Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 2: The Dark World? Verily?

Set photos blah blah blah

can I just totally girl-up this thread from the get go and say hell yes

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/images2/aug12/thor2/?p=43

hmph

alternatively? thor morelike phowar amirite

phwoar that should be

i'm just going to quit while I'm ahead

PHO WAR

can I just totally girl-up this thread from the get go and say hell yes

Ha, my wife is usually not one to go for muscle-bound guys (I mean, she married me nudgenudge winkwink), but her crush on Hemsworth is absolutely insane. Unless your broken link image was for Loki, then disregard.

I didn't even know there was a sequel in the works. Cool.

P much sequels for every Avengers related franchise in the works now.

I hope we get a Mark Hulkalo movie. He was the best part of Avengers.

yeah that's the only one I'd be interested in

In the works, I've heard, as is a Nick Fury flick.

what is the deal with the SLJ version of Nick Fury anyway? have they just excised WWII from that character altogether?

I'm hoping that's what they go into with his movie.

let me help veg out

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/images2/aug12/thor2/images/image0043.jpg

hey're doing a Fury flick and doing a S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show? Wow.

Missing a T there.

what is the deal with the SLJ version of Nick Fury anyway? have they just excised WWII from that character altogether?

They're using the Ultimate Marvel version of Nick Fury, who was reimagined to look like SLJ

fury movie's just a rumor

what is the deal with the SLJ version of Nick Fury anyway? have they just excised WWII from that character altogether?

They're using the Ultimate Marvel version of Nick Fury, who was reimagined to look like SLJ

Actually, they just introduced Nick's bastard son Nick who looks like SLJ into regular Marvel because why the hell not.

I thought it was nudged into pre-production with a bunch of the others after the Avengers did gonzo numbers.

(xpost)

EZ, I saw that but was going to not go there

Which is easier - Nick's bastard son Nick or explaining the Ultimate Universe? Toss-up in my book.

You don't really have to explain the Ultimate universe to explain Nick Fury

But you have to explain why he's not an old white WWII vet. It's easier to say "that's the old grizzled dude's son".

"it's the same character from an alternate universe where he looks like SLJ"

thank you Mordy!!!

yeah I have no idea what it is about Hemsworth or Thor but...crikey

Apples and oranges. I'm going to go with the answer that doesn't involve alternate universes myself.

have no idea what an Ultimate Universe is and kind of don't want to know honestly

would have accepted short, non-nonsensical answer to my question (ie "yes")

well... they didn't, though

so in the Ultimate Universe Fury is an african American general in WWII...? idgi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury#Fictional_character_biography

Nicholas Fury fought for the United States in World War II. During the invasion of Sicily, he, along with Private Fisk and Canadian paratrooper Corporal Howlett, attempted to loot a house. American military police arrived to arrest them, and all three were subdued. Fisk was grazed by a bullet, while Fury was imprisoned in an unknown location alongside several other black men, and Howlett, despite protests that he was Canadian, was also shipped to an unknown location.[5] Fury was selected to be the next test subject for Project: Rebirth, as his blood work most closely matched that of Subject #22, the most successful of the previous test subjects. He was injected with a serum that gave him super-strength, which he used to free himself and the other prisoners, who then escaped. The scientists who were working on him let him escape, deciding that they have all the information that they needed for now.[6]

After attending college in India, Fury enlisted in the U.S. military, where he was deployed into various conflicts such as the Kosovo Wars. He was later assigned to S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Weapon X program in the original Gulf War. While transporting Wolverine in his adamantium cage, an Iraqi guerrilla ambush killed his team and inadvertently freed Wolverine from his prison. After slaughtering the Iraqi guards, Wolverine discovered Fury, the only survivor of the ambush, and transported him back through the desert to the Allied forces. Although Wolverine was summarily subdued and re-imprisoned by his handlers, a bond between the two men was formed.[7] The next day, Fury, already mostly healed, is confronted by General Thaddeus Ross. The General had discovered much was unusual about Fury and questioned him at length, prompting him to reexamine where he was going in life.[8]

Years later, the X-Men were abducted and imprisoned by the Weapon X program. This program was overseen at the time by Wraith, who had previously staged a coup against General Ross. This coup had prevented Ross from dismantling the Weapon X program altogether. Wolverine, the only X-Man who eludes capture, later asks Fury for help in freeing the other X-Men and bringing down the Weapon X program. During the operation, which also involves the Brotherhood of Mutants, Wraith was about to kill one of the X-Men and is shot dead by Fury.[7]

Fury is summarily promoted to General and resumes the duties of the Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. He was tasked with forming a team to battle posthuman threats and resurrecting the Super-Soldier program, two objectives that resulted in the formation of the Ultimates. Fury operates as the commander of the team, at times leading them into action, though he often shares duties with the revived World War II Captain America. Nick Fury is also responsible for monitoring posthumans who are not affiliated with the U.S. Military, including Peter Parker and the X-Men.[9]

ANYWAY ABOUT THIS FILM:

Christopher Eccleston as Malekith the Accursed: The ruler of the Dark Elves of Svartalfheim.
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Algrim the Strong / Kurse: A Dark Elf, who is coerced by Malekith to fight Thor.

Nice! Back to the Simonson run for inspiration. If they keep pretty close to the original plot it should be decent.

Eccelstone! awesome!

yeah Simonson run's a good template

Nicholas Fury fought for the United States in World War II. ...
After attending college in India, Fury enlisted in the U.S. military, where he was deployed into various conflicts such as the Kosovo Wars.

uh okay

why did I even ask...

You're forgetting your own threads, Ned?

It's always too early to anticipate Patty Jenkins's THOR 2

Anyway, here's what I wrote in the other thread:

So, apparently this will be called The Dark World, and the main villain is Malekith the Accursed (played by Christopher Eccleston), and it's also supposed to put Loki on some kind of a redemption arc. Wanna bet it'll end with an after-credits stinger showing Surtur, and in Thor 3 Odin, Thor, and Loki will fight against him together, like they did in the comics?

Also, maybe title hints that the way Thor got to Earth in The Avengers (Odin having to use "dark magic" to transport him there) is actually gonna pay off in this movie, instead of being just an easy way for Whedon to get over the bittersweet ending of the first Thor movie?

― Tuomas, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:41 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xpost -- That's brilliant! But people seemed to have noticed this one more, so.

Nice! Back to the Simonson run for inspiration. If they keep pretty close to the original plot it should be decent.

You mean the original plot where one of the main villains they're gonna use in the movie gets his superpowers from an omnipotent, god-like cosmic being, who previously created an artificial planet so that he could put superheroes and supervillains there to fight against each other, and is now roaming Earth so he can learn about human stuff like feelings? And the said villain then becomes a good guy when a bunch of kids convince him that's the right thing to do?

Actually, using that plot would be pretty cool! More seriously speaking though, I hope they do include the awesomely queer scene where Malekith seduces and kills guy while he's metamorphosed into a woman, then turns back into a guy and confesses how lovely it felt. (I doubt they will include Loki turning into woman, even if Straczynski is involved with the sequel too.)

Oh yeah, and here's hoping Thor 3 will be all about the Frog of Thunder!

that sounds cool tuomas

John Leguizamo as Beta Ray Bill

Official description from Marvel:

Marvel's "Thor: The Dark World" continues the big-screen adventures of Thor, the Mighty Avenger, as he battles to save Earth and all the Nine Realms from a shadowy enemy that predates the universe itself. In the aftermath of Marvel's "Thor" and "Marvel's The Avengers," Thor fights to restore order across the cosmos...but an ancient race led by the vengeful Malekith returns to plunge the universe back into darkness. Faced with an enemy that even Odin and Asgard cannot withstand, Thor must embark on his most perilous and personal journey yet, one that will reunite him with Jane Foster and force him to sacrifice everything to save us all.

Starring Chris Hemsworth, Natalie Portman, Tom Hiddleston, Stellan Skarsgård, Idris Elba, Christopher Eccleston, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Kat Dennings, Ray Stevenson, Zachary Levi, Tadanobu Asano and Jaimie Alexander with Rene Russo and Anthony Hopkins as Odin, "Thor: The Dark World" is directed by Alan Taylor, produced by Kevin Feige, from a story by Don Payne (credit not final) and screenplay by Christopher Yost and Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely (credit not final) and is based on Marvel's classic Super Hero Thor, who first appeared in the comic book "Journey into Mystery" #83 in August, 1962.

with Rene Russo and Anthony Hopkins as Odin

man I wish this was actually as presented

it's like one of those two-person horse costumes

oh lord stuck in Loki again

zachary levi nooo

Hollywood's awesomest god-squadder IMO

I'm rewatching the entire MCU prior to Infinity War, and having just rewatched this one for the first time since seeing in the theatre, I'd like to revise my review upthread. This was as close to hot trash as the MCU films have gotten (the shows are another discussion entirely). Why didn't they just call it The Movie Where We Were Assigned To Introduce The Reality Stone (Also Thor Is In It, And Loki, Because Why Not). Having also rewatched the absolutely winning and fun Iron Man 3 and Spider-Man: Homecoming this weekend, this one is just kinda insultingly perfunctory and dull. And it makes Ragnarok shine all the more brightly in contrast.

Agreed, this was a slog with little to recommend. Rates with Iron Man 2 imo.

what order are you watching them in? as released?

Yeah, I only fudged the order with Spidey because my gf hadn't seen it yet and because it's mostly self-contained.

The post-credits scene with the Collector and the Mandarin short on the blu-ray were both better than the movie. Pretty damning.

Iron Man 2 and Hulk are both lower-tier but they're fun and didn't feel like someone slogging through a homework assignment. This kinda felt like the Marvel version of a late-period Die Hard sequel (buy generic fantasy action script, change the names and hope audience doesn't notice).

You'd rate IM2 over Dark World? Savage!

I think I liked this at the time but yeah it doesn't really hold up - can barely recall anything that happened in it. I still can't believe they cast Christopher Eccleston and chose to bury him under a ton of prosthetics.

I do think it's hilarious how Natalie Portman's character has just about been wiped out of existence since though.

this one is indeed not very good at all but what it does have in its favour is the priceless shot where thor awkwardly hangs his hammer on the coat rack, an inspired moment of chris hemsworth improv which apparently made taika waititi want to make ragnarok

You'd rate IM2 over Dark World? Savage!

― Nhex, Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:22 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For sure. I honestly have never understood the IM2 disdain. It's not as good as the first and not terribly action-packed, but there's a lot of fun to be had and good performances. Everyone in Dark World is phoning it in, for the most part. Which is doubly damning because we've seen what these folks (minus Portman) are capable of.

Portman is very possibly the worst actor in the entire MCU and I'm glad they appear to have written her out.

I'd love to see a female Thor like in the comics.

I'd love to see a female Thor like in the comics as long as female Thor is played by basically anyone other than Natalie Portman.

I missed Kat Dennings in Ragnarok.

I thought this revive might be because of this recent C Eccleston interview, esp:

“Working on something like GI Joe was horrendous,” he says, emphasising that the responsibility was his and not anyone else’s. “I just wanted to cut my throat every day. And Thor? Just a gun in your mouth. Gone in 60 Seconds was a good experience. Nic Cage is a gentleman and fantastic actor. But GI Joe and Thor were … I really paid for being a whore those times.”

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/mar/11/christopher-eccleston-macbeths-very-insecure-about-his-masculinity-i-am-most-men-are

He's not wrong. Pretty much anyone could've been slathered in latex and plopped in front of the camera for that thankless role. They could've saved some money and repurposed one of the LMDs from the Hall of Presidents. You'd never know from the movie that Malekith is an actual character with an actual personality and motivations and shit.

Sorry if I bump a couple Marvel threads here but I’m catching up on these films in order. I watched this one recently and despite its reputation as arguably the worst film out of all of these MCU flicks I thought it wasn’t particularly bad at all, while at the same time I can’t especially argue too much against its series status. I get a lot of mileage out of the absurdity of the setting and the special effects, plus Hemsworth remains exceptionally good. I have no idea what was going on with the story, now that I’m trying to recall it. It made sense at the time, I guess.

So sure, maybe* it’s the worst but I wouldn’t call it “bad” in the sense that it was poorly executed or acted. It just maybe felt a bit too vague and generic in its major conflicts and its villains.

*so far I think Iron Man 2 might be the worst. Probably not a challop.

IM 2 definitely the worst

it’s v bad, def worse than thor 2

Always thought Thor: The Dark World got a bad rep. I quite enjoyed it, but I saw it waaay after it came out, too. Maybe because it came out between the good Iron Man 3 and the fantastic Winter Soldier it looked worse than it was.

Iron Man 2 is far and away the worst, probably the only one I'm not sure I could ever sit through again.

Sam Rockwell’s spray tan was the only good part of IM 2 to my recollection.

agree

i think that was the last film i recall Mickey Rourke looking like Mickey Rourke version 2.0 before he rolled out 3.0

probably the only cast members who didn't seem bored in that film were Rockwell and Paltrow, and really the latter is extremely good and funny in all of them. you hear so much shit about her IRL but i'm really always amazed at her likability onscreen.

Recent posts seconded. I'm a big Marvel fan & love all of those MCU movies, if I'd rank them I would definitely place Iron Man 2 at the bottom - although I do still enjoy it.

After seeing Thor: The Dark World in the cinema, I remember leaving rather disappointed and thinking of it as one of the lesser ones, but when I later watched it again on Blu-ray I THORoughly enjoyed it, it really surprised me how much so.

It's a shame that Malekith wasn't fleshed out a bit more. But I do think of this movie as a pretty good one.

the latter is extremely good and funny in all of them. you hear so much shit about her IRL but i'm really always amazed at her likability onscreen.

yeah, def - as i think i said elsewhere on ilx, paltrow's talent as an actor is evident in how charming she is in-character as opposed to how insufferable she is as herself

dr strange the worst i think, but these two are bad also.

but i mean i thought winter soldier was dross too.

U mad.

And I will never understand why IM2 is so bad + hated. It's not great but it's fine. A damn sight finer than Thor 2.

the first iron man, by all accounts, was a bit of a lightning-in-a-bottle shoot where they ended up improvising a lot of what made it great

the sequel did the same but for whatever reason it didn't work out nearly as well, possibly (iirc) because mickey rourke was pissed off that a lot of the prep he did for the character ended up being wasted effort since stuff kept changing around him

it's okay but if i never see it again i'll be okay with it

Only lasting effect IM2 had on me was that I still pronounce "bird" in Russian. R.I.P. DJ AM.

the way he says "hey man" to rockwell has never gotten out of my head since i think

"héh. myin."

Bhordd

I dunno, everyone is real good in that movie and seems to be having a good time.

I read a rumor that Rockwell's coming back. I hope that it's so. (He also appears as a fellow inmate of Trevor Slattery in the Mandarin short film that's on one of the blu-rays, in case you have not seen it and would like to.)

man i love sam rockwell

he'd be a great tony stark - casting him as justin hammer was a really smart move

I sometimes wonder if the MCU would have taken off the way it did if Tim Olyphant had scored the role of Tony Stark - I gather he was runner-up or something.

xpost I love him, too, and I want him back! Confessions of a Dangerous Mind is quickly becoming one of my most rewatched movies of the 21st century (up there with Shattered Glass).

xp his audition for constipated bruce banner all through deadwood prob swayed em

rockwell is great

he's so fucking good in moon, playing the same person twice but keeping them very distinct while playing on-set against nothing - it's an astonishing performance

i think olyphant's charisma is very different to downey's - i dunno if he could carry off the devil-may-care lightness (and improvisational skill) that downey brought to the role

Olyphant is more a Wolverine type imo (hint hint, Disney/Fox).

i'd be inclined to agree but olyphant is the same age as jackman tho, unfortunately - no way they'd sign up someone aged 50+ to carry a series of superhero movies

I read a rumor that Rockwell's coming back. I hope that it's so.

Hammer Industries stuff shows about a lot on the Netflix Marvel shows -- among other things, they make the "Judas bullets" that are capable of penetrating Luke Cage's skin. Would love to see him pop up on one of those shows, but getting back into the MCU would be even better.

i dunno if he could carry off the devil-may-care lightness (and improvisational skill) that downey brought to the role

fwiw his track record of coming up with a lot of the better character beats on Justified suggest otherwise, but I'm a stan

don't get me wrong, i think he's great too! i'm glad we got deadwood and justified but i've always been a bit baffled that he wasn't a bigger movie star

Olyphant is more a Wolverine type imo (hint hint, Disney/Fox).

― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:21 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's a Gambit if there ever was one

Too bad there'll never be an American Flagg movie, since he pretty much nailed Reuben by playing Raylan.

Ah well, I'm sure he'll relish his four lines in the new Tarantino.

I think Olyphant in devil-may-care mode is A+ but I think his Tony Stark would be necessarily extremely different. He has an old school movie star charisma that was finally deployed to perfection in Justified, it’s kind of shameful it took that long.

Eventually they will have to recast everyone- a practice I’m not opposed to at all, as it fits the source material perfectly.

btw i don't really think Iron Man 2 is a completely terrible film, but it seems to be a failed attempt at recapturing a bit of what made the first one good and generally speaking there's not much interesting about Mickey Rourke's character despite at the Methoding he was doing, and it was probably the worst bit of casting in the series that i've seen thus far. And i think it was a film that showed a very bad path the series could have taken, one that was more unadventurous and coasting on goodwill. Favreau ran out of ideas.