Kieslowski - Three Colors Trilogy - Poll

No, he said on the Kieslowski thread that he liked Red.

My bad. I'm sorry. I thought he implied something disparaging on the Best Films of the 90s thread :(

that doesn't sound like him

i am and pretty much always have been a sucker for art about 'ideas' (and hence was hardcore on the kieslowski train already), was vaguely a cineaste at this time (18-19), and find beautiful women attractive so these films were pretty huge w/ me. had a definite crush on irene jacob (dating back to veronique), so much so i went to see that awful mid-nineties version of othello. i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

Unless you count some Aldomovar films...?

In my mind the "debate" in 1994 wasn't between Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump: more like PF vs Red. Kieslowski's rep was such that he got Best Director and Screenplay nods that year -- and Tarantino himself was a fan.

*Alomodovar obv

heh - Almodovar

btw I don't think these films are as significant as defenders (like me) argued at the time. Blue and Red are cool, chic noodling, in which we stare at beautiful women for ninety minutes. Kieslowski was lucky in that he died before his style could ossify into a manner (and kitsch).

i dont think 'blue' is particularly radical or inventive & its in some ways p trite but i do think its p keenly felt idk if that makes it 'significant'

i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

I like these movies but I think the 'trilogy!! colors!!! do you see!!' gimmick is probably responsible for a lot of the interest?

I voted blue but I haven't seen white for a long time, barely remember it.

i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

Alfred OTM on Almodovar. Might not meet your criteria, but what about Y tu mama tambien or Amores perros?

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yeah i guess almodovar, i'm one of those ppl that forgets that alot of ppl like his recent stuff as much as/more than his 80s stuff.

o duh the three amigos also

didn't like blue at the time, v disappointing after double life
liked white but it felt slight at the time, my opinion of it greatly improved after *rescreening* it
loved red

i don't know how i forgot almodovar since when i thought about irene jacob and her floudering in hollywood i thought of penelope cruz temporarily (and on occasion still) suffering the same fate

In my mind the "debate" in 1994 wasn't between Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump: more like PF vs Red. Kieslowski's rep was such that he got Best Director and Screenplay nods that year -- and Tarantino himself was a fan.

IIRC, it's mentioned in Criterion TDLoV book that Tarentino wanted Irene Jacob to play Mia Wallace, but she was already commited to Red.

and thus a life was saved

They certainly did have cachet. I wasn't the only guy at the time who bought the Blue score (by "Van Den Budenmayer").

also:

Van Den Budenmayer[After Kieślowski's death, Harvey Weinstein (then head of Miramax Films, which distributed the last four Kieślowski films in the US) wrote a eulogy for him in Premiere magazine. In it he said that Quentin Tarantino saw The Double Life of Véronique at the 1991 Cannes Film Festival and took note of its star, Irène Jacob. He apparently wrote the part of Bruce Willis's wife in Pulp Fiction for her, but she was unavailable for the shoot.

If you didn't know, The whole Trilogy coming from Criterion prob' by the end of this year.

I'm going to have to buy it again??

Thanks for the PF clarification Alfred!

blue had a huge impact on me when it came out. I went back and saw it a second time with a date. that date became my wife.

a couple years ago we were having a yard sale and an old lady pulled a vhs copy of blue out of a box. my wife described the movie to her and how it was our first date. the old lady said, "and you still married him? must've been love."

so yeah, blue.

happy birthday krzysztof kieslowski!

Red probably the most powerful of these movies, but I have seen White the most.

BLUE BLUE BLUE

white. white is hilarious. none of the others are hilarious.

when i was a teenager my favorite was red hands down though, mostly cuz of irene jacob and her bubble gum.

White, I think. Struggled with the other two to a certain extent, but always liked the closeness of death to the humour in White, the melancholy, and the portrait of adult male companionship.

Red

saw em all just once.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Red is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Blue!

I wish I could remember them. Don't remember anything, really. Hardly remember Double Life of Veronique either.

juliette binoche furiously eating a lollipop

the scene where juliette binoche drags her knuckles along a rock wall is weirdly hard to take for me

^^^^ the most memorable image.

Veronique is dulllllllllllllllllll.

sound design in blue is so well done

that part where she throws the sheet music into the garbage truck

xxxp i guess that's true as i think about it literally every time i walk past a rock wall

many many memorable moments/images in blue

lollipop wrapper blowing in the wind, kids jumping into the pool, the sugarcube, the final montage

The lollipop wrapper in the wind is luscious. I don't dislike anything you mentioned, but when I think of Blue the first thing that comes to mind is Binoche scraping her knuckles, and those stabs of classical music.

i like the kids jumping into the pool too but honestly it is pretty hard not to roll your eyes at juliette binoche floating in the FETAL POSITION in a pool which is GUESS WHICH COLOR and then agreeing to hang out with the prostitute after which A WHOLE BUNCH OF YELLING PEOPLE PILE INTO THE PREVIOUSLY EMPTY POOL DO YOU SEE

I love the expression of silent contempt when Binoche watches that old woman struggle and fail to stick her plastic bottle in the recycling bin.

nah even that's better in white -- his reassured smirk at knowing that there are people worse off than him.

I kinda feel like blue as a whole is kind of eye-rolly? could write the whole thing off like eh europeans are saddo classicals but for me you either go with the melodrama or not and I'm all in

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/sugar.jpg

I kinda feel like blue as a whole is kind of eye-rolly? could write the whole thing off like eh europeans are saddo classicals but for me you either go with the melodrama or not and I'm all in

― snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:49 AM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah this is all true and sometimes i am in too.

That's why I prefer Red.

A review at that time called Blue "an exquisite tone poem." Then added: "But movies aren't poems."

no movies are pineapples made of sound and images

The cinematography in Blue by Slawomir Idziak is just so great. Though perhaps it's even better in The Double Life of Veronique. The two other cinematographers aren't as good.

red is finally my favorite

can't believe i've never posted in this thread before

"buy a car! a new tv!" "what for? i never watch it. always the same crap. or... i could bury the money. put it in a little jar." "sure!" "that would be nice."

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, December 8, 2012

this scene is so fucking funny

this is not directly trilogy related but man Blind Chance absolutely rules. I really need to find a copy of No End as well

i saw no end at the momi a few years ago. not a great movie for a first date but still: wonderful, kind of like if blue were a ghost story

can anybody vouch for the movie he wrote but didn't direct? title escapes me rn

heaven. never seen it

nah it was this one, 'Big Animal' https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246593/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

thought about renting it but wasn't sure

oh huh there was one that wasn't heaven???

The only parts of Red for which I'll make allowances are the phone conversations with the boyfriend.

Otherwise my god Jean-Louis Trintignant.

Three Colours trilogy is on Amazon Prime at the moment, btw, in the UK at least.

I chose Red. I love how whenever the film threatens to get pompous life interrupts: light bulbs go out, local boys ("Turks," grumbles the building superintendent) put chewing gum in locks. And there's always Irene Jacob, drinking pear brandy and listening with the most beautiful concentration ever.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 20, 2011 3:02 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm

I know!

i think the film's construction is remarkable. all those echoes in the images and dialogue, from scene to scene practically; with a heavier touch they'd be unbearable, with a lighter touch they'd be invisible

a little nervous about this one still but https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2019/03/28/sonata-on-human-connection-red-1994/

lol i forgot i cannibalized my last post in this thread for a sentence in this piece

only got to this now but really wonderful piece, risk pays off imo

yeah White is the best one

hm!

White was certainly may fav back in the day, for the humor. Funny, I almost revisited Red last night, for the first time in 15yrs or so.

Blue was one of the first movies I went for when the pandemic hit, I think it has an amazing opening sequence and stays good but nothing lives up to that tunnel or the extreme close up of the eye... Ditto for opening of Red, which is also funnier than I remember. White is just the most consistent one imo, and it's hilarious, with the other two I find myself looking at the cinematography, sort of disengaged from the story.

like when he gets dumped out of the suitcase and looks up and says "I'M HOME!" and it's the most drab ugly looking patch of mud and snow with a bulldozer, and then cue the orchestra. lmao

xxp I watched Red last night and White the night before--I watched Blue all the way back in March and for whatever reason didn't feel compelled to rewatch, glad I did

xp i don't particularly like these films but this is for sure the best moment

red is stacked with amazing moments but i always enjoy hearing from white truthers

The Double life of Véronique was really beautiful! I hadn’t seen it before now. The metaphysical story that remained unexplained, the sense of a connection between lives, the music, use of color, cinematography were all incredible. And Irène Jacob