This probably isn't the thread for it, and lol at me for asking this about a movie I have no intention of seeing, but what else is there to Deadgirl besides rape and sexual slavery mixed in with zombies?
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
Its a pretty interesting meditation on teen socialization and sexuality actually.
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
And beyond that also how we form morality in a situation outside definition and standardized exemplars of behavior. Also how we define what it is to be human and what the line between person and object truly is.
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh, can we not use the word "meditation?"
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's kinda like war film : killing :: Deadgirl : sex. I got it, I just didn't particularly want it.
― Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
This is grossly unfair but if I want to watch a meditation on what it means to be human, I would watch about a bazillion slavery movies before watching Deadgirl, since slavery is a direct antecedent of my family history.
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
for me it's trollhunter
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah sorry I used meditation, I regretted it right afterwards but some guy was yapping at me while I typed so
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
tell GZeus we said hi
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
ahahaha
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
I'm Norwegian, and zombies are a direct antecedent of my family history.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
I was thinking when I wrote up my ballot about whether I wanted to include Irreversible or not. I decided against it tho bc horrific movies are not the same as horror movies, and some horrific movies (movies about eg slavery, the holocaust, rape, etc) are worse and more difficult for me to watch than any horror movie. (Quoted DJP for tangental reasons - your comment about slavery just reminded me of this question I had.)
Also, I kinda feel bad bc there are some horror movies that I will probably never watch (Human Centipede, Audition, Martyrs, Deadgirl, etc) not bc I think they're bad movies but bc I'm kinda legit too frightened to subject myself to them? Not that this is similar, but tho I watched 2 Girls 1 Cup when it was the rage, I refused to watch those videos of those Ukrainian teenagers killing that guy. Obv these films are fictional and these other things are "non-fictional" but some images I don't want circulating in my brain. Anyway, I feel bad bc in some ways I suspect those are the best horror movies - the ones that are too scary for me to even watch. But I couldn't vote for any of them.
― Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
2 Girls 1 Cup
comedy poll iirc
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not really a horror person - but am tempted to submit a ballot just so i can vote for Cemetery Man.considered putting it on my comedy ballot!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
FWIW, Mordy, Deadgirl isn't at all visually extreme (I have similarly-squeamish reservations about the other films you mention, aside from Human Centipede, which I've also heard leaves a lot to the imagination but which I simply have no desire to see anyway). It's the characters' motivations and decisions and actions that encourage fifteen post-viewing showers.
― Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, someday my curiosity is going to overpower my sense and I'm going to watch Audition, and then I will hate myself so very much because I know I shouldn't watch that movie because I'm a gigantic wuss but I also know that one day I will watch it and that will be a sad day full of cringing
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Honestly think by this point Audition can't really do as much damage as it would've in stealth mode, before everyone knew it to be one of the new kings of extremity.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
(Yes, that is me double daring you.)
I think you are underestimating how much of a wuss I can be
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
This is what wikipedia plot summaries are for iirc.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
but am tempted to submit a ballot just so i can vote for Cemetery Man.
cosign this before it disappears. everyone pls to watch and vote for cemetery man.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
idk if this is the best place for this, but i wanted to let ppl know that They Live is playing on TCM 5/5 and Evil Dead II is playing on IFC 5/1
― Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
This thread has reignited my examination of why I'm perfectly able to handle pretty much any '70s/'80s/'90s gore but am totally squicked by the very idea of the gore in a lot of more recent movies, particularly wrt "torture porn". Like, reading about the eyeball stuff alone was enough to make me avoid Hostel. I think it might be something to do with the increasing tendency towards leaving less to the imagination (and also towards longer, lingering, loving shots of awful tableaux) plus a jaded, novelty-driven pushing beyond the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with. I used to love watching stuff with Tom Savini explaining his tricks and techniques and showing off all kinds of grotesqueries, but I'd feel a little uneasy seeing the (probably mostly digital) workshops of some of these dudes working today. I dunno. Maybe I'm just getting old.
― Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
I know for me, the problem is that if I watch something, my subconscious does its damnedest to convince my body that what I'm seeing is real, almost to the point of triggering anxiety attacks later on when I try to sleep. If the context in which this is presented is fantasy or science fiction, I have enough obvious unreality for me to properly distance myself and control the physiological reaction, but 9 times out of 10 a straight-up slasher flick with tons of gore is going to be nightmare city.
Resident Evil didn't give me any nightmares at all, and neither did Silent Hill, but the remake of Night of the Living Dead ruined my sleep for a week and Nightmare On Elm Street 2 did likewise. My ability to tolerate a film is almost 100% predicated on whether I can rationalize it into something other than "a horror film".
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw, hostel & hostel II aren't anywhere near as revolting as they're often made to sound. they have their moments, but are pretty enjoyable, overall. i like audition, too, though the R-rated version is rough enough for me.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
HEY DAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xH2PV_S4QI
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
i am not clicking play.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
1:35 should get you to the good stuff
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
du bist ein Arsch, Herr "Austerity Ponies"
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
No joke, speaking as one wuss to another, Audition is way, way harder to watch than Human Centipede.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
DJP, when you spoke of the physical, visceral reaction, it made me think of that scene, which as of today I have only seen 3 times, because HOLY FUCK JESUS
the interesting part is that it is my right eye that hurts, as if I had been looking into a mirror instead of a screen.
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
ichi the killer is way more gruesome than audition ... and it's also better than audition.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
not nominated, bc rightfully it's not very good, but i get a lot of pleasure from poppy slasher horror movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer
― Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
also, it's been hard for me to take human centipede seriously since it was spoofed on South Park.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
"Which would you rather I eat? Should I eat the cuttlefish and asparagus, or the vanilla paste?"
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
no wai is ichi better than odishon! great onscreen delivery of the title, great gore here and there, amazing conclusion, but i thought it was a pretty dull movie outside the flagrantly weird stuff. auditon's completely the opposite. everyone talks about the crazy stuff at the end, but i was fascinated by the characters and their relationship.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
my eye still hurts
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
ok, i'm bored. horror-stans, talk about something provocative plz!
is anyone voting for faces of death? or similar 'horror' films?
― Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
Hey guess what? Everybody is OTM about Cabin in the Woods.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
And no I am not voting for Faces of Death. I couldn't get past the first vignette (IIRC somebody getting tortured and punched in the face).
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
Well, they were dead when they were punched in the face, so ...
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
everyone pls to watch and vote for cemetery man.
Oh man, Cemetery Man is just swell.
― "Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
I'm going to fill my last spot with the Twin Peaks pilot. (I don't mean to sidetrack this into Twin Peaks discussion #591.) I got it out and watched it again tonight. I'm not a big fan of Fire Walk with Me--there are parts of it I like--and even though I'd be okay with voting for the entire series, that really wouldn't be fair (plus you'd be voting for a fair amount of really silly stuff). The pilot is a way for me to acknowledge that part of the series (four, five, six hours, scattered about) that gripped and terrified me as much as almost anything I've ever seen. The blueprint for that film is in the pilot. Bob doesn't appear, but he's looming--in the one shot of the school's empty halls, in the awful traces left behind in the boxcar, in Grace Zabriskie's scream at the end. If you know what's coming, it's a horror film.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
i want to stan for and hope everyone will vote for DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS, harry kumel's decadent eurosleaze masterpiece from 1971. it is sort of my ideal horror movie, and another of my all time favorite movies of any sort. it's technically a "lesbian vampire movie", but much less campy and trashy than that might suggest, it's pitched somewhere between antonioni ripoff and tribute to the gothic glamour of 40s horror. drowsy, sexy, death-haunted and just totally badass from front to back. plus an all-time classic performance from delphyine seyrig as the countess elizabeth bathory.
http://10kbullets.com/images/2006/10/daughtersbride-02.jpg
http://10kbullets.com/images/2006/10/daughtersbride-04.jpg
http://blog.deedeesvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/countess2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ICedDZ151CI/Tin6kD1lvvI/AAAAAAAACcI/Dd5ekEm0oo8/s1600/darkness.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eJGQD8b1nHQ/Tin7LC6ZmHI/AAAAAAAACcQ/hwwV17F01mM/s1600/13625546_gal.jpg
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:42 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of "it is" and "it's" sentences in there :(
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm going to fill my last spot with the Twin Peaks pilot.
Yeah, even though it's stretching the purpose of this poll somewhat, I considered stumping for some specific television episodes (e.g. Twin Peaks - "Lonely Souls", The X-Files - "Home", The Outer Limits - "Don't Open Until Doomsday" (total proto-Lynch, that one)) that are as solid as any number of horror films in the nominations thread. Because otherwise you'd have to do a "best horror episodes of all time" poll, which would just be a mess.
― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
I can't believe that jeepers creepers didn't get nommed, might vote for it anyway, and so should everyone else obv.
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:26 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not qualified to vote in this but i think i may have been the only person to vote for cemetery man in the comedy poll and i just wanted to pop in and second/third/fourth the entreaties to vote for it here since i never bothered to stump for it earlier and have learned that the only thing necessary for cemetery man to fail is that good men do nothing.
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
"you have a lovely ossuary."
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:38 (eleven years ago) link
I really hope Michele Soavi's career takes off again because i'm pretty sure he'd be making better films than Argento at this point.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:50 (eleven years ago) link