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My kids were watching that yesterday and the music choices seemed really good. Georgia, Chemical Brothers and Washed Out too.

groovypanda, Sunday, 10 November 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

Jed otm about the apparent current focus on aesthetics over storytelling. On my FB post production related feeds there's always constant swooning over this and that cinematographer being attached to a project or how - yeah, the film wasn't that good but the cinematography "killed". Yeesh.
Is there a correlation between that and the fact that most of these people are very young and seemingly share a pantheon of (not-cinematographers)Kubrick:Tarkovsky:Nolan:Villeneuve?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 10 November 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

Also the availability of drones for dramatic swooping aerial shots. That wasn’t possible 20 years ago.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 10 November 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

Kubrick:Tarkovsky:Nolan:Villeneuve

one of these things is not like the other

Number None, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

I'd say "none"!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

I can definitely see the crossover between Kubrick, Nolan and Villeneuve fanboys

I find it hard to believe they're out there stanning for Mirror though

Number None, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

Yeah it’s weird that the way a film looks and feels is a big part of what people like about this visual medium.

circa1916, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

“Storytelling” is fairly far down on the list as far as things I give a shit about in film.

circa1916, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

really! it's certainly in my top five! i can deal with non-narrative or fumbly narrative film but if you can't connect the dots to make an interesting story you damn well better sparkle in other ways.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 November 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

It isn’t unnecessary! I’m just thinking about most of my favorite films (like The Mirror mentioned right up there) and a good ripping plot is absolutely not a factor in what makes them great.

circa1916, Sunday, 10 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

it's still good storytelling though

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

i think the basically similar storytelling template of so many streaming era TV shows (even well-reviewed ones) is probably one reason i responded so strongly to Too Old To Die Young, which was primarily a largely plotless (after the story was set in motion it just drifted off with the current) visually and musically lush 900 minute ode to the seamier and emptier side of L.A. and some vv reprehensible people who occupy it. it was almost pure symbolism and metaphor by the end, so light on plot it could have been told in a midtempo-paced 110 min film.

omar little, Sunday, 10 November 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

ulysses, are you locked out of your TVchaos account? If so you have to look for them on facebook and send them a message with your email address and username and they'll give you a new passowrd.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link

I know it's my own fault but I think whether young filmmakers want to make mood pieces without caring about the subject (and they clearly do and clearly don't) is not a particularly interesting direction for this thread to go in. Where you place narrative or storytelling on a hierarchy is, I'm sure, interesting to someone somewhere but please take it elsewhere.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

Feel free to make a thread about it if you want to.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link

On my FB post production related feeds there's always constant swooning over this and that cinematographer being attached to a project or how - yeah, the film wasn't that good but the cinematography "killed". Yeesh.

This is the least-new phenomenon in film history.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

I was going to say, even by the time I got into film-as-film, Christopher Doyle stans were prevalent

mh, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

The very first film was just images of trains and waves, and it wasn't really because of the narrative that people went back. So yeah, it's the oldest idea in the book.

Frederik B, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

There's like this whole subset of crime-/murder-centric programming that my gf watches which basically serves as a background soundtrack to me doing other things. I'm as surprised as anyone that the show which increasingly caught my attention to the point where I'm now full-on watching it alongside her (and am now possibly more interested in than her) is How To Get Away With Murder. I mean, it's thoroughly ludicrous but also super addictive? It's basically a comic book, like some early-2000s cult favorite Vertigo crime title. And I'm pretty on board with the general theme of 'absolutely everyone involved in the American criminal justice system is or eventually mutates into an indefensible sociopath'. We've blasted through most of three seasons in no time so I guess I'm in for the long haul.

Frankie Four-Wigs (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

jed, i AM in fact. they're no longer allowing manual updates according to their new facebook post but maybe they're fixing the issue now?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

look at the fb post dated nov 3rd.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

yah but this morning's post includes the phrase "I am not doing manual resets ever again!!!!!"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

ah i see! ok

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

3 eps in and really digging season 2 of End of the World but... is it just me or is there just So Much Soundtrack (tbf very well-curated so not mad about it)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link

I watched the first episode of that Charli XCX show and...well, I will watch the rest of it.

tangenttangent, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

3 eps in and really digging season 2 of End of the World but... is it just me or is there just So Much Soundtrack (tbf very well-curated so not mad about it)


I said the same thing. There was a moment in the second episode when i turned to my wife and said “can we have like 1 moment without some great old-Timey song chiming in?”

Was introduced to a Nancy Wilson song I love and very happy to hear the excellent use of Scott Walkers the Sood Mans Back Again.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

dolemite is my name is awesome. i kept expecting rico to turn up and ask for a slightly bigger cut than the $10 moore gave him in the alley. he would have been justified in asking for it!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

s2 of the end of the fucking world is good, love both actors, but i agree, it really is more of a tone poem of cool songs than a coherent series this time around.

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link

very happy to hear the excellent use of Scott Walkers the Sood Mans Back Again.

I haven't heard this version.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

It’s great, it’s on Scott Sore.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link

will check it out! :)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link

Is Echo in the Canyon any good?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 November 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link

I've heard ... not really. My buddy told me of course there is some good stuff, but there is also a lot of Jakob Dylan or Fiona Apple performing songs of the era, which sounds unnecessary to me.

My buddy's other complaint was that it painted a really incomplete picture of that scene in service of the scene the makers wanted it to be. For example (and my friend is no fan of these two) there is apparently no really mention of Frank Zappa or Jim Morrison, both Canyon mainstays. I'll probably put it on when I'm assembling furniture or something.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link

no it's disappointing. first off, the covers as performed are across the board quite poor and just make you want to hear the originals. And yeah, it's really incomplete. There's a great story that exists about this period of music and these musicians but this really only brushes the surface.

akm, Friday, 22 November 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

the best part comes at the end during the credits when Neil Young shows up out of the blue and freaks out on guitar.

akm, Friday, 22 November 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

Ok, glad I asked, it didn't look great, but I was still intrigued

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 November 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link

Felt more like an EPK for Jakob Dylan and his pals than anything.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 22 November 2019 08:53 (four years ago) link

I liked some of the interview segments with mguinn and Crosby at least. But correct me not even a mention of Joni?

dan selzer, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

I think it’s best going in to expect that the movie is primarily about a tribute concert that Jakob Dylan et al put together to perform songs from the mid60s associated with Echo Canyon based bands. There is historical footage provided and interviews with the original artists but don’t expect much coverage of any artists that weren’t featured in the concert or didn’t participate for whatever reason. I thought it was fine for what it was.

o. nate, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

weird about Neil though...he's obv the elephant in the room as he's not interviewed but he's in the old Springfield footage and discussed a lot. I'm guessing he decided he didn't want to be interviewed at the last minute because he was pissed at Cosby for giving him a hard time about Daryl Hannah.

dan selzer, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

neil has the other best part in the movie, which is the archive footage of Buffalo Springfield doing 'for what it's worth' which transitions into Mr. Soul and the moment of that transition is fucking awesome. for whatever reason the only version of this on youtube that I found was in poor quality but here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V8VvEzuQ6Y

akm, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Um that should’ve read Crosby.

dan selzer, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

We watched Knight Before Christmas. It was really bad. Although Vanessa Hudgens had a lot of nice coats in it.

Yerac, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

Klaus was cute ifvyou need some holiday cheer

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link

Jeff Garlin’s special is fun and goes by fast.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 07:15 (four years ago) link

the Bikram doc was well made I thought

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

My yoga teacher was very disturbed by it!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

it is indeed disturbing

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

Just finished Unbelievable. Wow. I want Merritt Wever's Det Duvall to somehow be in charge of stuff in my life.
Shows based on real life are often so much more interesting than scripted stuff. Because you're not anticipating the next step in the plot formula. You can see how everything simmered together to let this happen. Plus, no-one would really write rape victims like Amber and the Druid girl (actually, you know what? Veronica Mars might).
The episode where Toni Collett is like 'WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE??' - yeah! This is how I feel all the time! It's pathetic that I'm grateful it's spelled out in a few minutes of a Netflix miniseries.

I'll read that article linked upthread.

kinder, Monday, 25 November 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link


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