~~~~~nutrition nazis 2012~~~~~

i don't deserve to be starting this thread but it's almost springtime and you are all clearly eating bad foods in 2012

i have eaten three easter eggs in the past 48 hours

is that candy?

i resolve not to eat out this week except for friday lunch at work (and i will NOT eat french fries at friday lunch)
i just went shopping and was hungry so i got a buttload of vegetables and spent way too much moneys

i go to whole foods for lunch like every day and i end up spending a fortune, not on lunch but on picking up things here and there for the house (yesterday, for example: kale, some fish to make for dinner, coffee). my plan has been to make salads only from the section of raw vegetables (no hot food or prepared salads). my store has been great lately with adding kale, chard, arugula, fennel, etc. on the non-dressed, raw portion of the bar. i think their sliced grilled chicken is too salty but there's not a lot of good protein options. they have hardboiled eggs but i think i eat enough eggs as it is and don't really want to add more to my diet.

i need to a) pack lunch more often, b) get a rack and some pannier bags for my bike so that when i ride to work i can take lunch (as is it is not practical to put salad in a backpack)

I bought a bunch of vegetables last week and I am perpetually worried that they will go bad why because I am just one person!

I need to do a lot better with breakfast and should also have a decent lunch stashed away at work so I don't succumb to crap when fail to pack a lunch in the morning.

Also need to stop eating the same size dinner portions as my 6'1", 170 lb, 20-mile-a-week-running husband. Unless of course I too would like to reach 170 lb, which would be unhealthy for my height/frame, not to mention NAGL.

when I was home a week ago my mom brought home some leftovers from a catered event at work, it was this salad w/ nice lettuce and spinach greens and dried cranberries and walnuts, w/ some kind of vinaigrette, it was really nice, gave me some salad ideas

i think i eat too many calories at breakfast but it's really important for me not to get too hungry in the morning because i need brain function and have no time to eat a snack before lunch. i am good at bringing lunch. tza i have some glass food containers that seal very well and would allow you to put salad in a backpack. i got a few of them at target, they are anchor brand with a lid that you can push down on to create a vacuum that holds the lid on tight. but maybe you are talking about some other reason you can't put salad in a backpack.

Mostly bc not enough room but also fear of spillage

they should make a special pannier with a lining so you can just make the salad inside the pannier. i'm literally lolling at this idea.

the other pannier could be a salad spinner powered by your rear wheel so that you can wash the salad before work and have it dry by the time you get to work

this could be like a new cinco product on tim&eric

T, I put the raw veg, chopped up but undressed, in a tupperware or take-out container, and put the dressing (home-made whatever) in those little condiment cups you get with commercial salads or DUMPLINGS! or w/e. Dress @ work. Solved!

is that candy?

― tehresa, Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:32 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Instead of Easter baskets in England they do these giant chocolate easter eggs that and then usually filled with lots of little smaller chocs so basically what Thomp is saying is that he's eaten a shitload of chocolate today.

Sometimes when I'm lazy/late in the morning, I just throw whole veg into a grocery bag and do the washing and slicing and dicing in the office kitchen.

I have done that too, Laurel. It really saves time in the am.

I am sick and subsequently eating like crap and just laying on the couch. It's not good. :/

Yes tupperware is great and I'd never pre-dress. seriously I just have a backpack that barely fits my work clothes and shoes and spare tube etc. panniers would help!

This post written on elliptical machine lol!

made split peas soup Wednesday and ate it for three nights. except for one lunch of chicken been sticking to vegetarian this week. that will end in ribs 2nite. asparagus is 1.99 a lb, bought two pounds

ah man the asparagus I bought a week ago had started drying out, that's what I'm worried about, I will be having asparagus tonight as well

also like half of my onions sprouted :(

it just made me sad because I keep my onions in the dark so the sprouts were sickly yellow, I would feel better if they were a healthy robust green, grow strong you little warriors

haha, leaving things like onions and potatoes alone in a cupboard, forgotten, can get scary

an alternate salad-transport idea:

http://wellvegan.com/salad/salad-in-a-jar

(haven't tried it tho)

ah man the asparagus I bought a week ago had started drying out, that's what I'm worried about, I will be having asparagus tonight as well

If you store them like flowers, upright in a dish of water, w/a plastic bag over it, it lasts much longer!

http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20110525-food-lab-asparagus-09.jpg

i had an onion that sprouted and i've just been leaving it on the shelf to see how much it will grow. it's like 14 inches now. i'm gross.

I am going to put the onions out by where it can feel some sun

if I am feeling mischievous I will even put them in my neighbor's yard!

that is a pro tip, abbbottt!

Do you want another pro tip about making onions sprout on purpose? If you cut up green onions/scallions, save the little rooty bulbs. If you put them in a glass of water they will resurrect (takes over a week) and you have a second round of green onions FOR FREE.

http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/DSCN51081.jpg

oh man I bought an overabundance of green onions last week. I first bought a bunch from the normal supermarket for .50 because they looked good. then when I went to the chinese market they were selling them 3 for a dollar.

I was pleased to see that my last bunch of green onions, they would grow in the fridge after I had chopped them. it was, indeed, like you said, two for the price of one!

I don't know what to do with all my green onions though. I added some to the guac I made today.

Instead of Easter baskets in England they do these giant chocolate easter eggs that and then usually filled with lots of little smaller chocs so basically what Thomp is saying is that he's eaten a shitload of chocolate today.

whoa do Americans not have easter eggs? this is blowing my mind

yes, an Easter egg is a hollow chocolate egg I guess 5"-7" tall and usually containing/bundled with bags of smaller chocolates, chocolate bars, etc

will def be trying the spring onion trick, I always get grumpy buying them because the shop sells them in bundles of like 10 and I only want maybe 2 or 3 (and even that will involve putting a great excess of onion into something and having horrible oniony sweat for the next 2 days </tmi>) and then they'll go off, and then I'll buy another 10 in two weeks

Yeah I don't use green onions all that often; regrow time is abut the time I want to use them again.

do you completely submerge the bulbs or leave the top in the air or does it not matter? do you need to change the water ever?

(sorry if i am being overthinking cat)

whoa do Americans not have easter eggs? this is blowing my mind

yes, an Easter egg is a hollow chocolate egg I guess 5"-7" tall and usually containing/bundled with bags of smaller chocolates, chocolate bars, etc

Nope, not in the way that you guys do. We get baskets filled with jelly beans and small chocolate Easter eggs and bunnies and stuff but we don't get the big eggs in a box like you do. TBH I think our baskets are better than your eggs cause we usually get more stuff but we don't get Good Friday or Easter Monday off so you guys probably win Easter in the end. ;) One time I wanted to make Spiralli and Easter basket so went all over looking for one and couldn't find anything even close so I bought a bucket and was going to make him and Easter bucket but then I left it all on the tube. :(

Also, I would like a big Crunchie egg now.

w/the onions I let their little decapitated necks stick out of the water, and I add more water as it evaps/gets used, works for me
I have them in a stemless wine glass

This is the sort of thing we get as kids. Mostly chocolates and treats but sometimes they have small toys and stuff in them too.

http://praisecleveland.com/files/2011/04/easter-baskets-for-children-girls.jpg

Abbott otm re asaparagus storage. It should be stored like that in the supermarket too tbh and if it isn't and the bottoms are all dried out that's a bad thing.

asparagus, rather

I always get grumpy buying them because the shop sells them in bundles of like 10 and I only want maybe 2 or 3

SO TRUE

It's kind of like Christmas on a smaller scale and with more chocolate.

Easter, that is.

Pretty much, yeah.

Oh and the baskets are hidden by the bunny so you to go looking for them when you get up. That was always my favorite part.

Humpty Dumpty chocolate egg filled with smarties = Easter

I can't really get down with the baskets and weird colored eggs. Also hunting for eggs that aren't chocolate seems somehow wrong, lol.

Anyhow NNs I have been struggling with snacks. I have Lara bars, raw trail mix of raisins/almonds/seeds/etc, whatever fruit is in season but my problem is I get BORED eating the same things! Suggestions? Meals I'm okay with. It's the between times where I get a little crazy.

guys i feel like hitler but don't post about easter candy on this thread or i will have you transported to a camp

i like larabars, i also like to eat an orange and a square of dark chocolate for snax or a nonfat yogurt

does anyone know if 100% buckwheat soba noodles exist? i was at the chinese store looking at 5 different brands of soba noodles and all of them have the first ingredient "wheat." i don't care too much though.

they do but it's usually a japanese product

I used to be able to recognize the kanji for them but alas I have forgotten

oh yeaaaaah wikipedia

The most famous Japanese soba noodles come from Nagano. Soba from Nagano is called Shinano Soba or Shinshu soba. Ni-hachi (二八, two-eight) soba, consists of two parts of wheat and eight of buckwheat; Juuwari (十割, 100%) soba, the finest (and usually most expensive) variety, consists entirely of buckwheat.

i got a package of them but i'll check h-mart after i use them up. i think soba noodle salad with dry-fried tofu and peanut sauce and vegetables would be a good cold work lunch.

xps thankyou ODM! but i think it's just not the diet for me. i think lots of different extreme or semi extreme diets work, but only for certain people.

I would be surprised if the group approach works anything like 85% of the time in the long term.

remember this lol

i want to change the way i eat and live. making a vegan stir fry tonight. BUT also drinking a Sixpoint Resin so

i wish i could get hypnotized out of my love of IPAs. they're one of my only true dietary vices but they mess so much up--in the morning i will feel dehydrated and won't want to go running

unfortunately i do remember this

it seems like "nutrition nazis" is a self-defeating way to think about eating healthier. you gotta crave the good feelings that comes from health, not fetishize the fact that you're denying yourself foods that make you feel bad and hurt your health

how many times does it need to be said?!

i guess over and over until no one affixes "nazi" to the word "nutrition" anymore

Mostly I smirked thinking of the Great Sardine Stan of whatever year it was.

There was a LOT of talk about sardines at one point.

"Soup nazi" is funny til real nazis start killing worshipers and protesters.

sardines are our only hope

i never thought it was very funny to minimize nazism to imply strictness or whatever it is supposed to imply
i didn't like soup nazi either

there was a straight up sardine obsession here
also those horrible slimy yam "noodles"

Treeship have you tried something like Liquid IV? Would help with the hydration issues.

In an era when western right wing governments are calorie counting and implementing "popular" policies that subject "undeserving" sections of the population to much lower levels of nutrition than the majority and forcing them into charity foodbanks - that's the definition of Nutrition Nazis for me.

talk to me about intermittent fasting. am I going to turn into a libertarian doofus like j03 r0g4n

what do you expect to gain from intermittent fasting?

I've looked into it. I think its beneficial but not enough to override an otherwise bad diet, and its effects are wildly overstated by proponents.

Much of the cellular response to fasting doesn't occur without 3+ days of water-only or very hypercaloric nutrition, and I think the most interesting and adoptable fasting inspired approach is the fasting mimicking diet, 5+ days of a < 1000 kcal low protein diet, once a month or season.

sardines are our only hope

I have been meaning to eat sardines for like three months now but have not gotten around to it #NNfailure

I bought sardines thinking I would finally do the avocado on bread thing and I kept looking at the can and thinking of all the million things I would like to eat before I put those oily fishes in my mouth

#nnfail

advice: spread bread with tomato paste or passata, arrange fish on top, grate some cheese, grind pepper, grill

Damn need to try this!

lol, every time I walk past sardines in the grocery store I think about how ilx would want me to eat those.

oh, gave me another idea what to do w/harissa. ty, MatthewK! i don't eat 'em that often but when i do i usu get smoked sardines. dang, part of the reason i like them is bc i thought they were a sustainable seafood option. just looked on montereybayseafoodwatch and it seems they are not
https://www.seafoodwatch.org/seafood-recommendations/groups/sardine?q=Sardine

I love sardines with grey poupon.

Bitter greens: Sautee, add minced garlic, lemon juice. Voila, now they tasted like sauteed garlic and lemon!

I think Pacific sardines are considered a sustainable fish, Atlantic are not. I usually buy the Wild Planet brand, no sure how widely available it is.

is any fish sustainable anymore

A few fisheries are managed to maximize tonnage caught while theoretically not decreasing future stocks. And by a few, I mean just the ones listed as "best choices" in Monterrey Bay Aquarium's consumer guides.

Even the catch of Peruvian sardines has declined. Fish oil plants lay fallow, and the price is high enough that sardine meal is no longer a major component of cat food and farmed salmon feed.

i would buy arctic char but have never seen it in stores in Calif. i used to purchase a lot of it when my job was purchaser though. it's a v nice alt. to salmon/trout (not really crazy about trout tbh). would be happy to live on scallops, oysters and sand dabs

I have objections to some of these in the "good choices" category. Gulf shrimp, for example, requires dragging nets over the seabed, and that destroys habitat for juveniles of finfish.

Re: nutrition, I delved into the seafood components most likely to provide direct benefit (not just by displacing red/processed meat). Its likely just long chain omega-3s (EPA/DHA) and taurine. There are vegan supplement alternatives.

I still viscerally loathe this thread title.

We can request a mod to change it, yeah?

I did a couple of weight loss bets where I did intermittent fasting and it worked pretty well. IDK about the supposed health benefits (besides eating less overall) but I will say after a week or so you get used to it

I was doing 24-48 hour fasting every week to other weekish, depending on how I felt or my plans, for about two years. It was fine. I usually tried to do it mon-tues or thurs-fri while I was at work so I would be busy and have a routine.

It sucked at first but I eventually got so used to it I could still work out the morning of the third day before having my first real meal to eat. Hmmm, this all sounds very crazy.

yeah 48 hours sounds tough but 24 is really no problem, I skip breakfast most days anyway so it's just a matter of skipping lunch really. it doesn't really affect you as much as you'd think.

wtf 48 hours??? working out the morning of the third day before finally eating?

why u do this?

i mean "food restriction thread" is accurate -- there is nothing in here specifically about nutrition and personally i am opposed to " _____ nazi" anything

doesn't matter what i think, it's just inaccurate and also (imo) offensive

I know it sounds nutty but this is when I was in really really good shape and eating basically the Tom Brady diet. If I fasted on thurs and fri I had a saturday morning kickboxing class that I really liked so I would go to that first before eating my breakfast. Technically I was consuming 200-300 calories on those fasting days spread throughout (like small amounts of green juice) so it was soothing and I never really felt lightheaded or sick or whatever. I was just looking up my bloodwork from those years and things like my cholesterol were insanely good.

I used to have one meal a day. Just worked out easier. I was never lightheaded. Now w a family, it wld be anti-social (?) to do that really.

not sure where to put this. i think it's interesting. but then got to the end and, uggh:

Companies such as Nestlé are investing heavily in functional food ingredients, dietary supplements, and medical nutrition products in order to be able to provide foodservice operators with more options when it comes to the ingredients and products they can supply.

https://www.restaurant.org/Articles/News/The-restaurant-of-the-future?fbclid=IwAR3mgUvolkgihzf57S5z2q2AepUMxL17dgeo7jZY8GU2uBRBjsW60Ak7iDM

lads... sardines

lol, every time I walk past sardines in the grocery store I think about how ilx would want me to eat those.

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After buying several tins of sardines over the years, which would inevitably waste away in the back of the cabinet, I finally cracked a tin this morning and am eating them with lemon juice. This is not bad at all. Can definitely include these in my healthy food options.

When I gave up vegetarianism several years ago, I was sick and fucking tired of beans, and have avoided them to a large extent since then. However, last year my daughter was diagnosed with some food issues, so she has been eating black beans every single night. So recently, I started throwing a can of beans a day into the mix somewhere for myself. As a guy who struggles with excessive snacking, they're remarkably satiating.

You guys, I've recently taken up swimming in addition to the sardines and on those days when I happen to combine those two activities, I feel like a motherfucking PENGUIN.

Yes! Best sardines I’ve had so far are the Bella brand. Also Trader Joe’s has some good ones imo - although a bit salty tasting.

Bela! Not Bella.

Yes! I've had a few cans of theirs. I like the piri-piri ones best. I buy them as treats though, because they are the most expensive in my supermarket ($4 vs $3 for King Oscar, I think, which isn't that much, but whatever). I had a ridiculous time trying to open a can of Brunswick sardines, so I don't think I'll try them again.