hannah is now at larry david levels of cartoonish self absorption.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link
she always was.
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:46 (ten years ago) link
Yeah but now it's extra super duper obvious
― vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
Like I have had tons of convos w/ ppl who legitimately do not pick up on the fact that Hannah is meant to be a pretty unlikable character and I feel like this is the first episode that gets really explicit about that and also the first that uses it as a plot point.
― vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:03 (ten years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:28 (ten years ago) link
yeah this ep was maybe a shark-jumping moment w/r/t the characters seeming like actual plausible people instead of (or in addition to) broad (lol) caricatures. I dig it tho. I also continue to envy the (old?) people who are all head-scratching "Do real people actually do that???" yes my generation is legit filled with narcissists and addicts and compulsive liars, let me show you them
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:04 (ten years ago) link
How the hell did Laird get a turtle into a POM bottle
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:48 (ten years ago) link
Only plausible explanation is that he put a baby turtle inside the POM bottle and the POM bottle was the turtle's home for 3 years because that's how long it takes for turtles to grow that big
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:49 (ten years ago) link
I thought this episode was pretty good
Despite the hammy device of killing off a minor character
I feel that we've all had a distant relative or acquaintance die
And we don't feel the feels that we've been taught to feel
It's a good topic for exploration I think
Totally saw the Caroline "I made it up" reveal coming
Was hoping that Adam would have gone "Hey wait /I/ had a cousin named Margaret" at the end for the double twist
Unfortunately it seems so obvious that Hannah would only be able to feel the feels about death if that death were fictional
And the ebook jokes really fell flat
Also Marnie's Youtube page felt unrealistic because it had like 800+ votes and only 1600+ views
That's an insane vote to view ratio
I dare anybody to show me a Youtube with a ratio that even comes close
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link
haha I love yr attention to detail. did you catch the knob falling off the oven during Marnie's crazy smoothie-making scene?
*minor SPOILZ* I believed Caroline's story for about 0.5 words, I think the second sentence was something like "he used to sit in the living room for hours beside her hospital bed"—I didn't even consider the Hannah-can-only-feel-bad-about-a-fictional-death angle tho, that's interesting.
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 12:27 (ten years ago) link
Man I didn't catch that
But that scene made me think Marnie was turning into a #lifehacker
Like in the last episode of High Maintenance http://vimeo.com/channels/highmaintenance/79948720 High Maintenance - Very good web-series. Discuss.
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 12:35 (ten years ago) link
I don't know if I'd ever use coconut water as a smoothie base
That's crazy
I used a sample of coconut water to cook some rice for Indian food, because drinking it is not an option.
Guilty LOLs at Hannah's reaction to loss of editor. Every writer facing an 'orphan' situation (when the commissioning editor for one's book leaves/dies) just sits there thinking but not saying 'how does this affect my project?' and I refuse to pretend otherwise.
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link
yeah marnie's smoothie made me gag
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
"he used to sit in the living room for hours beside her hospital bed" is not nec. a red flag -- "hospital bed" doesn't mean "bed in a hospital", it means "bed with all the accoutrements of a hospital bed." it's fair enough that a terminally ill and largely bedbound kid would have a "hospital bed" in whatever room they were in. that said caroline's story was still pretty transparent, i think!
i didn't pay attention to marnie's smoothie-making, what did i miss
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
1/4 of a banana in some coconut water is apparently a smoothie.
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Coconut water is a fine base for a smoothie.
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
flag post city. population: treeship
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
this was really funny somehow. this whole ten-second scene, with the self-help monologue in the background and marnie's determined face.
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
― 龜, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:48 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 龜, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:49 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i thought about this for five straight minutes too
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
this only just occured to me now and it's blowing my mind
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
The turtle thing was pretty strange. Also what the fuck is going on with Jessa the past two episodes. Was her friend really named "Season"? And what was the point of that whole subplot?
― pearly-dewdrops' bops (monotony), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
pom bottle being the turtles world was my immediate thought and i really appreciate them never bringing it up
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah this ep was solid except for the jessa subplot
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
xxpost re jessa I'm not really sure, seems like part of an ongoing point about jessa + people/relationships
jessa's friend faked her own death to stop being friends with her, so it seems like the point is that jessa's relationships even on a friendship level are v v dysfunctional and that she pretty much does what she wants without really any regard for other people and she is basically oblivious to their needs etc
but then that girl was maybe kind of fucked up already if she's going to fake her own death instead of manning up to jessa
idk I kinda liked the subplot, it made me lol because jessa is so weird I like her
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
her convo with shosh was hilarious too btw
Jessa's being "the self-destructive one" starting to get a bit one-dimensional+an ep filled with reminders of mortality+I was stoned
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I was half-expecting it to end with Jessa's sudden death? idk
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
didn't that actress had conflicts at some point i read about on the gawkster or am i just imagining things now
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link
jessa's inflection on "none of this is going to work out for you by the way" was excellent petty evil
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
low-key but in substance a vicious hateful curse
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:32 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Maybe you're thinking about Charlie?
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link
Jessa subplot was silly I agree but otoh the writers probably wrote "DEATH" on the whiteboard when brainstorming for this episode and really who in the room was gonna get up and erase that and write down something different??
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
I dunno I thought this was a good callback to the episode where Ray told Hannah to write about serious shit (like death) and she failed miserably
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link
i want more ray, i like him
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
lol c'mon a character like Jessa having a friend named "Season" is one of the most plausible things on this entire show.
― vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
Unlike every other movie or TV show where a young person's bedroom has been production-designed with completely incongruous band posters, everything seems totally real on GIRLS
― Walter Galt, Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:56 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah totally realistic that a coffee shop worker and a, what? what does adam do? live in a 2 bedroom apartment in Brooklyn.
adam in this episode greeted marnie with "hey marnie are you enjoying your life of doing absolutely fucking nothing all day?" but marnie has had jobs in the show. rather implausible ones but, you know. adam sometimes makes things out of metal and wrote half of a play and that's about the size of it.
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
controversial opinion that I would like to be disabused of: jessa is a really boring and rote character. no idea what other people enjoy about her. I think there's empathy and compassion for her despite her sometimes shitty-ness, but I don't get any insight or humor from her escapades. what am I missing?
pessimistically feeling like this show has no real idea what it's doing so far this season. feels like a first draft with stock conflicts and half-hearted Larry Davidisms.
― ryan, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
one thing this show is really great at is showing how people are often willfully blind to their, uh, blind-spots. that people sorta choose to see what they see.
― ryan, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wait was that not to jessa
this was the first good ray episode for a minute, the on-going perpetual-high-register general Seinfeldization of Karpovsky has to stop & in this episode that tide was stemmed
― mustread guy (schlump), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
maybe it was, you're right.
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
That Gawker/Jezebel argument was like they were reading right off some thinkpiece from 2009. Hilarious. Also, I love Alex Karpovsky and wish to marry him.
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
pessimistically feeling like this show has no real idea what it's doing so far this season.
I also feel like it's a little unmoored. Concerned that maybe it's becoming some kind of a "by committee" process at HBO, or else that maybe Dunham is paying too much attention to what various critics say
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link
adam's rent is being paid by his grandma, this was addressed in season 1
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:43 (ten years ago) link
the central conceit is that he is a deeply conflicted trustafarian of sorts
i have some problems with the dialogue in this series - that even when it's good, like shosh's line about hannah's hair making her look like a boy on a fancy cookie box, it feels too perfectly above actual language - but i really did like that sweet adam line, i think "i wouldn't know what a tree was"
― mustread guy (schlump), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
it feels too perfectly above actual language
His GIRLS Friday
― 龜, Thursday, 30 January 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link
Episode 5 is on demand apparently. Watching now
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Thursday, 30 January 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link
― ryan, Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:00 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
Just had a #GIRLSidea - they should borrow a page from the X-Files and introduce a Monster of the Week concept that would allow the writers to rest during that week & generate cool and good multi-episode story arcs
― 龜, Thursday, 30 January 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link
ep.5 was kinda like that?
re: language: Shosh has a few good one-liners, but the overall tone of the dialogue in this episode (or at least Hannah, Adam, and Caroline's contributions to it) could only be described as 'hysterical'
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
... and maybe 'exhausting'
― my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link