We got Ant-Man movie

November 2015, directed by Edgar Wright.

While we wait, enjoy the insanity of this old thread:

Hank "Ant Man" Pym in Marvel Comix Sex Scandal SHOCKA!

feige gettin' cocky now

remember when we all thought comic book movies would eventually go away

we were so young

"My my, hey hey comic book movies here to stay/ It's better to burn out than to forget your utility belt, Batman" - Neil Young

look out batman there's a killer croc comin up the river

Give it time.

remember when we all thought comic book movies would eventually go away

no one thought this

Comic book movies never have gone away and never will; they're just currently based on actual comic book characters.

I mean: http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=comicbookadaptation.htm

At which point were we supposed to think "oh I guess comic book adaptations aren't a thing anymore"?

i'm talking like, 2001, 2002

i may have been 14 but i certainly thought it was a fad

LOL at "Annie" having a higher lifetime gross than "Spawn" or "The Crow."

Almost immediately after superheroes rose to prominence in comic books, they were adapted into Saturday movie serials aimed at young children, starting with Adventures of Captain Marvel (1941). Serials such as Batman (1943), The Phantom (1943), Captain America (1944), and Superman (1948) followed.

i'm talking like, 2001, 2002

i may have been 14 but i certainly thought it was a fad

― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:55 (2 hours ago) Permalink

And it was covered like it was a fad by USA Today, EW, Time Magazine et al.

"could it get to the point where we might see a Watchmen movie someday?"

clearly zachylon was using the the royal "we" so lets move on

are they going to include pym in avengers 2?

I was being serious. It was thought to be a fad and covered like one.

The script has been written by Wright and Joe Cornish, who plan to include Henry Pym and Scott Lang as major characters, with Pym as Ant-Man in the 1960s in Tales to Astonish style, and a flashforward to Lang as Ant-Man's successor in modern day.

I don't really know much about Ant Man, but I will see this because I like everything Edgar Wright has done so far.

wright's been a little stuck in his "manchild proves self to woman in outlandish scenario" motif so i'm glad the plot doesn't blatantly feel like another rehash of that. also glad cornish is involved. attack the block was so good.

Henry Pym is one of the original Marvel assholes; he's had several mental breakdowns, including a chemically-induced alternate personality and severe delusions of inadequacy that devolved to the point where he smacked his wife for disagreeing that building a robot to attack the Avengers so that he could swoop in and save the day was a terrible idea.

He's lately been portrayed as a dude attempting to repair the shambles of his reputation and is therefore super white-knighty.

there's still another Pegg/Frost joint to come before this xpost

Henry Pym is one of the original Marvel assholes; he's had several mental breakdowns, including a chemically-induced alternate personality and severe delusions of inadequacy that devolved to the point where he smacked his wife for disagreeing that building a robot to attack the Avengers so that he could swoop in and save the day was a terrible idea.

thought you were talking about a real life person, maybe a Marvel executive, for most of this sentence and it confused me terribly when the robot part came up.

hahahahaha

"this could be a real guy, I think he's still talking about a real guy... -- okay, the Avengers, I was wrong

See, that's what it sounds like when I talk about DC's current output.

attack the block was so good.

I love this movie so much, it's on Starz all of the time now and I'm always tempted to watch it again.

oh it is? OnDemand too?

Henry Pym is one of the original Marvel assholes

there were like 200 issues of the avengers and years and years of ant man solo strips before jim shooter decided pym was a wifebeating asshole - before that he was yr typical marvel scientist-genius dude like reed richards (tho' yeah, he did change costumes/superhero identity a few times)

wait when did the Yellowjacket personality switch happen?

Yellowjacket appeared in 1968. Shooter might have made him a wife beater, but he made Ultron way back when and was generally unstable for roughly 15 years before beating up Janet.

yellowjacket switch was the result of a lab accident, and mental instability isn't necess the same thing as assholism, imho. i think it's the combo of 'original' and 'asshole' in djp's post that i'm quibbling w/, really - for at least the first seven or so years of his 'career' pym was a p straight-edge superhero type, is what i'm trying to say (and as the very first 'man in the anthill' story predates p much all other marvel heroes, he can claim to be the original original, which is maybe why i retain some affection for him as a character, and kind've hate the wifebeating plotline). no big deal, tho.

That's pretty much my recollection of him too -- generic superhero/scientist until Shooter threw that big deux ex machina into his personality. Englehart made him a bit more hotheaded iirc, but I don't remember any "wow, this guy's as unstable as the molecules in Ben Grimm's shorts"* moments.

*simultaneously proud of and appalled at myself

Regardless of what you think of the wife-beating plotline, Christos Cage has used Pym quite well in the current (though soon-to-be-cancelled, sadly) Avengers Academy book: the beating and Pym's mental problem aren't swept under the rug, but neither are they treated as his only defining traits, as some other writers have done in the past.

The asshole thing seemed to me a logical evolution of a dude with short man syndrome taking the overcompensation too far. Within the first few years of the Avengers he is overcompensating like nobody's business (Goliath, anyone?), and the mental instability and multiple personalities are nascent but obvious.

But it's no big deal, however we each see it. The wife-beating issue was one of the first handful of comics I ever bought, which probably colored my perception of him from the get-go. I'm likely reading the older stuff and seeing all the prior problems as logically leading to the character as I first remember him.

Pym in Avengers Academy is pretty great; comes across as someone who really wants to do good but clearly is driven by past mistakes

Def agree that it's p silly to be too invested in the 'true' character of a corporately owned comic bk character, and wld concede that w/out the slide into instability, he's a fairly undistinguished character (tho I liked the bantering hank-jan relationship that p much went by the wayside after the tales to astonish run finished)

So Feige is saying the usual cagey things about the next batch of movies and in particular:

Writer-director Edgar Wright has been developing the project since before the first Iron Man. “Frankly, now we have to re-write it to put it a little bit more into the [Marvel Cinematic Universe] because it was written before it existed,” Feige said.

Wright, who appeared last night at an EW CapeTown Film Festival double-screening of his movies Shaun of the Dead and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, also brought his test reel of an action sequence from the movie. In it, we get a clear example of how being small can still be a fearsome way to fight....

Shooting is set for next year, but they still need to cast the main character. “We’ve talked about various names over the past eight years but as you can imagine they keep changing as time goes by,” says Feige. “But towards the end of this year, we’ll buckle down and start casting and start refining the script, which is great and which is very Edgar. He has done a great job being incredibly true to the comics but is putting his own spin on it, so we’ll be drawing on multiple mythologies for this one.”

where is my George Clooney Dr. Strange movie goddammit

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath there.

http://kesseljunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/batmangeorgeclooney.jpg

would it help if we reassured him that Dr. Strange does not have nipples

That would be pretty ... strange if he didn't.

where is my George Clooney Dr. Strange movie goddammit

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, May 3, 2013 4:22 PM

I'd rather fantasize about directors on this one than actors.

clooney's too earthbound to play strange imo

If anyone's gonna be Dr. strange it should be - dare I say it? - FRANCO.

cillian murphy with stache imo

http://wpc.4d27.edgecastcdn.net/004D27/Editorial/CillianMurphyClash/Cillian+Murphy+Clash+2.jpg

Wasn't Patrick Dempsey lobbying for the part at some point?

i want a lil plush michael peña tbrr

Weak, weak. The traces of Wright that managed to survive the sausage making process make the rest of it even sadder. The funny parts weren't funny, the action parts weren't exciting, the MCU continuity scenes spliced in were clumsy as fuck. The only heat generated was between E. Lilly and M. Douglas, who both delivered legit "I love you, dad/daughter, but I'd be happy to kick you to death right here and now" vibes.

I hope marvelcorp ruthlessly kills on screen any movie headliner that manages to bomb at the box office

that first scene has to be the worst first scene i've ever seen in a comic book movie. don't you mention my wife again you so and so! he's not a threat unless we make him one....*MARVEL LOGO*...

ooh, riveting....

i mean it was enjoyable...but it is kinda funny how SMALL this movie felt.

also had no clue that that was Lost Kate until the movie was almost over. she could have been anyone.

also, so many people must have died in that huge explosion. there is no way they all got out of that building.

also, no way that cop was ant man's best friend showing him cartwheel video at the end.

also, more than one minute of sub-atomic land would have been nice.

^^Ant-Man, what the fuck is wrong with you?

this was pretty fun - i kinda enjoyed the smallness of it relative to the increasingly cosmic scale of other marvel movies, and some of the micro-scale action was genuinely inventive. for real though they need to stop making movies about industrialists fighting over control of powerful technology - it's beyond tired now.

wonder how long it'll be before details about how and why edgar wright was fired start to leak out. there are bits of this which still bear his stamp but, like wmc says, the mcu-shoehorn scenes are genuinely painful (poor michael pena having to play excited about the 'jumping, swinging, crawling on walls!' guy) and add nothing at all to the movie. even worse was the civil war setup after the credits - were they really trying to set up a whole new status quo for the marvel universe in like 45 seconds?

everyone seems pretty open that Wright walked, not was fired, over MCU-shoehorning of content and tone

the avengers-infiltration scene sticks out so badly it probably wouldn't be any less jarring if peyton reed showed up on screen beforehand and explained that agreeing to its inclusion was what won him the director's chair

it kinda weirded me out that, between this movie and interstellar, we've now had two movies in less than a year which feature climactic scenes where a father is trapped in some trippy dimension tied to his daughter's bedroom

So basically this sounds like an ep of Agents of SHIELD.

nah, the inventiveness of the tiny-world sequences alone raise it above that level. it's enjoyable, just kinda haunted by the ghost of edgar wright - I think even if you didn't know for sure going in that there was some serious rewriting going on it'd be easy enough to intuit it for yourself

everyone seems pretty open that Wright walked, not was fired, over MCU-shoehorning of content and tone

I'm not sure what the distinction is though, unless Marvel weren't that serious about the shoehorning and he over-reacted? I'm not saying that you're saying that's the case, just that's the only way I can see there being a difference between "fired by Marvel" and "walked because he didn't want to do what Marvel told him to".

okay i had to google edgar wright and yeah that would have been cool if he had directed this. would have been more madcap anyway. the bromedy madcap moments in this never really took off for me.

i still have never seen that scott pilgrim movie. i think for a long time i thought it was one of those garden state infinite playlist movies.

AF - they didn't want or set out to get rid of him, he totally could have stayed and made a compromised version if he'd chosen to; he preferred not to suddenly not make the film he'd been developing for years before the "MCU" was a thing.

Neil hamburger now part of the marvel cinematic universe. (!!!)

Agent Kington morelike

Garrett Morris cameo was a deep, deep in-joke. Can't imagine more than 5% of the audience got that.

xp right, but he surely had some communication or negotiation with the MCU, it wasn't a letter left on the sofa, there'd have been some "I'm uncomfortable with this" / "Well we'd rather you got comfortable with this".

??? There's a huge difference between walking away from a job and being fired from it!

This was totally fun and funny. Y'all crazy. My gf said this might've been her favorite of the Marvel movies so far. Absent the MCU tie-in scenes (which are nowhere near as incongruous as you guys are suggesting), this is a movie that I'm sure would appeal to a broad audience that might otherwise be unfamiliar with the MCU. And that might be disinclined to see a movie called Ant-Man.

A little boilerplate around the edges, but Rudd and Peña were great and most of the rest of the cast and bit players (Neil Hamburger! Avon Barksdale!) were solid, and most of the size changing set pieces were a blast and occasionally straight-up amazing. The audience I saw it with was way into it. I hope it gets some decent word of mouth.

i stand with old lunch

really enjoyed this, certainly more enjoyable than the last avengers film and more in line with the first Thor and Captain America films that stuck to a story and saw it through to the end without spending 75% of the time blowing the shit out of cities or something.

I liked this a lot! much more fun to have a low-key, less OTT superhero flick, that wasn't completely drenched in pathos for 140 minutes (yeah there were a few moments obv). MIchael Pena was hilarious (as was T.I.).

Bobby Cannavale "I did it for you" line at the end kinda comes from nowhere and is unintentionally funny given the way he's treated Lang for the first two hours but hey - I'm glad the final fight, instead of destroying all of a downtown metropolitan area, just destroyed the inside of a couple's house.

holy lols at the gigantic Tank Engine and spider too.

it was an ant, man

xpost were you high when you viewed Y/N bc there is no spider

Freudian slip.

This movie was fine. Didn't seem like there was a lot of thought/effort put into it, though. I was more blown away by the fact that this is the third mom Judy Greer has played this summer. Yeah, she's 40, but she must feel like Meryl Streep said she felt when one year every offer she got was for a witch role.

or like how Paul Giamatti feels when every offer he's gotten this year is a hated white music figure

not too badly done, though the guy's vocal impression is pretty poor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhuvfJPx0Mk

i loled!

yeah but how do you go to all that trouble and still get the voice so wrong

true of so many internet videos, sadly. It's like those (fantastic) "recut" trailers for the Shining ("Shining") and Jaws ("Must Love Jaws"). They're fucking brilliant in the edits, the music cues and the script, but the latter has a convincing "trailer voice" and the former sounds like someone doing an impression of a trailer voice. I figure it's just some goofball like me who hit on the idea and got excited and made it happen, can't ever really hold it against them for not also being a really talented voice actor.

yeah but phone a friend!

The voice clearly seemed a bit parodic and not necessarily meant to be a direct impression. Pretty good!

We got Ant-Man sequel. Via Marvel itself:

Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

can't help reading 'ant-man and the wasp' to the tune of 'bennie and the jets'

Loved this. Hilarious and fun Saturday afternoon flick.

Enjoyable enough, in a not really very funny way.

But Marvel really don't have any plot for their solo character movies than 'hero fights evil version of self', do they?

I enjoyed this quite a bit, and thought it was pretty funny. Suspect all the flashes of invention (of which there were plenty) were hangovers from Wright.

I liked how all it took for Scott's ex and her boyfriend to forgive him and reinstate him as a parent was for him to bring an armoured laser toting maniac and a giant ant into their daughter's bedroom.

Bobby Cannevale's "I did it for *you*" to Rudd a little on the homoerotic side in delivery

y did nobody mention martin donovan in this?!

Didnt recognise him Until the end credits, felt a bit silly

Michael Douglas, John Slatterly, and Martin Donovan together at last!

This was fine but it didnt earn any of its attempted emotional beats

Peña's closing monologue is insufficiently celebrated.

not by me. i want him to get his own movie tbqh

Peña stated that he modeled Luis' vocal style and positive outlook on life "on a friend of a friend", saying, "That's just the way he talks and the cadence. He's got this grin on the entire time and he doesn't care. He's the kind of guy where you're like 'Hey, what'd you do this weekend?' and he's like 'I went to jail, dawg,' with a smile on his face. Not a lot of people do that.

I love this

<3 pena is the best