― dave q, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Question answer: no, not even tempted. I'd just be embarrassed.
― Tom, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― suzy, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― DG, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mike Hanley, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― DJ Martian, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― nathalie, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Just dropped in to say that this thread is really, really skeezing me out.
― Nitsuh, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― maryann, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― duane, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ally, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Lyra, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Maidelah, Monday, 7 June 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Those Beautiful Lines (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 7 June 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 7 June 2004 04:49 (twenty years ago) link
(Reason I'm on this thread = I dare myself to read all sorts of things these days.)
― Those Beautiful Lines (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 7 June 2004 04:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago) link
gotta be more to that story, like how did you find out? Did she tell you before or after? What was your reaction? Inquiring minds wanna know, etc., etc.
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:36 (twenty years ago) link
Revive! There's got to be at least one ILXer who'll admit to hiring a real prostitute for real sex. None of this, "I gave a prostitute a cupcake" or "I dated an ex-prostitute" stuff.
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Why don't you start a poll?
ILX0r you think is most likely to have been to a prostitute?
;-)
― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Which ILXor is most likely to have offered another money for sex?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
As per usual, Gear always delivers.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
the guy who filmed his friend throwing up crack rocks?
― milo z, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
(3yr xpost)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
When was the turning point where visiting a prostitute became socially unacceptable and embarrassing even 'among the boys'?
― milo z, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Former boss of mine once told me he had slept with several hundred prostitutes while in the Far East. He was proud of this as, in his mind, it didn't count as cheating on his wife while he was away from her.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
The shitty thing about this thread is that it wd be one thing if we were likely to put our money where our collective mouth is and be like "HAY SEX WORKERS DESRVE RESPECT TOO, THAT'S COOL, SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE" and let it go, but the not-at-all disguised prurience I get from thread/revive sez to me that any admission here is going to be a downward spiral w/ sniggering and judgements made. So fuk all that.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
XPOSTwas it ever that acceptable? There is some reference in an ancient Greek text to meeting a friend as you come out of a brothel being one of the most embarrassing things that could ever happen to you, and this in a society where prostitution was a very accepted part of social life.
I have oddly started wondering whether it might just be possible for a prostitute-client relationship not to be hideously exploitative and depressing, in the way that it is possible to have polite relationships with service industry people generally, but I kind of doubt it.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
He was proud of this as, in his mind, it didn't count as cheating on his wife while he was away from her.
proud of paying for it (regardless of the being married thing)? whatta freak
― blueski, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
I've been sniggered at by a prostitute. xxpost
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
"trading places" could never happen ;_;
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
reminds me of a song
SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE PROSTITUTE
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
You mean what century?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
No, I think this happened in the 20th Century.
There used to be (well, still is, in some quarters) the idea that nice girls *don't* have sex at all. Therefore visiting prostitutes was an item for manliness, showing that you were having sex. I think that it's much more acceptible these days, the idea that even nice girls can and do have sex - with the advent of free love, as it were, the idea of having to *pay* for sex became more demeaning than the cache of having sex.
― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Someone who used to be a prostitute in Coventry wrote me a bunch of letters when I was 18 and in university, basically saying she'd fallen in love with me. This would be one thing but we'd been in each other's company once, for about three hours, with several other people, loading stuff out of a removal van. I politely brushed her off and then she got married via a lonely hearts ad I think
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Perhaps even on ILX there is too much public shame in admitting this.
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
I think this depends on what you mean by "among the boys". I think in some circles it still isn't exactly socially unacceptable - cf Wayne Rooney and friends, or some groups of City boys.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes, but hardly recently
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
i was propositioned, not once but twice, standing outside of one of my college dorms (yes, indcidently, on the corner. it was apparently a high-traffic area for that kind of thing.) so while i've never been a whore, i've at least looked like one.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Andi isn't a she, he's a goth-boy.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
i know a girl who appeared on an episode of real sex. she was my roomate for about a year and...definitely had some sex addiction issues, would go to those types of parties and troll craigslist casual encounters, and be fine and not feel any guilt and be confident that she was having fun. i never judged her for this, even though it would make me really squeemish if i thought about it to much.
to my knowledge, she only had sex for money a few times, and after each one got extremely depressed and violent towards friends. even though she chose to do it and had so much sex that she "might as well get paid for it" it still made her feel x330243 worse about herself than a casual encounter/one night stand where no money was exchanged.
i know that doesn't apply to everyone, but i think there are usually awful consequences to your psyche/idea of self when you receive money for sex, and the whole idea of getting off on that is a bit creepy to me. i think maybe there should be shame involved for men who pay for sex, cos there definitely is shame, publicly and privately, for the women.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link
ILX loves you, never fear, whether you dress up in little costumes or not.
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link
(xpost) I think it's the whole "getting used" bit; I know singers who are violently opposed to getting paid to sing because they feel it would ruin their enjoyment of their art.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
Are there two Andis? Because those WDYLL photos were...kind of clearly a girl, I thought?
― Laurel, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Are you thinking andi mags, Laurel?
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
(xpost) Haven't you seen "Silence of the Lambs"?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Not a troll. And I don't know what nude spock means. I don't really think I have anything to "confess".
x-posts
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I think that for the most part, we can agree that adults should be allowed to engage in consensual sex acts for money given certain protections and restrictions.
But agreeing to that isn't the same thing as agreeing that prostitution, the way it's put into practice right now, (certainly in the US) is O.K. I think most of us can agree that current (mostly illegal and "underground" prostitution) is far too exploitative, abusive and/or physically and emotionally harmful to the prostitutes to be "O.K." for people to visit.
In fact, those two positions (in theory, prostitution is O.K.; the way is it currently practiced, it is not) in a lot of ways lead into one another, i.e., prostitution is crepey the way it is now (illegal), so maybe we should legalize it.
― max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
bill "nude spock" means, do you like to have sex with prostitutes while you wear vulcan ears, y/n?
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Hey, I'm not stupid or insane (much), I know that pet names and fantasies are harmless. I know that fulfilling fantasies through role-playing is harmless. But still, when fantasy role-playing gets into simulations of pedophilia and incest I get squicked, and I said so. I'm pretty sure I didn't say anyone should be shamed by their fantasies, or go to jail for them, or even care what I think. So, if this is a big problem for you, please give me your arguments in favor of pedophilia and incest. Or climb a tree. Whatevs.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.the-spine.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/tcspock.jpg
BAN MR. QUE
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link
whuh? why? did i post tubgirl accidentally again?
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link
hahahaha no but that was awesome
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
I think I might be, JMC.
On all other points, you are all fucking nutters (except max and bell b/c I love her). Oily, wtf are you even TALKING ABOUT?? If I cared to deal with your post srsly, I would be giving you my arguments in favor of FULFILLING FANTASIES, as you yourself just allowed for, not arguing for real-life rape/pedo/incest. Everyone is getting all emo'ed up here and being retarded.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
on every ilx thread: someone accused of being nude spock not knowing who nude spock is
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Que, you're getting banned because those are obviously FERENGI ears, not VULCAN.
(ps ban me)
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Also Laurel, you know that max restated exactly what I said to libcrypt, which, when I said it, made you go "UGH YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BORING", right?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
hahaha i had to google FERENGI, a good time though
PROSTITUTES
http://www.threatlab.com/albums/Defcon-X/ferengi_jpg.jpg
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
fantasies are one thing, putting them to the woman you just hired to blow you in those terms is another
― milo z, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh, Dan, you're not crazy. The economics convo at least made sense.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link
prostitution is like the drug war: it should be legal but that doesn't mean it's 'good,' just that it's hugely more damaging and expensive to police than any real utility we get back by doing so, to no real effect.
― gff, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
http://onewholeclove.typepad.com/one_whole_clove/images/palmier
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
i would eat that
― carne asada, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
rub-n-tug's = crazy prevalent in this town, and socially acceptable in a lot of circles.
― gr8080, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
i was apparently living right next to one of those places and didn't even know it until they got raided
― carne asada, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't really buy this. Unlike prostitution, drugs are G*R*A*T*E.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Can you get the clap from doing drugs?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
if you know a way to get a coronary embolism or grievous brain damage from paid sex, i'd like to subscribe to your newsletter
― gff, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
besides, that's not the point. spending tons of public $$$ and ruining lives to clamp down on supply when there's really no way to alter constant insatiable demand, is the problem. with both.
― gff, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
I grew up a block from a place that got raided for rub'n'tugs and was only shut down about a year after I moved away. Dude had a good thing going for 10 years.
― milo z, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link
the space is now a wedding chapel/reception place
same diff
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671021311.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Those women aren't being "exploited", they're raking in the dough, and seem to love what they do.
Uh-huh. Just keep telling yourself that, big boy.
They're also hideous looking. If that's the most attractive woman you can get, I don't blame you for having to buy "it", buddy.
― u s steel, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
'can get' is really not fitting in with that sentiment.
― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I was with a gorgeous black woman prostitute in D.C. once, yes. Big knockers as I recall.
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Did I mention I have a weakness for black women with big knockers?
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
don't think so - thanks
― s1ocki, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I just started to like ILX a little less, so I guess you did
― some dude's gizmo (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
YOU ARE TRENT REZNOR AND I CLAIM MY FIVE POUNDS.
― The ILX Double Standard (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Honestly, you really can't tell anything about a woman's wealth from the sound of her door chime.
― plenty chong (libcrypt), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
lol bimble
― velko, Monday, 23 March 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Like I said upthread, I don't have too many hang-ups about sex. I never bought into a lot of the puritan bullshit they feed you in this country about sex between consenting adults.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 3:37 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Saturday, 10 May 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link
Stand by that 7 years later. 110%
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 10 May 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link
Unrelated, but how did Amsterdam get the hooker capital of the world reputation in the US when prostitution is essentially (or explicitly) legal in much of Europe and other cities have comparable red light districts?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 10 May 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link
Better Chamber of Commerce.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 May 2014 04:59 (ten years ago) link
My best friend and I were only in college a few weeks when we got curious, bored and bored enough to call those numbers on the back page. We thought it could be cool having that gorgeous hunk of man pictured in the ad come to our dorm as we had no male visitors and every one else was hooking up with orgies (it seemed). So we called this male escort and his voice didn't quite match up with the photo but we kept talking, asking stupid questions like,"If you come to our dorm, what will you do?" UGH, 18! Finally asked him how much just to come and walk down the hall to our room (with the plan we'd leave the door open so everyone could see what a "great" time we were having with this stud. $100 and that was our art supply allowance. Turned into phone sex, giggling, a frustrated escort who became irate and finally told us to fuck off. Later, we were a bit depressed, so we made a bunch of prank calls to bars around town and that saved the night? Yes. Geeeeeez
― *tera, Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link
This thread is interesting to read, but to get a wide array of straight answers it is better approached as poll material. btw, I have never been a prostitute or been with a prostitute, mainly because I find either possibility impossible to imagine myself doing, which tends to strangle the possibility before it ever could take on a tinge of reality.
― epoxy fule (Aimless), Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:16 (ten years ago) link