Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

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What was _your_ favorite story/Doctor/companion? Have you read any of the recent books published by Virgin or the BBC? Or was it all unconvincing crap?

Question inspired by an off-handed comment from Tom.

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

CLASSIC!!!!! Doctor Who made me the person I am today, from when I was a wee dot, sitting in my dad's lap, watching the scary Jon Pertwee episodes between my dad's legs, to being a teenage sci fi freak, watching the Tom Baker episodes on Channel 13. I lost track after the Peter Davidson episodes (although I liked him a lot more than the later ones, he forever in my mind should be roaming around the Yorkshire Dales as a vet, not jetting around Galifrey as a Time Lord.)

There are too many great stories to count, but my favourite episode is probably The Ark In Space, or whatever that scary one with the sleeping people in the space station that got eaten by giant bees.

Also, the whole season that was the "key to time" story arc, I can't remember the name of any individual episodes, but just the fact that the Sonic Screwdriver ended up being the key on which the whole universe hinged was pretty damned cool. Plus, I had, like, a huge crush on Adrik, the original indie maths nerd, when I was a pre-teen. Though of all the companions, I think Romana was the coolest, just cause I wanted to *be* her. She was smarter than the Dr, after all. :-)

Funny, cause all the things that people point to, saying it's a dud- abysmally low production budget, lack of special effects, socks with googley eyes glued on for monsters- were all the things that made it endearing. And the quality of writing was just AMAZING- the minimal budget that they had, they spent on getting the very best in sci fi writers to come up with concepts and stories so engaging that you didn't care that it looked crap.

I could go on at length, but I've already outed myself as a geek enough on this board for one week...

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I never really watched, but the opening would always scare the hell out of me when the faces flew out. Those faces and the sleestaks from the Land of the Lost gave me nightmares.

Jeff, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay! I'm not alone.

"Doctor Who" was far and away my favorite show growing up. "The Ark In Space" is definitely high on my list, along with "The Robots of Death", "Kinda", "The Caves Of Androzani", the whole Key To Time season, "Inferno", "The Mind Robber"... Oh, I could go on and on. Favorite Doc is Davison, mostly because he managed to pull off underplaying the role and comes across as even more powerful because of it. Hell, I'm so into it that I've got EVERY book published in the New Adventures series from _Timewyrm: Genesys_ in the Virgin series through _Vanishing Point_ in the BBC series. (I do draw the line at conventions, though. Even when I was a kid, I thought the entire concept of a Doctor Who convention filled with adults dressed as these characters to be really disturbing.)

Best companions? Without a doubt, Leela, Romana I, Tegan, Sarah Jane, and Turlough. Especially Leela. (cf: fictional characters I've had a crush on)

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic: when William Hartnell went to sleep and Patrick Troughton woke up, and walked out onto the surface of Dalek planet, all bubbling withg liquid mercury. I watched this unprepared aged eight, and see it vividly to this day, in colour. It wz broadcast in black and white. Troughton = far and away the best Doctor + yeti on the underground; Cybermen; Ice Warriors [Iththe Warriors}

Classic: the (original) Master, played by Roger Delgado.

Dud: all the stuff with Unit (ur-notion for the Initiative in Buffy? Only rubbish instead of good, obviously), and Pertwee himself (to me = Troughton nut). But Pertwee's ENEMIES were often grate (=Devils, Sea Devils: one of the Devils was called BOD!!)

Ten-ton dud: Tom "Overract why fucking don't you" Baker. But the Gallifrey/Time Lord business was often amusing.

Three-ton dud: Peter Davidson. BUT the ing on the first season of stories (esp. CASTROVALVA, abut timewarps and paradoxes, name taken from a lithograph by ESCHER = overlooked classic)

Hundred-ton duds: subsequent Doctors /Peter Cushing movies

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ing = writing

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, go on! Tom Baker's total overacting was what made him so brilliant! It just went along with the melodrama of sock monsters and models exploding with firecrackers, it just added to the charm of it somehow. My fave Doctor is a toss-up between him and Pertwee, probably just because that was the era I first fell in love with. Granted, much of the time, Pertwee was annoyingly grounded with the UNIT stuff (though much of the annoying miltarism of this period was balanced by the fact that Brigadeer "fwah fwah fwah" Leftbridge-Stewart was such a loveable bumbling twit who wanted to blow everything up.)

Castrovalva! Was that the one where they were trapped in the scarily moebius strip city that Adrik (ah, archetype of all indie mathsrock nerds of my heart...) discovered that he had mistakenly created with his mathematical formulae?

Oh, and here's a question: K-9, what think you? Super-cool uber gadget who always saved the day, or annoying cutesy ploy, the Dr. Who equivalent of Ewoks?

Man, I have always wished that I had a sonic screwdriver!

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

P.S. sorry, Troughton always looked to me like a puffin! Though I do have to admit, he had some of the best companions- that cute little mod girl was ace, and Jamie, that mad scotsman in the kilt... Those knees! Phwoar, etc!!!

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a Belle&Sebastian Wow-factor thing, tho, isn't it? Yr first, no, yr !second! is always held in specisal esteem? I always found Baker-era gadget-dom overdone. K9 was a pai9.

Castrovalva and Adrik: very possibly correct — of course, this era Who is NEVER repeated (cuz supposedly a decline on Pertwee/ Baker), plus my memory is swirling away like asteroids into a time discontinuity anyway, so I don't recall. Part of my mathrock reason for liking Adrik was that the maths was, erm, not utterly entirely bogus. (mathrock = mathmath in my case...)

Jo = my major crush-assistant, I suppose. Can't be: she always screamed and wuz scared. Who was the one who ACTUALLY DIED? Played by Jean Marsh (later of Upstairs Downstairs). Or am I tripping?

GOT IT! My major crush assistant was Zoe!! (This too is a Wow-factor thing...)

Sub-thread Q: lamest Dr Who assistant?

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

zoe = cute little mod girl

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Lamest assistant = Colin whassisface's backpacking American chick. Stupid, contrived and ANNOYING attempt to pander to the American market when, for fucks sake, the biggest Dr. Who APPEAL to yanks was the Anglophile factor.

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

As I recall she got her brain swapped with a slug. And was then replaced by Bonnie Langford.

Mark is right - it's your second. Peter Davison in my case. This theory probably falls down if applied to any post-Davison due to transcendental awfulness.

Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The depths of my fandom revealed:

Jean Marsh played Sara Kingdom in "The Dalek Masterplan" and has the distinction of being the only companion to join and die in the same story. (Of course, "The Dalek Masterplan" went on for 16 episodes or something like that...)

"Castrovalva" is definitely the one where the Master uses Adric to generate a trans-dimensional mathematical construct solely to trap a confused and newly-regenerated Doctor.

Patrick Troughton rocked the house as far as I can tell. The only stories of his I've really seen are "The Mind Robber" and "The War Games", though, so I don't have enough evidence to knock Davison outof the top spot. The Yeti were SORELY underused, though.

Frasier Hines, who played Jamie, was also on "Upstairs, Downstairs".

The Doctor had three companions die during the television series; Srar Kingdom, Katarina, and Adric. The books added Liz Shaw and Roslynn Forrester to this list, plus the Brigadier is now living out the rest of his life in an alternate dimension populated by faries. (No, really.)

The misfortune of the Peri character was teaming her with the sixth Doctor. Either forceful, grating personality could have worked, but both together were a SHOCKINGLY bad idea. Interestingly enough, the new fiction line has managed to not only completely salvage Peri and the sixth Doctor, but also the hideously misconceived Melanie Bush, who has gone from being a chirpy nightmare to one of the more capable people the Doctor has travelled with.

Worst companion? Victoria Waterfield, aka the extremely wet Victorian girl whose sole function was to scream, "Help me Jamie!" at every opportunity. They replaced her with Zoe for reason, folks...

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

As a kid I enjoyed it, the Tardis was cool, and K-9 kicked ass. I doubt sincerely if I could sit through more than 5 minutes of it today, I wouldn't want to ruin my childhood memories. Therefore, I shall not be purchasing the DVD box set.

james e l, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr. Who is the way to be. Today they spend money on stupid computer effects. Why didn't they realise cheap video effects are way better! Doctor who is so Add n to x! I love docotr who.

-- Mike Hanley, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone's BRAIN got replaced by Bonnie Langford? Glad I missed that: I'd STILL be behind the sofa today...

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone's BRAIN got replaced by Bonnie Langford?

No, but that would have been awesome! More sad fannishness:

Sixth Doctor, "Trial of a Timelord". The Doctor gets taken outof time by the Timelords and put on trial for being a general menace to the universe. As it transpires, he was pulled out of time as he was rushing to rescue Peri from having her brain sucked out and replaced with one from a slug-like dictator. Therefore, he wasn't there to save her and she was killed, becoming an evil pod person. The companion who ended up replacing her, Mel, was played by Bonnie Langford.

(At the end of the trial, it's strongly hinted that Peri was actually saved by one of the people fighting the evil slugs and ended up marrying him, which is why I didn't list her amongst the dead.)

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of BRANES... how about that Tom Baker episode where they had to go INSIDE THE DOCTOR'S BRANE!!! And it turned out to be just as pompous and overblown as Tom Baker's acting, which is what made the whole episode so brilliant. What was her name... (dammit, alcohol really does cause memory loss!) the cool Survateem warrior chick in the leather outfit... was attacked by a giant mathematical formula which came spinning out of his Left Brain as they crossed the hypothalamus. I mean... that's the sort of thing ONLY the writers of Dr. Who could come up with.

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That was LEELA, also known as My Long-Lost First Wife.

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Leela! Right, I knew it. Damn memory loss... she kicked ass, she did! I think that's another of the things that was so cool about Doctor Who. They had powerful female figures (Romana was easily as intelligent, if not moreso than the Doctor, Leela, despite her scanty atire, kicked serious ass) at a time when other science fiction was still treating women as intergalactic dolly birds for one night stands (Star Trek) or damsels in distress needing to be saved by the hero (Star Wars). As Dan points out, even the early annoying "save me" Victorian heroine types were replaced by resourceful, intelligent and strong women.

masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

though much of the annoying miltarism of this period was balanced by the fact that Brigadeer "fwah fwah fwah" Leftbridge-Stewart was such a loveable bumbling twit who wanted to blow everything up.

And he had a soft spot for Jo. There's a scene in "The Green Death", at some point after she announces her engagement to Dr Jones, where he glances at her as if to say 'if I were ten...fifteen years younger'. Quite touching really.

David, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't Leela reappear in Tenko, in more or less the same role (Tenko = all-female Burmese deathcamp TV drama w.Burt Kwouk as honourable camp boss under orders to be bastard...)?

The VERY FIRST companion was Susan, who was the doctor's DAUGHTER? No? She was interesting, it being 1963 and therefore pre- pop, let alone pre-Kate Millett: cuz she was SUPER-CLEVER, and the earth-boys were baffled and threatened and intrigued by this. But I don't remember her to look at since (a) B/W episodes never repeated; and (b) her character/look is overlaid by things I much later read in ancient second-hand TV comic-books and by the very repeated film with Bernard fucking Cribbins in it). (BC = cool, just not appropriate to this story...)

But I do remember a scene with her in it, which is poorly revisited in the film, when the white bedford van she is in (driven by a dalek-resistance soldier) is strafed by the giant dalek ship. Cuz where I lived and where my dad worked the staff van was a white bedford van, and when I was in it, I often used to check out that there was enough foliage near enough that I could jump out of the van — as Susan had — and roll to cover into it, shd the dalek ship appear and begin strafing.

That is all. (That is enough...)

An episode of Fireball XL5 gave me the all- time nightmares-for-week spooking, though.

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I could be really pathetic and list all the companions in order but I think I've scared enough people for one day.

Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

When I was very young, my sister's friend built a K9 out of Constructer Straws and paper which he dragged along behind him on a string pretty much everywhere he went. Accompanying his mother in a supermarket, he encountered none other than ... Tom Baker!

My memory of this is hazy, despite being told this story dozens of times in my youth, but by all accounts he was very nice, askign K9 why he wasn't in the tardis, who his friend was and so on. What a nice chap.

Magnus, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes: Sylvester [DanWillSupplyName], by contrast, would have stomped the pathetic object to splinters and punched the child in the throat.

mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

McCoy is the name you're looking for.

DG, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

BBC Online is doing some web Doctor who, although unfortunately with Sylvester McCoy.

Best series Genesis of the Daleks, but only cos a friend did it as a one man show. His interpretation of Davros was jumping around in a frying pan, tom Baker was a pan on the head.

tom Baker was the best imho.

Ace was very annoying though, and janet what's her name from Blue peter

Ed Lynch-Bell, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Woah...this entire thread(is that what this is called ?I'm new to this)is a revelation to me I have never been in the closet about being a Dr Who fan ,but its just that I rarely encounter another...nayhow..Susan was the Doctor's(notice the caps!)granddaughter... I could never decide who I preferred Tom Baker or Peter Davison..but without the assistants, gadgets etc. they wouldn't have been much and perhaps thats the appeal compared to the rest of them...Romana II(the blond one ) did alot for me,but Ace has gotta be my favourite companion by far...tho I'm regenerating ahead of myself here...just cos she was so gutsy...when I was a kid at school we'd play Dr Who and I remember throwing gold coins to destroy the cybermen who were after us...and being chased by daleks etc. I'd write more but I've gotta go have a colposcopy....why can't the world be DR WHO????????????????????????????

Sara Lee, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark S 's call on Troughton is spot-on. The best by a mile, although I suspect it's because we're of similar vintage. The Yeti on the underground had a scene where a policeman is found inside a phone box, covered in cobwebs with his face set in a mask of terror. I can still see that face. At MOMI's "Behind the Sofa" exhibition (8 or 9 years ago?) they ran a continuous loop of all the Doctors morphing into the next one. It also had bits of all the various versions of the theme tune running as the soundtrack. Mainly subtle tweaks from the Radiophonic boys and girls until a J-M Jarre-esque update in the late 1970's. Robin would no doubt know all the details.

Anyway, Jo (Katy Manning) destroyed and stomped on my pre-adolescent heart by marrying the dull Sgt. Benson in the Pertwee/Unit days. I've never ever recovered, never will and don't want to. A goddess.

Great call on Roger Delgado. A scary mutha in a very English way.

Dr. C, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Roger Delgado died in a car crash in Spain in (I think) 1971-2. I read the story in a tiny item in the Daily mail in my school library. Tho I was in that library EVERY WEEKDAY for three years and tho I always read the paper, this is the only story I recall. This and the (similarly sized) item about Ian Fleming's brother Peter dying!!

mark s, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr C: the remake you're thinking of was the work of Peter Howell in 1980, as the RW gave itself what could politely be described as an "80s corporate facelift".

Mark: my school library also always had the Mail. The librarian was a self-described "true blue" Tory, hmmm, what a surprise ...

Robin Carmody, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

To be honest, Robin, I approved: Mail = Peanuts, Express = Rupert the Bear, Mirror = The Perishers.

Taking sides: Peanuts vs The Perishers

mark s, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I KNEW you'd know this, Robin!

Dr.C, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I think the Peter Howell theme is fairly well-known among DW / RW circles (I only fit into the latter, not the former). And nothing divides opinion more: disciples of 80s mainstream production techniques *love* it, but everyone else ...

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Leela temporarily reappeared more recently as a phony-Italian with stroppy kids in Albert Square - Rosa DeMarco.

K-reg, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't Leela played by Louise Jameson? Also played Jim Bergerac's estate-agent girlfriend in er, "Bergerac".

Dr. C, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr C lowers the tone...

mark s, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I heart Louise Jameson. And Mary Tamm. And Janet Fielding. And Wendy Padbury. And Elisabeth Sladen. And *hangs head* Nicola Bryant.

Did you all see the mid-90's TV movie with Paul McGann and Daphne Ashbrook? Any comments?

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Was that the one where they invented a new enemy who moved faster than light and had no face? It was lame. The McGanns are the UK Baldwins, except that Canada has (inexplicably) failed to bomb their house yet.

mark s, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that was the Five Doctors, 1983.

Magnus, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Doctor Who = best TV theme music and visual ever. But Blake's 7 the better show. Or maybe not: Blake's 7 was more soap opera than tech based plots (not that I recall a single plot from either, other'n Blake's 7's final: plot = "everyone dies"). Anyhoo, both shows had alien robots made from bits of cardboard. And monsters that looked like random bits from a hardware store glued together: bolts, old circuit boards, couple rubber bands, strips of sandpaper, and a lick of paint. Those rock. (Cf. budget contrast w/ US counterpart Logan's Run.)

AP, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

McGanns = UK Baldwins? FEAR.

There's a great Doctor Who book floating out there called _Interference_ where the Doctor runs into an enemy who completely FUBAR's his past timeline. I love that idea and I'm kind of bummed out that the show never really exploited that aspect of time travel (ill-conceived Valeyard aside).

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I know it's lovely weather out and all that but surely some of the people who've arrived since June 26th 2001 have an opinion on Doctor Who?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Revive these threads as well, go on...

Doctor Who assistants - Search/Destroy
The Man That Ruined Doctor Who
Doctor Who Weekly/Monthly comic strips - Search/Destroy

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

MIND FITE!!!

Grr! (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

HSA claims to *HATE* Sci-Fi. Yet, on the basis of Castrovalva, even he had to admit that Dr. Who was pretty darn cool. Hah!

kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't seen that. Sarah when I get a place you must come round and watch some hot Doctor action.

Castrovalva is rubbish though!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The best record in my mum's record collection is probably her 7" of the original Doctor Who theme.

The VERY FIRST companion was Susan, who was the doctor's DAUGHTER? No? She was interesting, it being 1963 and therefore pre- pop, let alone pre-Kate Millett: cuz she was SUPER-CLEVER, and the earth-boys were baffled and threatened and intrigued by this. But I don't remember her to look at since (a) B/W episodes never repeated

I remember the surviving B/W episodes being shown on UK Gold when UK Gold first started, in the early 90s. I think Susan told everyone that she was the doctor's granddaughter, but this might just have been a ploy to explain why he was her guardian to boring Earth people.

My favourite Doctor Who related thing is probably Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, a Douglas Adams novel put together from late-70s Doctor Who scripts that were never broadcast. (as was the third Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy book)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Castrovalva has 2 fun episodes, 2 boring episodes, a rubbish disguise, Michael Sheard, and a disappointing special effect which probably sounded great in the script. perfect.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The grebtest cameo appearance EVER is in CITY OF DEATH (this == my fave Dr Who story I think, apart from FACE OF EVIL) where John Cleese and er.. some bird pop up in the Louvre, analysing the Tardis as a GRATE ARTWORK - someone pls fetch Turner Prize stat!

Exquisite. Simply... exquisite.

Tico - The BRANE OF MORBIUS should only be attempted after a couple of cans of RELAXANT in my opinion cos it is very silly. Also you will be annoyed by the rubbish assistant who falls over a lot. The priestesses are brilliant. But yes I am up for DOCTOR ACTION.

Secret flame! Secret fire!

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Long interview with Moffat about his comedy writing career; he veers from noting that he became more successful when he stopped writing comedy, so he shouldn't return, to counter-arguing with himself that Sherlock is actually joke-a-minute at the script level, and from there to

Russell and I were interviewing each other for Doctor Who Magazine recently and in the process of doing that we suddenly noticed that we made Doctor Who a lot funnier than it used to be. You think of old Doctor Who, it's not very funny. Even Tom Baker takes it mostly seriously. Why did we go so funny?

The modern version of Doctor Who, I think one of its big successes is actually that it's a funny show. If you don't understand the plot - nobody does! If you don't really care about the monsters, nobody over the age of twelve does. If you don't care about any of that, you're there for some first-class gags delivered by some first-class people. There's a lot of comedy in Doctor Who and, from me, that's paying a huge compliment and is not meant to be insulting, though some people even now will be contemplating an inflammatory blog. It is not knocking it, Doctor Who is a funny show and The Doctor is a funny character. Any character played consecutively by Peter Capaldi and Jodie Whittaker is a funny character.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 11 January 2021 04:09 (one month ago) link

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— Max Curtis (@MaxCCurtis) January 12, 2021

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 23:09 (one month ago) link

RTD's new series, It's A Sin (set in young gay 1980s Manchester), will include an episode in which one of the leads gets a part in a McCoy-era Who serial.

https://i.imgur.com/CAbSAPK.jpg

(Davies' Regression Of The Daleks is an imaginary sequel to Resurrection.)

Show starts Friday 22nd on Channel 4 (and maybe HBO Max), with all five eps on All4 immediately afterward.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 08:50 (one month ago) link

OK, I'm sold.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 10:57 (one month ago) link

Including a Meddling Monk story where he's listening to disco in his TARDIS, goes to 1917 to play "Ra-Ra-Rasputin" for the lols, accidentally buggers up human history, and has to regenerate into Rasputin to set things back on course.
The Meddler to be played by Matt Berry.

Holy shit

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 11:22 (one month ago) link

ikr

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 11:40 (one month ago) link

instead we get john bishop

koogs, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 12:22 (one month ago) link

{Actually adapted from the BBC Micro game, before sic leaps in with a correction)

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 18 January 2021 00:49 (one month ago) link

bring back the pink TARDIS you cowards

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 18 January 2021 01:32 (one month ago) link

how it started: carrot juice

how it's going:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLb-rlZQA9k

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:37 (one month ago) link

Cringe but also <333 which I suppose is very Sylvester McCoy

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:48 (one month ago) link

I loved every second of that

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 00:53 (one month ago) link

I don’t remember that terrifying melting head but I definitely saw Dragonfire first time round, aged 9, and was thrilled that Bonnie Langford was finally leaving. I guess it was the 80s and there were melting heads in everything back then.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:57 (one month ago) link

Impressive grue fx for bbc of that era

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:59 (one month ago) link

I love these blu-ray sets so much, and the folks they've rounded up for the commentaries and behind the sofa stuff look great on this one

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:33 (one month ago) link

Yeah, that head's one of the best FX of the classic series ever. Or maybe it just stands out because the rest of that serial is absolutely atrocious visually!

Love the idea of Colin Baker watching and making fun of Season 24 as a bonus feature on the Season 24 box set. (Also the "let's not bother watching Time & The Rani" gag in the Sylv & Bonnie coda.)

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:39 (one month ago) link

Effects from that era that I remember as being good from when they first aired were basically the melting head and The Destroyer from The Battlefield, who was wisely mostly kept in the dark. And that creepy hand thing the Chief Clown does, though that wouldn't have cost them anything extra.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 January 2021 03:56 (one month ago) link

That promo video is great. Have they done that for previous DVDs?

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 22 January 2021 04:55 (one month ago) link

Yes, I'll try and chase up some others.

They landed a whole-ass Dalek space shuttle in a real school playground in Remembrance. That still looks like "how tf did they manage this?"

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 05:21 (one month ago) link

This box will make Mel the second companion to have all her stories out on Blu-Ray, after the almost equally beloved Adric.
Every story in the set has alternate extended editions and optional new 5.1 surround sound mixes AND isolated scores. Also not mentioned in the video: twenty-five hours of studio footage (edited highlights of a hundred hrs!).

Other blu-ray promo videos:

Ace Returns! - Season 26 promo, the first of these

Jo and Cliff Jones return to Llanfairfach - Season 10 promo

The Home Assistants Of Death?! - Season 14 promo (also see the last 30 seconds of this trailer)

Jo Grant vs the Autons... Again?! - Season 8 promo

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 08:43 (one month ago) link

I liked the Jovanka Airways one.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 22 January 2021 10:06 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQEvPJC8AEI

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 22 January 2021 10:14 (one month ago) link

from one of the folks who works on the blu-ray bonus features:

My favourite thing about Season 24 is that they wanted to have Sylvester McCoy playing the spoons but his first story was set in space so they had to design SPACE SPOONS. God bless @LeeBinding for including them on the cover, but we should be issuing them as free gifts too! pic.twitter.com/6HrVNRjAE2

— Chris Chapman (@ChrisChapman81) January 22, 2021

and the perils of presenting these programmes in high-as-possible definition, when the makers knew that all the TVs at home would be rounded at the corners so you'd never see anything at the edge of frame:

What makes it worse is that it's such a wonderful, witty shot - and all it needed was a tiny crop to hide the fault!

— Chris Chapman (@ChrisChapman81) January 22, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 10:19 (one month ago) link

And some earlier blu-ray trailers I hadn't seen before (lower yr expectations tbh) (also xpost):

Season 18 Announcement Trailer (Galactic Glitter Package Tours advert voiced by Tom)

The Season 19 Safety Video with Tegan Jovanka

The Sixth Doctor is on trial AGAIN!

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 10:20 (one month ago) link

how come I didn't know about these Blu-Ray trailers until now, this is seriously fantastic

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:46 (one month ago) link

The 24 Carat one has really raised the bar for future seasons.

(accidentally posted the followup on that second Chapman tweet - click through for a Delta & The Bannermen snippet)

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:40 (one month ago) link

Thanks for finding them. I think the newest one is still the best. I have 3 of the blu-ray sets now, but I've only watched half of "Battlefield" on them so far.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:41 (one month ago) link

RTD's new series, It's A Sin (set in young gay 1980s Manchester), will include an episode in which one of the leads gets a part in a McCoy-era Who serial.

(Davies' Regression Of The Daleks is an imaginary sequel to Resurrection.)

Show starts Friday 22nd on Channel 4 (and maybe HBO Max), with all five eps on All4 immediately afterward.

Bit off-topic, but have just watched the first episode of this and it was really quite good, best thing he's done in ages.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:45 (one month ago) link

I haven't gotten around to Midsummer Night's Dream yet, but the other three of his last four things were great-to-fantastic.

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:02 (one month ago) link

It’s incredible, I’m full of anticipation and dread for the next episodes in equal measure.

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:07 (one month ago) link

I missed it, the HEAVILY rotated trailers made it look like every gay drama ever, but I'll give it a shot if people say it's good.

chap, Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:07 (one month ago) link

Just bumped across the end of ep 2 of Remembrance on TV (streaming free on Pluto): the special FX of the Dalek starting to teleport into Shoreditch, all transparent and pink-brain-mutant showing first, then the scene of another Dalek chasing and shooting at Ace in the science lab, are also pretty great.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:38 (one month ago) link

For those that might appreciate some classic-era nerdery, the original Myth Makers interviews have gone up on Amazon Prime, hours and hours of the stuff, and a lot of supplemental episodes too.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 24 January 2021 18:05 (one month ago) link

It's A Sin has an US premiere date: all five eps on HBO Max on Feb 18th.

(Am up to #4; cried through most of 3.)

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 08:16 (one month ago) link

Apologies if this constitutes unwelcome self-promotion (and please delete/ignore if it does), but I'm doing a live Doctor Who podcast at 8pm GMT tonight on Twitch (audio podcast to follow afterwards) looking at The Ark, Caves of Androzani and Heaven Sent + asking if they can tell us anything about the Very Strange Times we're living in right now.

Streaming here: https://twitch.tv/illexplainlaterdw

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:58 (one month ago) link

An article about the Daleky bit in It's A Sin, with some poignant details, director interview, and several irritating errors: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a35347177/its-a-sin-doctor-who-crossover-scene/

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 03:59 (three weeks ago) link

Peter Davison's home audio booth for lockdown recordings.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 8 February 2021 19:06 (two weeks ago) link

There was a Love & Monsters tweetalong today, with the special commentary coming from the nine-year-old kid who created the Absorbaloff for a Blue Peter competition.

While Abzorbaloff wasn't originally inspired by the Slitheen, I like the world building and the similarities are obvious. He was actually inspired by boogers, nightmares and the Simpsons. #LINDAunited

— Channel Pup - Objectively Good YouTuber (@channel_pup) February 14, 2021

Ha. That's quite a slab in the face. Poor Ursula. Getting literally stoned in Elton's apartment. #LINDAunited

— Channel Pup - Objectively Good YouTuber (@channel_pup) February 14, 2021

In the spirit of valentine's Day, fun fact: Abzorbaloff gets auto-erotic pleasure from absorbing people. #LINDAunited

— Channel Pup - Objectively Good YouTuber (@channel_pup) February 14, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 15 February 2021 02:47 (one week ago) link

well i just learned a lot from the "blue peter" wiki

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 February 2021 03:05 (one week ago) link

Perhaps the most important revelation from this weekend's newspapers. #DoctorWho pic.twitter.com/NqqAqlWF59

— Nathaniel Tapley (@Natt) February 18, 2021

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 05:32 (one week ago) link

Haha good god. Course he pretty much got his way with Yrcanos, eventually. That eyeliner was...dubious.

Incidentally, I've been ploughing through tons of 60s and 70s tokusatsu stuff recently, and was very happy to find that the bad guy in King Kong Escapes is an Asian Doctor Who

JimD, Friday, 19 February 2021 10:41 (one week ago) link

As pointed out in the comments, Troughton's first thought was to play The Doctor in blackface too:

"My original idea was to black up and wear a big turban and brass earrings and a big grey beard and do it like the Arabian Knights. I thought that would be a wonderful idea, but when I'd finished, I could shave off, take the black off, take the turban off and nobody would know who I was and I wouldn't be typecast."

And of course he did brownface as Salamander in Enemy of the World.

Brian Blessed hated Hartnell and almost decked him once:

I couldn't find this clip of Brian Blessed talking about how he once almost beat the crap out of William Hartnell anywhere on the internet, so here it is. pic.twitter.com/4vqgLOqu1G

— Paul Cornish (@PaulGCornish) August 13, 2020

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 19 February 2021 11:07 (one week ago) link

The makeup aspect / white actors aside, it's notable that both Troughton and Blessed supposedly thought in 1966 "It is FINALLY time for a Doctor Who of colour!"

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:09 (one week ago) link

uh

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:13 (one week ago) link

I suppose that is one way to interpret that

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:13 (one week ago) link

Any day now.

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:34 (one week ago) link

(I’ve never seen any aspect of the Blessed story before; Troughton’s may be an exaggerated ‘80s convention anecdote - he doesn’t seem to have actually pitched doing the show in blackface and turban to the production team.)

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:38 (one week ago) link

"It is FINALLY time for a (white guy to play a)Doctor Who of colour!"

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 February 2021 20:02 (one week ago) link

.@Paul_Burgin has spotted Peter Davison in the background as John Lennon performed 'Instant Karma' on Top of the Pops. pic.twitter.com/sN5ex9syaZ

— Jonny Morris (@jonnymorris1973) February 21, 2021

stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 13:07 (four days ago) link


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