I mean yeah you can't like hide all your assets in bitcorn while you're going through a divorce and it's still illegal to scam people but I don't think market manipulation stuff is against the law, it's kind of the one thing bitcoins are really good for
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link
it most certainly is against the law to manipulate the markets... whatever that means
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
Tell that to the farmers in my town! Every third Saturday, what the hell is that?
― pplains, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
i will tell them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
Thanks to @YIMBY_Princeton for inspiring me to check in on the Tesla forums, this Model Y trim discoloration (apparently caused by touchless car washes) is another classic. https://t.co/HhAaqK4U8l pic.twitter.com/zHbN7eij3k— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
$TSLA - @elonmusk, you need to get to precision within inches first before you even attempt centimeters.#bitcoin #BTC https://t.co/duPnkKBeqs pic.twitter.com/WZyHzO6dHC— phoenix10 (smartish) (@phoennix10) May 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Hn04JBH.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
how many other value analysts do you think there are?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
I already answered your question.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
The author posted this video in the comments. It's a truck full of traffic lights. pic.twitter.com/h2LwyL65ck— FSD in 6 months (@FSD_in_6m) June 2, 2021
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
"President Musk says his invasion of Iran is justified, as their leader is hiding a secret program to develop trucks full of traffic lights"
― bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
At least they weren't driving behind this dude:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/80/ab/be80ab95c0cfe1630be6c520ccaadf67.png
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link
Karl please replace the stoplights in that video with little icons of Doof Warriors.
― DJI, Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
I have to say, there's an amazingly huge difference between how these cars look when they drive by you (sleek, great!) and how they look/feel when you sit in them (plasticky, cheap)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
i think lag000n comparing the model 3 to a nissan was about right.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
I actually had a long conversation with a Tesla-owning acquaintance over the weekend, and he loves his car. If there's any real criticism he has, or at least conceded, it's that the car components are indeed pretty cheap compared to similarly priced luxury cars. There were one or two other little things that bugged him, too, but he was otherwise really positive about the last year and a half of Tesla ownership. I still think that the biggest game changers are not the design/car, per se, but features that could be implemented by competitors for a lower price some time in the near future. He said he felt comfortable being part of what he considers an experiment. He professed not to be a Musk sycophant, fwiw, but he thinks the guy is a Jobs like genius. Which I guess tracks, as Jobs was an asshole weirdo, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link
please don't mock my former upstairs neighbour
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
dang xpost, Steve Jobs did not live above me
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
Now into CumRocket coins
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
He professed not to be a Musk sycophant, fwiw, but he thinks the guy is a Jobs like genius
hopefully musk has similar thoughts on personal health care
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link
Now we have No Jobs, No Hope, and No Musk
― eisimpleir (crüt), Saturday, 5 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, I could easily see myself buying a car from Tesla, and I don't think Elon Musk is some kind of genius, I just think the engineers who designed the car are by most accounts good at designing functional cars and it has features that appeal to me enough that the "look and feel" deficits don't bother me too much (if they did, I wouldn't be driving a beater now)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
what about being locked inside a burning car because the locks stop working? that seems like kind of a dealbreaker to me idk
― sleeve, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
tbf, you could accomplish this in any car by engaging child safety locks, getting in the front and starting the car, putting a brick on the gas pedal, and hopping in the back
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
maybe you can't even open a tesla's rear doors by opening the window and using the exterior handle, though
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link
yeah I think Teslas are for the most part good cars, but I'm not sure what if anything Elon has to do with that, virtually every idea he's ever had for Tesla has either never came to fruition or has been incredibly dumb
― frogbs, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
He once had an idea that Tesla's stock price should be higher -- that sure came to fruition.
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
I used to have this same issue about cars with no manual window handles -- what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go, it's just not a big enough sliver of probability to affect my car purchase.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link
I just think the engineers who designed the car are by most accounts good at designing functional cars
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, June 7, 2021 4:18 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
they are by the measure of average number of defects exceptionally bad cars fwiw, idk if thats the engineers fault tho
― lag∞n, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
Guayaquil (eephus!) at 4:03 7 Jun 21what about being locked inside a burning car because the locks stop working? that seems like kind of a dealbreaker to me idkI used to have this same issue about cars with no manual window handles -- what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go, it's just not a big enough sliver of probability to affect my car purchase.probably worth noting that Teslas catching on fire is incredibly common compared to other vehicles
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link
probably worth noting that Teslas catching on fire is incredibly common compared to other vehicles― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 7, 2021 2:36 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 7, 2021 2:36 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this isn't backed up by any data I've seen
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
yeah tbf i don't think that's true. they share the same danger as all EVs: if a fire starts it's incredibly hard to put out.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
key difference seems to be how hard it is to *get* out
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
^^^
― sleeve, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link
also:
― lag∞n, Monday, June 7, 2021 2:27 PM (six hours ago)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link
oh of course. if they catch fire you definitely die a terrifying death, a death that doesn't happen in other cars, and the software is buggy. but tbf they don't catch fire more than other cars.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
Hopefully it is possible to improve upon the baseline of 30-50k traffic deaths per year in the US
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link
https://fortune.com/2021/06/18/a-new-report-highlights-the-incredibly-high-environmental-cost-of-teslas-bitcoin-investment/
In 2020, Tesla delivered 181,000 vehicles. You could argue that its romance with Bitcoin erased the environmental benefits from more than 7,000 of those EVs. De Vries says that if a buyer purchases a Tesla by making payments over 48 months in Bitcoin, the carbon footprint of the Bitcoin transactions would exceed the total lifetime emissions savings from driving an EV instead of a gasoline-powered car.
They note that Bitcoin mining consumes almost as much energy as all the the world's data centers combined, and produces CO2 emissions that match the carbon footprint for the city of London. The paper estimates that Bitcoin generates 90.2 million metric tons of carbon gases per year. That volume exceeds by almost two times the total annual reductions achieved by the replacement of gasoline-burning cars by electric vehicles, as calculated by the International Energy Agency.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 20 June 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link
jfc. if true, the inventors of bitcoin should be taken before the Hague. like essentially we're talking Captain Planet villain level "I've built the world's greatest POLLUTION MACHINE" level accomplishments.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link
at least Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency that has any environmental impact, and the rest are all green
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link
If you were me and I were you, I'd tell you how not all currency is green.
― pplains, Monday, 21 June 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link
It's not easy being me or green
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link
Ugh, libertarian bitcoin bros are all over Twitter (as well as Reddit etc). Basically the dudes who used to desperately argue that tort law would save the planet, now they've just settled on making hollow claims that their pet ponzi scheme isn't "technically" an environmental catastrophe.
For me Musk pulling Tesla plants out of CA and moving them to TX would be a deal-breaker but apparently that's not enough for my brother. I am seriously thinking it's getting close to the time when we should boycott entire states.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 21 June 2021 06:05 (two years ago) link
what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go
FWIW, there was a case a few years back where I live, where an Audi SUV slipped into water and the controls for the doors and windows shorted out. The vehicle took a few minutes to sink and the four people trapped inside drowned, slowly. Two of them were kids. It really brought home to me that that's not the way I want to go.
― I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
if you drive a newish car (i.e. a shitty IOT gadget on wheels) then i recommend putting these in glovebox/armest/keyring https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0042VTYXM
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
These dudes (I mean, c'mon, that's 99% of the ones I've seen) are everywhere. The latest twist seems to be arguing that we are constantly on the verge of the tipping point where somehow all of the energy used to mine bitcoins is going to magically disappear because of.... something. This is the part where their tweets consistently become more vague.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
what's an IOT gadget?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
internet of things, see https://twitter.com/internetofshit
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
The latest twist seems to be arguing that we are constantly on the verge of the tipping point where somehow all of the energy used to mine bitcoins is going to magically disappear because of.... something.
proof of stake. as opposed to "proof of work", which is how many cryptocurrencies work now. "proof of work" means rising energy use dedicated to solving complicated math problems. proof of stake is the magical thing that everyone working with etherium swears they very much care about and have definitely been focused on from the beginning.
proof of stake will apparently save everything because it will be a way to validate the blockchain more efficiently. how does it work?
HOW DOES ETHEREUM'S PROOF-OF-STAKE WORK?Unlike proof-of-work, validators don't need to use significant amounts of computational power because they're selected at random and aren't competing. They don't need to mine blocks; they just need to create blocks when chosen and validate proposed blocks when they're not. This validation is known as attesting. You can think of attesting as saying "this block looks good to me." Validators get rewards for proposing new blocks and for attesting to ones they've seen.If you attest to malicious blocks, you lose your stake.PROSStaking makes it easier for you to run a node. It doesn't require huge investments in hardware or energy, and if you don't have enough ETH to stake, you can join staking pools. It allows for increased participation, and more nodes doesn't mean increased % returns, like with mining. Staking allows for secure sharding. Shard chains allow Ethereum to create multiple blocks at the same time, increasing transaction throughput. Sharding the network in a proof-of-work system would simply lower the power needed to compromise a portion of the network. CONSProof-of-stake is still in its infancy, and less battle-tested, compared to proof-of-work. Staking is more decentralized.
If you attest to malicious blocks, you lose your stake.
PROSStaking makes it easier for you to run a node. It doesn't require huge investments in hardware or energy, and if you don't have enough ETH to stake, you can join staking pools. It allows for increased participation, and more nodes doesn't mean increased % returns, like with mining. Staking allows for secure sharding. Shard chains allow Ethereum to create multiple blocks at the same time, increasing transaction throughput. Sharding the network in a proof-of-work system would simply lower the power needed to compromise a portion of the network.
CONSProof-of-stake is still in its infancy, and less battle-tested, compared to proof-of-work. Staking is more decentralized.
the only con is that it doesn't work yet and that the vast majority of cryptofucks don't give a shit about the efficiency and never will. that's Proof of Stake
― Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link
yeah, they're going to build up a crypto-ecosystem based on millions of pieces of shit buying expensive mining equipment and dedicating themselves to this task and community for about a decade, and then suddenly they're going to shift away from that and calmly explain to the very worst people on earth that their mining equipment no longer works for ethereum (which will probably cause them to repurpose the expensive pointless electricity hogs for some other similar person, or throw it in a gas station trash can rather than recycling it)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link