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These are all from here: http://jgrimbert.free.fr/add2/advice/?order=id&debut=0 - an amazing compendium of the DM-advice column from early Dragon magazine

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:45 (nine years ago) link

‎"Although the Players Handbook does not include them in the description of the Raise Dead spell, may elves and half-orcs be raised from the dead?"

"No, they cannot. They do not have souls, and therefore a wish must be used to bring them back."

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:45 (nine years ago) link

"For the paladin to have tortured the orc was an evil act, and therefore he has given up the right to be a paladin. I suggest that he not be allowed to regain it, either, but if you decide to let him, make sure the quest is long, hard, and nearly impossible to accomplish."

(emphasis mine)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:46 (nine years ago) link

‎"May thieves use bows?"

"No."

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Q. Are player characters allowed to be drawn from Grey Elf stock or Drow stock?

A. Each DM must decide whether such unusual player-character types will be allowed in his/her campaign. In the case of unusual elf types, there should be a possibility for a player character to become any of the elf subspecies, including aquatic elves and wood elves. However, it should be apparent that life as a player character under such conditions would be hard — for the character, the player, and most of all the DM, who must be prepared to cope with the added responsibility of trying to incorporate such a “rare” character into the campaign without sacrificing its balance and flexibility.

Love is too short to tell your players they can't be freaking Grey Elves or Drows if they want to. You've got what? A few years of playing with your friends before the DM starts dating and the warrior needs to study for AP History? Just enjoy the time you had together!

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Life*!

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

great thread idea btw

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:48 (nine years ago) link

Why are elven thieves always children?

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:00 (nine years ago) link

Do real barbarians eat quiche?

Real barbarians would hack and slay anyone who offered them quiche to eat, and would then stomp the quiche until it was totally flat. Barbarians are like that.

Barbarians are like that!

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:03 (nine years ago) link

If PCs can become mystics, can they also become thugs or headsmen?

There are no rules for PC thugs or headsmen. You are free to develop your own, but we don’t recommend it.

I love this lukewarm vaudevillian snark. "We don't recommend it."

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:05 (nine years ago) link

What's kind of delightful to me is that all the actual *questions* are of the form "My level 45 elven fighter/mage/paladin just killed Asmodeus - how can I kill him again?" - there's a sort of good faith attempt at communication between the divided tribes of 15 and 35y/o geeks that'd be impossible to summon now I think!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:06 (nine years ago) link

How many hit points does a character regain when he eats his rations?

None. Characters have to eat to stay alive. Food provides sustenance but does not heal wounds.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:07 (nine years ago) link

OMG

Can a character turned to stone by a medusa ever be turned back?

A wish from an item or powerful spellcaster will restore a “stoned” character. Generally, however, petrification is removed by the sixth-level magic-user spell stone to flesh. It takes a magic-user of at least 12th level to cast this spell (see the Expert Set).

What an excellently formed weed joekz!

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:07 (nine years ago) link

ah, that brings back some great memories. I'd love a disc of quality scans of the first 150 Dragon magazines.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:08 (nine years ago) link

How many eggs do dragons lay in a single clutch? How much time passes between the laying of clutches?

This is not difficult to determine from information given on page 30 of the Monster Manual. Since any group of two or more dragons is a mated pair with young, the maximum number of eggs in a clutch is the maximum number of dragons appearing, minus two. Since most dragons appear in groups of one to four, most dragons lay one or two eggs. Faerie dragons, which appear in groups of up to six, lay up to four eggs. The minimum number of eggs laid is one. If one assumes that young dragons stay with their parents at least until they reach the subadult stage at 16 years, each clutch must be at least 16 years apart, since dragons would be found in larger groups if they laid eggs while rearing young.

This is not difficult to determine.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:09 (nine years ago) link

A question that needed to be asked...

How can you handle pregnancy in AD&D games?

This is one of those aspects of AD&D gaming that is left up to the DM’s decisions; all campaigns are different, and the elves (for example) within one campaign could legitimately have longer gestation periods than those in another campaign. As a general rule of thumb, it can probably be asserted that elves have the longest pregnancy times (possibly as much as 2 years); dwarves, gnomes, humans, halflings, and half-elves are all about the same, between 8 and 12 months, and orcs and humanoids would have shorter gestation periods, possible ranging down to 6 months. These are only suggestions, however; what the DM decides for his campaign is the final answer.

seandalai, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:18 (nine years ago) link

How does one make or acquire “elfin chainmail”?

Elfin chainmail is a special type of chainmail armor that is much lighter and stronger than normal, and allows greater freedom of movement. It is made exclusively by elven armorsmiths of above average ability, who keep certain aspects of its manufacture secret for a number of reasons. Even were its manufacturing process better known, duplicating elfin armor would prove very difficult for most armorers. What little is known about making elfin chainmail is that the links of the chainmail are much thinner and smaller in diameter than usual. The metal from which elfin chainmail is made is apparently an alloy of high-quality steel and mithral, a rare and valuable metal of bright silvery color. In the process of making the alloy, the elven smiths add a special substance to the molten mixture to cause the metal to be harder; the nature of this substance has never been identified, since it is either completely absorbed into the metal in the smelting process, or somehow destroyed. Not even magical devices appear to be able to determine the nature of this substance. At any rate, the presence or after-effects of this substance also make the alloy impervious to enchantment, no matter how powerful the spell. Elfin chainmail is linked together in an exceptionally intricate fashion; the pattern of the interconnections of links changes from place to place across the armor, so that certain general designs may appear. One suit might seem to have a tree-like design on the chest, another might have an abstract pattern of criss-crossed lines, another might have sunburst designs on front and back. The intricacy of the links is another reason (aside from the nature of the alloy itself) for the armor’s strength. It appears that only elves, because of their passion for complexity and appreciation of artistic beauty, are able to properly fashion the armor in this way. It takes twice as long as normal to make a suit of elfin chainmail (90 days instead of 45), and may take even longer than that if the maker desires a particularly complex design for linking it together. Only 25% of all elven smiths are able to fashion elfin chainmail, the rest being occupied with making other sorts of armor (ring mail, scale mail, etc.) or being of lesser ability. Making elfin chainmail requires the full involvement of the smith and many years of study as well; player character elves, even those with exceptional characteristics and backgrounds as smiths or armorers, are not able to make elfin chainmail though they could make some minor repairs on it if necessary. Player character elves could, however, obtain such armor as a gift for extraordinary services rendered for the elven people; it is considered a great honor to have a suit of mail made, and some elves who own magical but human-made chainmail will prefer to use elfin chainmail instead. Dungeon Masters who like to start out characters with some minor magical item could offer elven characters an elfin chainmail suit instead, though evil elves would not be able to receive this benefit. Non-elves are not given elfin chainmail by longestablished tradition, and it is never sold. Elves regard it as an artistic treasure as well as an expression of appreciation and distinction; selling it would cheapen its social and cultural value. Most non-elves are not able to wear elfin chainmail anyway, since they do not have the proper build and size to fit an already made suit, though some thin and light humans and a few large tallfellow halflings might possibly be able to fit into it. Elves would not appreciate seeing a non-elf wearing elfin chainmail, however, and might believe the wearer got it by killing or robbing the previous owner. Elfin chainmail weighs about 15 pounds, allows movement at normal speed (up to 12”), and is regarded as non-bulky; its weight is very evenly distributed over the body and limbs. A thin layer of underpadding is required, usually made of tough but soft materials carefully woven to permit free movement and good ventilation. Special small helms are usually worn with it, and these take about a week each to make properly (including decorations, engravings, and so forth).

I love this one because all there is to base this on is a short, mostly numerical description in the book, & yet the writer is trying to build this into a full-out description. Yet he doesn't end up saying anything that goes beyond the short description.

Euler, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:22 (nine years ago) link

this thread is so useful & awesome to me you have no idea.

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Oh the flashbacks this all causes...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 00:14 (nine years ago) link

from last night?

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 00:15 (nine years ago) link

currently playing Baldur's Gate (2.5 or somesuch of the AD&D rules) so timely thread

also I was a Dungeon Master back then and well, it always ended in arguments and recrimininations

browns zero loss (brownie), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 00:16 (nine years ago) link

xpost -- :-D

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 00:22 (nine years ago) link

so many flashbacks

I have mentioned this on Noize Board but from 1980-84 I worked for & played with the crew from Iron Crown Enterprises, RPGs were my life back then. Went to Origins, Gencon, all that stuff. Chivalry & Sorcery TOURNAMENTS!

I think I remember that pregnancy letter.

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:08 (nine years ago) link

great thread

When an offensive spell’s range is “touch,” does the touch have to be with a hand?

Yes.

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:34 (nine years ago) link

"For the paladin to have tortured the orc was an evil act"
this answer really needs the question, which I very much want someone to send to dan savage:

'In our town of Terre Haute, there is an eighthlevel paladin that has a favorite saying, “Repent or Die.” On one occasion he pulled back the arm of a captured orc, placed a Ring of regeneration on his finger and then ripped his face off. When the orc’s face healed, he would do it again. He says he has a valid right to do this, because torture was very much a part of the inquisition and he is saving the orc’s soul.'

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:36 (nine years ago) link

#52 What happens when a Resurrection or a Raise Dead is cast on an undead?

Hmmm. It stands to reason that undead can be resurrected, as long as their living bodies had souls. But according to the spell description for Resurrection, a cleric can resurrect the “bones” of a dead body — that is, there must be some part of the body available for the cleric to touch for the process of resurrection to take place. Any undead which is encountered in an immaterial, gaseous or ethereal form could not be resurrected, because there’s nothing for the cleric to lay his hands on — even if he dared to touch one. An undead creature which is corporeal, and especially one which has retained at least a vestige of the appearance it had in life, could conceivably be resurrected with a touch — again, if the cleric is willing and able to withstand the effects of that touch. It’s worth noting here that a cleric who casts Resurrection is incapacitated for at least one day afterward, during which time the cleric cannot engage in combat or spell-casting. Unless some means is at hand to control the resurrected creature and save the cleric’s skin, he’s going to be in a lot of trouble after the spell is cast. A further guideline on the subject is found in the Monster Manual in the description for ghouls. A human who is killed by a ghoul will himself become a ghoul., unless a Bless spell is cast upon the corpse (in which case the victim is simply dead). The corpse could then be resurrected — after being blessed. Logically, the same procedure — bless first, raise later — could be required for an attempt to resurrect any undead creature. Depending on the DM’s interpretation of “touch,” it might be possible for a cleric to lay hands on, for instance, the immobilized body of a vampire without suffering the loss of 2 life energy levels which accompanies a vampire’s hit on a victim. (Since the vampire isn’t doing the “hitting” or “touching,” he can’t do any damage.) But what about the mummy? Its touch “inflicts a rotting disease on any hit,” but it’s logical to assume that anyone who initiates contact with a mummy would also be subject to the disease. Since each type of undead is at least slightly different from each other type, there are no general rules which can apply. Whether or not to require a Bless spell, whether or not to assess damage upon a “touch,” and any other particular questions are left to the DM’s discretion. Raise Dead is a different matter entirely. The spell description pretty well covers it: The vital parts of the body must be present, which rules out skeletons and any non-corporeal undead, and the undead creature must have been in a non-alive state for a length of time which does not exceed the limit of the spell’s power. The Monster Manual gives specifics for some cases: spectres, wights and wraiths will be destroyed by a Raise Dead spell (unless they make a save vs. magic), and a mummy can be resurrected by casting Cure Disease followed by Raise Dead. If a Bless is required before a Resurrection attempt can be successful, the blessing need not also be required for a Raise Dead attempt, because the soul hasn’t been away from the body as long and the newly created undead hasn’t fallen entirely into the clutches of eviltry.

but what about the mummy?

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:44 (nine years ago) link

there are no general rules which can apply.

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 04:26 (nine years ago) link

This thread = best thing about today

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 04:27 (nine years ago) link

this thread kind of confirms every suspicion i had about those d&d playing dudes in the school cafeteria.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 04:46 (nine years ago) link

Usual Sunday Catan group is getting burned out on the same game over and over (esp. because six player games aren't as fun as the smaller board somehow) so we bought the basic D&D rules box set - but no one will volunteer to read them and figure out WTF to do.

I wish I had my old Battletech figures. Wargaming with giant robots and lasers - that's the right way to nerd out.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 04:54 (nine years ago) link

Reading these D&D Q&As gives me the same deep satisfaction that simply paging through the Dungeon Master's Guide does, the pleasure of a calm, unrelenting delineation of the fantastic.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:01 (nine years ago) link

god, i spent a good two or three years of my life puzzling over questions like this. still have pages of elaborate notes somewhere.

and f. OTM (and so nicely said). love fantastical guidebooks of any sort for the same reason. barlowe's guide to extraterrestrials, etc.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:12 (nine years ago) link

f. hazel OTM, that was meant to say...

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:12 (nine years ago) link

A further guideline on the subject is found in the Monster Manual in the description for ghouls.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Talmud.jpg

bike chain dust? (lukas), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:54 (nine years ago) link

oh man, Barlowe's Guide To Extraterrestrials was the best!

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:06 (nine years ago) link

still waiting on thype...

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:13 (nine years ago) link

I have mentioned this on Noize Board but from 1980-84 I worked for & played with the crew from Iron Crown Enterprises, RPGs were my life back then. Went to Origins, Gencon, all that stuff. Chivalry & Sorcery TOURNAMENTS!

oh man I would LOVE to know more about this!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 08:50 (nine years ago) link

Reading these D&D Q&As gives me the same deep satisfaction that simply paging through the Dungeon Master's Guide does, the pleasure of a calm, unrelenting delineation of the fantastic.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:01 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Yes! When I used to roleplay I pretty much preferred reading the sourcebooks to actually playing.

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 09:32 (nine years ago) link

Each of these questions betrays so clearly the bickering that prompted it.

calumerio, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 10:32 (nine years ago) link

xp it's the stress free memorisation of knowledge that ha no real life purpose. Completely opposite to the high stress of having to memorise stuff from a math/CS textbook for an exam.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 10:42 (nine years ago) link

the pleasure of a calm, unrelenting delineation of the fantastic.

It reminds me a little of Christian extremists' long logistical extrapolations about the science behind the flood

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:52 (nine years ago) link

In ADVANCED DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS, how much damage do bows do?

None. Bows do not do damage, arrows do. However, if you hit someone with a bow, I’d say it would probably do 1-4 points of damage and thereafter render the bow completely useless for firing arrows. What the bows do is allow a greater variety of ranges; all the damage done by arrows is the same

lol @ bows dont kill ppl, arrows do.

c (Lamp), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:58 (nine years ago) link

all the damage done by arrows is the same

This is a bit bullshitty really, pretty sure a longbow has greater penetration than a short bow irl

PRRd Flu: The Mixtape (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:00 (nine years ago) link

also a p big lapse to ignore the increased damage done by magic arrows

Lamp, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:06 (nine years ago) link

Surprised nobody's gone in on the o_O that is "elves have no souls" yet. Sounds like some kind of segregationist propaganda to me.

Ain't Too Proud to Neg (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:08 (nine years ago) link

That's a standard fantasy trope isn't it?

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:09 (nine years ago) link

If you caught a newly hatched silver dragon and raised it, would it have your alignment or its mother’s alignment?

It would retain the alignment of its parents, since that is what its natural tendencies

nature vs nurture debate now closed

Lamp, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:14 (nine years ago) link

played ad&d loads when i was younger, it always ended in fights and arguments. the dms in my experience would always end up picking on whoever was messing and not taking it seriously. then in time magic: the gathering just utterly murdered our will to ever play role playing games (or do anything else) ever again.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:22 (nine years ago) link

also played call of cthulu rpg which was brilliant, though v difficult, and i think a warhammer rpg too, which was cool. naming the characters etc was always the best.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:23 (nine years ago) link

I played a lot of D&D-derived computer RPGs back in the late 90s and early 00s (Baldur's Gate I & II, Icewind Dale I & II, Planescape: Torment, Neverwinter Nights I & II) and never really felt the urge to try tabletop, mostly because I prefer single-player games.

pomenitul, Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:33 (six months ago) link

I know she gets a huge kick out of staying up with the adults.

this was a huge perk when my dad was taking me to the HSS and ICE sessions during middle school, we stayed up hella late

sleeve, Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:36 (six months ago) link

I remember our parents being deeply suspicious of our dungeon master who was in his mid-20s when we were all like 13-15, but in retrospect he was in fact just a dude who loved tabletop gaming and we were enthusiastic players it was easy to schedule gaming sessions with.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:44 (six months ago) link

adults hanging out w teenagers in a social setting is always going to look suspicious, and for good reason

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:58 (six months ago) link

Then we got to see the first year when Magic: The Gathering was the new sensation, and the following year when it had completely taken over the convention (and our hangouts).

Ha, legendary! I remember reading about that Gen Con in a magazine a few months later and it was the first time I heard of MtG. We got started in the early stages.

Yeah, these days things would be very different wrt kids and older players.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:10 (six months ago) link

Ah, yes, Magic was the closest I got to real world gaming experience, back when they released the basic version of it, Portal. I managed to organize a little tournament with the few nerds in my school, with the prize being the large sized cards that were made to promote some expansion (Weatherlight, I think). Don't recall where I got them, probably InQuest magazine, my pre-internet source for any gaming news. Sadly, that was not the gateway drug to RPGs I hoped it would be. (Though probably doomed to fail anyway; I can hardly understand why I thought I could get a bunch of 8th graders into something as esoteric as a Mage or Ars Magica game!)

blatherskite, Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:21 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

there is currently a moderately interesting doc on the history of D&D art on Amazon Prime, a pretty deep dive into specific artists and styles, history of TSR etc. The woman who's tried to plastic surgery herself into an actual elf is a bit much though.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:58 (three months ago) link

Vin Diesel taught Judi Dench how to play Dungeons & Dragons on the set of THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK and she went on to become DM for her grandchildren https://t.co/k5mdwB9cAf

— Ben Mekler (@benmekler) November 13, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:40 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Hey y’all.
No time to write an article about my personal history with d&d but my question for you all is — do you fuck with retro-clones or other old-school style RPG’s? Talking about thinks like White Box (clones original d&d) and Basic Fantasy (clones the Basic/Expert rules) and OSRIC (clones first edition AD&D) which seek to re-edit/re-organize various old rules systems and make them easier to understand and play for modern gamers.

I’ve picked up a few of these games as physical print-on-demand books and many are available for free as pdf’s. There are loads of these games.: some seek to clone old editions of the game, some mix & match, and some use modern mechanics (ascending AC for example). I’m hoping to find some folks to play with sooner or later. I do play a 5e game with friends but I’m kind of into visiting a world where clerics don’t get any spells at first level, all weapons do d6 damage and there’s much less to keep track of.

ian, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:21 (one month ago) link

I do what's easiest for the people I'm playing, ie what's most widely available which at this point means 5th edition.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:24 (one month ago) link

Well that’s half the point of these games is the accessibility— the basic fantasy books are sold at cost, and many games are available digitally for free too. Whereas the 5e players guide is $50. And the other half of the point is wanting to post something simpler and more open than 5e where everyone is a superhero by 3rd or 4th level. The austerity is the appeal to me, too.

ian, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:36 (one month ago) link

This is 100% me retreating from the brutal reality of our present moment.

ian, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:37 (one month ago) link

https://goodman-games.com/dungeon-crawl-classics-rpg/

djdirtbagstyle, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:45 (one month ago) link

I’ve looked into DCC — a fella I follow on Instagram plays it and reps it pretty hard. The weird necessity if buying extra dice sets is annoying, and there’s something about the vibe that isn’t quite there for me. Too gonzo? Idk. I did pick up the cheap quick start booklet but after looking through it, it didn’t seem quite what I was looking for.

ian, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:50 (one month ago) link

whenever i want to do something homebrew i look at GURPs but it's so dense at this pt it fails what i need from a system which is almost zero fiddliness and just a couple of easy mechanics for storytelling. but maybe you'd find it useful?

Mordy, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:59 (one month ago) link

I’m not even particularly looking to make an exciting homebrew system, I just want to play something sandboxy that makes me feel the way I did when I was 12. I’m pretty fascinated by the genre of games though.

ian, Friday, 31 January 2020 18:03 (one month ago) link

oh i think i can help you bc i have been playing loads of tt roleplaying games over the last decadeish trying to recapture the way i felt when i was 12 and despite lots of cool stuff being out there i am happy to report that feeling is ephemeral and tied directly to the powerlessness, imagination, time, and friendship that was only available at 12yo, it can never be recaptured alas.

Mordy, Friday, 31 January 2020 18:05 (one month ago) link

5e is fun enough tho. i get together with mostly dads once a week to play for about 3 hours. it really is nothing like when we were all 12 and could play long afternoons of shadowrun or star wars or cyberpunk 2020 or 2nd edition but it still has its pleasures and feels prosocial.

Mordy, Friday, 31 January 2020 18:06 (one month ago) link

oh i think i can help you bc i have been playing loads of tt roleplaying games over the last decadeish trying to recapture the way i felt when i was 12 and despite lots of cool stuff being out there i am happy to report that feeling is ephemeral and tied directly to the powerlessness, imagination, time, and friendship that was only available at 12yo, it can never be recaptured alas.

― Mordy, Friday, January 31, 2020 10:05 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

important post

that said I wrote a game some years ago trying to recapture the feeling of being 13 years old at a synagogue sleepover, maybe y'all can give it a try

http://jklol.net/grace.html

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:13 (one month ago) link

silby i don't know if i could ever find a good group for playing that (or one i felt comfortable enough with to do so) but i would be curious to hear about yr playtests of it and any other playthrough reports you may have??

Mordy, Friday, 31 January 2020 18:15 (one month ago) link

It’s been years since I actually played but I had a nice time doing it and at least one group in the world with nothing to do with me has played it, might be able to find their play report…

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:29 (one month ago) link

oh and we actually discussed it on story-games when I first wrote it http://story-games.com/forums/discussion/16033/x

I was much closer to being a teenager then…

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:37 (one month ago) link

I got given the slipcase version of Art & Arcana for Christmas and the early stuff looks amazing in it.

Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Friday, 31 January 2020 18:56 (one month ago) link

DCC was the most fun i've had since ad&d second edition

adam, Friday, 31 January 2020 19:17 (one month ago) link

I played Dread with some old college friends, and our first scene (before the horror started) captured what I think your Grace players felt from their play through: there was a surprising catharsis in role playing the real insecurities and conflicts of our younger selves through the lens of the game. It helped me treat my younger self with empathy—a salve I didn’t know I didn’t have. I’m wondering if it would be nice to find a group to play Grace, and double down on role play as a catalyst for healing.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:01 (three weeks ago) link

If you do please post about it! Nothing would warm my heart more

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:33 (three weeks ago) link

has anybody read any of appelcline's books on the development of d&d? thoughts?

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Sunday, 9 February 2020 20:06 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

roll em up everybody

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:39 (five days ago) link

"I kick the pagan with my Boots of the Gospel of Peace, aiming for his head"

avellano medio Inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:40 (five days ago) link

What Dice Would Jesus Roll

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 February 2020 19:43 (five days ago) link

three sided, duh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:44 (five days ago) link

the enduring Christian qualities of Faith, Hope, and Quiet Movement

avellano medio Inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:47 (five days ago) link

dampening dragons' spirits brb

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 February 2020 20:00 (five days ago) link

Oh god. This looks like shit they would have at the Christian bookstore my parents would take me to as a kid. I think the store was called Agape, which in retrospect is lol.

Now I am remembering when I had to do a project for bible class in the low-rent private Christian school our church effectively ran (one step from homeschooling). I waited until the last minute and half-assed it, and my Mom got angry and wouldn't let me hand in what I did. So she helped me put together a poster about "putting on the full armor of God" from Romans or something. "Breastplate of righteousness" my ass.

Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:22 (five days ago) link

somehow I have never seen this although it came out m/l in my peak RPG phase

sleeve, Monday, 24 February 2020 20:30 (five days ago) link

Resist Torture?

Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:31 (five days ago) link

Kinky.

Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:31 (five days ago) link

totally

sleeve, Monday, 24 February 2020 20:32 (five days ago) link

it's no Bunnies and Burrows

avellano medio Inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:38 (five days ago) link

https://lightraiders.com/dragonraid-2nd-ed/

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 February 2020 20:45 (five days ago) link

Please remember that DragonRaid is not just a fun game, it is intended as a serious discipleship system for teenagers (and adults who still have teen-aged hearts). Though the system used as an ordinary roleplaying game (RPG), it is much harder to teach the players how to be more Christ-like, which is the goal of the DragonRaid system. While some of the material presented here is more game-mechanics oriented, that is not intended to be an endorsement of RPG-only play.

Translation: If you RPG without Jesus, you are going to hell.

Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:34 (five days ago) link

they're not wrong, many of the kids I played D&D with ended up stranded on one of the outer planes

avellano medio Inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:59 (five days ago) link

there is no way i would game with christ, dude is too much of a powergamer

"uh, i shoot a flaming sword out of my mouth and instantly destroy all evil forever"
"sigh. roll for initiative."
"i don't have to roll for initiative, the flaming sword is a free action"
"jesus, is this on your character sheet?"
"yeah, check it out here"
"this says 'and there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of jesse'. what does that have to do with flaming swords?"
"uh, it's a PARABLE, duh! i'm 'jesse', the stem is my mouth, and the 'rod' is a flaming sword that destroys all evil forever."

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:14 (five days ago) link

lmao

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 February 2020 23:17 (five days ago) link

That is very good.

Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:46 (four days ago) link

amazing stuff

latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 02:19 (four days ago) link


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