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has anyone seen this?

i keep occassionally catching the odd episode at random times on sci fi but am buggered if i can work out what it's about. it seems quite interesting, just slightly impenetrable. at least to someone who started watching it halfway through the series. can anyone provide a plot synopsis and say whether its worth sticking with or not?

i also thought it was a kids anime, given that it was on at lunchtimes. however, given the occassional bit of nudity and lesbian sex it's probably only appropriate for kids that have googled for Sailor Moon and ended up on a Pokemon Porn hentai site.

Wyndham Earl, Thursday, 12 September 2002 23:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Its the only anime i have evah stand to watch and it simply fantastic u highly recomend watching it, though not from the halfway, the story is pretty much made on details and i think seeing it from halfway should really put a lot down

vic (vicc13), Friday, 13 September 2002 00:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Is this the one with the Penguin? I think they battle these demons called "Angels" that are just generally bad ass, they destroyed half teh population of Earth or something like that. The kids of NERV are the only ones who can fit in the battle suits, is teh somewhat shaky premise. Yeah, I kinda like this one.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 13 September 2002 08:09 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Its good because of the Title.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Friday, 13 September 2002 11:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Very impenetrable, even for those who have seen the whole series. But interesting nonetheless.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 13 September 2002 12:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's deconstruction of the giant-robot genre is very well done because it dared to also include it's materialist support, the otaku community.

Here instead of using the feedback of their consumers and giving them the escapism fantasy they came to expect, the narration works on the fears of an antisocial guy and confront him to the other.

The "reality check" was recieved as a bravade by both fans and the industry! (But somehow I think it doesn't matter since the importance of Eva is now undisputed.)

The author being a Ûber-Otaku himself made his point eaven more twisted, isn'it?

They made a considerable research for this project; loads of references to theology, wwII, post wwII pop culture and it's avant-garde, history of anime etc so it makes it extra-fun for fans to talk about it and share interpretations. The 2 last episodes are fantastic, like a metaphysic of the anime. ANNO HIDEAKI rules! anyone've seen his latest stuff?

the Hegemon, Saturday, 14 September 2002 05:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

classic for the fact that the fans were so outraged by the last two episodes that they demanded a film version delivering a more "traditional" happy ending, if nothing else.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 14 September 2002 05:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ah yes, the appendice movies...
at least they showed the Hero is a Wanker who shot his load looking at the breast of a comatose girl!

The Hegemon, Saturday, 14 September 2002 06:01 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Shinji? I must see this movies

vic (vicc13), Saturday, 14 September 2002 16:51 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
So anyway, I watched this whole deal, including the End of Evangelion movie. The series started out ok, but I kept thinking that I was too old to be watching this, and that all of the characters seemed dreampt up by some 14 year old kid (let alone the main characters actually being 14). But as it went on, and especially in the last movie, it got into some pretty out there things, kind of along the same lines as Kubrick's 2001. When it was over, I just stared at the tv for a while, and now I'm debating whether or not to go through the movie again. Except, since the message of it seemed to be that you shouldn't escape into fantasy to get away from real life, I don't think it's the right thing to do. WTF????

Also, the animation in that movie was probably the best stuff I've seen outside of, say, Fantasia.

dleone (dleone), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The last two episodes of the TV show ended up being the way they were because the studio had blown all of its money by that point. Reused animations cleverly disguised as "art," but very well done nonetheless.

The End of Envanglion was created later after the series became a huge success and they had funds to do a proper ending with mecha battles and so forth.

The creator of the series was battling depression at the time, which explains alot. He also admitted that the Christian/Kabalah references were just window dressing and didn't have any real bearing on the plot, which pissed me off (I guess its too much too expect the Japanese to have weird insights into Western Theology). Like a lot of anime, its not as deep as it first appears, just incomprehensible and filled with non-sequitors.

I think FLCL toppped NGE's animation.

..., Monday, 26 January 2004 14:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, all the religious stuff, I wasn't too sure about. And depression, I guess isn't hard to believe, especially being that the whole thing seemed to say, "life is hard, deal with it".

dleone (dleone), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I tried reading the manga, and the prose in the first volume was just so awful I stopped right there.

Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

just don't see it dubbed!!!!

i enjoyed it when i was about 12-14. i'd probably like to see it again sometime, but i'm in no rush. (this includes the end of evangelion movie et al. which i might be more into if this girl lauren didn't steal it from me. bitch.)

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i have been watching this stoned as part of my post-breakup/summer regimen of weed & movies that alienate my roommates and its fucking terrific. why does the music suck so much, though? i was hoping for some crazy akira-style chanting/drums. still. giant robots + pseduo-gnostic theology = bonerville

max, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

+ babes, too

max, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ha, I've been watching this too.

marmotwolof, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I loved this series the first time through but when I tried to rewatch it, I couldn't tolerate Shinji's whining. I only got through a few episodes before I was muttering, "Shutupshutupshutupshutupshutup," uncontrollably.

Maybe it had something to do with having seen the ending. The end of the movie is a total cop-out, right? I don't want to give anything away (and I don't recall many details anyway) but I remember feeling ripped off.

lindseykai, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the english dubbing is terrible as usual

max, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think I watched the dubbed version. Stupid, whiny Shinji voice...

lindseykai, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I couldn't finish watching this on TV because of him, had to buy the DVDs and see it subbed.

This is the man responsible:
http://ia.ec.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/89/58/29m.jpg

Also, I think Asuka is awesomely bitchy in Japanese, but just annoyingly bitchy in English.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hmm, did the pic not post?
this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0818111/

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Huh, Asuka's voice was the only one I liked better in English than Japanese.

Something about it, just more affecting...

Bill Bary, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've heard people say that. Couldn't take it.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Asuka's accent in the dubbed version is so weird.

31g, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 03:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

for me, it doesn't work without the english dubbing. only because i saw it all first as the dubbed version.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 05:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the penguin annoys me too

max, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 05:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I haven't seen this but I have been led to suspect it might be the second-best thing ever, by this... intriguing version of Gangster's Paradise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP9DKGhUiaY

(which is obviously the first-best thing ever)

ledge, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

why does the music suck so much, though?

haha that fly me to the moon cover omg

@ one point in my lyfe i really thought this was the most wonderful thing imaginable. rewatching now ive got a new appreciation for mitsuru erm mitsato

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 04:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

lmao ya me 2 (that point in my lyfe being when i was 14 - perfect age for it really, since at no other point in ure life will that particular brand of narcissistic doom-angst resonate so distinctly)

imo it's best interpreted as an extremely hateful sequel to otaku no video - the whole thing boils over with anno's rage & disgust w/himself and w/his audience, which in turn casts a darkly funny light on the show's legacy, tho otoh i have recently come to understand that GAINAX is doing a series of evangelion movies w/the promise that it will retell the story in a more conventional and straightforward fashion, to make it accessible for a broader audience - i guess that says something about where anno's at in his life now (i know he got married a few years ago), or maybe it just means he has nothing better to do than remake gunbuster for the 93rd time

the scene from end of evangelion where asuka is eaten alive still gives me, like, emotions btw ;_;

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 05:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

just watched the first two episodes and there are some moments of true beauty - the cut from shinji seemingly losing his battle with the angel to a blindingly white hospital bed and the "unfamiliar ceilings" title card is wonderful~~~ and the show has some of the best sound fx in any anime from the bestial groans of the eva in battle to all that perfectly calibrated silence

yah i watched it 1st when i was 13 and i really got sucked in to the alternating ~coolness~ (lol the shadowy cabal meets in a nite black room with glowing neon thrones) and ~heaviness~ of the angst and the alienation amidst this wonderful futurescape. but i think its still "good" or w/e maybe more nuanced than im giving credit for

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 05:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

the whole thing boils over with anno's rage & disgust w/himself and w/his audience, which in turn casts a darkly funny light on the show's legacy

even two episodes in every characters desperation to connect w/another human being is pretty fukken tragic but the amount of self-loathing that shinji feels is pretty lol considering hes the obv audience surrogate

also cankles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebuild_of_Evangelion

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 05:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

the show has some of the best sound fx in any anime from the bestial groans of the eva in battle to all that perfectly calibrated silence

otm i always loved the way they would isolate the cicadas in quiet outdoor scenes

idk if it's good or nuanced but as someone who basically hates anime i appreciate eva for being so mean and hateful. it was the most influential anime of the decade, but everything it influenced took the 'wrong' cues from it - all the crap with the conspiracies and retarded plucked-from-a-hat religious shit was just window dressing for the 26-episode therapy session of one rageful manchild. that's probably why i liked the movie better than the series, which had a lot of bland monster-of-the-week filler episodes (tho i liked the show's ending fine), stuff like the scene where shinji jerks off over asuka's coma-titties has no room for extra interpretation.

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 06:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha from here it seems like the most influential anime of the 90s was dragon ball but i def agree with everything else ur saying. eva was unique in how bleak and vicious it could be - watching the sub versions the dude who voices shinji's dad is so menacing and hateful its pretty great.

i guess id just add that eva still feels a lot more "artful" than most anime. its beautifully drawn and we talked about the sound but the editing is fukken aces and it less idk static or flat than a lot of cartoons imo. also i do think theres some nuance - its mostly pretty emo and yah "rageful" is really good word for it - but small moments like shinji sobbing in the cockpit of his eva after the 2nd battle in front of the dude that just knocked him out - there are some slivers of a more grown up empathy and distance in there

retarded plucked-from-a-hat religious shit

lol deathnote

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 08:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol all anime

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 08:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha, this show will always have a special place in my heart, seriously

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 13:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

dragonball couldve been the most influential in america but as far as influencing other anime eva takes the cake. idk a lot of that was pretty by-the-book giant robot melodrama stuff - crying in a robot (the new 'crying in the club') is definitely well-worn territory imo. the 'moments of true beauty' u mentioned earlier were only there for budgetary reasons, ie. it's a tv production so there's lots of panning across still frames and backgrounds, which is why gendo spends half the series with his mouth covered. maybe the fact that eva gave license to every anime that followed it to also be 'artful' and pretentious makes me distrusting of those qualities in eva itself.

also ya lmbo anime imo

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

'starscream ascendant', chapter 9 - transformers fanfic community — this is the only google result for 'crying in a robot'

thomp, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha yah it wasnt that shinji crying in da robot was new ground but that the way it was shot and cut and the perspective of the two classmates (lol even drawn the O_O looks on their faces is a+) made it seem more, i guess, than the typical emo pity party thing. idk i thought it was pretty effective @ showing how alienated and ashamed the dude was - even if being alienated and ashamed is kinda de rigeur~~~

sometimes the "artful" stuff is pretentious lol the shot of a lone tennis ball in the rain but i think it works, generally. meh ive been liking it so far what can i say?

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

it works.

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

i will say, the way the kaji-misato relationship was handled always struck me as really 'adult' i guess

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

we are all so lonely €~€~€~€

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Friday, 21 August 2009 06:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

the scene from end of evangelion where asuka is eaten alive still gives me, like, emotions btw ;_;

haha just watched the movie and this, basic. the whole thing is pretty fucked up and meandering and tenuous but that scene and ikari just choking the fuck out of asuka @ one point ~feelings bro~

flcl on tapppp i think

diggvm rm xlwv (Lamp), Friday, 28 August 2009 08:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

flcl was awesome

i don't know what you mean by "on tappppp" though

thomp, Friday, 28 August 2009 09:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

no 1 understands me. [do they?] no 1 cares about me. [do they?] i'm useless. [are u?]

diggvm rm xlwv (Lamp), Friday, 28 August 2009 09:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

no; possibly; maybe

thomp, Friday, 28 August 2009 09:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

when u read that u shouldve pictured a bunch of squiggly kanji and stills from some of my past ilx posts btw

diggvm rm xlwv (Lamp), Friday, 28 August 2009 09:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

that's pretty much the spirit in which i always read ur posts

thomp, Friday, 28 August 2009 09:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwj9SeKlvx0

candice spergin (cankles), Friday, 18 September 2009 07:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I told Brad that I think shinji canceled instrumentality bcz it felt good and that was unfamiliar to him and he just wants to only feel pain

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 21 July 2018 02:19 (four months ago) Permalink

and he’s a fuckin little pipsqueak

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 21 July 2018 02:19 (four months ago) Permalink

well i finally got around to seeing shin godzilla, which is incredible and completely essential viewing for anyone who likes eva imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 July 2018 05:11 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't know if i'd go that far. it's a fun watch, but largely a satire of japanese government / the original Godzilla film

Nhex, Sunday, 22 July 2018 05:24 (four months ago) Permalink

idk it totally has the feeling of an early evangelion episode

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:02 (four months ago) Permalink

and the shot of godzilla's tail at the end is the francis bacon hellscapes of end of evangelion briefly swarming into the movie

and it may be a satire but it's also an extremely earnest one, the way it manages that tone is remarkable

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:05 (four months ago) Permalink

also "angel attack" plays throughout for some reason

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:06 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Party Rock Anthem has the same BPM as the Evangelion Opening and I hate it pic.twitter.com/UC2WzNF3zN

— Joseju (@Josejusejo) September 18, 2018

, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 02:44 (two months ago) Permalink

omg

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:35 (two months ago) Permalink

internet brilliance.

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 04:07 (two months ago) Permalink

whoa that rules

flappy bird, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:06 (two months ago) Permalink

pic.twitter.com/4KGLwUhcQP

— ツンデレイチェル (@metalqueersoIid) September 24, 2018

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 24 September 2018 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:24 (two months ago) Permalink

Why does this silica gel packet look like an Evangelion title card? pic.twitter.com/INNToBAhzi

— problem child (@tsundere_asuka) September 22, 2018

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:24 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

spring 2019 worldwide, includes both movies!

All’s right with the world: Neon Genesis Evangelion is coming to @Netflix. pic.twitter.com/2pQ1lG1h9e

— NX (@NXOnNetflix) November 27, 2018

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^will make me very unpopular at home

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Good. Good. Now give us the dang blu-rays!

Nhex, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wow. Great news.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 04:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I just finished the 2nd Rebuild movie this morning and WHOA

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

The Rebuilds are fun so far but 2 movies in it's like all action and no psychological turmoil

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

don’t speak too soon

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:10 (one week ago) Permalink

lol!

when the FUCK is the next movie coming

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:24 (one week ago) Permalink

projected date on the wikipedia page is 2020, which i sorta believe

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:45 (one week ago) Permalink

<potentially too dark joke> which means the u.s. release will probably coincide with the actual end of the world </potentially too dark joke>

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:47 (one week ago) Permalink

is Netflix doing dubs/subs or both? and better transfers of the movies?

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:56 (one week ago) Permalink

there's possibly a new english dub: https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/11/30/neon-genesis-evangelion-netflix-dub-rei-voice-actor-comments/

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:08 (one week ago) Permalink

hell yeah bring it on

someone should let me oversee the translation though j/k

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:18 (one week ago) Permalink

feel bad for amanda winn lee though

as much as the dvd transfers for death/rebirth and eoe were dogshit and as much as the dub included some dodgy sound effects choices on her part, the people who translated the films did it perfectly

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:21 (one week ago) Permalink

I really like the original dub cast, this is a bummer.

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:27 (one week ago) Permalink

huh maybe next year i'll start that evangelion podcast i've been wanting to do for years

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:54 (one week ago) Permalink

you cannot settle for anything less than the original whiny Shinji voice actor

Nhex, Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:13 (one week ago) Permalink

i was just reading about zettai ryōiki on wikipedia yesterday

fucking weird shit

dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Do it Brad!!

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 04:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I don’t know anything about this but saw the manga for sale today and the title looked familiar from SNA. Is it worth getting or is this more a film kinda thing?

calstars, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:45 (one week ago) Permalink

brad if you ever decide to do an Eva pod I would be happy to supply technical assistance!!

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:48 (one week ago) Permalink

brad if you ever decide to do an Eva pod I would be happy to supply myself as a guest

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:54 (one week ago) Permalink

xxp iirc the manga differs from the series not insignificantly & ik some people who hate it-- recently saw it described roughly as "eva if the nerds w a shallow, unfeeling understanding of it & its characters were correct"-- but i can't offer up an opinion myself. prob safe not to get it

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:14 (one week ago) Permalink

for context altho the first vols of the manga came out before the series, the latter & eva as a concept was conceived originally by hideaki anno, & the manga, written by someone else, is basically an alternate version

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Don't read the manga before you've seen the show

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Just in case they fuck up the dub you should try and find the series now and watch it. unless you're going subs anyway. I just have a sentimental attachment to the original English cast, and tbh they all held up nicely when I rewatched the series earlier this year.

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Cool thanks

calstars, Monday, 3 December 2018 00:09 (one week ago) Permalink

only go for subs, the early episodes of the old dub are extremely rocky

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:53 (one week ago) Permalink

the manga is written by the series' character designer after the show was finished; it's as much of an embellishment on the original story as the rebuild movies. mostly for ppl who are already fans

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:55 (one week ago) Permalink

was written*

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:55 (one week ago) Permalink

ah sorry. just noticed the wiki page lacks citations regarding that so

lowercase (eric), Monday, 3 December 2018 01:14 (one week ago) Permalink

my stock "what to do before it's on netflix" suggestion is "watch kare kano"

lowercase (eric), Monday, 3 December 2018 01:18 (one week ago) Permalink

lol i was just thinking about kare kano today. i still have all the dvds. it's... idk if it's a great show or anything but it was very important to me in high school

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 04:38 (one week ago) Permalink

i nearly owned every volume of the manga and read it to the end. it's fine, wasn't exactly worth it lol

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 04:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Nice history thread by the co-screenwriter of MANDY

Isn’t this part of the Insrumentality Project https://t.co/H63duyiEp0

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) November 27, 2018

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:30 (one week ago) Permalink

that rules, thank you

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink


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