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Err I guess John Stroger's estate can't pay his storage space bill.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

the city of chicago, brought to you by ________________

Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

That article was light on actual information. Great reporting suntimes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

Couple paragraphs of editorializing at the end, too.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not opposed to the idea of privatization if it works and doesn't end up ruining everything.

Big if.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder why Waguespack opposed.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

From his website, he seems to have concerns about oversight and "key shortcomings." I'm inferring based on a post from Monday. He hasn't posted a response yet.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

So vague.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

I am v against privatization.

the city of chicago, brought to you by ________________

― Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:44 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Welcome to Doritosburgh.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

This trust thing seems ridiculous and awful, but the details are so vague that I can't really be sure.

deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

that is exactly why i don't trust privatization ^^
details shadowy and vague, likely to remain so

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

That's also how our city government works. And they are corrupt, largely disinterested in impact on citizens, and they can't get anything done while infrastructure crumbles around us.

I don love privatization as a solution, but I don't think it's going to be any worse.

The lack of detail bugs me the most, but that's coming from our existing government.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

At least there are rules in place (even if they're not applied) for oversight of govt abuse of power -- not so with these trusts, private companies.

Also please know that I am still slogging through that Blackwater book, so I'm comfortably seated in paranoid nutjob territory when it comes to privatization of public services.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

I can't deny that it's troubling. I am coming from the "I have seen the inner workings of government and it's worse than you think" perspective.

A better government is obv the best solution but I don't even know how to make that happen.

And I'll admit that I will happily ride The Dorito's Cool Ranch Elevation Train if Doritos pays to make stations accessible to people with disabilities. (So they'd have to do better than Apple, those shitbirds.)

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

North & Apple Redline isn't accessible?? Is there not an elevator?

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

What if the Doritos train donates a portion of their hefty corporate profits to a super far right organization that you totally disagree with (for instance, one that limits reproductive rights), but you have no choice but to ride the Doritos train to go to work, so you are in effect contributing to the far right organization against your will?

This shit keeps me up at night! AGH

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Also privatizing infrastructure funding is maybe not as problematic/murder-encouraging as privatizing police and law enforcement and military a la Blackwater.

xp NOPE. It's got half an escalator and then steps. You can't get to the surface without taking some steps. Basically Apple shined up the outside and left the rest as a filthy, inaccessible shitheap.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

True, but man do I dislike privatization.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

What if the Doritos train donates a portion of their hefty corporate profits to a super far right organization that you totally disagree with (for instance, one that limits reproductive rights), but you have no choice but to ride the Doritos train to go to work, so you are in effect contributing to the far right organization against your will?

This shit keeps me up at night! AGH

What if the government where I live passes laws that limit reproductive rights and I have no choice but to pay taxes and support their transit program?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Again I am not pro privatization. I'm mostly saying this is maybe not the worst thing. But kind of pointlessly since there are like no details of the whole plan. Maybe they are selling the CPD to Blackwater, in which case I would agree w/ you completely.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

What if the Doritos train donates a portion of their hefty corporate profits to a super far right organization that you totally disagree with (for instance, one that limits reproductive rights), but you have no choice but to ride the Doritos train to go to work, so you are in effect contributing to the far right organization against your will?

I assume most of the companies I buy stuff from do this anyway. Eh, what can you do? Hopefully everything will cancel out and we'll all be deleted.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

I don't wanna be deleted
I don't wanna be deleted
I don't wanna be deleted
I don't wanna be deleted

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

is that a fugazi ref?

deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

strange, cuz I listened to that album last week for the first time in a bunch of years. still awesome, obv.

deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

If they privatize the El I will bike instead and that's no bull.

Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

The private institutions that should be funding things like public transit are the companies who profit immensely by having workers that can travel to their offices downtown or elsewhere (relatively) quickly and safely on a publicly available system. They should fund that system by paying their fucking taxes instead of getting into bed with Rahm et al and putting more ads up with no other foreseeable improvements.

Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

Or drive.

xp

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

okay that's old news now because look

http://chicago.eater.com/archives/2012/04/23/lakeview-starbucks-to-serve-wine-and-beer.php

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

Privatized infrastructure
Starbucks serving wine and beer
Cats and dogs living together

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

I am actually very excited about starbucks serving booze and I will frequent once they open. Chicago lacks cafes where I can get drunk and this always bother me, but I guess it takes someone with the $$$ of starbucks to get all the licenses and stuff.

deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

It is pretty nice to have a place to stay a while and work or just hang out with a glass of wine that isn't a bar.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

I doubt I will partake in starbucks beer. That starbucks is always stupid crowded anyway and the seats smell funny.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Why are you sniffing the seats?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

It envelopes. It overwhelms.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

ok i can laugh about this now but blackwater is terrible
also this made me lol Chicago lacks cafes where I can get drunk and this always bother me

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

actual lol @ carl's pic

Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

so i guess a bunch of nobel laureates are in town for some big summit, and some of them are staying in the hotel that makes up the lower floors of our building. my boss got turned away from one of the building's exits because there was security stuff going on, and she turned around, and the dalai lama ran by with a procession of monks behind him.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Haha wow.

Gorbachev is here too, I heard. They're at UIC.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

whoa that's bananas!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I doubt I would recognize a Dali lama.

Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

yeah CPR has been covering the summit a bit, Jimmy Carter is here too

Silky Slim (dan m), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

I love Jimmy Carter.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

I also love the name Jimmy. And the verb jimmy. Jimmy.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

I had to explain to my students what it meant to "jimmy a lock." I also used the term "DIY" and they didn't know what that meant either. This is not to suggest that my students are dumb. Just that it's good to be reminded that not everybody knows what I know.

I also love Jimmy Carter.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

This one goes out to La Lechera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zqlCP_Qu2M

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Also Polly Vaughn
http://www.contemplator.com/scotland/pollyv.html

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link


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