jus wanna talk 2u abt JAPANESE HORROR FILM

yeah honestly if theres a movie worse than tumbling doll of flesh than im not really interested.

i think this stuff is kinda interesting in that it tests my limits of what i can watch w/o making myself sick but theres a flatness and cheapness to a lot of the jp stuff that ive watched that makes it deeply unsettling? not even the gore so much as the grainy, ugly sex scenes

you are charlie sheen and i claim my $5

haha is the story that he called the fbi thinking he watched an actual snuff film true? someone told me that during the TIGER BLOOD WINNING sideshow and i did not believe them

repellent, flat, and cheap, yes. but they still have intrinsic value as cultural artifacts. more so than anything Fred Vogel or Lucifer Valentine has hacked up over here.

yeah. Sheen turned the FBI on to "Flower of Flesh and Blood." maroon.

hey mr. hal jam, not to derail, but what's the most flat cheap repellent but with value horror flick you've seen recently. i need something to watch today. (maybe just repellent.)

mu-zan e has an actual plot and is probably the 'best' from that list that ive seen

"but with value," eh? have to think. everything that comes to mind errs either on the side of attempted artiness or rank incompetence.

haha well i'll take those too.

though rank incompetence prolly more appealing.

have you watched the cerda stuff strongo? not japanese, and short, but

xpost ok nevermind, the thing with cerda is that hes way too competent, was going to rec "Aftermath"

there's always Nathan Schiff...

still if you want to ruin your day, i think its on netflix streaming, and its amazing and fucked up

i assume you dont mean the cheryl ladd movie.

yeah if you haven't seen the cerda stuff... netflix has aftermath and genesis iirc

oh the autopsy movie! i did see that.

^ times when you know yr the only person in yr family whod ever say something like that

there's a film called Buzz Saw(2005, d: Robin Garrels) which i find fascinating. artless and but insinuatingly weird. and another one, RF Pangborn's The Sadness (2007), which is all kinds of awful but inexplicably enjoyable.

artless and incoherent, that is. just your typical "alien force takes over apartment building, causing power tools to become sentient" flick. Pangborn's "movie" has a can't-miss exploitation hook - little girl, sold by her junkie parents to satanic cultists for sacrificial purposes, comes back from the dead to torture-kill everyone who wronged her - but the technical credits are epically inept, all around.

some of the set pieces in Buzz Saw are like skid-row Buñuel! unintentionally, i assume.

"just repellent" is easier, strongo. The Taint!

Lamp have you seen A Serbian Film bcz I've never seen this Tumbling Doll thing but I can't imagine anything worse than that

it's much worse (or at least harsher in effect) than the glossy, competently made ASF. all Anaru, Yamanouchi, et al and ASF have in common are their motivations: exploitation and provocation for monetary gain.

Naked Blood! Absolutely gross. My mate literally turned green during the eyeball scene.

yeah a serbian film is almost an attempt to put a 'mainstream' horror gloss on like august underground or s.thing from what i can tell the list of guinea pig-style films that mr. hal jam listed are all on a way deeper level, they function a lot like pornography (and sometimes like w/tumbling doll include hardcore sex scenes) in the way they dispense w/ any distractions from the gore

this stuff is total porno for psychos. evidence of the festering sickness, curdled repression, and extreme misogyny at the heart of Japanese society. if any was needed. if there's even a modicum of historical accuracy to the likes of the notorious Shogun's "Torture" films of the late '60s, Japan's royally messed-up morals are not just a modern problem.

oh hey strongo if you want the other end of awful, might i suggest visions of suffering which is a million miles too long and utterly gross in both subject and skill of filmmaker. also not japanese tho

VOS and not POAK? i actually think Iskanov has some talent as a (music video) director.

poak i have indeed seen.

oh ha i was actually thinking of POAK

heh. both fit your description. POAK a mite moreso.

yeah, i think VOS tries a little harder to be a movie rather than a bunch of psycho setpieces interspersed w/grainy moody landscape + 3rd rate skinny puppy soundtracks

anyone seen confessions?

OK so 964 Pinocchio was

• totally batshit
• really slow-paced/scenes much longer than they needed to be
• something akin to Jodorowsky making a Japanese horror film after spending a weekend watching nothing but Tool music vidoes and the Æon Flux box set
• largely incoherent
• filled with really pretty/fascinating shots and events and such
• much more enjoyable when I stopped trying to parse any semblance of narrative and watched it as some sort of nonsensical experimental piece

I'm also adding Meatball Machine to my list of stuff to see

Can someone explain the ending of Cure to me?

anyone seen confessions?

Yes, it's dire

Can someone explain the ending of Cure to me?

― calstars, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:42 PM (1 hour ago)

SPOILERS OBV been a long time but iirc the detective takes over the hypnosis guy's business, killings continue etc

missed this earlier, but yeah, more or less. the exact mechanics remain pretty obscure, but that seems to be the gist.

Anyone know a film where a ringu style girl suddenly appears out of nowhere and flies across the room at a dude sitting in a cafe or something? Haven't seen it and very unlikely to want to but the image is in my head from somewhere.

the eye?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5WO2WKyfLA&feature=related

Omg that's it, thx. BUT NO THX - watched that clip with the sound off and pretty much through my fingers and it still freaked me out, lol. (loving the horror poll nevertheless!)

forgot all about the elevator scene @ 4:15, so awes. too bad it fell apart at the end.

ps this movie is from HK not japan

saw Shindo's Kuroneko in a 35mm scope print last night, a real hypnotic b&w vengeful female ghost story from '68. His Onibaba next.

Jess Nevins has an essay up on his patreon on Japanese horror cinema from 1898 to 1949.