Fran Lebowitz: caustic wit or boring complainer?

i agree shes a idiot

1. Fran Lebowitz
2. Barbara Bush
3. Joan Rivers
4. Quaker Oats Guy
5. Leon Wieseltier

upcoming 92nd St Y panel discussion on men's style & the future of the internet w/ Joan and QOG via google hangout

I'm with Fran. Living in an age when every grossly obese girl/guy can walk around the neighborhood in yoga pants and Uggs because - "Hey! You're beautiful. OWN IT!" - there have to be limits. And dressing dogs - jeez. She's sharp.

And brio2 OTM re: her observations re: the cultural devastation of AIDS in the docu. Didn't she say something to the extent that it levelled the field (disastrously) and opened the way for *everyone* to be an "expert"?

Living in an age when every grossly obese girl/guy can walk around the neighborhood in yoga pants and Uggs because - "Hey! You're beautiful. OWN IT!" - there have to be limits.

fuck this nonsense

Come to NYC in summer, then. You'll love it.

No Uggs, but certainly flip flops all around.

I couldn't even tell if capitaine was being sarcastic cause ilx is generally not a place where people are complaining that overweight people are wearing clothes you don't want them to.

yes commentary about people dressing dogs, so sharp, so edgy. all her generational commentary is esp sad since she doesn't appear aware of how lucky she was to be born in a generation where you could turn bon mots about algebra and hipsters into an actual career rather than, idk, 30 twitter followers.

yes, the democratization of humor! no wonder nothing's funny.

that thing about the writer's stealing board made me lol cuz it is exactly how writing works

mainlanders are cute with their flipflop horror

also the boomers are prob the only people in history simultaneously capable of deluding themselves into thinking they are their children's best friends and of worrying that they shouldn't be

Several millennials I've met do say that their boomer parents are their best friends. Which I just do not get.

there's no cultural divide, boomers and millennials have a lot in common

Drugs

otm, the greatest generation never bragged about how good the owsley acid was, or biker speed, or quaaludes

neither do boomers who shouldn't be set out with the recyclables

Social Studies is really great. Builds on the first but shows evolution.

"I never imagined that I would live to see a day where people talked about television all the time. I’m astounded by the number of people who — do you realize how much TV you’re watching? Thousands of hours. Thousands of hours. And people now think it’s like a requirement. I have to go, I have 75 episodes of such and such I have to watch. I’m not saying these shows are not good, I’m just saying maybe if I was three years old and I imagined I had this amount of time ahead of me, I might start pursuing it."

http://www.wmagazine.com/story/fran-lebowitz-doesnt-have-a-cell-phone-but-knows-everything-that-happens-on-social-media-anyway

what a profoundly uninteresting woman

she is the greatest, always was, always will be

"Hamilton," probably, and it should have been the last thing anyone ever saw. I saw it on Broadway the night before it opened. Have you seen it? It is the only thing I have ever seen that was better than people said it was.

stopped reading

There are moments, such as on a recent-ish appearance on Bill Maher's show, where she's starting to sound a bit fogey-ish, but yeah, like 98% of the time she absolutely rocks.

this thread is the ONLY time i am ever reminded of fran lebowitz.

The last time I was reminded of her before this thread was bumped was when I saw her trotted out in the Candy Darling documentary to make casually transphobic remarks, but with an air of fogeyness more than of conscious malice.

I'm barely aware of her but she comes across as a sanctimonious boor in that interview

wkiw fran

Shakey doesn't like old Jewish lesbians who are voting for Clinton if they're delightfully obnoxious

(ie if they're one adjective up on him)

Would prefer they were funny, it's true

as with Monty Python's late work (eg Mr Creosote), i like vituperative, disgusted spleen just as much as belly laughs

same with Michael O'Donoghue and vintage NatLamp, Roseanne uncensored

love her

“You are a white person who is boring … you are deeply embarrassed by your complete lack of interesting qualities … humility is no substitute for a good personality … this will not change.”

The halfway point between Virginia Woolf and Travis Bickle.

I'm actually kind of surprised she liked Hamilton

i don't own a phone and i know next to nothing about hamilton and i'd like to keep it that way. i do own a computer though...

what is the last thing she actually wrote? like an essay or whatever.

http://cdn03.strandbooks.weblinc.com/images/products/partitioned/9/f/0/0679860525.1.zoom.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/09/13/t-magazine/13tmag-seventies-t-slide-M9RP-copy/13tmag-seventies-t-slide-M9RP-facebookJumbo.jpg

Legitimately confused as to whether that's Fran Lebowitz or Sandra Bernhard

the real star of that photo is the wallpaper

Her hilarious takedown of Bernie Sanders ("who leaves New York when they're 18 to go to Vermont?!") on this week's Real Time with Bill Maher was the most Fran Lebowitz thing ever.

haha

Uh, New Yorkers like Fran may think that New York is the omphalos of the world, unsurpassed by any place on earth. I'd guess that most of those New Yorkers are well-to-do, have nice living spaces they can easily afford and they feel their lives have a measure of big-city glamor. Many other people would find it loud, smelly, crowded and ugly compared to Vermont.

You're not a NYer are you

Yes. I share that distinction with 99.9% of the world's population.

lol

"Immigrants make the culture and tourists ruin it."

Great interview from Sydney Opera House:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvmRbq-5h-o

For me she is emblematic of a particular type of NYC bore, a person with nothing going for them other than being smart and an avid culture consumer, who thus either lacks the imagination or defensively refuses to acknowledge that there could be anything more to life than living in NYC and consuming culture.

like what?

posting obv

I like her Photos

Frannie Leibovwitz

to the first question "what did you have thought you would have done with your life" she answers, "well, i wanted to be a writer... and now I am" which begs some serious questions.