The Newsroom: Sorkin's HBO Joint

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ovJYAU3U

)Dre( vs. (Eazy), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:24 (nine years ago) link

This is terrible

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:24 (nine years ago) link

These two posts = ILX

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:26 (nine years ago) link

Speech much like Bulworth +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQKfq6ZsgMk

)Dre( vs. (Eazy), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:29 (nine years ago) link

i'd watch sam waterston kick an orange

sonderangerbot, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:32 (nine years ago) link

WHILE SHOUTING

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:33 (nine years ago) link

"How do you fix breaking news?" oof

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:50 (nine years ago) link

wow, the 1992 fall season is looking strong.

scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:50 (nine years ago) link

Does Sorkin have a second type of story he can tell.

polyphonic, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:53 (nine years ago) link

walking, talking

or

talking, walking

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:53 (nine years ago) link

Men makin' tough decisions in the spotlight.

polyphonic, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:56 (nine years ago) link

is there a giant clock on the wall anywhere

j., Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:04 (nine years ago) link

i'd like to hit sorkin over the head with a giant clock.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:06 (nine years ago) link

you know i wasn't sure about this but now that i see olivia munn is in it and jeff daniels' appears to maybe be playing that ol sorkin fave the reasonable republican that hates actual republicans but maybe he's prolife or wants lower taxes or something, well, now i'm all in.

balls, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:08 (nine years ago) link

this looks unbelievably stupid but i will probably watch all of it

max, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:09 (nine years ago) link

i couldnt do studio 60 but there was something so war-criminally horrible about the skits in the show, this just looks like standard sorkin missing the point in politics

max, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:09 (nine years ago) link

Pilot directed by Daytrippers/Superbad Greg Mottola.

)Dre( vs. (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:11 (nine years ago) link

i was down w/ studio 60 right up to the gilbert and sullivan metaskit. never looked back.

balls, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:21 (nine years ago) link

depending on when this is on i'll probably watch every bit of it also. also maybe it's just jeff daniels plus newsroom but is anyone getting more of a clooney stupid earnest vibe from this instead of sorkin stupid earnest vibe?

balls, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:24 (nine years ago) link

haha the gilbert and sullivan thing was exactly where i bailed too

max, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:25 (nine years ago) link

annoyingly, best episode of Studio 60 was the second-to-last one. Fuckin' waste of time to spend all his time writing all those bullshit sketches and saves the real character story work for when he's burned all his bridges.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:32 (nine years ago) link

ugh can we have the Finkleman show back instead pls

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:43 (nine years ago) link

annoyingly, best episode of Studio 60 was the second-to-last one. Fuckin' waste of time to spend all his time writing all those bullshit sketches and saves the real character story work for when he's burned all his bridges.

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 02:32 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this terrible show having the all-round for-every-body ultimate-happy-ending ate into whatever goodwill it had generated. real bad.

this also looks bad in a kinda prefab way, but I will watch & maybe enjoy it. the kind of tall-professional-woman berates sitting-mastermind-man thing is studio sixty all over again

john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 10:28 (nine years ago) link

I will totally watch this, and probably totally resent it. It seems to basically just be Studio 60 minus all the West Wing guys, right? At least he won't have to write SNL-type skits into this one.

ailsa, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 10:47 (nine years ago) link

instead he'll get to write as many political talking heads as he wishes

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:37 (nine years ago) link

Was that Dev Patel floating around in the background of the trailer?

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:10 (nine years ago) link

jane fonda sighting too!!

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:18 (nine years ago) link

emily mortimer too i think

pandemic, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:22 (nine years ago) link

Sports Night is a classic to me but i kinda feel like he's gotten too much freedom to indulge himself on TV at this point and is better off in the movie world where people can use the strengths of his screenplays and abandon the rest as they like

some dude, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:25 (nine years ago) link

ugh no way

goole, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:25 (nine years ago) link

er not to some dude, to the trailer

goole, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:25 (nine years ago) link

haha

some dude, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:27 (nine years ago) link

Dev Patel and Emily Mortimer are in, yes.

ailsa, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:35 (nine years ago) link

"progress is slow but I'm in it for the long-haul" plus hand-wave and head-turn is the most Sorkinesque moment possible. It's like the Sorkin Singularity

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 21:36 (nine years ago) link

lool @ this whole thread

stet, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:01 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

haha great thread

caek, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:59 (eight years ago) link

I'm both eager and trepidatious

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:17 (eight years ago) link

did you see the graduation address he gave? he called all the students dumb. the parents loved it. the parents love that guy.

scott seward, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:22 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpKC50uFVQ0

This one, going for The Social Network II angle (or the Girls demo):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFZbrwmndA

caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

This show would seem so much more relevant if I or anyone I knew actually watched TV news, ever.

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Also much like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5E9RV9TyEo

caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:35 (eight years ago) link

"By 1980, every show on television was about a divorced Jew who lives in New York City and goes on a blind date with Tom Selleck."

one month passes...

This show is really getting savaged, huh?

I thought this was a good piece about Sorkin's oeuvre:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_completist/2012/06/the_complete_works_of_aaron_sorkin_from_the_west_wing_to_the_social_network_to_the_newsroom_.single.html

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:26 (eight years ago) link

yeah, good article (although i disagree about the value of some shows/movies vs. others)

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:46 (eight years ago) link

I think THR liked it, but I just read the first little blurb. I don't think Seitz has reviewed it yet, but he was tweeting that it was corny a few weeks ago but he seemed to be enjoying it.

Pretty sure it's gonna be shit though.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Mostly thinking of Emily Nussbaum's New Yorker review, though I've seen a few other pans as well.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

its metacritic rating is mad yellow

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:47 (eight years ago) link

such a huge disconnect for me between how much i expect from sorkin (esp w/ evidence like few good men, social network, west wing, sports night) and what he's been delivering on tv these days (studio 60 + now this). i don't think he's being lazy -- maybe he needs a few good editors?

Mordy, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:53 (eight years ago) link

also nobody buys a terminal machine anymore you just use a normal machine and install the software and maybe buy the special keyboard

a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:23 (six years ago) link

i want the newsroom to give a hot take on gamergate

a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:23 (six years ago) link

have never seen this. whenever i hear Sorkin's dialogue i think blanket hatred of my generation is thoroughly justified.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:25 (six years ago) link

http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/jeff-daniels-newsroom-dumb-and-dumber.html

j., Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:50 (six years ago) link

I think Morbs is probably right. Why do I like this show? I hate almost every character and it is really just so bad in places.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:32 (six years ago) link

terrible show, a+

schlump, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:42 (six years ago) link

Yep, they are really hitting all of my love/hate buttons. Kat Dennings walks onscreen in yesterday's episode and I was like OK this is being written specifically to fuck with me. That was some all-star 'OMG seriously this show is the worst/I can't wait for next week's episode!!' casting.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 01:53 (six years ago) link

so i finally watched all of this, all fast at once the other day

kind of not feeling it enough to say anything about it, not sure it merited it - it was enjoyable enough but minor, nothing new to add even to the sorkin canon. a recovery from the worst problems of studio 60, but not really much insight into the news specifically or any of its character(-types). schlump otm re alison pill tho <3.

been thinking though that a better approach to understanding ~~~the essence of sorkinism~~~ is probably in terms of time. specifically, the question of what he can/can't do with his usual combination of structures. and why combine *those*. the just-in-time success plot, the therapeutic admission plot, the unapologetic deposition plot, the 'bad timing' and past-he-can't-get-past romantic plots.

j., Tuesday, 18 November 2014 05:48 (six years ago) link

"everybody at my work does"

a total laugh package (s.clover), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 05:51 (six years ago) link

some very nice rat-a-tat dialogue in this ep.

are sorkin, mamet, and rhimes the only distinct television writerly voices?

maybe in comedy Caspe of happy endings/marry me, and even i guess Chuck Lorre?

a total laugh package (s.clover), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 05:54 (six years ago) link

milch, whedon, i dunno i would not be surprised if david e kelley shows had a 'voice'. i haven't watched enough of them but i kind of recall one. bochco?

i don't know how localized the responsibility for it is but whenever abrams-related shows from alias onward put interpersonal-relationship-dialogue in their characters' mouths, i feel like there's a characteristic blankness to it.

j., Tuesday, 18 November 2014 06:12 (six years ago) link

dunno if i can recognize milch, whedon, kelley voice scene to scene in the writing itself. in the storyline, sure.

sorkin, mamet and rhimes all have a moment-to-moment rhythm, a distinct feel for beats, crescendos, pauses.

a total laugh package (s.clover), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 06:37 (six years ago) link

I've caught a few eps of this without knowing what it was- every one of them seems to end with Jeff Daniels blowing up at somebody/everybody and quitting, while Sam Waterston gently smiling and looking like he's about to pass out. The dialogue is so full of shit I keep thinking it's supposed to be a comedy but apparently not.

i love the sync in the opening credits between this big ostentatious orchestral drum roll & a sharp cut into explosion footage

schlump, Monday, 1 December 2014 03:45 (six years ago) link

hahahaha now that was the revolting Newsroom I remember

Simon H., Monday, 1 December 2014 05:06 (six years ago) link

i think a cool newsroom finale would be jeff daniels blowing himself up to prove a point of some kind

schlump, Monday, 1 December 2014 05:38 (six years ago) link

the resultant viscera spells out "ethics" across the side of the ACN building, magisterial but restrained horn fanfare, fade to black

Simon H., Monday, 1 December 2014 05:47 (six years ago) link

ahhahaha sorkin hates the internet so much

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:42 (six years ago) link

also omg the dialogue is so bad this episode

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:45 (six years ago) link

there was a pretty reasonable new york magazine piece recently about how the newsroom was an unpromising concept because it tried to attach a sort of noble credibility to contemporary news television, it comes through when you hear jim talking really confusingly idealistically about the honour of cable tv

schlump, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:01 (six years ago) link

Ave Maria over the wedding/arrest. I bet when they were filming those scenes they thought it was going to be really cool, and then they saw the episode and were like WTF Aaron, come on. This is not a lord of the rings battle.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:10 (six years ago) link

lol gawker stalker

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 8 December 2014 06:40 (six years ago) link

Ave Maria bit was clearly trying to recreate Hallelujah over Bartlet giving the order to shoot down that Qumari dude + Simon Donovan getting toasted in the 7/11 in the West Wing. It didn't work at all.

ailsa, Monday, 8 December 2014 10:45 (six years ago) link

then they did it again this ep!

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 8 December 2014 16:12 (six years ago) link

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/08/tweeting-towards-bethlehem-newsroom-week-5/

Natasha Vargas-Cooper: There’s a term in poker for when you bet too much and you don’t make great decisions: you are ON TILT. Aaron Sorkin was ON TILT last night.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:34 (six years ago) link

Also: potential drinking game each time someone says "your generation."

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:36 (six years ago) link

Already missing this show, there's nothing else in the same vein on tv.

hobbes, Monday, 15 December 2014 05:35 (six years ago) link

man this was such total garbage

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 15 December 2014 06:53 (six years ago) link

lol @ a 90min finale of a show about news having abt three lines of dialogue about Mandela on his death bed and 89min of soap opera tropes

gr8080, Monday, 15 December 2014 14:19 (six years ago) link

I've been told there was a musical number

The Understated Twee Hotel On A Mountain (silby), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:16 (six years ago) link

at a wake

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:32 (six years ago) link

at least neal came out looking ok

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 01:57 (six years ago) link

*takes down website for entire week*

gr8080, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:10 (six years ago) link

omg the musical number.

sorkin shows are the sound of boomers slowly disintegrating and their bonedust fluttering into the breeze

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 05:28 (six years ago) link

*takes down website for entire week*

― gr8080, Monday, December 15, 2014 10:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha ha

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 06:23 (six years ago) link

Haha y'all didn't feel anything for any of these characters? neal and maggie were a little annoying, but the rest? Their corny earnestness just made them more endearing! The whole show was ridiculous but that's what made it great, enjoyment of it demanded the viewer take it less seriously than it wanted to be taken, if that makes sense.
Like how was will maccavoy walking into the garage of his newly dead best friend and having an impromptu jam session on accoustic guitar with his best friends newly depressed cello playing grandson not the most entertaining thing you saw all year.
Have never seen the west wing/studio 60 but the writing here seemed as sharp as his movies. charlie and sloan were some of sorkins best characters.

hobbes, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 10:27 (six years ago) link

the show spent so much time presuming i would FEEL FEELING about Will and Mac or goddamn Jim and Maggie that i was pleasantly surprised when Don and Sloan ended up being the most compelling relationship in the show. Lisa is still the show's MVP for her speech when she got fed up with Jim and Maggie's passive aggressive love triangle bullshit.

some dude, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 13:27 (six years ago) link

I love that this didn't even wind up producing as many episodes as Ken Finkleman's The Newsroom.

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 December 2014 14:47 (six years ago) link

some dude otm. olivia munn really came out of this show surprisingly well.

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 16:27 (six years ago) link

i'm still kinda confused what people were ever so mad at her about.

some dude, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 16:35 (six years ago) link

it's about ethics in fictional journalism

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 16:38 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

Haven't read thread but this is good at an ally mcbeal level and i am in love with mac

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:03 (two weeks ago) link

how far in are you

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

mostly I just need to know if you've gotten to the bin laden scene

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:56 (two weeks ago) link

Ive been busy so just catching decent comedy snippets and showy dialogue and devastating silhouettes of macs blouse/skirt game but "we" have in fact blitzed through to the season 2 finale since last friday

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 21:31 (two weeks ago) link

I recall a stretch in the second season that sort of threatened to be OK, and then they got to the college rape storyline and it was all downhill sharply from there

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:45 (one week ago) link

the 'buckle up sweetie, here's why America used to be good and now sucks' monologue should have gotten this shit cancelled after the first episode

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:54 (one week ago) link

Absolutely the worst thing to ever air on HBO, including Arli$$.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:54 (one week ago) link

As they say, "One man's Mede is another man's Persian."

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 03:01 (one week ago) link

oh man, this was actually p bad huh. the whole season is just gonna be emily mortimer's beseeching face & endless cycles of affirmation & reaffirmation & pledging & repledging of commitment to a non-specific noble idea.

schlump

Well make up yr mind which is it

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2021 00:50 (one week ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.