Question inspired by an off-handed comment from Tom.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
There are too many great stories to count, but my favourite episode is
probably The Ark In Space, or whatever that scary one with the
sleeping people in the space station that got eaten by giant bees.
Also, the whole season that was the "key to time" story arc, I can't
remember the name of any individual episodes, but just the fact that
the Sonic Screwdriver ended up being the key on which the whole
universe hinged was pretty damned cool. Plus, I had, like, a huge
crush on Adrik, the original indie maths nerd, when I was a pre-teen.
Though of all the companions, I think Romana was the coolest, just
cause I wanted to *be* her. She was smarter than the Dr, after all.
Funny, cause all the things that people point to, saying it's a dud-
abysmally low production budget, lack of special effects, socks with
googley eyes glued on for monsters- were all the things that made it
endearing. And the quality of writing was just AMAZING- the minimal
budget that they had, they spent on getting the very best in sci fi
writers to come up with concepts and stories so engaging that you
didn't care that it looked crap.
I could go on at length, but I've already outed myself as a geek
enough on this board for one week...
― masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Jeff, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"Doctor Who" was far and away my favorite show
growing up. "The Ark In Space" is definitely high on my list, along
with "The Robots of Death", "Kinda", "The Caves Of Androzani", the
whole Key To Time season, "Inferno", "The Mind Robber"... Oh, I
could go on and on. Favorite Doc is Davison, mostly because he
managed to pull off underplaying the role and comes across as even
more powerful because of it. Hell, I'm so into it that I've got
EVERY book published in the New Adventures series from _Timewyrm:
Genesys_ in the Virgin series through _Vanishing Point_ in the BBC
series. (I do draw the line at conventions, though. Even when I was
a kid, I thought the entire concept of a Doctor Who convention filled
with adults dressed as these characters to be really disturbing.)
Best companions? Without a doubt, Leela, Romana I, Tegan, Sarah
Jane, and Turlough. Especially Leela. (cf: fictional characters
I've had a crush on)
Classic: the (original) Master, played by Roger Delgado.
Dud: all the stuff with Unit (ur-notion for the Initiative in Buffy? Only rubbish instead of good, obviously), and Pertwee himself
(to me = Troughton nut). But Pertwee's ENEMIES were often grate (=Devils, Sea Devils: one of the Devils was called BOD!!)
Ten-ton dud: Tom "Overract why fucking don't you" Baker. But the Gallifrey/Time Lord business was often amusing.
Three-ton dud: Peter Davidson. BUT the ing on the first season of stories (esp. CASTROVALVA, abut timewarps and paradoxes, name
taken from a lithograph by ESCHER = overlooked classic)
Hundred-ton duds: subsequent Doctors /Peter Cushing movies
― mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Castrovalva! Was that the one where they were trapped in the scarily
moebius strip city that Adrik (ah, archetype of all indie mathsrock
nerds of my heart...) discovered that he had mistakenly created with
his mathematical formulae?
Oh, and here's a question: K-9, what think you? Super-cool uber gadget
who always saved the day, or annoying cutesy ploy, the Dr. Who
equivalent of Ewoks?
Man, I have always wished that I had a sonic screwdriver!
Castrovalva and Adrik: very possibly correct — of course, this era Who is NEVER repeated (cuz supposedly a decline on Pertwee/
Baker), plus my memory is swirling away like asteroids into a time discontinuity anyway, so I don't recall. Part of my mathrock
reason for liking Adrik was that the maths was, erm, not utterly entirely bogus. (mathrock = mathmath in my case...)
Jo = my major crush-assistant, I suppose. Can't be: she always screamed and wuz scared. Who was the one who ACTUALLY DIED?
Played by Jean Marsh (later of Upstairs Downstairs). Or am I tripping?
GOT IT! My major crush assistant was Zoe!! (This too is a Wow-factor thing...)
Sub-thread Q: lamest Dr Who assistant?
Mark is right - it's your second. Peter Davison in my case. This
theory probably falls down if applied to any post-Davison due to
― Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Jean Marsh played Sara Kingdom in "The Dalek Masterplan" and has the
distinction of being the only companion to join and die in the same
story. (Of course, "The Dalek Masterplan" went on for 16 episodes or
something like that...)
"Castrovalva" is definitely the one where
the Master uses Adric to generate a trans-dimensional mathematical
construct solely to trap a confused and newly-regenerated
Patrick Troughton rocked the house as far as I can tell.
The only stories of his I've really seen are "The Mind Robber"
and "The War Games", though, so I don't have enough evidence to knock
Davison outof the top spot. The Yeti were SORELY underused,
Frasier Hines, who played Jamie, was also on "Upstairs,
The Doctor had three companions die during the
television series; Srar Kingdom, Katarina, and Adric. The books
added Liz Shaw and Roslynn Forrester to this list, plus the Brigadier
is now living out the rest of his life in an alternate dimension
populated by faries. (No, really.)
The misfortune of the Peri
character was teaming her with the sixth Doctor. Either forceful,
grating personality could have worked, but both together were a
SHOCKINGLY bad idea. Interestingly enough, the new fiction line has
managed to not only completely salvage Peri and the sixth Doctor, but
also the hideously misconceived Melanie Bush, who has gone from being
a chirpy nightmare to one of the more capable people the Doctor has
Worst companion? Victoria Waterfield, aka the
extremely wet Victorian girl whose sole function was to scream, "Help
me Jamie!" at every opportunity. They replaced her with Zoe for
― james e l, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― -- Mike Hanley, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
that would have been awesome! More sad fannishness:
Doctor, "Trial of a Timelord". The Doctor gets taken outof time by
the Timelords and put on trial for being a general menace to the
universe. As it transpires, he was pulled out of time as he was
rushing to rescue Peri from having her brain sucked out and replaced
with one from a slug-like dictator. Therefore, he wasn't there to
save her and she was killed, becoming an evil pod person. The
companion who ended up replacing her, Mel, was played by Bonnie
(At the end of the trial, it's strongly hinted that Peri
was actually saved by one of the people fighting the evil slugs and
ended up marrying him, which is why I didn't list her amongst the
And he had a soft spot for Jo. There's a scene in "The Green Death",
at some point after she announces her engagement to Dr Jones, where
he glances at her as if to say 'if I were ten...fifteen years
younger'. Quite touching really.
― David, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The VERY FIRST companion was Susan, who
was the doctor's DAUGHTER? No? She was
interesting, it being 1963 and therefore pre-
pop, let alone pre-Kate Millett: cuz she was
SUPER-CLEVER, and the earth-boys were
baffled and threatened and intrigued by
this. But I don't remember her to look at
since (a) B/W episodes never repeated; and
(b) her character/look is overlaid by things
I much later read in ancient second-hand TV
comic-books and by the very repeated film
with Bernard fucking Cribbins in it). (BC =
cool, just not appropriate to this story...)
But I do remember a scene with her in it,
which is poorly revisited in the film, when
the white bedford van she is in (driven by a
dalek-resistance soldier) is strafed by the
giant dalek ship. Cuz where I lived and
where my dad worked the staff van was a
white bedford van, and when I was in it, I
often used to check out that there was
enough foliage near enough that I could jump
out of the van — as Susan had — and roll to
cover into it, shd the dalek ship appear and
That is all. (That is enough...)
An episode of Fireball XL5 gave me the all-
time nightmares-for-week spooking, though.
My memory of this is hazy, despite being told this story dozens of
times in my youth, but by all accounts he was very nice, askign K9
why he wasn't in the tardis, who his friend was and so on. What a
― Magnus, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Best series Genesis of the Daleks, but only cos a friend did it as a one man
show. His interpretation of Davros was jumping around in a frying pan, tom
Baker was a pan on the head.
tom Baker was the best imho.
Ace was very annoying though, and janet what's her name from Blue peter
― Ed Lynch-Bell, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sara Lee, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anyway, Jo (Katy Manning) destroyed and stomped on my pre-adolescent
heart by marrying the dull Sgt. Benson in the Pertwee/Unit days. I've
never ever recovered, never will and don't want to. A goddess.
Great call on Roger Delgado. A scary mutha in a very English way.
― Dr. C, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Mark: my school library also always had the Mail. The librarian was
a self-described "true blue" Tory, hmmm, what a surprise ...
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Taking sides: Peanuts vs The Perishers
― Dr.C, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― K-reg, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dr. C, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Did you all see the mid-90's TV movie with Paul McGann and
Daphne Ashbrook? Any comments?
― Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Magnus, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― AP, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
There's a great Doctor Who book
floating out there called _Interference_ where the Doctor runs into
an enemy who completely FUBAR's his past timeline. I love that idea
and I'm kind of bummed out that the show never really exploited that
aspect of time travel (ill-conceived Valeyard aside).
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
Doctor Who assistants - Search/DestroyThe Man That Ruined Doctor WhoDoctor Who Weekly/Monthly comic strips - Search/Destroy
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Grr! (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
Castrovalva is rubbish though!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:13 (twenty years ago) link
The VERY FIRST companion was Susan, who was the doctor's DAUGHTER? No? She was interesting, it being 1963 and therefore pre- pop, let alone pre-Kate Millett: cuz she was SUPER-CLEVER, and the earth-boys were baffled and threatened and intrigued by this. But I don't remember her to look at since (a) B/W episodes never repeated
I remember the surviving B/W episodes being shown on UK Gold when UK Gold first started, in the early 90s. I think Susan told everyone that she was the doctor's granddaughter, but this might just have been a ploy to explain why he was her guardian to boring Earth people.
My favourite Doctor Who related thing is probably Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, a Douglas Adams novel put together from late-70s Doctor Who scripts that were never broadcast. (as was the third Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy book)
― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
Exquisite. Simply... exquisite.
Tico - The BRANE OF MORBIUS should only be attempted after a couple of cans of RELAXANT in my opinion cos it is very silly. Also you will be annoyed by the rubbish assistant who falls over a lot. The priestesses are brilliant. But yes I am up for DOCTOR ACTION.
Secret flame! Secret fire!
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
does that include the missing episodes?
― koogs, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 19:04 (one month ago) link
it does, but the number of spinoff episodes (102) roughly equals the number of missing episodes (97) so their figure of "800" is interesting
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 21:25 (one month ago) link
The wording strongly suggests that Confidential and other / new retrospective material is being counted too
― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 21:27 (one month ago) link
how long before AI is good enough to make all the missing episodes again using the recons?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 21:38 (one month ago) link
maybe they can use frog DNA
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 21:40 (one month ago) link
That's how we got Chibnall.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:10 (one month ago) link
so anthony coburn's kid is an absolute piece of shit (sadly that's not particularly noteworthy these days) BUT i'm just going to start calling it "the tribe of gums" from now on
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:00 (one month ago) link
mel was right
― Jane Eyre Jordan (Leee), Saturday, 21 October 2023 17:20 (one month ago) link
my god did moffat actually say "the queen should be played by a man"? because _that's_ never happened before. has he really not seen 1992's _orlando_? tilda swinton looks like an elizabethan dominatrix on the cover! it's like the movie was made to appeal to his personal sexual fetishes.
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:27 (one month ago) link
not entirely sure that your conclusion that Moffat wants to fuck the author of The Old Man Of Lochnagar is supported by his endorsement of the principles of regeneration but I do think selling drawings of it would be a niche concern
― vashti funyuns (sic), Sunday, 22 October 2023 03:19 (one month ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:05 (four weeks ago) link
fuck, wrong link: https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/welcome-to-the-whoniverse-and-tales-of-the-tardis
Steven and Vicki?????
― the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:43 (four weeks ago) link
RTD has still got it!
This is by far the funniest thing I've seen in relation to all the Davros stuff pic.twitter.com/vwVuvECUMX— Flight Red 50 (@FlightRed50) November 19, 2023
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 19 November 2023 12:57 (one week ago) link
Suella Braverman attacks for Rishi Sunak for his failure to bring back the old Davros
― soref, Sunday, 19 November 2023 13:20 (one week ago) link
i’m perhaps unreasonably stoked for next saturday
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 November 2023 16:29 (one week ago) link
Rightly or wrongly the first thing I thought when I saw Julian Bleach in the CiN thing was 'damn he'd make a good Giuliani'.
― nashwan, Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:15 (one week ago) link
I am also stoked.
― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:26 (one week ago) link
probly time for an RTD2 thread
― vashti funyuns (sic), Sunday, 19 November 2023 19:17 (one week ago) link
i’m quite up for it. unlike chinballs rtd does know how to put a show together, even if i find some of the melodrama a bit ott for my taste. so disappointing that the first female doctor didn’t have a better showrunner.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 19 November 2023 19:19 (one week ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 November 2023 21:53 (one week ago) link
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2023 22:12 (one week ago) link
"I watched Barrowman do it and just laughed. HOOT!"
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Sunday, 19 November 2023 22:20 (one week ago) link
Fantastic wink skills here
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 24 November 2023 18:55 (four days ago) link
Fuck me, Stef Coburn is a better friend to Doctor Who than this. Makes Chinballs look like Bob Holmes.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Saturday, 25 November 2023 19:36 (three days ago) link
― koogs, Saturday, 25 November 2023 20:08 (three days ago) link
new-nu-Who: RTD2 (Doctor Who on telly 2023-?)
― bae (sic), Saturday, 25 November 2023 21:04 (three days ago) link
Anyone else (who can) tried The Daleks In COLOUR on iPlayer? Barbara's pink shirt is tripping me out.Also watched for the first time recently: The Aztecs (good esp. considering it's 'just' a history lesson type story), a few Troughton era openers, Spearhead From Space (not so good but wanted to see how indoors Who on film from that time looked) and started Genesis (seen some of before but never in full).
― nashwan, Monday, 27 November 2023 22:42 (yesterday) link
I just spotted that Dalek thing today! It's on my list, I've been watching the two surviving episodes of The Wheel in Space.
― MaresNest, Monday, 27 November 2023 22:46 (yesterday) link
The Daleks looks lovely but the editing is all over the place, it's easily 15 minutes too short, nearer 25.
And if you hate Murray Gold's music then... intrusive isn't the word.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 27 November 2023 23:03 (yesterday) link
I've only dipped in and out, but they seem to have used some very odd sources for the uploads, Reign of Terror for example has a broken audio master that plays like a massively warped record.
I remember when the Blu-ray Spearhead came out, the most Hammer that Who has ever looked.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 27 November 2023 23:14 (yesterday) link
The thing I only really picked up on when I rewatched Spearhead this month was that the different look and feel is partly down to film but also very much because it's 100% filmed on location, no studio work at all in there.
Pertwee's has always been the one era I've had near zero awareness of, mostly because "stuck on earth" and "loads of unit/military stuff" have always both been huge turnoffs. But I'm finally working my way through it and finding lots more to enjoy than I expected. I don't particularly like Pertwee himself and a lot of it really is just men with guns chasing each other around grim industrial estates, it sometimes feels more like watching The Sweeney than Doctor Who. But some of the stories really stand up well (Inferno, Mind of Evil especially), and Delgado is just amazing, he hugely lifts every episode he appears in.
― JimD, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 13:23 (nine hours ago) link
Parts of Inferno are like watching some of kind of art gallery video installation - it's very intense and strange, especially the sound
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 15:31 (seven hours ago) link
Cool I will try Inferno, Mind Of Evil and was planning to rewatch The Daemons. Any other Pertwee standouts anyone wants to rep?
― nashwan, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 15:47 (seven hours ago) link
God Inferno is so relentless, especially in the later episodes with all the shouting.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 16:09 (six hours ago) link
My Pertwee faves would be Mind of Evil, Terror of the Autons, The Sea Devils, The Dæmons, The Mutants
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 16:12 (six hours ago) link
The Green Death is fun
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 16:20 (six hours ago) link
Carnival Of Monsters is the Pertwee that is the best with no earthbound military stuff to worry about
― bae (sic), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:40 (five hours ago) link
Day of the Daleks is my absolute favourite but it's not for everyone and the pacing is a bit back and forth.
Claws of Axos and Carnival of Monsters are my two faves that I would say are universally appealing.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:53 (five hours ago) link
there are polls for each season if you search
Doctor Who : Best Episode In Jon Pertwee's 1st Season
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:55 (five hours ago) link
(but I'm not sure they help)
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:58 (five hours ago) link
Carnival has the bonus of Davros’ actor in silver face paint, it’s pretty funny hearing him speak and realising.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:02 (three hours ago) link
Also for my money the best actor on the show, makes everyone else look like panto.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:04 (three hours ago) link
Everyone has already mentioned my favorite Pertwee stories but I’ll also call out The Ambassadors of Death and Planet of the Spiders
― the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:39 (three hours ago) link
My uncle is in Terror of the Autons, he was working as a circus rigger/driver at the tie and plays one of the strongarm blokes that accost the Master
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 20:51 (two hours ago) link
Would say the Time Warrior is pretty top tier Pertwee not yet mentioned (that I can see)
Also quite partial to the Frontier in Space / Planet of the Daleks epic but you definitely need to be in a forgiving mood for some of it
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 20:57 (two hours ago) link
Terror of the Autons also has Michael Wisher in neither silver face paint nor Davros makeup.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:20 (thirty-seven minutes ago) link
idk Time Warrior seemed like a let down
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:26 (thirty-one minutes ago) link
(I didn’t mention this but I’m watching in order and I’m only two seasons in, so my favourites are only my favourites so far. Just finished The Colony in Space and that was shit).
Terror of the Autons isn’t great as a story in itself, but as a collection of disturbing visual set pieces it’s amazing.
― JimD, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:29 (twenty-nine minutes ago) link
I did enjoy Claws of Axos but Jesus, that poor guy having to fall off his bike into the pond in the middle of winter! It looked bloody freezing.
― JimD, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:31 (twenty-seven minutes ago) link