Which of the Indiana Jones sequels is the best?

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Because everyone who isn't totally insane thinks the first is best but no one can agree on which of the next two are the next-best. Including the Phantom Menace entry for kicks.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
"Junior?" 56
"[A bunch of Chinese] ... Anything Goes!" 24
The Refrigerator 2


Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:54 (eight years ago) link

And then we can stop going back and forth on this endlessly on every other movie thread.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

Well when you put the choices like THAT...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

... it's STILL "Temple of Doom"

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

Pretty certain we already settled this

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

Too much white noise clouding the debate.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Loved it when Indiana hid inside Chicago Bears legend William Perry.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (eight years ago) link

... it's STILL "Temple of Doom"

― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:56 PM (2 minutes ago)

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Oh, and also the poll got it wrong.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (eight years ago) link

if lucas and spielberg can both agree that temple of doom was bad, it's like getting bush to agree that iraq was a bad idea, so it's practically settled law by now.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link

Including the Phantom Menace entry for kicks.

I lied. I included it because it's not the worst entry among these three.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:01 (eight years ago) link


everyone who isn't totally insane thinks the first is best

mmph.

The 2s almost always have it: Frankenstein, Superman, Star Wars, Alien, Star Trek etc.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:02 (eight years ago) link

I used to think Temple of Doom was awesome. But Willie and Short Round just make me u_u now. that being said, Kali Ma is pretty fkn cool. and the eyeball soup and whatnot

but it's probably Junior.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I never said I wasn't insane, Morbs.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

The second is the best and Kate Capeshaw is one of my favorite post-screwball screwballs ("Ohh I broke a nail...").

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

last crusade 4 lyfe

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:06 (eight years ago) link

Apparently the only way I like screwball is it if's accompanied by chilled monkey brains.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Gimme your poll.

Why?

Cuz I'm gonna THROW IT UP IN IT

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Apparently the only way I like screwball is it if's accompanied by chilled monkey brains.

A hair away from the out of context thread.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

ahhhh

snake SURPRIIIIZE

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah but that snake/elephant trunk was p lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

hmm I remember a lot more funny things from Doom than Crusade

but then again

JOONYAH

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

I don't remember Sylvester Stallone in Last Crusade

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

last crusade is hell boring

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Whenever the indentikit valkyrie Nazi is on screen I hope the zeppelin falls on her ("See? Gittee as a schoolboy!" argh fuck you DIE).

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:29 (eight years ago) link

Love all three (refuse to acknowledge the existence of The Fridge), going Last Crusade because I saw it in the theater and it blew my mind.

Aryan femme fatale was a babe.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:29 (eight years ago) link

seems her name was Alison Doody.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:30 (eight years ago) link

if lucas and spielberg can both agree that temple of doom was bad, it's like getting bush to agree that iraq was a bad idea, so it's practically settled law by now.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure they both said The Crystal Skull was "the best Indy movie yet!"

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Say what you will about Crystal Skull, there were at least a dozen truly memorable indignities on the franchise I could've used in "The Refrigerator"s place.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:33 (eight years ago) link

The 2s almost always have it: Frankenstein, Superman, Star Wars, Alien, Star Trek etc.

Morbz is OTM here, in general (left out Batman lol)

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:37 (eight years ago) link

'I'm pretty sure they both said The Crystal Skull was "the best Indy movie yet!"'
spielberg thought it was so bad, he said the refrigerator was his idea to protect lucas.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:41 (eight years ago) link

I guess Morbs counts The Godfather Part II as a chapter in one movie.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Nah, just that the first is better.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Would not be surprised to find that the hoi polloi don't agree with Morbs on the 2's theory.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:44 (eight years ago) link

The 2s almost always have it: Frankenstein, Superman, Star Wars, Alien, Star Trek etc.

Morbz is OTM here, in general (left out Batman lol)

no, only on rare occasions do sequels clearly surpass their predecessors. agree on frankenstein and star trek, but that's about it.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:51 (eight years ago) link

are you serious?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:51 (eight years ago) link

Superman II, The Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, Bride of -- leagues better than their predecessors.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:52 (eight years ago) link

superman and superman ii both suck. empire strikes back and star wars are both great. alien is better than aliens.

agree about bride, as i said.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Superman II, Empire, Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors (disagree w Morbz re: Alien)

xp

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

and Godfather II is better than I

this sort of only applies to non-horror genres tho imho

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:54 (eight years ago) link

okay, i'll grant superman ii, but it's not good enough to care about or haggle over, imo

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:55 (eight years ago) link

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"Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:56 (eight years ago) link

i still haven't seen crystal skull. and haven't seen 2 & 3 since i was a kid. voted temple

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:58 (eight years ago) link

Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors

these are interesting cases. both of the batman sequels are longer, more ambitious and much more interesting than their predecessors. otoh, they're both a bit shapeless, narratively. i do like them better than what they followed, though they're both messes with GREAT detailing.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:59 (eight years ago) link

oh cool this thread turned into a kevin smith script

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

do I have to derail this thread with lame Dark Nought jokes

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

Dork Knight iirc

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:03 (eight years ago) link

cool

adam, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:17 (four years ago) link

It's just distracting, since the FX of the first two, especially along those lines, are pretty solid. Morbs, maybe you know: why did the look of late 80s Hollywood look so bad? Makeup, lighting, etc. Sort of ... greasy and sweaty? Film stock? Drugs?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:40 (four years ago) link

Made for VHS

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:49 (four years ago) link

Some shonky effects in Temple of Doom as well.

chap, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:56 (four years ago) link

mine car dummy shots are hilar

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:57 (four years ago) link

what are the bad FX in the last crusade? that zeppelin scene?
actually really enjoyed the last crusade when i watched it last year (plenty of nostalgia there, of course, but it was pleasant to revisit)

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:58 (four years ago) link

Last Crusade has the best screenplay of the original three, lots of really witty dialogue and the father/son relationship is very well drawn, but I prefer the other two anyway.

chap, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:01 (four years ago) link

Oh, tons of fun. But basically any vehicle chases. Cars, boats, planes, blimps, trains, etc. Plus blades, animals on the circus train. Pretty frequent.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:02 (four years ago) link

Xpost

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:02 (four years ago) link

Relevant list? [huge]
http://i.imgur.com/o1n7Dn9.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:05 (four years ago) link

Xpost Invisible bridge illusion at end is great though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:05 (four years ago) link

xpost: weird it got compressed, maybe this works:
https://i.redd.it/epub0ba5st8x.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:06 (four years ago) link

What is that measuring?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:12 (four years ago) link

I've grown to love Raiders slightly more, but Last Crusade was my definitive Indy movie as a kid, since it was the only one of the original three I saw in theatres. I had watched the hell outta the first two on cable/VHS, so that by the time LC was released, it had been built up into a major Event in my life (if my family didn't go on opening night, we definitely went opening weekend), and it didn't disappoint.

I really do think that the Indy movies were my Star Wars, which always felt more like my older cousins' thing (I remember them being super pumped to go see Jedi when it was released and me being told I was too young to go) and, even if I do like them as films (talking about the original trilogy, of course), I never fully embraced or cared about to the degree of seemingly every other male born after 1964 or thereabouts.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:13 (four years ago) link

don't know much about the 'look' of late '80s Hollywood product (except i generally prefer film to DCP, of course).

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:30 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

BBC showed all four over Easter.

I thought TEMPLE OF DOOM would be worth trying again. Sadly I was wrong - it was actually worse than I remembered. A film they wouldn't make now, and on this occasion that's a good thing.

KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL I saw for the first time. Remarkably bad. Sad that something that started so terrifically was reduced to this. I ended up wondering what had happened to basic action storytelling from c.1981 to 2008 - such a decline.

I didn't watch the other two, which I'm surer than ever are the best.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:13 (one year ago) link

I ended up wondering what had happened to basic action storytelling from c.1981 to 2008


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He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:16 (one year ago) link

Crystal Skull has a good first 40 minutes or so - it only starts to go downhill after LaBeouf turns up

nashwan, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:23 (one year ago) link

no the only good bit is when the communists encounter the aliens and afterwards, all the indiana stuff is rubbish as always

mark s, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:25 (one year ago) link

hoping something similar happens towards the end of CHERNOBYL (2019)

mark s, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:25 (one year ago) link

raiders
crusade

temple

skulls

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:28 (one year ago) link

formatting ate the six pages of a gap i put in before skulls

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:28 (one year ago) link

formatting recognises they're all bad

mark s, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:35 (one year ago) link

i think this is the longest i've seen an indie thread go without a defense of temple of doom

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:44 (one year ago) link

i was gonna but look who needs the beasting

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:50 (one year ago) link

In a thousand years even Temple of Doom may be worth something

jmm, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:52 (one year ago) link

my favorite of the four

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:09 (one year ago) link

One part that made me laugh on last rewatching Raiders was the map room scene, where this elaborate set of clues has to be followed in order to… point at the central building on the map?

jmm, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:16 (one year ago) link

and the nazis were digging in the wrong place because.. the staff they were using was too short. but why was it too short? i must have missed that during the basket carrying caper.

annoying that marian's genius, signposted escape-via-drinking-game plan just totally.. came to nothing

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:24 (one year ago) link

Belloq's staff was too long!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:25 (one year ago) link

too long? surely that cuts against a few national stereotypes

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:28 (one year ago) link

It's revealed a little later. The two sides of the medallion together give the right staff length, and the Nazis only had one side, the one that was burned into the Gestapo guy's hand.

jmm, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:39 (one year ago) link

aaand take back one kadam, to honor the Hebrew god whose ark this is

that scene with the imam is my favorite indy scene ever

lukas, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:39 (one year ago) link

Sallah bursting into Gilbert and Sullivan.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:43 (one year ago) link

xp lol yeah, the take back one kadam guy is really great. We should do a poll of indiana jones characters with 5 lines or less

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:02 (one year ago) link

100% the monkey

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:58 (one year ago) link

snake

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:10 (one year ago) link

I loved Dietrich.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:13 (one year ago) link

"M'sieu? I am...uncomfortable with this...Jewish ritual."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:13 (one year ago) link

"LOVE YOU" girl

jmm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:29 (one year ago) link

You can hear a few muffled comments from the class as they're filing out.

"He's just off today, must be all that travel."

"Every time I see him he looks more like [something something]"

jmm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:30 (one year ago) link

LOVE YOU girl rules

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:44 (one year ago) link

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 12:12 (one year ago) link

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 12:12 (one year ago) link

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 12:12 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

I rewatched last year for the first time in decades and was v impressed with the presentation of the title, had no memory of that.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

xpost: weird it got compressed, maybe this works:
https://i.redd.it/epub0ba5st8x.png

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:06 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still can’t figure out what this is showing.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

imdb score!

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:15 (two weeks ago) link

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (the “V-Ger” one) apparently scored so low it couldn’t even fit.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:18 (two weeks ago) link


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