RIP David Brooks

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not really

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

to be fair, his soul is dead

tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

maybe, someday

am0n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tSGDs.png

ice cr?m, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

He and E.J. Dionne on NPR are like a shrimp and goldfish floating in a thin gruel.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

lol i am ded

am0n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Bump this thread whenever he dies.

RIP, hell needed a bunch of cretinous demographic catchphrases.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

David Brooks epitomizes the kind of career pundit who always seems at least a tiny bit guilty that he gets paid at all. I used to think Frum was like that, too, though I heard an interesting sign-off from him on NPR yesterday, where he announced he was abdicating his point/counterpart position because he didn't feel his views currently aligned with that of "the right."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Frum has more brains than Brooks.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

frum is worth a million brookses, which says more about brooks than frum

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Bobos in mourning.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

I only brought up Frum because he's another guy who practically sounds like hand wringing.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Frum's a smart feller but I've never quite forgiven him for:

http://gopbelgium.com/images/booklist/The%20Right%20Man%20by%20David%20Frum.gif

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

i hate david frum and the things he has historically stood for but at least he's not a total waste of space

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Not the right thread, but since we're posting remarks by GOP buffoons here's Douthat's latest dispatch from fantasyland.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

So Frum with some hand-wringing seemingly admitted yesterday that stimulus might have been necessary and now Douthat says stimulus would have been ok if it had been done by a President McCain (in a better way of course than the Dems did). Oy veh.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

oh douchehatpaws

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

more like Ross don'tdouthat amirite

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

my fav douthat moment was when i saw him interviewed on tv and the interviewer read a wonkete quote that called him a something like a misogynist neck beard homunculus and his response was all 'well sometimes you make arguments that work and sometimes they kinda fall flat but you know' and it was like dawg they just called u a homunculus

ice cr?m, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

lol

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

In November 2009 I saw Douthat on a Friday at noon in the gay portion of Dupont Circle with a man-friend.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

haha wow: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/opinion/workers-of-the-world-unite.html

s.clover, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:57 (ten years ago) link

this turdball should write slashfic:

Occasionally you get a candidate, like Tim Pawlenty, who grew up working class. But he gets sucked up by the consultants, the donors and the professional party members and he ends up sounding like every other Republican. Other times a candidate will emerge who taps into a working-class vibe — Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee or Sarah Palin. But, so far, these have been flawed candidates who get buried under an avalanche of negative ads and brutal coverage.

This year, Romney is trying to establish some emotional bond with the working class by waging a hyperpatriotic campaign: I may be the son of a millionaire with a religion that makes you uncomfortable, but I love this country just like you. The strategy appears to be only a partial success.

Enter Rick Santorum.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:59 (ten years ago) link

The country doesn’t want an election that is Harvard Law versus Harvard Law.

wait, hasn't david brooks spent years arguing that this is a perfectly good thing??

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:32 (ten years ago) link

If you took a working-class candidate from the right, like Santorum, and a working-class candidate from the left, like Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, and you found a few islands of common ground, you could win this election by a landslide.

Brown was born in Mansfield, Ohio, the son of Emily (née Campbell) and Charles Gailey Brown, M.D.[1] He was named after his maternal grandfather. He became an Eagle Scout in 1967. He received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Russian studies from Yale University in 1974. At Yale, he was in Davenport College, the same residential college as U.S. Presidents George H. W. and George W. Bush

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:38 (ten years ago) link

and you found a few islands of common ground

Sometimes he sounds just like Tom Friedman

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 05:18 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone read the Life Reports David Brooks has been running in the nytimes? It's a really good way to make yourself hopeless and depressed.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (ten years ago) link

Otoh, you can probably say that about anything relating to David Brooks.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/opinion/brooks-the-materialist-fallacy.html

had to physically restrain myself from ripping the skin off my face as I was reading this.

s.clover, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:08 (ten years ago) link

He really is such a dunce.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:33 (ten years ago) link

what the hell's he talking about

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:29 (ten years ago) link

yogurt, I think

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (ten years ago) link

He is doing a little kid level response to the standard criticism of Murray's latest book

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:17 (ten years ago) link

more like Roast in Piss

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:22 (ten years ago) link

Please take a number, if you would like to be the next columnist/blogger/economist etc. to critique David Brooks' latest pronouncement:

Here's Dean Baker

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/david-brooks-denounces-economics-is-biology-next

Brooks also has an interesting theory on the loss of skills. He tells readers:

"The American social fabric is now so depleted that even if manufacturing jobs miraculously came back we still would not be producing enough stable, skilled workers to fill them."

Five years ago we had two million more people employed in manufacturing than we do today. Has the social fabric become so depleted in this period that these people or others could now not fill these jobs if they came back? If Brooks really thinks that the ill effects of unemployment are that extreme he should be screaming for more stimulus in every column.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:11 (ten years ago) link

brooks recasts real world problems as a morality play in his role as conservative apologist: every david brooks column

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:14 (ten years ago) link

tho often i guess they are not so much real world problems as fake made up problems

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:15 (ten years ago) link

Today's helping, courtesy of a certain ilx alumnus: http://www.salon.com/2012/02/17/david_brooks_i_have_heard_of_jeremy_lin/singleton/

But even while grappling with the tension between religious values and contemporary cultural values, which is basically well within Brooks’ wheelhouse, he demonstrates a hilarious misunderstanding of sports, and what sports are “about,” because Mr. Brooks has been spending far too much time in his cloistered elite liberal media ivory tower munching on brie and arugula and not enough time among Real Americans in their “Sporting Taverns” watching “The Big Game” over a pint of mass-market domestic lager.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:59 (ten years ago) link

suspect beating up brooks when u need an easy column will outlast "analyzing" linsanity/linreality tbh

the fading ghost of schadenfreude whiplash (Hunt3r), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:24 (ten years ago) link

A few generations ago, teenagers went steady. But over the past decades, the dating relationship has been replaced by a more amorphous hook-up culture.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:20 (ten years ago) link

a few generations ago, it was legal to marry a 15 year old

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (ten years ago) link

a few generations ago, interracial marriage was against the law

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (ten years ago) link

a few generations ago, bestiality was legal in Florida

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:36 (ten years ago) link

The half-century between 1912 and 1962 was a period of great wars and economic tumult but also of impressive social cohesion. Marriage rates were high. Community groups connected people across class

In the half-century between 1962 and the present, America has become more prosperous, peaceful and fair, but the social fabric has deteriorated. Social trust has plummeted. Society has segmented. The share of Americans born out of wedlock is now at 40 percent and rising.

Ah, the good ol' days..... If only married people had kids, we could have impressive social cohesion and a strong social fabric like we did before 1961, when only men could get decent jobs and we kept those darned negroes out of our good schools, restaurants, and bus seats....

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:41 (ten years ago) link

beyond self-parody at this point

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:26 (ten years ago) link

To me, the Wyman piece reinforces how geographically defined our 2 political parties have become. Democrats are the party of the big cities, Republicans are the party of the small towns. Within those geographic boundaries, the party alignment cuts across class and income distinctions, to a surprising extent. Demographically, big cities are the future, but due to some quirks of our constitution, small towns get a disproportionate representation in Washington, so the GOP punches above its weight at the national level.

o. nate, Friday, 6 August 2021 16:17 (one year ago) link

I fixed my TV just so I could hate watch DB tonight :(

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 6 August 2021 16:49 (one year ago) link

Democrats are the party of the big cities, Republicans are the party of the small towns.

Worth noting, though, that Democrats are also the party of the small cities. There are a lot of them and they add up.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 6 August 2021 17:09 (one year ago) link

at least we're not talking about David Brooks or his puddle-deep thoughts any more

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 6 August 2021 19:47 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

It's Friday, which means I hate-watched DB on the PBS Newshour, which means I started googling DB shit, which means I looked at his bullshit project with the fucking aspen institute, which got me to read this and now I am so filled with DB hate aaaaaaaagh AGH https://weareweavers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Weave-Relationalist-Manifesto.pdf

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:26 (one year ago) link

I mean I didn't really read it, who could possibly even, I mean for god's sake, UGH why does it exist and why does David Brooks exist, in my life, I didn't ask for this I swear

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:30 (one year ago) link

Weeeeee are weavers
I believe Brooks can get me through the night

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:38 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

it met an intern two and a half decades younger https://t.co/eH3YYzXf02

— inverted vibe curve: burgertown must be defended (@PatBlanchfield) December 8, 2021

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:26 (eleven months ago) link

lol

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:41 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

some real uh insights here

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/opinion/america-falling-apart.html

i dunno david could it be your cohort of conservative boomers who systematically sacrificed union protections and every semblance of bottom-up community solidarity it could find in exchange for lining the pockets of the ruling class?? NAWWWW it’s probably… cancel culture or something

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:02 (ten months ago) link

I had a moment's joy in my heart.

jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:07 (ten months ago) link

then you found out he was still alive

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:18 (ten months ago) link

Yes, that was the letdown.

jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:20 (ten months ago) link

But there must also be some spiritual or moral problem at the core of this. Over the past several years, and over a wide range of different behaviors, Americans have been acting in fewer pro-social and relational ways and in more antisocial and self-destructive ways. But why?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MUBVq2pxBZY/maxresdefault.jpg

Because the people who have the most stuff don't want to share it with people who have less stuff, especially the ones who don't look like them.

either way it definitely comes down to choices that people make on an individual level, nothing wrong with that framework at all

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 14 January 2022 20:10 (ten months ago) link

THIS FUCKING GUY

SHUT UP

SHUT UP

SHUT UUUUUUUUUP!!!!!!!!!!!!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:29 (ten months ago) link

in a fair society david brooks's pooping out his columns would be considered antisocial behavior

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:52 (ten months ago) link

they totally are

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 January 2022 23:08 (ten months ago) link

in a fair society David Brooks' head would be on a pike as you Uber into Poughkeepsie.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 January 2022 23:09 (ten months ago) link

Alfred,you cribbed that from Rodgers and Hammerstein

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 January 2022 02:58 (ten months ago) link

i imagine the Brooks head turning like a Billy Bass as your car speeds past, croaking, "i don't get it"

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 January 2022 12:44 (ten months ago) link

lol

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 January 2022 12:57 (ten months ago) link

lol Tracer

horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:04 (ten months ago) link

also fuck this guy

horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:05 (ten months ago) link

Did the his wedding video get linked/discussed itt?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 15:38 (ten months ago) link

oh lord. will it make me puke?

horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2022 16:18 (ten months ago) link

I can’t find it now, which is honestly a blessing for us all. I really don’t know where to begin describing it. The whole video was quite middlebrow cheesy (ok gross snobbery on my part, yes) in a way that was surprising to me? Like, a whole super-staged “first look” sequence that as you can imagine was like “oh how nice the bride joining her fatherrrrrrrrrr oh shit”

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 17:14 (ten months ago) link

Not to mention the “oh look at the Black youth we have as guests because MORALITY or whatever oh god it was AWFUL, can’t unseen.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 17:16 (ten months ago) link

Like, a whole super-staged “first look” sequence that as you can imagine was like “oh how nice the bride joining her fatherrrrrrrrrr oh shit”


lmaoooooo

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Saturday, 15 January 2022 17:22 (ten months ago) link

Ngl, going to have a party when this guy croaks.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:34 (ten months ago) link

I will host. It will be a multi-day affair, pack accordingly.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:40 (ten months ago) link

My headstone will read “loved horses and hated David Brooks”

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:41 (ten months ago) link

Not to mention the “oh look at the Black youth we have as guests because MORALITY or whatever oh god it was AWFUL, can’t unseen.

― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, January 15, 2022 12:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

okay, would definitely puke

horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2022 19:13 (ten months ago) link

Have we talked about Weave, another nauseating David Brooks project:

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/programs/weave-the-social-fabric-initiative/

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 19:24 (ten months ago) link

Weaving is a way of life and a state of mind, not a set of actions. It’s about the spirit of caring you bring to each interaction with someone else. It’s a willingness to be open and loving, whether you get anything in return. As humans, we long for honest, deep connection. Weavers make the effort to build those connections and make others feel valued.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 15 January 2022 19:25 (ten months ago) link

actions optional

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:52 (ten months ago) link

aspeninstitute url is a dead giveaway that it is a bunch of bourgeois moonbeams

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:34 (ten months ago) link

who up in this binch read Bobos in Paradise? what a time to be alive

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:08 (ten months ago) link

I used to go to hardcore shows in a church basement in the town that book is about.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:11 (ten months ago) link

lol nice

that book was truly a damp fart punctuating the End of History

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:12 (ten months ago) link

I remember that I already hated Brooks when it came out, and my parents said it was trash, so never picked it up despite having spent quite a lot of time in that area. Got into a lot of trouble as a young teen there.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:15 (ten months ago) link

Oh I absolutely read that shortly after it came out.

He was on to something, but that something was too close to my own boboness and my ambivalent feelings about that boboness, thus I despised it in a self-recognizing-self-hating kind of way, which probably sums up a good chunk (but certainly not all) of Why I Hate David Brooks.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 16 January 2022 21:10 (ten months ago) link

I think I read like the first chapter of Bobos — I remember something about Red Lobster — and gave up.

Like, it felt very self-congratulatory that he had actually visited a real-life Red Lobster in some anonymous suburb, to get a feel for Regular People.

Cant believe he didnt see Trump coming

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 January 2022 23:07 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

Low on kitchen counter space? Pull out a drawer and put your cutting board on top of it.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 June 2022 20:42 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

this fuckin guy

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Thursday, 24 November 2022 19:04 (one week ago) link

I can’t bring myself to share the relevant piece today but man, how much would we have to pay this guy to just stfu already?

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:19 (one week ago) link

brb just need to chop some onions on a cutting board that's sliding around on top of a pulled-out drawer

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 November 2022 09:28 (one week ago) link


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