Bringing Tavi Gevinson Over to ILE from I Love Style Because She'll Probably Be Famous

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this girl TAVI, this 13-year-old-or-so style blogging girl who is so funny!

Set to star in new Nicole Holofcener movie.

She's doing a book event at Frank Lloyd Wright's Unity Temple in Oak Park tonight, for a Rookie anthology. Might go.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

she's already pretty famous!

goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

But like famous famous.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

she's pretty famous!!

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know how famous she is, she is probably more famous than animal collective but less famous than emma stone

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

shes not famous

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

definitely not as famous as animal coalition! be srs

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

She's plenty famous. After all consider who she was ranked with when it came to winning the Internet.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

1 tavi = 1.7 ancos = .4 emmastones

Ye Mad Puffin, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

and i mean come on shell be burned out by the time shes 19

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

okay is she more or less famous than tao lin

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

more

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

two times as famous as tao lin or not that much more famous

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

Bet John Hamm doesn't know who Tao Lin is.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

http://rookiemag.com/2012/05/ask-a-grown-man-5/

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

two times as famous as tao lin

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Settle down, folks.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

and i mean come on shell be burned out by the time shes 19

idk i mean she seems to be pretty level-headed and grounded, esp for her age, maybe she'll move onto something less visible and she'll def mature beyond the sort of wunderkind accolades she's been getting but i don't think she'll "burn out"??

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

no elmo she will burn out trust me i know about these things

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

for instance how famous different non famous people are

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe Stevie will post his photo.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

If my parents and/or square sister know who you are, you are famous. Tavi is not famous.

kate78, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Most famous babysitter of an ILXor (if I remember correctly).

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

feel like prob 90% of people who know about her heard her interviewed on npr

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

guys the internet is huge! gangnam style!

goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

hasn't tavi gone on ellen or something

goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Tavi's pretty famous.

emil.y, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

fameish?

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

not a celebrity but still kinda niche famous

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

hasn't tavi gone on ellen or something

She was on Jimmy Fallon the other day, I think.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

She's a good person, smart, responsible, with a nice family (they live down the street a bit; I'm in Oak Park, too), so I have a hunch she's going to turn out great. I was talking to a friend about her, and my friend noted that she's made it pretty far without embarrassing herself. I agreed, but also noted how hard it is for a 13 year old to really embarrass themselves. That stuff comes later when they get older, start driving, start drinking, etc. But Tavi doesn't seem liable to go the screw-up route. She's unhitched herself from the fashion train a bit in no small part due to the skeez of the fashion industry, and she's made an effort to better integrate herself into standard high school stuff, I think. Just saw her Monday at Rosh Hashana services.

But yeah, anyway: she's had numerous magazine profiles, been on TV, wrote a book, founded a website, been featured in the NYTimes and had a feature on her in the New Yorker. If you don't think she's famous, you have very high fame standards.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

This interview was pretty awesome. She's super level headed, exceptionally honest with and about herself and with reasonable expectations.

http://www.bust.com/blog/tavi-gevinson-dishes-on-anna-wintour-feminism-and-her-plans-for-world-domination.html

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

is tao lin still a thing

skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

tavi is not 13 anymore

tao lin got a 'sizable advance' for his next novel which is coming out from a 'major publisher' -- god even talking about him it's easy to slip into aspects of his online schtick -- has had a couple of minor things about his personal life/online schtick become semi-'stories' -- also was somewhat referenced obliquely in the 'controversial' hbo tv series 'girls' -- (also, mumblecore)

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

btw this thread title still makes me go 'tavi started posting on i love style??'

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

Ha I know I thought that too

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

def p famous, her instagram is constantly spammed by teenage girls begging for shoutouts, its bizarre

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

she should send them chewed-up postcards

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

booooooo.

Considering how famous she is in her early teens, to other teens, I think she's likely to be present in public consciousness for my entire lifetime. If she doesn't make a move into a seriously entrepreneurial endeavour (I hope she doesn't) then she's probably already seen the height of her fame and that's just OK, I love her writing and she's totally awesome

a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

the recent malcolm in the middle reunion got me wondering if the kid celebrity burnout syndrome is bad enough that there's a culpability in even spectatorship, or if it's just a thing where only the worst cases make the spotlight and it's no worse than just normal kids who are good at something.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

i was into when she was on i love style, kind over it now

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

Jessica Hopper ‏@jesshopp
Keep thinking about how the 2 of biggest influences on teenz-culture right now are local: Chief Keef and Tavi.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

U FORGOT SKRILLEX

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

Ok now I gotta figure out wtf this chief keef character is. Been seeing his name nonstop for last 2 weeks. Some kind of rapper I guess.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

he is a teen who raps abt guns

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ok he has a single that hit #100? Gtfo with that influential stuff. I know, i know, real measure of teenz culture isn't billboard but the weird wild Internet.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

easily one of the fifty thousand most influential people w/teens

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

how hard it is for a 13 year old to really embarrass themselve

this is crazy i think! teenage embarrassment is way more linked to how embarrassing teenagers inherently are than just some goofy/drunken stuff they do. that she's so level headed & sage & smart, even out of a teenage context/standard - so ie she's a good interviewer, writer, &c - reps v well for her.

I love her writing and she's totally awesome

― a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:27 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

Jimmy Iovine's next big bet.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

she's not gonna wurtzel.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQG_3iUE694jGg2UPlaaS5-xtHrHvjaSf0dY6laXC-q78St2_YQkQ

"I ... I ... I think I'm gonna wurtze!"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

When you hear her talk its v easy to forget how young she was; I assumed she was like 17 or 18 when I saw her.

And yeah you would be very hard-pressed to come up w a legit reason to hate her

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Tavi seems really grounded and unspoiled; good for her. She's had extreme fash-holes paying attention to her and it hasn't seemed to turn her head.

J-Ho's mother was the features editor of the Minneapolis paper and there was open hostility towards teenaged her for the nepotism aspect of her opportunities, and for being available as a go-to person about riot grrrl when there was supposed to be a 'media blackout'. It is very easy to be hurt by scenester bitching or to find yourself stepping on toes when you do media things as a teenager. In the UK there was a post-riot grrrl rush of clever teenaged girls eg Emma Forrest/Caitlin Moran starting their writing careers when most people were sitting GCSEs; every magazine had one, they're all around 35 now and most of them are successful because they had a head start, and any fuck-ups or burn-outs on their part were probably short in duration and happened before they were really adults, or seen as such by commissioning editors.

ella fingerblast hurls forever (suzy), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

J-Ho seems pretty level-headed these days, I think she's turned out pretty well and not sure why she's being held up as a "worrisome" ideal for Tavi.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe she could have been a neurosurgeon or something? It just seems like a bad deal. Would any of you want this kind of attention visited upon you at that age, knowing how it could end up defining you?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

J-Ho is just had or is about to have her second. She's much father along on the timeline of life.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Already had! She is a successful journalist/irl good person -- not sure how she could be anything but a top notch role model. People caught shit for much different stuff back in the 90s.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

i bet shell turn into a chill adult whos reasonably successful but not wildly ambitious or famous ^^

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

Tavi's evolution is already interesting: moving from pure fashion-week fashion to a bigger cultural/social/political context. Seems to be making good choices.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Tavi Gevinson ‏@tavitulle
i will only go to homecoming with you if i can get a cut of whatever my mom paid you for asking me

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8NzGprm_qk&feature=plcp

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkIPwx7_6Vg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

jon hamm, bro

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

I am contented to live my life without a single worry over the future of Tavi Gevinson. I wish her well, tho.

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

bf is girling out over the Style Rookie yearbook I just gifted him. "omg it comes with a crown!"

whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

^GREAT reason to get a thing

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

I need her help...she needs to mentor me!

*tera, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

End of an era

Today is the last day of Rookie and this is my last Editor's Letter. Thank you for seven very special years. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️https://t.co/1iE7G7QESs

— Tavi Gevinson (@tavitulle) November 30, 2018

... (Eazy), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

It's by her and about Britney, but not just that by any means. I should note triggers.

https://www.thecut.com/amp/2021/02/tavi-gevinson-britney-spears-was-never-in-control.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

Not the point of the article, but it blew my mind when she talks about Rookie as "less than ten years ago," it feels to me like that's the distant past and she's 35 now but apparently not

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

New novella/zine related to T. Swift:

https://lithub.com/pale-fire-tavis-version-notes-on-taylor-swift-and-the-literature-of-obsessive-fandom

paisley got boring (Eazy), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:52 (three months ago) link

somehow this person got famous and she utterly passed me by. when she was on the new, horrible gossip girl reboot I was like "who is this awful actress" and that's where I learned who she was.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 22 April 2024 23:39 (three months ago) link

however, this zine exercise sounds interesting

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 22 April 2024 23:40 (three months ago) link

Just read this. It's quite something!

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 04:10 (three months ago) link

I haven't read this yet and don't know if I will, cause i really don't care about TS and am tired of seeing so much content about her. but I did recently re-read Tavi's essay about Britney (posted upthread) and it's still so very good.

was also really happy a few weeks ago when my 17yo stepkid re-posted a page from Rookie Yearbook One, which I'd given to her as a birthday present six years prior (a lifetime for a teenager!)

Roz, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:58 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

I… don’t know where to begin with this. your deeply unhinged essay of the week

https://www.gq.com/story/taylor-swift-tavi-gevinson-annie-hamilton

Roz, Friday, 14 June 2024 06:34 (one month ago) link

i'm maybe 10-20% through - is this an archived livejournal post?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 14 June 2024 06:43 (one month ago) link

there's tongue in cheek essays on obsessive fandom (above, Britney and Tay Tay), and then there's... is this writer getting help?

StanM, Friday, 14 June 2024 07:18 (one month ago) link

I had to start skimming, it was too uncomfortable.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 June 2024 07:21 (one month ago) link

yeah. see some people saying it's a meta piece that's largely parodying the Taylor zine it's promoting but i feel like that's giving the author too much credit?

Roz, Friday, 14 June 2024 07:34 (one month ago) link

I've known people like this, that have an obsessive need to connect with someone that has, well not exactly fame as such, more a cache of shininess...

So, they may well be silent in your company, or make vague small talk, but won't be actually witty, charming or "fun" unless the said object person is within earshot. Why waste your best anecdote if the audience is sub-par and you won't be able to repeat it once the audience is 'bigger'...

Mark G, Friday, 14 June 2024 09:12 (one month ago) link

the other article by that same writer doesn't feel like a parody either (unless everything she does is)

StanM, Friday, 14 June 2024 09:34 (one month ago) link

The bit where she insults The Cut in front of its editor

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 14 June 2024 09:36 (one month ago) link

annie is a well known "hot mess" in certain circles, she maybe took her crazy to a next level here idk

buzza, Friday, 14 June 2024 10:33 (one month ago) link

idk it definitely feels like an homage to Fan Fiction, esp the supposed email from Tavi at the end

I'm confused by the timeline, tho. so she first hears about Tavi in 2010, then meets her 12 years later (=2022), then "years went by" before she met her again 2 years ago (=2022????). maybe it doesn't make sense bc it's partly fictional.

jaymc, Friday, 14 June 2024 14:35 (one month ago) link

WTF is this? also anyone who has had a "fan" knows it feels a lot like having a stalker who claims to be benevolent. maybe i don't get it, but this reads as "strongly unhinged" to me. is that the point?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 14 June 2024 14:53 (one month ago) link

reads like modern era nyc-based vibes-based not-quite-autofiction. not really my thing but I feel like it's meant to wind up the audience a bit in the purpose of conveying anxiety

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 14 June 2024 14:55 (one month ago) link

xp - "fan" in scare quotes on purpose -- i obviously don't think all fans of things are quasi-stalkers. to be the fan of a person/admire a person and their output and try to be their friend/know them intimately are not the same thing.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 14 June 2024 14:57 (one month ago) link

i haven't read the tavi zine but this writer is clearly trying to go viral

ivy., Friday, 14 June 2024 15:01 (one month ago) link

it's no Cat Person

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:13 (one month ago) link

this kind of gave me flashbacks to the NY scenester autofiction type stuff the pitchfork reviews reviews guy used to write. And that guy ended up becoming Tavi's boyfriend.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:16 (one month ago) link

i saw something else somewhere by this annie hamilton and could not believe it was published it was so weird and terrible. i can't remember what it was though

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link

Just remembered Tavi dated Ezra from vampire weekend too, when she was 18 and he was 30 iirc. Also iirc there were some whispers several years ago about him not being a particularly great dude to her, but I don't know if there was truth behind that. She wrote an article about it but didn't name him, but seems like it might have been him.

omar little, Friday, 14 June 2024 15:33 (one month ago) link

I guess if this is what writers these days have to offer, I'm ok with media jobs just no longer existing.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:39 (one month ago) link

I had no idea about her dating PRR *or* Koenig! Makes sense I guess

jaymc, Friday, 14 June 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link

The author reads like a real life Wendy (the Walter Scott comic, not Peter Pan). I don't think the author's anxieties are unusual, and it's interesting to read them laid bare, but this is a profoundly intrusive piece-of-shit bit of writing

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 14 June 2024 16:42 (one month ago) link

tavi noted the author's brilliance and referred to it as fan fiction in her ig story so motwyw

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 14 June 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link

Well, if Tavi’s happy then I’m happy

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 14 June 2024 17:03 (one month ago) link

This essay on Fan Fiction has the A-grade title "Seizing The Zines of Production."

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 14 June 2024 17:28 (one month ago) link


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