2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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(Rejected thread titles): Is that a Santorum surge in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

clemenza, Monday, 2 January 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

my krazy theory is the paul dudes are gonna coordinate their game so heavily that they win Iowa. then they're gonna be really super-pissed when it doesn't work in New Hampshire etc.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 January 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

^^ imo, Paul's got a good shot at a top two finish in Iowa, because of how caucuses fit well with his campaign. If Santorum makes the top three it will make me giddy. Plz, god, give us Santorum, RuPaul and Newt, in that order.

Aimless, Monday, 2 January 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I voted paul, I wouldn't put money on it or anything but paul or santorum seems slightly more likely than romney

iatee, Monday, 2 January 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I voted paul, I wouldn't put money on it or anything but paul or santorum seems slightly more likely than romney

iatee, Monday, 2 January 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Paul, but with Santorum a close second or gnawing Paul's head like Ugolino in the Inferno.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

I think this a good explanation of why the easy explanation for what appears to be inevitable at his point is not necessarily the right explanation.

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98942/kilgore-iowa

clemenza, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

I love this!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/01/the_iowa_horse_race_an_animation_of_the_republican_caucuses_as_a_horse_race_.html

(I just wish they'd stuck four or five women at the bottom of the screen, and had Herman's horse suddenly veer off the track in their direction.)

clemenza, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha

k3vin k., Monday, 2 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

I just think they all should be locked in a cage and let them fight it out thunderdome style. I personally might bet on Bachmann if they went that way.

earlnash, Monday, 2 January 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

U.S.A., your long national nightmare is about to be over--let the healing begin! I'm putting out an APB for Daniel, Esq. I don't think I can suffer the slings and arrows of other ILX'ers alone as I...giddily take an interest in this.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

I just really really need Paul to win tonight, pray the universe doent take this from me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone compared him to tim tebow yet?

iatee, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

its a quality concept

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know, but my limited knowledge of football notwithstanding, Rick Perry's right out of North Dallas Forty.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

on the one hand, quelle surpise

on the other hand, this dude really does not want to actually be President, huh

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

all signs point to him being an extremely clueless guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

I don't care for his sweater look AT ALL.

http://media.salon.com/2011/12/santy3-460x307.jpg

dude looks like Prince Charles

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

hah he does

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

kinda lol, mostly sad <--- Santorum 2012 campaign slogan

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

it's weird, like he was clearly the last kid picked on the team for this game, but that just happened to be well timed w/ the iowa caucus

iatee, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Really need Mittens to wrap this up quickly so that 10 months of two near-identical corporatists "debating" completely delegitimizes the Republicrat oligarchy.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

I thought we tried that approach in 2000 and 2004.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

newts abt to let bad newt out, you know its been killing him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

HAY HAY NOW MORBS dont try to take this from us

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

also lol @ yr whole theory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

only have to get another 5% to notice to fuck some shit up

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

lagoon better not be dexneb

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

fuck shit up, noble goal, v inspiring, brimming w/insight

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I think today should be about positivity. Mitt, and Rick, and most of all the people of Iowa would want it that way. (Newt gets a pass.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

please for my sanity, stop using variants of the "dex" appellation to refer to gabbneb

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

"nobility, inspiration, insight" is what the War Criminal in Chief is for.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

David Atkins on detestable Ron Paul; refutes Glenn Greenwald, Matt Stoller.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

what dones dex refer to?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

the sandbox name used by the DNC apologist

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

it's been kinda funny to see all these people who have liked the tip of paul's minarchism finally take a look at the rest of the black-helicopter iceberg

xp uh also a name used by DJP in the mists of time

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ this

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

ppl need to separate issues from individuals, esp when the individuals under discussion will never be elected

ie, Politicians Are Lower Than Whaleshit, All of Them

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

God Santorum is like the absolute nadir of that unique ignorance that poses as wisdom:

"I was at a debate with Howard Dean and we were asked what was the most imp quality of America and he said diversity. Diversity? Have you ever heard of e pluribus unum?....The greatness of America is people who are diverse coming together to be one," Santorum said. "If we celebrate diversity, we lay the groundwork for that conflict. We need to celebrate common values and have a president that lays out those common values."

dude Rick. the "e pluribus" part: that's a celebration of diversity. It's not "e pluribus, and fuck the pluribus now that we're unum, unum." the whole fucking point of the motto is that diversity means strength. you dumb cocksucker, you.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I think you meant "you dumb anal froth, you"

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

newts abt to let bad newt out, you know its been killing him

lol

"Newt to Iowa: 'You Stupid Motherfuckers, I'm Clearly Your Best Choice'"

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

god that Atkins post is mostly idiotic

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

the initial matt stoller post is worth reading but it does have some problems

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/12/matt-stoller-why-ron-paul-challenges-liberals.html

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

But this obscures the real question, of why Paul disdains the Fed (and implicitly, why liberals do not), and the relationship between the Federal Reserve and American empire. If you go back and look at some of libertarian allies, like Fox News’s Judge Napolitano, they will answer that question for you. Napolitano hates, absolutely hates, Abraham Lincoln. He sometimes slyly refers to Lincoln as America’s first dictator. Libertarians also detest Woodrow Wilson, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

What connects all three of these Presidents is one thing – big ass wars, and specifically, war financing. If you think today’s deficits are bad, well, Abraham Lincoln financed the Civil War pretty much entirely by money printing and debt creation, taking America off the gold standard.

yeah, boo fuckin hoo

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Politicians Are Lower Than Whaleshit, All of Them

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 3, 2012 11:27 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol you are exactly the average american voter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

god that Atkins post is mostly idiotic

I disagree – he's mostly correct about liberalism.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

so who is lagoon? seems 'worthy' of being pundneb

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Let's move the gravestomping to the Breitbart thread.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

^^eyebrow flash^^

Fonz Hour (Eazy), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

[flashingdrudgesiren.gif] we shared a love of headlines [/flashingdrudgesiren.gif]

Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Breitbart doesn't even deserve his own RIP thread. such a horrible person.

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

This is off-topic but since this is the US politics thread I thought it was somewhat relevant. While currently the focus is on 'social' issues, the claim that rhetoric is at an all-time low doesn't quite stand up in historical context.

The post-Revolutionary War debt argument led by George Hamilton in the late 1780s was unpopular among southern states, and nearly caused Virginia to secede from the union. Unfair taxes was the big issue, and Senator George Mason of Virginia declared that Hamilton had,

done us more injury than Great Britain & all her fleets and armies."

Really brings to mind the economic terrorism/economic slavery rhetoric of the past few years.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, that quote's from p. 51 of "The Federalist Era 1789-1801" by John C. Miller.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

rhetoric is always at an all time low what you have now is a realignment of the parties along ideological lines and an increased willingness to use procedural tactics to gum up the legislative process

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh Lol. I watched The Roast of David Hasslehoff last night, got George on my mind.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

done us more injury than Great Britain & all her fleets and armies."

tbf, there are many ilx threads where i've thought this, even after l0u1s jagg3r left.

pplains, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

today's Romney gaffe

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

hes improving on his flip flop turn around time, working really hard, impressive stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

it is really, really hard to imagine this guy winning an election

iatee, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR. SHALL WE PLAY A GAME? _

YES _

VERY WELL _

WAIT, I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QU--------

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

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Mitt Romney is the one non-handicapped guy competing in the Special Olympics, and he’s just barely winning.

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for reminding me to ignore everything Seth MacFarlane says

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

Santorum and his never ending lulz

“[Karen] worked as a nurse, but after we got married, she decided to walk away, yet didn’t quit working. She was a mother, and also wrote two books,” Santorum said, in what also seemed to be an appeal to female voters.

He spent most of his speech repeating the themes he does on the stump, including his mention of the Declaration of Independence, but this evening there was a twist on that, too.

“The men and women who signed that declaration wrote the final phrase, ‘We pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor,” Santorum said.

There were no women who signed the Declaration of Independence.

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

LOL

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

One thing that happens when you are a presidential candidate is that words become increasingly meaningless and all that you retain is the correct manner of their delivery. This is probably a simple case of flatlined brain waves cooupled with an open mouth. What matters more is when he says what he means and it makes your jaw drop..

Aimless, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

*Nelson laugh*

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/santorum-loses-his-cool-during-interview-with-cinc

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

frank shaeffer quote in that last kingfish quote is amazing, bookmarked the page it came from

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

His memoir is pretty remarkable & I recommend it highly: Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back

Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Casey from last season's American Idol:

http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/CaseyAbrams4.jpg

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

here's a more recent book of Schaeffer's that I really need to read, assuming it doesn't depress me too much:

Sex, Mom, and God: How the Bible's Strange Take on Sex Led to Crazy Politics--and How I Learned to Love Women (and Jesus) Anyway

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

Another good piece about Santorum & the religious right's fixation on education:

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/feb/29/rick-santorum-arrested-development/

o. nate, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

we're at 4.6K posts on this this thread, time for a new one yet?

can we call it: "2012 republican presidential nominee IV: literally pissing on breetbort's grave"?

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 2 March 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link

ehh I am not for that

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

but feel free to make it w/ another title

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

"literally shitting on breetbort's grave"?

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 2 March 2012 06:56 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like making fun of dead people because it reminds me of my own mortality

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:58 (twelve years ago) link

literally contemplating iatees inevitable grave

lag∞n, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

haha

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link

^ a nervous laugh if ever i've heard one

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago) link

NEEDS MORE BOOING

pplains, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

2012 Republican Presidential Nominee III: The Owls Are Not What They Seem (But the Trees Are Just the Right Height)

clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

i am in favor of NEEDS MORE BOOING

goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

agree

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0sai4UHkx1qb9ngzo1_400.jpg

Bob is not happy, but fire up "Needs More Booing."

clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

i miss your tweets onscreen

max, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

I was pumping gas last night and a guy at an adjacent pump asked me "so who ya voting for? newt?" I was kind of dumbstruck as to why anyone would ask a complete stranger who they're voting for in the GOP primaries.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

this guy might have been Newt in a wig fwiw

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

"He's the only 'Newt Gingrich' on the ballot!"

pplains, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

Kid Rock, the Megadeth guy, Mitt's visceral appeal to the rock world deepens. (Contra Josh Marshall, my guess is that the net harm/good fallout from the controversial Nugent endorsement will be minimal.) Still pending: Wishbone Ash.

clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

there we go

iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link


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