meta discussion: the number and purpose of American politics threads on ilx

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This has been bugging me and, I think, others too.

Do we have to many of these things? Can we come to some kind of agreement to keep things tidy? Or is the proliferation of threads a good thing?

We currently have (in my understanding)

A "US politics" thread for general political happenings (not directly election related, now?)
An "election" thread for the presidential contest, which tends to suck in all the other electoral and political news anyway.
A spare election thread because people hated the morbsy title of the current one
Dedicated debate livebloggin threads that inevitably pull in all the run-up and post-mortems
A "scared of romney winning" thread, self evident but a bit pointless imo
A "right wing craziness" thread, which I started for real whacko internet stuff and not for elected Republicans
An "NRO Corner" thread for the fine writers of that publication

various other legacy political threads, 'conservatives you like,' media stuff, gabbneb remnants

What do we do with all this shit? Should I relax and let consensus take its course. My opinion is we need to cut down or at least keep them clear. thanks! ~goole

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe we need a US politics board!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

What do we do with all this shit?

wait a month, and then the election thread(s), debate, and I'm Scurred of Romney Winning thread will go away. right wing craziness will never go away.

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost

i'm also down with mh's suggestion

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

no, i don't like mh's idea

agh, i meant *too in the first post, obv

xp to ZS yeah but in this last crazy month having some clarity would help discussion!

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

if anything adding a board will increase the total # of threads that most people will see on SNA

we clearly have too many atm but it's not some crazy crisis, maybe even nice that you can have more convs going than normal, even if they aren't well organized

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i'll take 5 threads devoted to us election over 9 threads devoted to the voices in wcc's head anyday

balls, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

you guys obviously don't comprehend the full utility of removing boards from the SNA page and only visiting them when you aren't depressed. if all the politics stuff was on its own board, then I would see ~zero~ politics threads by default and I could choose to go and participate with a clear head

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

what if, in the spirit of crazy right wing bullshit, i make all of you sign a pledge that we can only add a new politics board if we agree to remove one of the existing boards? this excess has to stop at some point, enough is enough, now is the time to set our nation on a sustainable path.

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

balls even granting that premise, you have the 5 and the 9 together so what's the diff there

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess a better analog to the norquist pledge would be no more adding boards ever, only subtracting them, but work with me here

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

sure, add a politics board and remove Moderator Request Forum

:)

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

or the 128 threads devoted to sitcoms or the 624 threads devoted to movies based on comic books or the 10237 meta threads

balls, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

we have an i love film and and i love books and people still talk about movies and books on ilx, a sub board doesn't segregate anything really. politics is an unruly enough subject that people won't abide, i don't think. and what do you do about all the legacy threads that get bumped? i don't want to move them all, fuck that.

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I think we have to look at the threads as a short-term stimulus package that can be removed when the ilx economy is stronger

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

with goole the Paul Ryan who asks for stimulus dough for his district

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah this is pretty frustrating. imo this is how it should be:

- a single horserace thread that encompasses the daily goings-on of the campaigns and also covers the debates and the chatter surrounding them. because the debates and their fallout are directly related to the horseracey stuff, i don't see why we need separate threads. so, one thread for all the election stuff - after a certain number of posts or obvious milestones, these can be locked and new ones started, with numbers in the title to help keep them straight and links in the first post for continuity.

- a single non-election national politics thread like we've been doing for years. this is actually going fine except there was some confusion when dan started what was supposed to be a new horserace thread but put "politics" in the title. the one aero started is pretty huge/old so maybe lock both and start a new politics thread with a better title

- agree on the "scared of romney winning" being unnecessary. back when obama looked like a lock it was more of a place for people who didn't really keep up with the news to go and vent or whatever but recently there's been a lot of overlap between that and the general election thread. suggest nixing this one

- don't really care about the lol/right-wing threads but appreciate it being kept out of the politics threads, so would continue these as is

jon and kate catch h8 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

otm, I will believe goole when he suggests we delete the right-wing craziness thread but until then he is not a credible ilx conservative xp

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

it is truly in the spirit of us politics that facing the problem of too many politics threads goole started another thread

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ 'hey these other sub boards have failed at every measure they were attempting, let's do it for us politics'

balls, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe we should agree to roll a general thread weekly like ILNFL

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:10 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe you're an idiot

balls, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

excuse me?

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

now its a meta thread

bnw, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

jeez balls

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

meta discussion: the number and purpose of meta threads on ilx

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe there should be a separate board for balls to be a dick to ppl

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

That escalated quickly!

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe we need a meta-ilx board to discuss these things

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

- 8th grade
- gym
- boys vs. balls wiffleball
- playing in the field
- coach turns around toward the boys in the field, rubs the wiffleball on his crotch and says "CHEEEEEEEEZE BALL!!!" whilst making uncomfortably prolonged eye contact with me

sorry, that just came to mind after typing "jeez balls"

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

well all right then

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

the electoral college tie will really get the ball rolling

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

we gotta get on the ball

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

again the benefit of multiple threads is you get multiple discussions at once, and it's pretty clear that there is enough demand for political blather at this point for multiple discussions at once to be a good idea. I think organizing the threads makes sense when you have people posting links and bumping old threads, but in general if people are talking about stuff then 'the message board is working', who cares about how neat it looks.

xp to preclusterfuck

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry btw to everyone I confused because I couldn't remember the word "election"

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

- boys vs. balls wiffleball

that was supposed to be boys vs. girls but whatever, the same spirit prevails

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

x-post

Can't that thread title be changed or that thread locked?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:20 (six years ago) Permalink

this isn't really a permanent problem it's just that we had a perfect storm of that accident w the rollover of the campaign thread + the increase in political posts because of the election endgame anyway + that anomalous i'm-scared thread which is really part of point 2 i guess

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

but yeah it's lol

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:23 (six years ago) Permalink

ha ok well that's that then. iatee is probably right.

there is no dana, only (goole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:26 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

ye killed a good message board ye know that right

godfellaz (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 June 2019 23:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I ween ye nae got that right. the reasons for it are more garbled up than just the politics threads. tis the awful need of reading and writing that's more than the young bloods can stand.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 June 2019 23:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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