Occupy Wall Street 3: Now What?

on the internet, it's not something you say irl

my morning jacket activists

haha

holy fuck this theme music

its like an snl bit with ana gasteyer or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9R_DknSSYY&feature=relmfu

excited for all my friends going to NATO. i'd almost found a way--"free" bus--but i would've been otherwise relying on the kindness of strangers for food etc--payday, unfortunately, is ~next~ friday.

feels like its gonna be something i'll wish i was at later

kindness of CHILXors brah, IPAs all around.

I'd buy a hoos dinner.

that theme music is sort of amazing in like a sub-cardew sort of way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnauDrzdOiQ

The thoughts are v much appreciated guys, I know I coulda made it work if I'd planned right.

@occupykst successfully now owned and operated by me and 3 badass women w/serious online organizing skills, humbled to share the userID with them.

recent SFBG article on Occupy SFer recently arrested during that building eviction for throwing a rock at a cop is one of the saddest things I've read in years - basically crazy homeless vet w/drug problems and poor (if any) grasp of politics. can't find it online for some reason.

Been doing a lot of thinking lately about whether ''mere" (politically incoherent) anger is useless or not, whether one needs to have a technocrat's understanding of policy to validate the frustrated throwing of a rock. there's a strain of thought I've been encountering lately that suggests that the above is an "elitist" way of thinking, that requiring elaborate theoretical analyses from the angry for their rage is classist, that "~any riot is a good riot~." I don't buy it, but I can't put my finger on why.

This isn't directed at u btw shakey you just touched on stuff thats bouncing in my head.

no worries that had occurred to me too but this guy's story is just so disheartening - really his arrest is just one in a long litany of run-ins with the law, multiple stints in prison, etc. The guy is schizophrenic (hears voices, the whole bit), had a meth problem, blacks out and gets violent, in and out of institutions his whole life. That he got wrapped up in Occupy is just some marriage of convenience, and it's a bummer. It's not just his politics that are incoherent, it's his anger, his worldview, his whole life.

any social justice movement's goals in regards to him would be to get him help and take care of him, not to make a martyr out of him by putting him on the front lines of a protest where he will come into conflict with cops

I should really find that story arghh...

there need to be at least some people who can do elaborate theoretical analysis and attempt to explain their conclusions to people less interested in or equipped for that kind of thing; these i guess are what you call leaders (the l-word!) and occupy has plenty of them whether it admits it or not; but as far as people being "incoherently" angry, i mean, fucking good that people are angry; i hope they get angrier; and as long as they can memorize a few keywords (collateralized debt obligation!) and get it basically straight who's screwing them (which a lot of people already know anyway) i don't really mind if they haven't read all three volumes of capital. i mean i'm one of them. (if anything this seems like an elitist way of thinking, since it shruggingly accepts that not everyone is gonna be a scholar. but scholars can't revolt by themselves.)

obv different thing from this case which is just :( yeah.

(realize that "read all three volumes of capital" is an ad absurdum cartoon of the level of political engagement you're talking about, since who does that, but still.)

as far as people being "incoherently" angry, i mean, fucking good that people are angry; i hope they get angrier;

I was referring to the fact that this guy was incoherently angry to begin with - he blacks out and assaults people. He's a crazed transient. His engagement with Occupy's rhetoric goes no farther than obsessing over the oath he took to "defend the Constitution" as a member of the US Army, and the fact that the Patriot Act is bad. Also people are taking away his rights. It's like sub-Tea Party stuff.

no i know i was talking about hoos' general concerns

not being like "schizoprenia is a useful tool in the toolbox!"

lol

Guilty lolz xp

hoos i will very much buy you dinner anytime you find me in nyc.

part of the reason i'm so excited about chicago (which, if i can get a ride by tomorrow, i may still be doing?) is that it's finally creating an opportunity to more explicitly make the connections between low intensity class warfare of attrition at home and the war machine abroad

http://truth-out.org/news/item/9205-occupy-chicago-takes-on-the-war-at-home

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/05/hacked.html

y'all got me off work on monday, thx B-)

np

yo if i wind up going tomorrow like i'm tryin to trust all of the internet will hear about it

i'm a nerd but this gave me goosebumps

https://twitter.com/#!/kgosztola/status/203273043802464256

Police Preemptively Raid Apartment & Arrest Activists Ahead of NATO Summit

…Police broke down a door to access a 6-unit apartment building near 32nd & Morgan Streets without a search warrant. Police entered an apartment with guns drawn and tackled one of the tenants to the floor in his kitchen. Two tenants were handcuffed for more than 2 hours in their living room while police searched their apartment and a neighboring unit, repeatedly calling one of the tenants a “Commie faggot.”

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/05/17/police-preemptively-raid-apartment-arrest-activists-ahead-of-nato-summit/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

(if anything this seems like an elitist way of thinking, since it shruggingly accepts that not everyone is gonna be a scholar. but scholars can't revolt by themselves.)

I think this is correct.

this is kind of interesting

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/occupydclive/2012/05/18/voices-of-the-99-like-it-is-w-robert-stephens

my boy is hosting his radio show trying to talk about big picture organizing and strategy stuff, and this dude from oakland calls in and talks about the cops for 10 minutes.

https://www.wepay.com/donations/the-clown-bloq

love this v much

found the article

this is kind of interesting

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/occupydclive/2012/05/18/voices-of-the-99-like-it-is-w-robert-stephens

my boy is hosting his radio show trying to talk about big picture organizing and strategy stuff, and this dude from oakland calls in and talks about the cops for 10 minutes.
--BIG HOOS aka the steendriver

Btw wanna be clear that this is "interesting" just in the sense that it reveals how focuses in certain areas tend to perpetuate themselves.

rally in the loop:

https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyChicago/status/203556607337050113

didn't get the ride i was hoping for, but i'll be goin ham on my full-situational-awareness twitter game all weekend so plz feel free to follow along @hoosteen

http://i.imgur.com/sk57C.jpg

also talking nato all night tonight on the radio show w/interview w/folks on the ground

vof99.org at 9 eastern time

Hearing reports of a police van driving through a crowd of protesters, injuring at least one person.

i looked at that website hoos but don't you realize we're going to need those predator drones for the war on drugs?

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xp obv

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btw free the microbrew 3

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553480_313094695435821_178047252273900_699863_1899724431_n.jpg

still trying to sift wheat from chaff on the nato3

separate wheat from chaff

whatever

i don't know what the fuck you do with wheat and chaff

a car full of livestreamers got pulled over and ordered out of vehicle, guns drawn

tim p is crying in panic on his livestream, he's convinced if they go back to their crash pad to get their things they'll be arrested

"we learned a little while ago that our apartment was raided while we were doing coverage of actions, and on our way back there we were surrounded by police cars, cpd emerged guns drawn and ordered us out of the vehicle"

tim trying to figure out if its safe to go home or if they'll all be arrested with, say, empty bottles in the house as evidence.

http://www.ustream.tv/timcast

on livestream (which was running at the time) cpd heard saying "we found them" as they approach vehicle. streamer asks "why are we being stopped," cop answers "you'll find out."