it in earnest once, and then put it on so that i could fall asleep on the couch a couple times

it's an action movie so rote and uneventful that if i pay attention to it, i fall asleep within the first half hour

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 15:48 (eight months ago) link

RTD Bond starring Hugh Grant. (He can fuck Whishaw again.)

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:23 (eight months ago) link

i feel queasy

MODS

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 21:42 (eight months ago) link

a russell t davies bond u say

i think i need to lie down

Effectively Big Jim with a beard. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 21:50 (eight months ago) link

ALL of the leads of The Inbetweeners play bad guys this time

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:03 (eight months ago) link

Barrowman = Felix Leiter, obvs, and then Geoffrey Wright can be Bond. In the next movie everyone swaps roles again.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:11 (eight months ago) link

Barrowman =

OK I'm out again

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:18 (eight months ago) link

Reacher 1 is better than any post-Casino Royale Bond flick, why sully this thread by bringing up a recently inferior franchise.

omar little, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:41 (eight months ago) link

I haven't read the books but the Reacher movies do understand that we don't need to know a whole lot about Jack Reacher, which is overall an excellent stance

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:45 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

Put in JR1 tonight and couldn’t believe how boring it was, turned it off 50min in after there had been one (1) brief fist fight and 49.5min of Tom Cruise trying to solve a fuckin mystery, idgaf just punch ppl already.

That being said, the “I was sandy... last week at the beach” is truly one of the greatest dumb clunker lines in movie history, Wiseau-level genius. Very curious if that diamond was in the book or if Oscar-winning screenwriter McQ came up with it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 9 September 2019 00:58 (one week ago) link

McQuarrie also came on MI: Ghost Protocol midway through production to rewrite & 2nd-chair direct

hold up, what now, how'd i miss this

Fight Club-era Holt McCallany would be a good J-Reach.

omar little, Monday, 9 September 2019 01:03 (one week ago) link

Had no idea McQuarrie worked on Ghost Protocol. I just watched that tonight because I bought a Blu-Ray set of the first 5 M:I movies for $20 at Target. To me it felt absolutely like a Brad Bird movie: you could have animated every scene (especially the car chase through the sandstorm, using tracking devices) and put the Incredibles in and it would have worked just as well. And even the way the camera swept around the hotel room in Dubai was 100% Bird to me.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 01:31 (one week ago) link

Yeah the movie is not v good. I watched it and Hanna last week and Hanna is so much fun

fremmes with neppavenettes (rip van wanko), Monday, 9 September 2019 01:58 (one week ago) link

Oh yeah I loved Hanna. I coincidentally put on Ghost Protocol after I switched Reacher off and it hugely satisfied.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 9 September 2019 02:07 (one week ago) link

I own Hanna on DVD and could probably watch that once a week. That movie rules.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 02:28 (one week ago) link

hold up, what now, how'd i miss this

I think it was secret until McQuarrie was doing press for Fallout - he doesn't fess up about his rewrite jobs, but Cruise had outed him so he was fine with going into details on one or two of the huge podcast interviews he did. IIRC he came on for a few weeks, some months into the shoot, & was restricted from writing reshoots on anything already in the can, but saw the locations and set designs for everything they hadn't gotten to. Within that he rewrote the Jeremy Renner character totally, threw out Bird's JJ Abrams-style mystery plot, changed the outcome of Michelle Monaghan's character, shot a load of second-unit action stuff to make the big UAE setpieces feed back into a new ending, and went off to another job.

(*I think it was in the six-hour Empire interview, but it's been taken off soundcloud, so yr on yr own)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 9 September 2019 04:36 (one week ago) link

On Ghost Protocol I came in on the middle of the shoot to do a rewrite of the screenplay, though they had already started the movie. I had to communicate with the entire staff to determine what I could and couldn't change, what sets had been built or struck, what scenes I could or couldn't reshoot. I learned so much about production being right there. ... The script had these fantastic sequences in it but there was a mystery in it that was very complicated. What I did was about clarity. The mystery had to be made simpler. It's like reaching into a sock and pulling it inside out. It's still a sock, still all the same pieces, but all put together in a different order.

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:43 (one week ago) link

Always se bullet. I don't understand.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:50 (one week ago) link

quoted that because of the sock analogy, of course

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:21 (one week ago) link


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