RIP David Brooks

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not really

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

to be fair, his soul is dead

tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe, someday

am0n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/tSGDs.png

ice cr?m, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

He and E.J. Dionne on NPR are like a shrimp and goldfish floating in a thin gruel.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol i am ded

am0n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bump this thread whenever he dies.

RIP, hell needed a bunch of cretinous demographic catchphrases.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

David Brooks epitomizes the kind of career pundit who always seems at least a tiny bit guilty that he gets paid at all. I used to think Frum was like that, too, though I heard an interesting sign-off from him on NPR yesterday, where he announced he was abdicating his point/counterpart position because he didn't feel his views currently aligned with that of "the right."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Frum has more brains than Brooks.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

frum is worth a million brookses, which says more about brooks than frum

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol xp

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bobos in mourning.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I only brought up Frum because he's another guy who practically sounds like hand wringing.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Frum's a smart feller but I've never quite forgiven him for:

http://gopbelgium.com/images/booklist/The%20Right%20Man%20by%20David%20Frum.gif

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate david frum and the things he has historically stood for but at least he's not a total waste of space

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not the right thread, but since we're posting remarks by GOP buffoons here's Douthat's latest dispatch from fantasyland.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

So Frum with some hand-wringing seemingly admitted yesterday that stimulus might have been necessary and now Douthat says stimulus would have been ok if it had been done by a President McCain (in a better way of course than the Dems did). Oy veh.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh douchehatpaws

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

more like Ross don'tdouthat amirite

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

my fav douthat moment was when i saw him interviewed on tv and the interviewer read a wonkete quote that called him a something like a misogynist neck beard homunculus and his response was all 'well sometimes you make arguments that work and sometimes they kinda fall flat but you know' and it was like dawg they just called u a homunculus

ice cr?m, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

In November 2009 I saw Douthat on a Friday at noon in the gay portion of Dupont Circle with a man-friend.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

haha wow: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/opinion/workers-of-the-world-unite.html

s.clover, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

this turdball should write slashfic:

Occasionally you get a candidate, like Tim Pawlenty, who grew up working class. But he gets sucked up by the consultants, the donors and the professional party members and he ends up sounding like every other Republican. Other times a candidate will emerge who taps into a working-class vibe — Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee or Sarah Palin. But, so far, these have been flawed candidates who get buried under an avalanche of negative ads and brutal coverage.

This year, Romney is trying to establish some emotional bond with the working class by waging a hyperpatriotic campaign: I may be the son of a millionaire with a religion that makes you uncomfortable, but I love this country just like you. The strategy appears to be only a partial success.

Enter Rick Santorum.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

The country doesn’t want an election that is Harvard Law versus Harvard Law.

wait, hasn't david brooks spent years arguing that this is a perfectly good thing??

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

If you took a working-class candidate from the right, like Santorum, and a working-class candidate from the left, like Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, and you found a few islands of common ground, you could win this election by a landslide.

Brown was born in Mansfield, Ohio, the son of Emily (née Campbell) and Charles Gailey Brown, M.D.[1] He was named after his maternal grandfather. He became an Eagle Scout in 1967. He received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Russian studies from Yale University in 1974. At Yale, he was in Davenport College, the same residential college as U.S. Presidents George H. W. and George W. Bush

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

and you found a few islands of common ground

Sometimes he sounds just like Tom Friedman

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 05:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the Life Reports David Brooks has been running in the nytimes? It's a really good way to make yourself hopeless and depressed.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Otoh, you can probably say that about anything relating to David Brooks.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/opinion/brooks-the-materialist-fallacy.html

had to physically restrain myself from ripping the skin off my face as I was reading this.

s.clover, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

He really is such a dunce.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

what the hell's he talking about

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

yogurt, I think

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

He is doing a little kid level response to the standard criticism of Murray's latest book

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

more like Roast in Piss

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Please take a number, if you would like to be the next columnist/blogger/economist etc. to critique David Brooks' latest pronouncement:

Here's Dean Baker

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/david-brooks-denounces-economics-is-biology-next

Brooks also has an interesting theory on the loss of skills. He tells readers:

"The American social fabric is now so depleted that even if manufacturing jobs miraculously came back we still would not be producing enough stable, skilled workers to fill them."

Five years ago we had two million more people employed in manufacturing than we do today. Has the social fabric become so depleted in this period that these people or others could now not fill these jobs if they came back? If Brooks really thinks that the ill effects of unemployment are that extreme he should be screaming for more stimulus in every column.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

brooks recasts real world problems as a morality play in his role as conservative apologist: every david brooks column

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

tho often i guess they are not so much real world problems as fake made up problems

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Today's helping, courtesy of a certain ilx alumnus: http://www.salon.com/2012/02/17/david_brooks_i_have_heard_of_jeremy_lin/singleton/

But even while grappling with the tension between religious values and contemporary cultural values, which is basically well within Brooks’ wheelhouse, he demonstrates a hilarious misunderstanding of sports, and what sports are “about,” because Mr. Brooks has been spending far too much time in his cloistered elite liberal media ivory tower munching on brie and arugula and not enough time among Real Americans in their “Sporting Taverns” watching “The Big Game” over a pint of mass-market domestic lager.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

suspect beating up brooks when u need an easy column will outlast "analyzing" linsanity/linreality tbh

the fading ghost of schadenfreude whiplash (Hunt3r), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

A few generations ago, teenagers went steady. But over the past decades, the dating relationship has been replaced by a more amorphous hook-up culture.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, it was legal to marry a 15 year old

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, interracial marriage was against the law

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, bestiality was legal in Florida

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

The half-century between 1912 and 1962 was a period of great wars and economic tumult but also of impressive social cohesion. Marriage rates were high. Community groups connected people across class

In the half-century between 1962 and the present, America has become more prosperous, peaceful and fair, but the social fabric has deteriorated. Social trust has plummeted. Society has segmented. The share of Americans born out of wedlock is now at 40 percent and rising.

Ah, the good ol' days..... If only married people had kids, we could have impressive social cohesion and a strong social fabric like we did before 1961, when only men could get decent jobs and we kept those darned negroes out of our good schools, restaurants, and bus seats....

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

beyond self-parody at this point

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

No.

There are way more virulent figures in the commentariat than Brooks. He just irritates people because he is in the New York Times and people think every idea there should be ilx-friendly.

If every “conservative” in American became more like Brooks and less like Hannity... we would still be in bad shape but our situation would be far more manageable.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Wow, impressed with the esoteric reference. Doubt anyone has pointed out that historical resonance yet.

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thanks y'all!

rant incoming!

i'm not a historian or any sort of professional on the topic of roman historiography. i know about flaccus the same way y'all know about flaccus - reading about him on wikipedia.

i do get very particularly annoyed when i read facile analogies like brooks'. there are always these men who cast themselves as defenders of some Grand Intellectual Tradition because of some old tv show they saw on the public broadcasting station they keep trying to defund.

i saw that tv show too, and i enjoyed it, but robert graves isn't a historian, and john hurt isn't caligula.

i don't know a whole lot about roman history. i know a little bit about american history. i know american history, from its inception, has been full of a whole lot of self-important men pretending like they're romans while not actually knowing very much about ancient rome itself.

i'm not a historian, but i know they exist, i know history wasn't something that was chiseled in stone at the time it happens, it's something that's re-examined and re-written over and over again through the ages. that while america is not rome, has never been and never will be rome, there are certain patterns in history that occur, patterns that can be re-discovered through the lens of the current age.

every age, yes, has its tyrants, and trump is certainly one for our age. every age also has its hypocritical and mealy-mouthed sycophants, its unprincipled second-rate schemers and connivers who try and get ahead like the tyrants do but wind up undone and largely unremembered.

history may lionize tyrants like genghis khan. it may have a perverse fascination with tyrants like caligula. i do not like to prognosticate, but i will make an exception here: history will never vindicate men like flaccus.

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

If every “conservative” in American became more like Brooks and less like Hannity... we would still be in bad shape but our situation would be far more manageable.


maybe for you, but not for young women who don’t want to be dragooned into fucking their dipshit male bosses

maura, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:47 (one month ago) Permalink

also brooks is so stupid. like “better than hannity” is a low bar. we deserve better

maura, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:47 (one month ago) Permalink

better than better than hannity

j., Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:04 (one month ago) Permalink

We shouldn’t joke/fantasize about people getting tortured.

When it’s someone who is causing immense harm and
is protected by vast power, like Trump, I understand the impulse as an expression of anger and desperation. But that isn’t the case with Brooks. He is a center-right newspaper columnist who is mostly famous for being a dork.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:14 (one month ago) Permalink

I used Hannity as a counter-example because he is a propagandist who spreads dangerous misinformation to an impressionable base everyday.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Trump wishes he were more like Caligula, who he surely does not know, but he's more like Count Chocula, with whom he is certainly more familiar.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:18 (one month ago) Permalink

We shouldn’t joke/fantasize about people getting tortured.

When it’s someone who is causing immense harm and
is protected by vast power, like Trump, I understand the impulse as an expression of anger and desperation. But that isn’t the case with Brooks. He is a center-right newspaper columnist who is mostly famous for being a dork.

i'd argue that brooks, as a public figure who advocated strongly for the iraq war, did actually help cause immense harm to hundreds of thousands of people in the middle east so i feel just fine about posts where i joke about him being on the receiving end of a tiny fraction of the horror he supported so glibly, and for which he has never apologised

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:28 (one month ago) Permalink

So many people supported that war including hillary clinton. No one thinks it’s cool to joke about her getting dragged to a blacksite.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:30 (one month ago) Permalink

no i'm cool with that too tbh

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Fine, we’re different.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:32 (one month ago) Permalink

maybe if politicians had to consider facing trial for war crimes they'd be less inclined to commit them

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Yes, a trial. Because that was your point in saying he should be secretly dragged to a black site and tortured.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:34 (one month ago) Permalink

David Brooks should die suddenly and peacefully in a piano-moving accident

moose; squirrel (silby), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:44 (one month ago) Permalink

There we go.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

It even had the benefit of being funny and not sickening.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:48 (one month ago) Permalink

David Brooks should die suddenly and peacefully in a testicle-crushing accident.

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:54 (one month ago) Permalink

No Hilllary fan here but she didn't write a column as recently as October right in the middle of this shitstorm wittingly and disingenuously substituing "Nationalism" for patriotism

he should be made to see the piano arriving from a great height

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Execution by piano for that column seems too much.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:10 (one month ago) Permalink

David Brooks should be arrested on unclear charges and sent on a labyrinthine journey through various courts and prisons until he realizes his guilt of the ultimate crime: being David Brooks.

JoeStork, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:41 (one month ago) Permalink

like a dog!

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:40 (one month ago) Permalink

it's a false dichotomy to say that if only we were ruled by folks like david brooks we'd be better off than the folks we have now. the whole punditocracy and political class that david brooks, in his feeble way, represents, is one of the reasons we are where we are now, even if brooks himself might tsk tsk some of the more garish expressions of the moment.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I never said that but fine.

I said that the kind of gallows humor/fantasizing about someone getting brutally tortured makes sense when it’s someone who is directly oppressing you—even though it’s still not my thing. When you just talk that way about everyone you dislike it’s just grotesque and dehumanizing.0

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:15 (one month ago) Permalink

And i do think brooks is a different kind of figure than hannity, as hannity is an active propagandist for the president, who advises him informally and all the rest.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:17 (one month ago) Permalink

jesus christ

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I just said joking about torture was in bad taste!

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:45 (one month ago) Permalink

treesh does display certain Christ-like qualities

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:46 (one month ago) Permalink

There were actual people dragged to CIA black sites, it’s not an abstract, zany misfortune to joke about befalling conservative columnists.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:48 (one month ago) Permalink

nah i think it is

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:49 (one month ago) Permalink

it's definitely wrong to say that david brooks should be extradited to a special-ops blacksite for enhanced interrogation, he should be guillotined after a fair trial

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Should be condemned to a life of daily correspondence with Tom Friedman, and Tom Friedman only, and vice versa

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:29 (one month ago) Permalink

I never said that but fine.

i... don't think i was even responding to you?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Sometimes you change your mind in ways you never could have imagined. https://t.co/CTIfZ3QY36

— David Brooks (@nytdavidbrooks) March 8, 2019

j., Friday, 8 March 2019 04:46 (one month ago) Permalink

"Reparations are a drastic policy and hard to execute"

Jesus christ you guys walked on the moon, detonated an atom bomb, have massive destroyer ships on every ship and built the internet. Can we stop talking about reparations like it is some monumental task.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 8 March 2019 05:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Jesus christ you guys walked on the moon, detonated an atom bomb, have massive destroyer ships on every ship and built the internet. Can we stop talking about reparations like it is some monumental task.

― Van Horn Street

except for "walking on the moon", this can pretty much be filed under "white guys breaking shit". i'm willing to grant the professed incompetence of white dudes, and if they're not up to the challenge of reparations they should find something easier to do with their lives than trying to implement just governance.

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink

David Brooks should die suddenly and peacefully in a testicle-crushing accident.

― 27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC)

yesterday my newsfeed suggested an article about a shadowy billionaire dying in a botched penis-enlargement surgery. at the time i wasn't sure why google thought i would be interested. now i understand.

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:48 (one month ago) Permalink

tbf walking on the moon seems pretty hard

flappy bird, Monday, 11 March 2019 05:34 (one month ago) Permalink

walking on the moon was also ultimately in service to the cause of white guys breaking shit

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 11 March 2019 06:13 (one month ago) Permalink

walking on the moon is a cop

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 12:40 (one month ago) Permalink

walking on the moon is a police song

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 12:41 (one month ago) Permalink

walking on the moon is a snack imo

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

obligatory

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:24 (one month ago) Permalink

"If Stalin had a Smartphone"

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Sometimes you change your mind in ways you never could have imagined.

This seems like the line that would be on the bottom of the poster for a really bad movie about David Brooks getting a black friend

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Each would learn something from the other

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Hahahaha

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:32 (one month ago) Permalink

it would win best picture

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:25 (one month ago) Permalink

it did.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:57 (one month ago) Permalink

again

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:18 (one month ago) Permalink


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