GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

queens awaits you morbs

that GQ Drake article is pretty awesome + o_O

god, fuck Gavin McInnes

Gavin McInnes being a fully-developed conservative douchebag at this point is kind of like the writer/directors of The Matrix seeing that people liked their film and then expanding on and developing the parts people found stupid and distasteful.

Only Vice magazine was not as good as the first Matrix film

people who were excited about vice or the matrix in the first place deserve whatever embarrassment they get imo

they had some pretty ok moments I guess

Momus was in both, iirc

lol

Well, I'm caught up - to the first episode.

like a realistic version of people being bad at drugs like when he asks his gf if its ok to have some opium T

I though that was just he was cautious that he doesn't want to embarrass his awesome girlfriend, whereas she is thinking "Please please do something actually embarrassing so that I can dump you w/a clear conscience" (though that scenario doesn't work for her as she ends up hiding in the bedroom then the toilet from him).

I liked the English girl because a) science shows I like English girls, but also she wasn't Shosanna Mamet and she was graceful when SM kept wittering on about this show that the English girl has already said she has never watched!

Terrible pilot: 1000 posts
Good episode: +/- 50?

a) don't know if you notice, that's how things go b) 500 of those posts were from before the episode aired!

The beta males on Twitter seem confused by this “Racial McCarthyism” quote. It’s ironic that the people who use “Nazi” to mean “Anything bad” get thrown off by an anti-communist being used to conjure up something that isn’t specifically anti-communist. Check Wikipedia

looooool @ "Check Wikipedia"

it will be everyone's new favorite show and they will forget that they had a problem with it. now there will be east coast - west coast rap wars between portlandia and girls fans.

Saw that funny, self aware post on Gawker - "we're shitting on the wrong show" - that "Veep" topped "Girls" in the ratings. Shows the value of hype.

"Veep" has an established TV star.

veeps audience is also much more "grownups" who buy hbo, watch in real time, etc

Pretty sure "a name" is the decisive factor. If you recommend some kind of art film to a Regular American, I understand the most common response is "Who's in it?"

totally read that second sentence in a mr spock voice

veep is also way better than this crapola

this is better but i'm looking forward to more episodes of veep more

was gonna watch veep last night but sort of can't stop watching oz now

good news about oz, eventually it gets so melodramatic + boring that you'll be able to stop watching it :P

JK Simmons as a bad dude breaks my heart

hey guys I downloaded the second episode of this Girls show and it's really all about awkward people in their early 20s not having defined their own voices yet, so this "could be a voice of a generation" thing is pretty much full of lols

I mean, unless the show goes on eight years and characters are still saying clueless shit about STDs and AIDS and shit, then it'd be like the takimag half-hour sponsored by lol white people

That is so true about Simmons! It's so weird to watch him in that role but he's really really good.

I know, I just love that guy

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that's a good point. the concept behind this show doesn't seem to be designed to age well.

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lol, I don't consider it weird cuz it's the best role I've ever seen him in, and when he shows up in anything I think "the Nazi from Oz."

my fave part of Oz was yelling "hey dummy" at the screen whenever dennis duffy showed up

Yeah well I'm obv late to the Oz game. I had no idea he was even in it before I started watching.

Um. Dennis Duffy was sort of hot when he was younger. I was surprised.

By the way, keep in mind that the ratings on both shows technically suck. We're talking, like, a million vs. a million and a half viewers or such. If JLD's starpower is not enough to stretch that span even wider, I wouldn't credit her too much for the difference. I think Veep just has broader appeal beyond its depicted demographic. Vs. Girls, which I can't imagine appeals to anyone over 35 or so. Because "LOL fuck these people and their problems, I've got shit to do."

if they added JK Simmons to either show they'd have a sure-fire winner

I'd watch it.

A friend is like Morbs and finds it pretty difficult to watch the Spiderman films because hey, why is a Nazi running that newspaper that Peter Parker works for? To say nothing of Juno.

must be a hard life

he is skoda the shrink from law and order, come on

my parents liked watching "the closer" and i didn't mind when i was at there place because hey, look, jk simmons!

I know most of the major Oz characters died but I liked to pretend that they all were outsourced into positions in the L&O franchise

Or they found an new and exciting life in, er, The Wire.

"LOL fuck these people and their problems, I've got shit to do"<-even better title honestly

haha that's how i feel about almost all tv shows, so i don't watch them!
i'll keep watching GIRLS, however
and GAME OF THRONES and DOCTOR WHO

oh man, my current tv watching list is pretty bad

if they added JK Simmons to either show they'd have a sure-fire winner

he was just on BFF, the "NYC women dealing with love and life" show getting the least attention

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/girls-hbo-racist_b_1451931.html

"I have to say that I'm absolutely astonished that, of all shows, this is the one that is being attacked for being too white. I could list the shows on television with all-white casts, but then we'd be here all day. If I threw a roster of the shows that are all white but have a token non-white person who is rarely the focus of any important stories, we'd be here well into the evening."

exactly.

(i have way more nuanced things to say but am too busy atm)

that is definitely true, but to be fair i think some of the criticism of Girls on this front has come from people like me who were more invested in it than in 2 broke girls or 2 and a half men or whatever else is on tv. holding it to a higher standard because we like it. not that that's fair; i essentially agree with her and with the dude who reported on the the arfin lady's missteps who said the same thing.

holding it to a higher standard because we like it.

reminds me of when people debated the representation of women in Knocked Up, as if most comedies have women do more than prove the heterosexuality of the male leads.

i understand that, but there's something slightly...off...about a show that seems to be much more interesting in its representation of young women/sex/anxieties that is created by (and largely written and directed and starring) not only a woman, but an incredibly young woman in this context, and then to say "well, you're much better than everything else about these things you're doing, but you haven't done race properly so FUCK OFF". Not that I"m saying you, horseshoe, are saying those things or being that dismissive of it, but a hell of a lot of people online are.

is maureen ryan reeeaaalllly astonished that the hbo show about 20somethings livin and lovin in greenpoint is the one that is having the most stuff written about it

Girls is less fantastical than other all-white sitcoms - when you start with press about Dunham writing her experiences and give it a look that approaches the real world (instead of How I Met Your Mother's enormous apartment that was leased to a low-level architect and law student to start with), that's going to garner more "why doesn't it really look/feel like the real world then" criticisms.