GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

yeah, i know. I almost called dan selzer to thread.

Ok love you guys but lol @ responding to criticism of girls for being too narcissistic and myopic with “it perfectly represented my experience and I was shocked that not everyone felt that way.” Honest but still funny.

lol

it's kind of amazing how much attention she's gotten and continues to get six and a half years after Girls premiered. that list is nuts. I love the half-kidding suggestion by the author that Lena Dunham's whole life is a performance piece.

yea that list is outstanding shes an icon

there's something weird where i find her annoying or whatever but also find the virulent reactions to her to be annoying

my man

yes

it's fascinating though how volatile the persona, whatever she represents, is - because the article also (accurately) positions her as nobody's daughter: find me someone who loves Lena Dunham's work & persona without reservation. there's also something to the Groundhog Day aspect, it's the same conversation every time. and people go off! still! I get it of course, the Cut profile is wild even for her.

Dunham begins to remove her hoops and gold rings. “This is what I do right before my naps. I take off my jewels. I get ready to snug out,” she says, gently dismissing me so she can get back into bed.

I also do that

who doesn't?

Snugs out with a gravity blanket. At least that's what I overheard her saying when I had breakfast at the Hollywood Diner on 6th ave one table behind her and Gillian Jacbos a few weeks ago.

https://kgw.me/track/like-lena-dunham

“She looked like Lena Dunham…

…but nobody could tell.
They just don't know her work that well
outside of London.

So all references fail.
She's just another white female –
but it's Lena Dunham!

What, they can't subtitle her show?
I mean it's hardly hyperlocal,
though Lena Dunham

desires not to be universal.
Someone should let her editors know.
Heyo!

“I built an empire out of blood and sweat
and life's little disconnects,
and I ain't finished yet.

I've dealt with my fair share of ignorance
So what's the difference?
I mean, in a bigger sense,

I could be a shitty neighbor or a brilliant fence,
like Lena Dunham.

I thought I had a story to tell.
Now I think maybe I don't.
But also, ‘Hey, what the hell?
What's life but suffering?

I guess she just looks like anyone else.
I mean, I kind of look like her myself –
who, Lena Dunham?!

Oh God I actually totally do!
And wait a minute, why am I totally nude
like Lena Dunham?!

I feel like this could be misconstrued.
I should probably read a few interviews
with Lena Dunham

and learn about her cultural baggage.
I mean, I'm not a fucking savage!
To wit:

“I watched the liquid dribble down my chest,
feeling powerless,
wondering ‘God, what next,

another thousand hours of profound regret?
Perhaps a breakdown on set,
or just a pound of flesh

for the dogs or the press?
Or just a long slog to my death?
There must be somethin'...

...if I had a mind like an elephant,
maybe I could fly like a god-damned pelican.
Like, “Hey, I'm just being playfully irreverent
kinda like the time i went on Letterman on mescaline and dexedrine!

So I look a little like a lesbian.
So I read a little too much into instant messages.
So I have a voice and an agenda and I'm not afraid to leverage them.
So I'm belletristic and ephemerally relevant –

everybody knows:
no one cares which way the wind blows
until it fucks them.

And in the end, the love you steal
has no connection to what you feel,
like
Lena
Dunham.”

https://io9.com/dear-woman-hating-comic-store-employees-eat-a-bowl-of-1582628453

Ehh, slow clap gif

is there no complete series boxset of Girls?

Everyone who'd buy a Girls box set already has HBO Now.

Though commentary tracks with Dunham would be priceless.

would prefer commentary from Kirke and Mamet tbh

would prefer a commentary track from the Gallaghers

wld be hard to get liam and noel to collaborate on something

I'd like to watch the show (only ever saw the first season) and am winking at my loved ones re: this boxset but looks like the seasons are all piecemeal and most aren't even available

lol Simon

for Xmas xp

rewatch of the whole series is mostly just confirming my initial impression - there is a severe dropoff that sets in around season 3, and by season 4 we are in largely joke-free melodrama territory where every episode gets at least one terrible "emotional" musical montage moment of people being angst-ridden in bed or walking down lonely streets or whatever. Really goes off the rails by expecting us to have an emotional investment in a cast populated almost entirely by delusional narcissistic jerks.

Really goes off the rails by expecting us to have an emotional investment in a cast populated almost entirely by delusional narcissistic jerks.

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2018/11/07/always-sunny-dance/07-always-sunny-mac-9.w700.h467.2x.jpg

yeah I didn't like that episode either

yeah it's not so much that it obsesses on inconsequential things (which plenty of good entertainment and fiction does) as that it asks the audience to treat those things as much more consequential than they are

https://forward.com/schmooze/415469/lena-dunham-apologizes-admits-she-lied-to-discredit-alleged-rape-victim/

Lena and her wacky gaffes

Trump: “I dumped a bunch of old uranium in the refugee camp because I hate kids.”
DSA guys online: “He’s so funny.”
Lena Dunham: “I’m sorry for my mistakes. I guess I’m human.”
DSA guys online: “I hate that stupid woman. I am so angry. I am squeezing my medical rage ball.”

— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) December 6, 2018

you know he's being ironic right

but kudos for actually posting a tweet from a good poster that people actually follow for once

You’ve missed this one

Lol

Was that a good tweet? I don’t think it is.

Xp

seriously tho when you're a White Feminist really the only thing you have to do is not libel survivors, peak "you had one job" shit

Anyway, Lena’s actions here were harmful. I think she was trying to defend a friend and was probably in denial, but that in no way excuses it.

a lot of how celebrities act now is most entertainment is being made by rich kids is how i break it down to an extent

but she's not literally hitler so stfu

?

he's being ironic

Sounsa like Lena means that the guy accused told her stuff that wasn’t true. Headline is bad.

Yeah, but she said she had privileged information which proved it wasn't true. She now admits she made that up.

Think it through a bit more. I know he’s known for ironic posts but there’s a clear joke there and he makes fun of group think among people he politically agrees with all the time.

“While our first instinct is to listen to every woman’s story, our insider knowledge of Murray’s situation makes us confident that sadly this accusation is one of the 3 percent of assault cases that are misreported every year,” they wrote, concluding, “We stand by Murray and this is all we’ll be saying about this issue.”
Read more: https://forward.com/schmooze/415469/lena-dunham-apologizes-admits-she-lied-to-discredit-alleged-rape-victim/

“I didn’t have the ‘insider information’ I claimed but rather blind faith in a story that kept slipping and changing and revealed itself to mean nothing at all,”
Read more: https://forward.com/schmooze/415469/lena-dunham-apologizes-admits-she-lied-to-discredit-alleged-rape-victim/

Xp not really

Think it through a bit more. I know he’s known for ironic posts but there’s a clear joke there and he makes fun of group think among people he politically agrees with all the time.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:06 PM (eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his online personality is from the POV - feigned or real - of a trad cath and stalinist. he pillories the dsa regularly, usually in a clearly playful, but consistent manner