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it looks like i am going in early may! i need some basic advice. i am plotting out an itinerary and what i am thinking is fly into madrid, hang out there for a few days, rent a car (which is $15 a day i guess, cheaper than the train unless i'm really misinformed?) and driving up and down the mediterranean coast. we need to be in murcia for a few days for a music festival but have nowhere else specifically - we could either drive south along the coast and loop back or go up to barcelona.

does anyone have any advice on a good route to take/must see stuff? thanks!

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:20 (nine years ago) link

i also need advice on stuff like affordable accommodations, where to stuff my face with jamon, etc.

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:23 (nine years ago) link

please try to get yourself to san sebastian
that is my #1 suggestion

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:24 (nine years ago) link

a little bit of advice on these old threads. I was in Madrid and the Southern coast a long time ago. Hmmmm let me think

Another reason among the many to visit Spain

Tell me what to do when I go to Spain for two weeks!

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:26 (nine years ago) link

the trains are really expensive, unless you buy the tickets exactly two weeks ahead of time, when they release a limited number of discounted tickets. but it doesn't really matter cause the website for the trains is basically a black hole of frustration. the high speed trains are really nice though, and there is a digital display of the traveling speed in all the cars.
i was just in spain but not in these parts (except for a quick 2 day stop in madrid) but 2nd the suggestion of going to san sebastian.

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:40 (nine years ago) link

murcia-alicante-valencia-barca is all along the coast and if driving's your thing then it's a slog but good times

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:43 (nine years ago) link

i really don't mind driving! the high speed trains look crazy, but i am trying to be relatively frugal so the car rental seems like a good way to get around. is there a benefit to doing a southern route (down towards gibraltar) as opposed to northern?

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:00 (nine years ago) link

they're just super different parts of the country, it's up to you what part you want to see. also if you're driving please budget a lot for tolls -- the roads are really really nice and well marked, but they have outrageous tolls.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:02 (nine years ago) link

and we might not need to go all the way up to barcelona but just hang around the murcia/alicante area (possibly up to valencia?), it might be too ambitious. it would be cool to take a ferry/boat somewhere, but i'm guessing ibiza is skippable!

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:04 (nine years ago) link

good to know about tolls!

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:04 (nine years ago) link

murcia-valencia is i dunno 3-4 hours

yes, tolls is a good point- though you can take the coastal roads and avoid some of them- it's slower but prettier imo

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:09 (nine years ago) link

Renting a car will also cost more than $15 USD daily, or at least it did last year.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:10 (nine years ago) link

I would stan for Andalusia - Seville, Ronda - but only because that's the bit I'm most familiar with. Don't know the Blanca/Dorado/Brava bits that well. My parents speak highly of Northern Spain though - Leon, Oviedo, Bilbao, San Sebastián might make a good roadtrip?

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Hiking in the Pyrenees in Torla was one of the highlights of my trip -- gorgeous medieval village in the middle of a national park/nature area. AMAZING.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:17 (nine years ago) link

la lechera otm, GO TO SAN SEBASTIAN.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:20 (nine years ago) link

and yeah Bilbao is lovely too, great people in both San Seb and Bilbao.

there are good pencions (spanish people using their flat/house as a guesthouse) in most places.

in fact if you go san seb i can recommend one, unless you intend to stay somewhere fancy. it was very very basic but safe, central, and clean, and the owner made us basque custard tarts and stuff, really fun.

san sebastian is like a food paradise.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:23 (nine years ago) link

toooootally a food paradise
easy to get around on foot too, amazing beach, bizarro amusement park on top of a religious monument

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:25 (nine years ago) link

so bummed that the funicular was closed the day i tried to go to that amusement park.

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:26 (nine years ago) link

this is but one of the amusements

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6134/5976905378_f43801484e.jpg

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:28 (nine years ago) link

and the food was amazing. but honestly the food was amazing everywhere i went in spain.

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah, p much

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6007/5976345131_803d18a734.jpg

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:29 (nine years ago) link

was fuego negro open when you guys were there? a tapas bar up near the church in the old town but markedly different from the older bars, really swanky in a sort of naff way apart from the fact the food is this insanely good fusion type tapas, it was really incredible.

other than that it's nice having foie gras everywhere, and those squadrones of spanish men singing opera songs as they go from bar to bar. best way to get drunk ever...

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:34 (nine years ago) link

we mostly went to local places, just kinda skipped around. there are a LOT of super fancy restaurants in spain, but i didn't go to any of them. i love the grazing aspect of spanish eating -- just kind of grab what you want, eat it, drink a little, go somewhere else, have something else, sit by the water a while, la ti da, eat/drink some more, etc.

i'll tell you what, if i disappear, san sebastian would not be a bad place to look for me.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:42 (nine years ago) link

now i really want to go to san sebastien but it seems on the opposite end of the country from where i need to end up (murcia)!

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:43 (nine years ago) link

next time! i didn't make it south or west at all on my first trip; it's not a place you can cover reasonably in one short trip, i think.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:44 (nine years ago) link

btw if i disappear, please don't look for me.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:44 (nine years ago) link

this was the best tapas place we tried in barcelona. one of the best restaurants I've ever been to. cleaner and brighter than many, not too expensive. two long bars laden w/amazing jamon seafood etc. in the eixample area near ave diagonal, passeig de gracia and some cool gaudi buildings.

Cervecería Catalana
C/ MALLORCA, 235, 08013 Barcelona, Spain
+34 932 16 03 68 ‎

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demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:59 (nine years ago) link

some of the tapas places were a little greasy/heavy; not here

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demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:01 (nine years ago) link

please try to get yourself to san sebastian
that is my #1 suggestion

― La Lechera, Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YESSSSS

I wound up there sort of by accident and only for a day during a trip to France and it was amazingly lovely. I really want to go back. I have no other advice about Spain because S Sebastian is actually the only place I've ever been to there. LL otm though. If you can go there definitely try to.

ENBB, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:02 (nine years ago) link

now i really want to go to san sebastien but it seems on the opposite end of the country from where i need to end up (murcia)!

― bene_gesserit, Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:43 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh shit, only just saw that now. Bummer. I'm sure the rest of it is great too though.

ENBB, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:06 (nine years ago) link

well i can recommend cartagena as a beautiful town, heavy roman influence still v apparent, they're currently doing up the amphiteatre and the harbour area is spectacular

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:14 (nine years ago) link

i live in madrid and know galicia, castilla y leon, extremadura, and andalucia pretty well, but nothing of the basque country or catalonia. how long are you going to be in spain, bene?

craigorio, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:15 (nine years ago) link

about 9-10 days! i'm definitely spending some time in madrid, and flying in/out of there, so madrid recommendations are welcome!

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:26 (nine years ago) link

No-one repping for Lanzarote? It's great.

I don't know the eastern side of the country at all, but if you head south-then-east you can visit some superb towns - Toledo, Cordoba and Granada are all excellent, and places like Seville and Malaga would be just about within reach too. Gibraltar's really interesting and spectacular.

Stay in a ye olde parador if you can afford it. They're converted historic buildings and some of them are really amazing. Jaen (east of Granada) is a castle perched on a crag above the town.

I loved driving in Spain because it's big and empty, like a mini-America. This may be less impressive to an American, granted.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:29 (nine years ago) link

Gibraltar's really interesting and spectacular.

really? my parents have an apartment about an hour from malaga and a trip to gibraltar is always an option when i go with friends, but all i've heard about it is that it's one of the worst shitholes in the universe.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:33 (nine years ago) link

The bay and the rock and the view of Africa are incredible. Historically and politically it's pretty interesting. There are apes. No doubt it's full of tat - but I didn't really notice tbh.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:37 (nine years ago) link

God, yes, Gibraltar is awful. We hare down there, pick up cheap fags and booze and get the hell back out. The caves and that are ok, I guess, but I wouldn't recommend going out of your way to visit it.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:42 (nine years ago) link

my tip is: avoid Gibraltar

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:56 (nine years ago) link

go to the rock, get out

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:07 (nine years ago) link

a few days in and around madrid then visiting a couple cities in andalucia (i second cordoba and granada!) before ending up in murcia sounds awesome. not sure renting a car would be much cheaper or worthwhile though. you're going to have to pay for gas and parking and will be driving around half the length of the iberian peninsula. you don't necessarily have to take the ave everywhere--if you like seeing the countryside then the avant trains are a lot cheaper and go through random towns. and there's always the bus. you could also just rent the car in granada and drive to murcia. cabo de gata natural park is between them (on the coast) and a car would be handy there.

in madrid i highly recommend you visit goya's tomb.

craigorio, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:04 (nine years ago) link

i went to goya's tomb, it was cool

mizzell, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:25 (nine years ago) link

rip

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 00:54 (nine years ago) link

thanks craigorio that is all really helpful! i'll look into costs of train/bus from madrid to granada. cabo de gata looks lovely!

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:05 (nine years ago) link

alsa will be the bus line you want. it's about 20 euros, 5 hrs across la mancha, and there will be a bus leaving pretty much every hour all day long from madrid.

craigorio, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:13 (nine years ago) link

ok, i've just worked out some of the details, and i think we are going to take the bus to granada as you recommended! is there a specific town on the coast between granada and murcia that you would recommend spending a night in? we definitely want to spend some time in cabo de gato and take are time going up the coast.

bene_gesserit, Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:39 (nine years ago) link

alright - i've fully booked all my hotels so i could use some itinerary specific advice:

days 1-3 madrid - staying at a pension in the the universidad neighborhood, i definitely want to visit the prado but otherwise i could use advice on what to see/eat!

day 4 granada - staying in the downtown area but closer to the alhambra. definitely want to visit the alhambra but not sure what else. planning on renting a car here for the rest of the trip.

days 5-6 - cheaping out everywhere else on hotels, but splurged a little and booked two nights at parador de mojacar (http://spainparador.com/parador-mojacar.htm) which was still not all that expensive (came out to ~$70 per person per night) this is close to cabo de gata but could use advice on other towns to explore in the area)

days 7-8 - murcia - we will probably be at the music fesitival (watching PULP) most of the time

day 9 - need to find a budget accommodation near the madrid airport for an early flight home

bene_gesserit, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:09 (nine years ago) link

Jely

Aerosol, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:32 (nine years ago) link

I'm considering going for a week in March. I was going to do Madrid and Barcelona, but my friend is trying to convince me to concentrate on one city, and not try to do too much. Thoughts? I am leaning toward Madrid. Also, is it an okay place to travel alone in?

Virginia Plain, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:42 (nine years ago) link

you should come in march instead and hang out with me!

bene_gesserit, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:26 (nine years ago) link

i mean may

bene_gesserit, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:26 (nine years ago) link

i"m using too many exclamation marks.

Barcelona is basically now just an almost disney-level tourist destination with a major sideline in robbery/theft/ pickpocketing/scams.

I'm sure there's an actual real Barcelona where people live and work but it's hard to find. My friends (and their boys) got their bag stolen while they were eating lunch. The bag had a macbook and all of their passports. story/short it cost them a few grand and long delays which, I dare say, they got most of back through insurance but it doesn't make it any better at the time.

Another friend had his phone stolen out of his hand WHILE I WAS TALKING TO HIM.

I don't want to put people off Barcelona, if that's your dream, but I've really heard too many bad experiences now.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:01 (two years ago) link

i was just in barcelona for 4 days and had heard the stories but never felt remotely at risk of that shit. idk, i don't think we were doing anything special but it didn't strike me as a place where you needed to be more vigilant than you do in any big city that you're not familiar with.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:11 (two years ago) link

i also wasn't on la rambla at 2 a.m. or anything so i'm sure that matters in anyone's personal calculation

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:13 (two years ago) link

I'm sure it works out well for most people. I honestly don't want to put people off - Catalonia Solidairty.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:28 (two years ago) link

I love Barcelona so much and would live there. Although it has gotten a shitload more crowded. I went to the nudist beach last year. It was kind of gross. But at least you aren't stuck with a wet bathing suit.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:34 (two years ago) link

you can fly home in the nood.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:37 (two years ago) link

it is definitely a great city, for whatever reason i was expecting more of a mediterranean glam vibe but the places i spent time in were much more grimy medieval winding road neighborhoods. despite the appreciable number of tourists it is very much itself and i came away with a lot of respect for the city and the people.

posted my adventure getting out on the first day of protests on a different thread but that wouldn't stop me from going back.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:53 (two years ago) link

People have tried to pickpocket me multiple times in Barcelona and I've seen people be pickpocketed there. Just awareness and like put your wallet in your front pocket. Most of the stories of victimhood ive heard are pretty silly tbh. Like, you're an obvious guiri, dont leave a bag or phone sitting out on a table,pay attention to your surroundings on the metro,it's not hard.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:59 (two years ago) link

oh yeah. I am always way careful at the beach about people stealing stuff. And in general. The only time I have ever gotten something stolen was when I used to work in a record store in brooklyn. Someone took my laptop that I always brought right off the counter ( I got too comfortable). Although I was standing with a friend in Lima when someone took her huge ass backpack. There were three of us (irish, swedish and american) standing there that didn't even see it happen. I even get paranoid when anyone approaches us to ask for directions or something. I step away and stare down the person to make sure they aren't attempting a diversion.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:09 (two years ago) link

dont leave a bag or phone sitting out on a table,pay attention to your surroundings on the metro,it's not hard.

but that's not holiday-times-vibe either and it's impossible to always do that. the friends i mentioned who had a bag with computer and passports stolen are seasoned travellers, not innocents.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:29 (two years ago) link

It's not easy either. you are on holiday living your life and enjoying yourself.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:33 (two years ago) link

saying you're in a notorious city for crime and therefore you should just know and it's silly if you don't is quite a privileged take. tbh.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:43 (two years ago) link

besides, the people I'm referring to aren't daft and it doesn't even matter if they were daft!

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:45 (two years ago) link

idk if it's privileged to say that you should have a general understanding of your surroundings

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:52 (two years ago) link

oh, jesus christ.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:54 (two years ago) link

privileged was a stupid word for me to use

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:58 (two years ago) link

it's not "not hard" - how's that? people are on holiday with their kids. it's pretty fucking hard.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:00 (two years ago) link

and of course, it's not hard to not have your phone stolen from your ear while you're talking to someone (me)

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:03 (two years ago) link

Sometimes when people talk about going to a tapas bar I think they are saying topless bar and I have to mull it over why they would suggest it.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:07 (two years ago) link

Taps Aff Bar.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:11 (two years ago) link

well played, Yerac :)

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:19 (two years ago) link

in buenos aires multiple locals came up to me to warn me about theft, what to do and not do, where to go and not. it was thoughtful...i guess? kept me on edge the whole time though

alomar lines, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:36 (two years ago) link

They were all probably trying to rob you.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:41 (two years ago) link

I was sitting outside a café in Paris and a guy warned me about dodgy looking character who'd just sat behind me and the guy scarpered. Not that he'd have got anything other than my £1 reading glasses.

Taps Aff Bar.

Excellent LOLz there which only people from the West of Scotland would understand.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:48 (two years ago) link

... Paris, last month, that is.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:49 (two years ago) link

Barcelona is basically now just an almost disney-level tourist destination with a major sideline in robbery/theft/ pickpocketing/scams.

i know you qualified it but come on.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:14 (two years ago) link

I haven't been to Andalucia in 20 years but I'm planning a trip there this spring, thinking Sevilla->Granada->Córdoba. a one week trip. I've been to the first two, Sevilla in fact several times, but never Córdoba. I've been to Morocco too and think the architecture in the south of Spain is yet more beautiful (I think the Moors valued it more than Morocco even). I remember being a bit let down by the Alhambra after having spent all day in the Alcázar of Sevilla, but tbh I was "backpacking through Europe" at the time & was getting burnt out.

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:29 (two years ago) link

Just more personal opinion to add to the pile, but I've not had any problems in Barcelona the couple of times I've visited, and didn't feel it anything like as sketchy as is often portrayed. I'd be as cautious with my valuables in almost any big, popular city as I would be there.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:42 (two years ago) link

Córdoba definitely worth a visit. Mezquita is incredible and one of a kind, a mysterious mashup of mosque and cathedral. Alcazar gardens are beautiful, though Alcazar itself a little underwhelming. The old whitewashed section of the city is wonderful to walk through with interesting moorish and Jewish sites. Modern city has a bit of grit but is a real place not a tourist trap. Good tapas, drink Montilla Moriles sherry. Fried shrimp, ajoblanco.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:02 (two years ago) link

Seville and Cádiz are both fantastic. worth visiting Vejer and the beach and roman ruins at Tarifa if you get down to Cádiz.

Never had a problem in Barcelona though it’s undoubtedly busier than it used to be.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:09 (two years ago) link

tbh I dont think i've been to Barcelona in the August/July in over 10 years and i'm sure it can be a lot more crazy those times.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:12 (two years ago) link

I’ve been to barcelona 5+ times and only lost my passport to pickpockets once so make of that what you will

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:13 (two years ago) link

I was there in July last year. I hadn't been in several years (maybe 5-6?). Some parts were definitely throbbing, like the beach and around Las Ramblas. But most other parts were totally normal.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:14 (two years ago) link

I've only been to Barcelona once, and had a fine time, but I find the focus it gets from tourists annoying and I've spent much more time elsewhere in Spain for that reason. Probably people feel that way about Paris too though...

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:16 (two years ago) link

I like this piece about tourism and Barcelona a lot. https://roadsandkingdoms.com/2018/the-battle-for-the-boqueria/

Nobody remembers who was the first to sell smoothies at the Boqueria. Or if they do remember, nobody seems eager to take credit for it.

The idea, undoubtedly, came from a very simple realization: Tourists don’t buy vegetables. They don’t buy fish or pork chops, snails or mushrooms. They sure as shit don’t buy monkfish or mollusks, chicken or chickpeas or chicory. They need something they can hold in their hands, consume in the moment before they move on to the Sagrada Familia or the sands of Barceloneta. Sure, savvy travelers know that a market is the perfect place to build a picnic of local products, and an ideal spot to find gifts for friends and family, but most visitors aren’t thinking beyond their next bite. For them, smoothies gave them a simple way to connect to the Boqueria.

Today, much of the Boqueria runs on liquefied fruit—an ever-growing army of plastic cups that paint the market a psychedelic swirl of orange and green, pink and purple. At Sprimfruit, near the market’s main entrance, they sell so many smoothies that they run them through giant plastic tubes like some marginally-healthier version of the Wonka factory. Some have bet the entire farm on pulverized produce; others have tried to keep selling fresh apples and bananas and strawberries alongside their fluid counterparts, but with diminishing returns. I’ve watched over the years as the fruit itself is subsumed by its byproduct.

More than replace much of the market’s supply of fresh fruit, the smoothies set off a chain reaction across the market. Vendors, already suffering from a lack of local clientele, looked for ways to transform their raw staples into processed profit. At first it happened in small doses: charcuterie stands sold skewers of jamón and chorizo, a few fish stalls offered oysters ready to be shucked and slurped. But the economics are such now that if you don’t have something to offer the tourist, your days in the Boqueria are probably numbered.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:19 (two years ago) link

Fizzles OTM - Cadiz definitely worth a visit, Seville is one of my favourite places in the world.

Visits to Andalucía were always a total delight but have become even more pleasurable since I developed a taste for sherry.

Tim, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:23 (two years ago) link

My wife's family are Catalans that have been in the city for generations so i have a pretty deep appreciation for the town and territory. They are very understanding of the importance of tourism and even though they live in the center of the city it's not too hard to avoid the more insane places .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:27 (two years ago) link

sorry for being bolshy about Barcelona etc. I dunno what's going on with me. Barcelona is a nice place to visit. Put that on TripAdvisor.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:09 (two years ago) link

sorry if i came across wide yesterday, jed

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:10 (two years ago) link

No problem Jim! I do know what's wrong with me, tbh, in spite of what I just said. It's alcoholism...

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:30 (two years ago) link

happens to the best of us!

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:31 (two years ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:34 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

alhambra is good

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:30 (one year ago) link

YASSSS

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:53 (one year ago) link

All I can say is that we spent one night in Merida on our way back from Portugal and it was a total delight. Merida has it all: A Roman aqueduct and stone walking bridge, multiple archeological sites, a Roman amphitheater, a coliseum, army barracks, a pre-Roman fort with an unforgettable subterranean well, and a fancy hotel that's a converted Moorish palace, with a rooftop pool right on the utterly charming main square. Where you can sit at your choice of cafes and watch the storks perched on the peaks of the town hall and the cathedral, nests silhouetted against the sky.

The hotel had a small fenced courtyard off the plaza, so I took my wine and my book and read late into the night. It probably doesn't need more than 2 days to see the sights but I could have stayed at that hotel forever.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:39 (one year ago) link

don’t half ply you with food in granada

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:44 (one year ago) link

had a nice conversation with a taxi driver in french today tho so that was a highlight 👍🏻

||||||||, Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:33 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Ronda is killing me, my god. Hard to get your head around the fact that it actually really exists.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:58 (one week ago) link

You should get a load of Setenil de las Bodegas!

chap, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:09 (one week ago) link

Wowee! It's only 15 minutes away by bus...

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 14 October 2021 10:23 (one week ago) link


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