filmmaker NICHOLAS RAY, born August 7, 1911

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
In a Lonely Place 10
They Live by Night 3
Johnny Guitar 2
The Lusty Men 2
Bigger Than Life 1
On Dangerous Ground 1
Rebel Without a Cause 1
King of Kings 0
Wind Across the Everglades 0
Party Girl 0
We Can't Go Home Again 0
55 Days at Peking 0
The Savage Innocents 0
Bitter Victory 0
The True Story of Jesse James 0
Hot Blood 0
Run for Cover 0
Flying Leathernecks 0
Born to Be Bad 0
A Woman's Secret 0
Knock on Any Door 0
Lightning Over Water 0


satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 August 2011 04:14 (eight years ago) link

voted bigger than life. have anyone here seen 'we can't go home again'?

balls, Friday, 12 August 2011 04:20 (eight years ago) link

Between In A Lonely Place and Bigger Than Life for me.

OWLS 3D (R Baez), Friday, 12 August 2011 04:23 (eight years ago) link

Among the rare stuff, I have seen Wind Across the Everglades, which is surpassingly weird and fascinating (Plummer, Ives, Falk).

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 August 2011 04:30 (eight years ago) link

From the vantage point of 50-something years, Johnny Guitar is probably better appreciated than enjoyed. Maybe I just need to watch it again.

OWLS 3D (R Baez), Friday, 12 August 2011 04:34 (eight years ago) link

Johnny Guitar seems very enjoyable to me.

Looking for Ms Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2011 06:39 (eight years ago) link

i need to see more of these; neither 'johnny guitar' or 'in a lonely place' did much for me. the one i remember liking most is 'rebel.' i seem to recall that scorsese's a big fan of 'bigger than life.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 12 August 2011 06:50 (eight years ago) link

Does Ray actually get a directorial credit on 'Lightning Over Water' (I've never seen it)?

The Savage Innocents features lots of animal slaughter footage that wouldn't be out of place in an Italian cannibal movie. Saw Wind Across the Everglades many years ago at the NFT, my memory is that it was butchered by the studio at the time of its release, so feels very...incoherent.

Johnny Guitar, Bigger than Life and Rebel all have beautiful colour (Mercedes McCambridge in black; James Mason and the yellow taxi cabs' Jimmy Dean's red jacket) and an incredible energy in the way that all shots are framed/edited - utterly distinctive mise-en-scene, so obvious why the cahiers crew loved him so. But it's the black and white neo-noirs that I admire the most - In a Lonely Place (re-screen it J.D.!), They Live by Night, On Dangerous Ground - such powerful, ADULT films, even now.

Only found out recently that Ray and Gavin Lambert were lovers for a while - what a meeting of Hollywood auteurism and British cinephilia!

Ward Fowler, Friday, 12 August 2011 08:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZGDqPAvXg&feature=related

buzza, Friday, 12 August 2011 08:28 (eight years ago) link

gonna shoot for they live by night, which lived up to all the things i heard about it - i don't know i even knew it was first, but within the confines of being a fairly straightforward of-its-time flick it's supremely romantic and exciting. in a lonely place i think is a worthy winner but i'm so fond of the former.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fKuQO5RXW_0/TIR8PdnOljI/AAAAAAAAAHI/ajWeRvaiiMQ/s1600/3425022420_18601a7399.jpg

would be interested to hear some opinions of his later but not final stuff, which i have the impression was v large scale + nuts, if anyone's seen it/would rep for it

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Friday, 12 August 2011 09:17 (eight years ago) link

On Dangerous Ground or In a Lonely Place: career-bests by both Ryan and Bogie.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2011 12:22 (eight years ago) link

In a Lonely Place. Everything else I've seen has dated rather badly, and Johnny Guitar is just atrocious.

Freedom, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:38 (eight years ago) link

I'm a terrible gay for not loving Johnny Guitar.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2011 12:41 (eight years ago) link

In a Lonely Place

Now he's doing horse (DL), Friday, 12 August 2011 13:11 (eight years ago) link

I'm a terrible gay for not loving Johnny Guitar.

or...a Communist!

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 August 2011 13:19 (eight years ago) link

Lonely Place.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:40 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:01 (eight years ago) link

anyone seen Born to Be Bad? showing in NY tom'w

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 August 2011 01:58 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:01 (eight years ago) link

i love in a lonely place and i def would have considered voting for it but this is ridiculous

✇ (Tape Store), Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Knock on Any Door not on dvd wtf?

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:25 (eight years ago) link

surprised by result

would have gone 'on dangerous ground' i think

old money entertainment (history mayne), Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:29 (eight years ago) link

I dunno TS, i like all the films that got votes but can you be surprised given that there's been a revived appec of IaLP in the last 20 years?

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2011 01:44 (eight years ago) link

Born to Be Bad is quite watchable, given that Ryan has way less screen time than Joan Fontaine, and maybe Zachary Scott and Joan Leslie too. No lost classic.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2011 02:34 (eight years ago) link

Born to be Bad and A Woman's Secret are airing on TCM on Oct. 4th.

Gukbe, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:17 (eight years ago) link

i voted for The Lusty Men because thats a great title for a movie (havent seen it obv)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:33 (eight years ago) link

Would have voted for that orImitation of Life

Viriconium Island Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:44 (eight years ago) link

"Cinema is Nicholas Ray..." But since I learned that his wife had an affair with his 13 year old son it is now what I always think of when I think of Nicholas Ray. Gloria Grahame is one of my favorite actresses. That was pretty screwed up.

I have yet to watch a Nicholas Ray film that doesn't become a favorite. A Woman's Secret is probably my least favorite but I loved the look of that film and the story and of course Grahame.

*tera, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:08 (eight years ago) link

what would you vote - or what would you vote if not in a lonely place, tera? sorta feel like i should watch some more having seen a few of those that placed.

(using no way as way) (schlump), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:14 (eight years ago) link

Gloria Grahame later married the son, btw. (He wasn't hers!)

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, to give the story an even creepier ending!

*tera, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Johnny Guitar

*tera, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:17 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

Just got done with Party Girl, Ray's last proper studio effort. A retro-gangster film with noir undertones, ultra-lavish production values, and Cyd Charisse very nearly ruining the day with monotone line readings in "Sultry Schoolmarm" mode. However once the film locks in, you don't care as much (two Charisse dance solos, which push code standards for teh sexy, help).

Lady Writer, Male Seether (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 January 2012 05:22 (eight years ago) link

Does Ray actually get a directorial credit on 'Lightning Over Water' (I've never seen it)?

wenders sez in the commentary that ray was 'directing' whenever wim was on screen (& vice versa) but idk

it's worth seeing tho ray is so frail & kinda hazy from painkillers in a lot of it; in a weird way it struck me as similar to synecdoche, ny

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:54 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

http://i46.tinypic.com/vhyd6t.jpg

August 7th, from Olive Films (also available in standard def)

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Would have voted for that or/Imitation of Life/

Bigger Than Life of course

The Unbassful Serpent (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:20 (eight years ago) link

Thanks for reminding me; film finally available on Criterion.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:24 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Knock on Any Door not on dvd wtf?

― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 August 2011 00:25 (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this good? i wanna watch bogart in something i haven't seen but no-one ever seems super enthusiastic about it.

blossom smulch (schlump), Sunday, 8 July 2012 12:52 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

we cant go home again is out via oscilloscope

http://www.amazon.com/Cant-Home-Again-Expect-Blu-ray/dp/B008X7IC70/ref=atv_dvd_twister

johnny crunch, Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:12 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Just caught They Live By Night. Excellent, as expected.

HOLY MOPEDS (R Baez), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:21 (seven years ago) link

^^^ yeah, me too. It's on a twofer disc with Side Street, so I've had a double dose of discovering Cathy O'Donnell.

Rocking Disco Santa (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:04 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

have anyone here seen 'we can't go home again'?
Have not seen it, but just watched the documentary about the making of it, Don't Expect Too Much. None other than Victor Erice said in its defense that it was "exemplary in its failure." Did see Wind Across The Everglades which has really stayed with me.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 10:47 (six years ago) link

Although there was a while when I was mentally confusing the latter with Elia Kazan's Wild RIver.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 10:49 (six years ago) link

The melody is in the eyes, the words are just the left hand.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 July 2013 13:30 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I saw "Bigger Than Life" for the first time today. Amazing film if excruciating to watch sometimes. That bit where James Mason bullies his kid while throwing the football at him got to me I have to say :(

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 00:32 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

The Criterion restoration of They Live By Night is so sparkling that it amounts to watching the film new.

I'd forgotten how Ray fills the screen with memorable bit parts, lets the film breathe. In its own way it's as excellent as Thieves Like Us.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 August 2017 11:47 (two years ago) link

rewatched the Mitchum-Hayward rodeo drama The Lusty Men last night. Fernando Croce otm:

http://www.cinepassion.org/Reviews/l/LustyMen.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 August 2017 20:02 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

yeah, CC of They Live by Night is a must-watch. What a debut.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:58 (two years ago) link

johnny guitar is such a fucking awesome movie

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:13 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

after seeing it again I think I maybe like Bigger Than Life as much as Johnny Guitar and In a Lonely Place

They Live By Night is an interesting first feature

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 02:31 (one year ago) link

Yeah Bigger Than Life seems to get overlooked

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 June 2019 02:43 (one year ago) link

thought the use os widescreen to look at interior spaces was interesting

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 02:58 (one year ago) link

*of

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 02:58 (one year ago) link

the way an Eisenhower family is portrayed in this film is also fascinating, maybe even more than in Rebel Without a Cause

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 03:25 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

"You know what? You read too many comic books."

flappy bird, Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:20 (two weeks ago) link


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