~~ Erotic Thrillers of the 80s and 90s ~~

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"The erotic thriller is a film and literary sub-genre which consists of a mixture between erotica and thriller. The genre increased in North American popularity from the mid-1980s through the early 1990s, before declining in marketability."

So, have at it. Which of these did you find to be the most erotically trilling?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Dressed to Kill (1980) 10
Bound (1996) 7
Basic Instinct (1992) 6
Wild Things (1998) 5
Eyes Wide Shut (1999) 4
Body Heat (1981) 4
Single White Female (1992) 2
Sea of Love (1989) 2
Poison Ivy (1992) 2
Color of Night (1994) 2
Cat People (1982) 1
Fatal Attraction (1987) 1
Body Double (1984) 1
Boxing Helena (1993) 0
Body of Evidence (1993) 0
Sliver (1993) 0
The Last Seduction (1994) 0
Jade (1995) 0
Blown Away (1992) 0
Tightrope (1984) 0
The Crush (1993) 0


Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

no emmanuelle, no credibility

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING erotic about "Boxing Helena"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

I am seriously sitting here like this O_O at the idea of someone finding that movie sexy

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

man i love me some single white female. that's a great movie.

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

I love Jade, but any movie starring Caruso should be disqualified from being "erotically thrilling".

bouquet beatdown (Nicole), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

"Basic Instinct" shouldn't work at all, but it does

"Sliver" shouldn't work at all... and it doesn't. It does have Lords of Acid on the soundtrack, tho

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

fatal attraction was pretty unerotic too.

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - You say that like it's a good thing.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

I have a theory:

You can have an erotic movie starring Michael Douglas, and you can have an erotic movie starring Glenn Close, but you cannot have an erotic movie starring both Michael Douglas and Glenn Close

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

9/5 Weeks was a thriller?

nostormo, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

BOUND

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Listen people I didn't make the list I'm just going by what wiki cites as the definitive examples of the decades, OK? *hmpf*

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Can't remember much of a thriller element in Eyes Wide Shut?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

BOUND

LEBSIANES

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Memorable quotes for
Body of Evidence (1993)

Rebecca Carlson: All we did was make love.
Frank Dulaney: In handcuffs.
Rebecca Carlson: It was different, but it was still making love. Have you ever seen animals make love, Frank? It's intense. It's violent. But they never really hurt each other.
Frank Dulaney: We're not animals.
Rebecca Carlson: Yes, we are.

buzza, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

Here's all I remember about Eyes Wide Shut: It really sucked.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

You say that like it's a good thing.

Any movie that incorporates this song into a "sexy" scene gets humor points from me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23DI4WdXXA

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING erotic about "Boxing Helena"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shirtless Bill Paxton + leather pants + mullet + Sadeness = EROTIC

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

BOUND

LEBSIANES

― enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, November 7, 2011 4:53 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark

Bound was hot. I remember watching that and being like O_O omg what did I just see ON TV?!!

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

also where is "Angel Heart"?

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Of the seven films I've seen on the list, the best is easily Eyes Wide Shut, which is not a thriller. (even if that's how WB tried to sell it, cuz "Tom Cruise thinks/dreams about extramarital fucking, doesn't do it" isn't much of a box-office hook.)

The Last Seduction and Wild Things are fairly old-fashioned noirs with nudity etc.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

also I assume the Blown Away on this list is the softcore porn featuring that chick from Baywatch and the two Coreys yes?

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised not to see any David Lynch films in this list.

Moodles, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Basic Instinct when Michael Douglas tries to blend in at the danceclub = roffles (and NSFW, I seem to remember, so I'll just link the scene here.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Wild Things" is nonstop bananas moment after bananas moment

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

xx-post - Nicole Eggert. Yes, I think that's a safe assumption.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Wild Things is easily the best actual film on here, the rest are pretty much just cheap lolz but oh the many lolz to be had...

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Color of Night (1994), this film is astonishing

|III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

the last seduction was one of those movies that was a big deal at the time but no one talks about it anymore. sorta like hal hartley.

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Emmanuelle is 70s; I know there were 80s sequels, but not much of a thriller element in those.

Probably go for Single White Female, just because running a double film w/Schroeder's classic Maitresse would be fkn good.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

double bill

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - COlor of Night = Full frontal Willis!

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

cuz yeah most of these movies are neither thrilling nor erotic

xp

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

I confused

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0103843/

With

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0109303/

Franz Kappa (S-), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Full frontal Willis!

eh he does this all the time

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

He does?

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Defend the Indefensible: psychologically raw films about sexual obsession

:)

goole, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

he's very proud of Li'l Bruce afaict

xp

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Had to double check Jade is on here so laughter does reign supreme. (Again an NSFW clip.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Emmanuelle is 70s; I know there were 80s sequels, but not much of a thriller element in those.

yeah, i was thinking of the '80s/'90s spinoffs.

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

other films Bruce Willis gets naked in:

12 Monkeys
shows his ass in 5th Element iirc

xp

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Body double one of my fav movies, btw lol 'erotically trilling', gangster

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 November 2011 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

"Erotic thrillers" of the 1940s would be a much better poll.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Poison Ivy yet. I've seen that movie so many times. Darlene! Drew and Skeritt on top of a car in a scene that left me traumatized for years!

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

thx for reminding me - I need to see that

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow, you really do

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

> 9/5 Weeks was a thriller?

no, but still maybe my fave plotless movie

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

totally surprised Wild Orchid isn't on here...?

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Body Double is 100% bravura ridiculousness but Craig Wasson is pretty terrible.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 7 November 2011 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

That’s canonical longworth

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:12 (nine months ago) link

My theory is she over-pronounces to compensate for natural under-pronunciation

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:13 (nine months ago) link

I don’t know what her pronunciation deal is, but I know there’s no excuse for it. You can’t mispronounce “Lovelace” 100x and expect us to take you seriously

Josefa, Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:30 (nine months ago) link

Perhaps this podcast is not for you

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:33 (nine months ago) link

That said, focusing on 10 is interesting, and something I wouldn’t have thought of, but it might make some kind of sense. I do remember when that film came out. It’s erotic but in no way a thriller. Yet it may have paved the way for the genre.

Josefa, Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:36 (nine months ago) link

The delivery is … pretty unerotic, fwiw.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 April 2022 18:05 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Karina Longworth treats Jagged Edge as a kind of forgotbuster, which actually makes sense--I'm old enough to remember my parents going to see it (I would catch it on cable some years later) and the still-hilarious controversy over the ending*, but from my Letterboxd feed, it looks like the film is now unknown to most people who were not alive and/or paying attention to film in 1985. The film's status rather perfectly reflects its quality, I think: a solid, enjoyable thriller (albeit one with a sloppy conclusion) that needed the hand of a Brian De Palma or even an Adrian Lyne to distinguish it, but instead got the guy who did Return of the Jedi. Oh, and Robert Loggia somehow got a Best Supporting Actor nomination out of the whole thing.

*on that ending, fast forward to the last segment of this (SPOILER-y!) Siskel & Ebert episode if you don't know but care about what I'm talking about: https://siskelebert.org/?p=3635

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:32 (eight months ago) link

This was big news in my household, if only because my older sister and mum were majorly crushing on Jeff Bridges at the time

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:39 (eight months ago) link

Bridges is definitely at his hottest in Jagged Edge.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:39 (eight months ago) link

This plus Fatal Attraction/Someone to Watch Over Me/Cape Fear all seem to merge into a single blob in my head even though they’re very different films

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:41 (eight months ago) link

I remember my folks seeing Jagged Edge and catching the end with my mom once when it hit cable the following year, and it was legit huge indeed. But when Karina teased Glenn C would be featured in discussions of two movies in the series, I went "Well Fatal Attraction...wait, what's the other one?" and absolutely had no idea it would be Jagged Edge until the episode hit, and hadn't thought about it in DECADES, though the poster immediately came to mind after the mention. Truly a memory hole of a movie. (Marquand, said ROTJ director, really had a weird career in retrospect -- he followed up said Star Wars entry having gotten the job with Eye of the Needle with a romantic melodrama with Karen Allen, Until September, then Jagged Edge, then Dylan's Hearts of Fire! Then the poor bastard dies of a stroke.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:44 (eight months ago) link

Poor guy!

Maybe it was different in a pan and scan vhs version but I don’t recall the last shot being very confusing?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:53 (eight months ago) link

Bridges is definitely at his hottest in Jagged Edge.

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko),

And how!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:56 (eight months ago) link

My unofficial theory about the demise of the erotic thriller: Joe Eszterhas killed them.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:56 (eight months ago) link

For those who haven't heard the Longworth podcast, Eszterhas's current political (and religious) allegiances are pretty much what you'd expect.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 26 May 2022 15:00 (eight months ago) link

*on that ending, fast forward to the last segment of this (SPOILER-y!) Siskel & Ebert episode if you don't know but care about what I'm talking about: https://siskelebert.org/?p=3635

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, May 26, 2022 7:32 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

off topic but: oh man, i've been watching old siskel & ebert episodes all week so thank you for this resource

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:01 (eight months ago) link

(they loved to spoil the best parts of movies and the show comes off like on cinema... more often than i even expected)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:02 (eight months ago) link

lol i watched jean claude van damme vehicle nowhere to run a couple of weeks ago -- not an erotic thriller unless you count JCvD perving on at rosanna arquette's butt thru a window bcz but it does have an eszterhas script (which is just pitiful garbage)

mark s, Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:44 (eight months ago) link

I’m pretty sure that NTR had a soft-cory sex scene as well, which makes perfect sense given Eszterhas

Mule, Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:55 (eight months ago) link

ill have to quiz my co-watchers, it was empirically unmemorable

mark s, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:11 (eight months ago) link

It’s the only thing I remember!

Mule, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:20 (eight months ago) link

oh man, i've been watching old siskel & ebert episodes all week so thank you for this resource

― flamenco drop (BradNelson),

Same! They keep popping up on YouTube.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:24 (eight months ago) link

I get the podcast is shifting talk on these films and category but c'mon Jagged Edge in no way fits

H in Addis, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:11 (eight months ago) link

as an erotic thriller? Why not? Wouldn't you kill for Jeff Bridges?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:17 (eight months ago) link

Wouldn't we all

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:20 (eight months ago) link

THE HAIR

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:23 (eight months ago) link

Longworth is trying to forge a thematic link to AIDS, which kind of works in the case of Jagged Edge, but might have been better served by a different film. 1985 alone had A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2: Freddy's Revenge, which would at least have allowed for a discussion of the kind of explicit(ish)ly queer text that Longworth claims that the 80s otherwise avoided.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:27 (eight months ago) link

The Erotic Adventures of Freddy

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:35 (eight months ago) link

Red Blood Diaries

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:38 (eight months ago) link

The 1987 episode of You Must Remember This is probably the best yet (of this season; I haven't heard previous ones). Positioning Fatal Attraction and Dirty Dancing as conservative vs liberal box-office mirrors of each other is a creative read, but it totally works; her identification of Patrick Swayze's Johnny Castle as the antidote to Reagan-era toxic masculinity (encapsulated, here, by Michael Douglas in FA) almost makes me want to take a look at the film--hell, both films--with fresh eyes.

I think I've told this story on the board before, but when I was 10 and really wanted to see FA, my mom finally agreed (I was persistent verging on harrassing when it came to movies I wanted to see) on the condition that we "talk about" the film afterwards. I agreed, thus leading to a discussion of the sex scenes ("that is not the way that people have sex") which I think may have constituted my "sex talk" with my parents. When I tell this story, people are always divided between this being my mom's genuinely earnest attempt at a 'teachable moment" or her zinging me for insisting on such inappropriate viewing material.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 19:31 (seven months ago) link

i love how Longworth often gets me to reconsider movies I thought I had made up my mind about. I dunno if i will rewatch Fatal Attraction but I am definitely thinking about it in new ways thanks to her.

I met Sherry Lansing 10 years ago at a work function & had dinner with her but knew zero about her history at the time so mostly exchanged smalltalk & pleasantries. Kicking myself tbh.

Anyway. Enjoying this season immensely.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:14 (seven months ago) link

actually more like 20 years ago re Lansing - time flies when yr old lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:18 (seven months ago) link

True story: in 1983, I was in 8th grade Unitarian Sunday school. We got to vote on what movie to go see as an end-of-year treat.

The final tally was: 9 votes for "Risky Business" and 1 vote for "Terms of Endearment."

So I first saw Rebecca de Mornay's breasts with my church youth group.

I still don't know who voted for "Terms of Endearment."

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:01 (seven months ago) link

Enjoying this season immensely.

Yup, very good. I don't really have much of a desire to reconsider histories from times I've lived through -- it mostly frustrates me thinking about idiotic things that happened within living memory, if you get my drift -- but this has been a good way to reframe many things.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:08 (seven months ago) link

The 1987 episode of You Must Remember This is probably the best yet (of this season; I haven't heard previous ones). Positioning Fatal Attraction and Dirty Dancing as conservative vs liberal box-office mirrors of each other is a creative read, but it totally works; her identification of Patrick Swayze's Johnny Castle as the antidote to Reagan-era toxic masculinity (encapsulated, here, by Michael Douglas in FA) almost makes me want to take a look at the film--hell, both films--with fresh eyes.

You really should. Dirty Dancing is sharper and more erotic than its reputation suggests -- and, of course, as men we condescend to stuff young girls like. But Jennifer Grey, in a charming performance, is sexually alert, and the film respects her sexual maturation: it's rare in an '80s picture -- any American picture! -- in which the male star consents to be the object of desire.

And, of course, Cynthia Rhodes gets an abortion and there's no -- not a one -- consequence or regret.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:21 (seven months ago) link

A couple weeks ago I finished Michael Koresky's Films of Endearment, about re-watching with his mom some of those '80s films starring the decade's essential actresses (Lange, Weaver, Pfeiffer, Cher, etc.).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:24 (seven months ago) link

True story: in 1983, I was in 8th grade Unitarian Sunday school. We got to vote on what movie to go see as an end-of-year treat.

The final tally was: 9 votes for "Risky Business" and 1 vote for "Terms of Endearment."

So I first saw Rebecca de Mornay's breasts with my church youth group.

I still don't know who voted for "Terms of Endearment."

― Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, June 8, 2022 7:01 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, I saw "Trading Places" with my church youth group.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Thursday, 9 June 2022 01:30 (seven months ago) link

xp a really great read

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:48 (seven months ago) link

My 11th grade French teacher took our class to see Betty Blue, the most serious of erotic thrillers.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:13 (seven months ago) link

lol sure

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:17 (seven months ago) link

I watched that last year, that is a p wild choice!

rob, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:23 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

This is in the neighborhood: Trapped, with Charlize Theron, Kevin Bacon, and Courtney Love. 2002, so not '90s; not remotely erotic, though it tries a couple of times; and tense for a while, not at all after that.

First hour, it's an okay diversion. The last 20 minutes, though, has to rank with the most ludicrous resolution of a thriller I've ever seen.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 January 2023 19:51 (one week ago) link

The upcoming You Must Remember This pod season is covering '90s Erotic Thrillers/Neo Noir etc.

i took a Neo Noir film class in my first year of uni, i am kinda looking forward to the new series. I loved the last one.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:39 (one week ago) link

xpost -- Very much waiting on that series. Her 80s one was excellent.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:43 (one week ago) link

Halfway through the 80s one, was savouring it, but will need to speed up.

really wish there was an easy way to view some of these films, lifes just too short to hunt around all the streaming services, and try to keep on top of it all.

its like listening to a classic albums podcast but each song might be on a different streaming services and some songs completely missing...

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 23 January 2023 12:36 (one week ago) link

If you have public libraries in your area, many of them stock these things on DVD.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 14:55 (one week ago) link

I really have to see Jade again someday

omar little, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:29 (one week ago) link

David Corelli : Cristal, Baluga, Wolfgang Puck... it's a fuckhouse.

omar little, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:29 (one week ago) link


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