the William Friedkin poll

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From Sonny & Cher and Pinter to the freaky, energetic twin Letts adaptations. Pretty varied career. Lots of great stuff here, some trash, ad a whole lot I've yet to see (including TLADILA). I've omitted the TV stuff.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
To Live and Die In LA (1985) 16
The French Connection (1971) 12
The Exorcist (1973) 10
Cruising (1980) 4
Good Times (1967) 3
Sorcerer (1977) 1
The Boys in the Band (1970) 1
The Birthday Party (1968) 1
The Hunted (2003) 0
Bug (2010) 0
Rules of Engagement (2000) 0
Jade (1995) 0
Blue Chips (1994) 0
The Guardian (1990) 0
Rampage (1987, released 1992) 0
Deal of the Century (1983) 0
The Brink's Job (1978) 0
The Night They Raided Minsky's (1968) 0
Killer Joe (2012) 0


Simon H., Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

To Live and Die in L.A. is a must-see. Totally morally fucked, really well shot (in a super '80s style that's even better than Michael Mann's) and Willem Dafoe does great early arch-villain work. I also love Cruising and Sorcerer, and The Hunted and Bug were both surprisingly strong. Wish Sorcerer would get a decent DVD release.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

I liked Bug a lot; not entirely sure what to make of Killer Joe, but I laughed a lot, so that's something.

Simon H., Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

I voted for The Exorcist, which I suspect is too obvious to win this. I like The French Connection, but I never felt compelled to see it a second time. Ditto To Live and Die in L.A. Haven't more than half of what's listed.

clemenza, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

seen Connection, Exorcist, Cruising, LA, The Guardian, Blue Chips and Jade - prolly voting LA

da croupier, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

I've seen 4 of his first 5 films, then nothing but TL&DiLA and Bug.

Would probably vote for The French Connection (despite the queasy bigot appeal) or the Pinter or Crowley adaps.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

ISTR Rampage being some real bullshit but have only seen it the once, so whatever. Still haven't seen Sorcerer.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

there's several movies I like a bit here but the Exorcist is the best of them by a very long distance.

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp Crowley, John or Crowley, Aleister? If the former, it sounds like theres a Friedkin film I need to track down.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Mart

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

to live and die in l.a. is incoherent nonsense and i am literally amazed it was taken seriously.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

no way 'bug' came out in 2010

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

& 'killer joe' is out in 2 wks it looks like

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

whoops yeah Bug was '06.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

and yeah I timed the poll so that interested parties might have time to check that one out.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

was tempted by a few lol votes but gotta go with French Connection, its almost unfair how good it is

really wanna see Killer Joe, even tho I wasn't too high on Bug

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Just finished re-watching The Hunted. If your collection of Manly Man Movies doesn't include this DVD, your collection is incomplete. Tommy Lee Jones makes a stone knife like a caveman! Benicio del Toro makes a knife out of an iron bar! Then they fight!

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/WilliamFriedkin/status/214143633874616320

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

to live and die in la is a masterpiece (r wood offers a gd critique of it, somewhere or other, and of course wood locks onto the many scenes/images throughout the film of money being forged/duplicated/circulated.)

iirc, friedkin issued Rampage in two different versions - the first, anti-death penalty, later revised to be pro-death pen?

Ward Fowler, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Deal of the Century is a 1983 American comedy film directed by William Friedkin and starring Chevy Chase, Gregory Hines, and Sigourney Weaver.

The film follows the adventures of several arms dealers that compete to sell weapons to a South American dictator

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

so theyre releasing killer joe nc-17 huh? only open in ny this wk & a handful of other cities next wkend

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

missed a chance to see Killer Joe, plus Friedkin, Big Mac and Gershon @ LincCtr the other night!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (2 hours ago)

really? for a time it was one of those on-HBO-every-15-minutes movies

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

morbs you've never seen cruising?

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

as much as I love TLADILA I've gotta go with the exorcist, it's his batshit piece de resistance

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

I have not seen Cruising. No one said it was any good til about ten years ago, and I'm v suspicious of stuff like that.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

cruising's worth a watch imo. i dont know if i'd call it good but its pretty wild

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

the clips I've seen from it make it look REALLY ridiculous ... otoh Germs on the sdtk

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I don't like bad n' wild

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

cruising had got that particular brand of sleazy friedkin atmosphere and good momentum and it's hilarious as fukk, mostly unintentional.

omar little, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

Cruising is classic heteroporn.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

no wonder Eric likes it!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

I saw that Cruising will be on streaming Netflix as of next week.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

let's shsre a couple poppers and watch it

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHdW2Znj9s

buzza, Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

cruising had got that particular brand of sleazy friedkin atmosphere and good momentum and it's hilarious as fukk, mostly unintentional.

― omar little, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

i saw cruising when it came out, pretty much remember it this way^^ emphasis on the unintended lols

voting French Connection

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 28 July 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

I have amazingly seen but two of these, so I voted for the Exorcist.

The New Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 28 July 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Rewatching L.A. now. For being released at the height of Mann-dom it uses its splashes of orange and the Wang Chung soundtrack with real flair (Year of the Dragon it's not). And I'm a sucker for showing characters at work, doing things they love.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XDH3o5Wgs

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

david caruso does the best acting of his career in that car

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

boy did Jade offend Roger and Gene.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

from imdb:

According to Joe Eszterhas's autobiography he hated the final film. Director William Friedkin changed Eszterhas's script so much, he threatened to remove his name from the credits. Paramount settled with him by giving him a "blind script deal" worth two to four Million Dollars. Later, Friedkin admitted that he did virtually rewrote the script, but Friedkin also said that this film was his most favorite film he had ever made.

da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

that are interesting grammar

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

Lew Edwards: I do the fucking, I never get fucked!

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David Corelli: Cristal, Baluga, Wolfgang Puck... it's a fuckhouse.

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da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

I've told you guys this before, but you all really need to read the original shooting script for Jade. The final 10 pages are among the funniest things I've ever read.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

David (to Edwards): If anything happens to her, I have a roll of film of you and a dead hooker.

Governor Edwards: What if something happens to you?

David: Something is going to happen to me. (he smiles) I'm going to run for mayor next year.

Governor Edwards: Well sir-- you've got my endorsement

David looks at him-- it's his turn to smirk.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 10 August 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

looks like 'killer joe' is going much wider 2morrow. the bow tie cinema near me is getting it

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 August 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

Shoulda made the poll close about a week later. Oh, well. Can't imagine it garnering many votes, but it's def one of the more distinctive and entertaining flicks I've seen this year.

Simon H., Friday, 10 August 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

Sure that's not about Michael Cimino?

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

lol

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

He just wants his damn croissants, is all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

watched rampage - is like an overlong & really muddled law & order. 1st ~10 mins are kinda scary

http://www.thespinningimage.co.uk/cultfilms/images/7493.jpg

unfortunate, cuz it looks like there was some good facts 2 work w/ from the guy it's based on wiki

Once alone in the apartment, Chase began to capture, kill, and disembowel various animals, which he would then devour raw, sometimes mixing the raw organs with Coca-Cola in a blender and drinking the concoction. Chase reasoned that by ingesting the creatures he was preventing his heart from shrinking.

Chase granted a series of interviews with Robert Ressler, during which he spoke of his fears of Nazis and UFOs, claiming that although he had killed, it was not his fault; he had been forced to kill to keep himself alive, which he believed any person would do. He asked Ressler to give him access to a radar gun, with which he could apprehend the Nazi UFOs, so that the Nazis could stand trial for the murders. He also handed Ressler a large amount of macaroni and cheese, which he had been hoarding in his pants pockets, believing that the prison officials were in league with the Nazis and attempting to kill him with poisoned food.[5]

johnny crunch, Monday, 22 July 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

o plus grace zabriskie is p good in it

johnny crunch, Monday, 22 July 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Deal of the Century is a 1983 American comedy film directed by William Friedkin and starring Chevy Chase, Gregory Hines, and Sigourney Weaver.

The film follows the adventures of several arms dealers that compete to sell weapons to a South American dictator

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

after years of asking I've literally met no one who's seen this.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 27, 2012 4:52 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i watched this, mostly mediocre but 1 good wallace shawn scene and chevys dimple is in full force. plus its prescient abt unmanned drones. for the life of me, i cant figure out y 'santa claus is coming to town' plays over the closing credits

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Friedkin directing Pinter's The Birthday Party onstage in L.A. this winter.

Cast includes Tim Roth and Steven Berkoff.

tbd (Eazy), Monday, 30 December 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A certain critic wrote on FB about Cruising, "It's amazing what you notice if you watch this movie without huffing poppers the entire time."

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link

Sorcerer Blu-Ray coming in April. I've already pre-ordered my copy.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

I'll finally get a chance to see Sorcerer in the spring. Not sure if it'll be one screening (in which case I'll work hard to show up on the right night) or a few. Hoping Friedkin's there at least once, even though (or maybe because...) some of the quotes on this thread point to something of a disconnect with regards to his own place in film history.

clemenza, Monday, 17 March 2014 03:30 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sorcerer is well done--hard-nosed without being silly--and I can see why people advocate for it. (Putting aside Friedkin's deluded claim that the film's failure was Star Wars' fault.) I just watched and appreciated it--never really cared where it was going, only felt the tension viscerally maybe once, on the bridge. Scheider's really good, so are Bruno Cremer and the guy who hires them all. (Spotted Joe Spinell--I think he was complaining that someone was trying to bust his chops.) Until the end credits, less Tangerine Dream than I thought there'd be. (The Tangs, I think Lester Bangs called them.) I fully expected a Huston/Kubrick ending, but I didn't think it would happen off-camera and seem like an afterthought.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 April 2014 04:47 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Good 30-min interview with Alec Baldwin:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/htt-william-friedkin/

I know some Civil War re-enactors you might want to talk to (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 02:39 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

this is brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmihQf9WmDk

piscesx, Sunday, 22 November 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally watched The Boys in the Band today, which I'd always assumed was one of those things that I should see more for historical reasons than anything else, and was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. A time capsule, obviously, but one whose portrayal of queerness as a social, emotional and political state feels far more vital, to me, than something like the watchable but ultimately frivolous Looking (the first season, anyway; haven't seen the second). Only Kenneth Nelson's showy final act breakdown grates a bit.

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link

on an emotional level. I think it's somewhat less of a time capsule than it appears on the surface; people still are trapped in forms of self-loathing... shameless archiving:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-boys-in-the-band

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

The Brink's Job is wildly uneven, but damn is Warren Oates great in his two big scenes.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 04:57 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Second watch of TLADILA is great value

So many....moments

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 October 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Sorcerer on limited reissue in the Uk this weekend and out in a fancy pants 4K Blu in a week or 2. Some people go MENTAL for this film.
Not ilx clearly tho..

piscesx, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

I love it. Bought the US Blu-Ray when it came out either last year or earlier this year.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

sorceror is fucking amazing

What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I finally watched Cruising; it is a mess o' shit

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 05:21 (six years ago) link

I suppose I'd find out in Friedkin's commentary track why he had multiple actors play the killer(s)?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link

I do approve of using Willy DeVille and The Germs in the bar sequences instead of disco

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

perceptive essay imho

https://www.cineaste.com/fall2013/from-the-archives-cruising/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:21 (six years ago) link

Sorcerer rules.

Simon H., Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:22 (six years ago) link

I suppose I'd find out in Friedkin's commentary track why he had multiple actors play the killer(s)?

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

Because he was cheating?

I saw this for the second time - and first time on a big screen - last summer and it struck me as far more superficial than it seemed on first viewing. The ambiguity that pops up suddenly in the final scene is entirely unearned.

I never think dance club scenes in movies look authentic, and this film is no exception, even though the leather bar scenes were supposedly filled out with their real-life patrons. There was just too much going on at the same time, when in reality (I'm educatedly guessing) those places would be boring most of the time.

Josefa, Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link

well, drama is life w/ the dull bits excised etc

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 December 2017 09:20 (six years ago) link

tbf they go 'ambiguous' in Cruising way b4 final scene.

Friedkin also said Pacino wanted to get the 'fashionable gay haircut' of '79, and it turned out so badly they delayed production for a month. I'd like to see a still!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

see, James Franco wouldn't make that mistake

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

he'd make others, tho possibly not as many as Friedkin did.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

re ambiguity, supposedly the specific ambiguity you get full-on in the final shot is something that was better supported in the 40 minutes that had to be cut out of the film to avoid an X rating. Yeah, it's not hard to see where Friedkin was going wrt that idea much earlier on, but there's kind of a lack of hard evidence I'd say.

Wikipedia quotes Friedkin as saying the excised 40 minutes would have made the film both more and less ambiguous.

Josefa, Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

what the hell

Simon H., Wednesday, 21 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

I caught Bug a few weeks ago and thought it was terrific. Shannon & Judd were an unholy mess.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Thinking about Killer Joe still makes me smile.

I hope that in the future, when someone is talking about "The Church", a bystander's first assumption will be that you're talking about the rock band, but their second guess will be Thomas Hayden Church.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

i finally saw sorcerer last week. for a minute i'm like, why on earth do they launch this hare-brained scheme to retrieve this ancient nitro. they're an evil oil company, it can't be too hard for them to scare up something else to blow up the well with! and then i'm like, actually, that's exactly the kind of bone-stupid short-sighted greedy corner-cutting decision that an evil oil company would make - fair dos friedkin, fair dos

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

have you seen The Wages of Fear?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

i don't remember if Clouzot was more 'plausible'

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

i have! on a terrible .avi file downloaded from somewhere nefarious. i need to see it for real.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

i don't remember if Clouzot was more 'plausible'

Was meaning to rewatch this recently but RIP FilmStruck. Although Mubi is doing a Clouzot series now, but don’t think I saw that one on there, yet.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat is going on in Sorcerer???

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

truckdriving iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

the second hour was p cool, but
WHO are these guys and WHY are they doing this and for WHAT???
I haven't seen Wages of Fear

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

you better flap to it

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

they are desperate no-hopers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

it's an insane, suicidal mission that makes no sense - exactly the sort of thing a rapacious oil company would extort its criminally underpaid workers to sign up for

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

read a little about Friedkin's plan to get an all star cast... I love Roy Scheider but this would've worked much better with McQueen/Mitchum and Mastroianni... the almost complete excision of exposition here would work with stars. but even the mission and who it's for and why is unclear

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

the first part of the movie lays out the backstories of each of the four to show how their unhealthy risk tolerance has landed them in Porvenir; driving nitro-laden trucks over impossible roads seems like the logical next step

Wages of Fear is the better film, but I prefer Sorcerer for the Tangerine Dream score

Brad C., Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

which is really under-used - what little is left is awesome!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

watched Sorcerer for the first time (thanks Criterion), pretty amazing movie. i like the whole cast but especially Scheider (obv) and Cremer (great face). looks great, score is incredible, all the location shooting is fantastic. my one quibble with it is the pacing/structure. him adding backstory intros for three of the characters means they don't get into the trucks until the second hour of the movie, it feels like it needs a little more in the trucks. i'd leave what he has but add another 20ish minutes of truck action. iirc more of Wages of Fear proportionally is devoted to the truck stuff

na (NA), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 19:24 (two weeks ago) link


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