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like, try thinking for a second that there's at least one black person around here that you guys haven't chased off yet before you post this shit

who do you imagine you're speaking for, or to?

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

let's just lock this thread and be done w/it

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

Is the Post guy revealing the word one letter at a time, Wheel of Fortune style?

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

that "escalating game of moral one-upsmanship" is in your head. you may imagine that it's what motivates others, but ultimately you have no way of knowing. i see the posting of racist shit in this thread as reportorial, and yes, not without a moral component, but there's nothing wrong with that, imo.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

deadspin wants everyone to know that this is in fact racist
http://deadspin.com/5907754/oh-look-phil-mushnick-wrote-something-racist

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Don't lock the thread just because people can't figure out what there's a question mark in the original question and that repeating racism ad hoc to get "get a load of this!" reaction is nagl.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

― del griffith, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean i don't mean to hijack your point to make a somewhat tangential point or misrepresent what you were saying, there's definitely that too (xpost)

no, your point is valid and part of where I'm coming from; the reason it's being expressed is because of my self-quote expressing a breaking point in tolerance for this shit

that "escalating game of moral one-upsmanship" is in your head. you may imagine that it's what motivates others, but ultimately you have no way of knowing. i see the posting of racist shit in this thread as reportorial, and yes, not without a moral component, but there's nothing wrong with that, imo.

okay lol, thank you socialist daughter from Native Son for explaining to me how I, as a black person, should respond to a thread that started out as a conversation about ambiguity in racism and quickly turned into "Hey, this is racist! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this! And so is this!" etc etc etc

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

"this is how I feel about this"
"oh no, you're confused; THIS is how you should feel about this"
"thank you! finally a white person explains to me how I should engage with racism *sets down heavy load*"

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean it'd be one thing if we were talking about one or two things worthy of discussion every couple weeks, but this thread has just become a daily fountain of garbage. i picture people browing comments sections and excitedly pulling up the bookmark to this thread to cut-and-paste.

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

*jumps out of thread*
*deploys parachute*

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

I predict that this is going to end well

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

*browsing

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

contenderizer perhaps consider taking a break from this thread

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, at least the NRO thread has the context of "this is the line of thought in a prominent segment of our political sphere"; this is just "oh hey, here's something else horrible and demeaning to non-white people, let's post it and cluck our tongues"

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

this is the 4th largest newspaper in the country and 'lots of people on the internet talking about it' increases the chance of him losing his job

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not calling myself a hero,

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

elvis was a hero to most

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

talking about it' increases the chance of him losing his job

Are you guys still talking about the Post? It might help him keep his job from what I've seen about in that soi-disant newspaper.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

LOfuckingL if anyone believes that "talking" about someone racist (who works for Rupert Murdoch) in this ILX thread is going to have one goddam thing to do with whether or not he keeps his job.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

my comment ruled

del griffith, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

4th largest newspaper --- does that mean I should start spitting up screen captures from the No. 1 cable news network every time they report something racisty?

Maybe I should, but it would definitely belong in a completely different thread.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

okay, i give. i accept that the accumulation of racist bullshit - and the accompanying gasps of polite horror - are troubling. if i've behaved offensively, i apologize. it's just hard to know how to parse this shit sometimes.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

okay lol, thank you socialist daughter from Native Son for explaining to me how I, as a black person, should respond to a thread that started out as a conversation about ambiguity in racism and quickly turned into "Hey, this is racist! And so is this! And so is this!

i honestly didn't intend to tell you how you should or shouldn't feel. just how i feel, that i don't view other people's motives in the same way that you do. but i don't think i've been thinking or expressing myself terribly well here, so i sincerely apologize for the approach i've taken in this discussion.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

yes I've said like 3 times 'sorry wrong thread' I don't think this story is 'not worth talking about' but at this point I definitely don't think this story is worth talking about wtg ilx xp

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Yes. All Spaniards are racist.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Their starches are also much cleaner and long-lasting.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

this was the thread I was most interested in when i asked about the longest threads on ilx yesterday. it is constantly at the top of sna and i'm always clicking on it just because it's always RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF MY FACE and about half the time I'll bookmark it purely out of bookmarking habit and then FUCK there it is I'm reading it again (and participating in it).

one of the things I liked the least about ethan is how he'd bring the subject of racism into so many threads all the time (in my perception at the time at least). Like that was my chief beef with the dude and nowadays it's like ilx's #1 passtime.

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

The thing I find amusing (perhaps not the exact adjective) about the Klan uniforms was that these troglodyte racists screaming about American liberties were, like many of their fellow 19th century Americans, getting together for the zany ceremonies of the Brotherhood of Odd Knights or whatever and aping European confraternities like the Nazarenos, burning crosses (I'm sure Jesus digs that) and calling each other 'knight' and 'wizard' all in the name of Washington and Jefferson and Lee and Jesus. I have this feeling they weren't all that bright.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

All that said, Michael, I still wish this guy was a klansman and not a Semana Santa participant.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Site is blocked. :(

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

the spirit of this thread HAS been corrupted but i do think it's better to have a clearinghouse for all things that people want to go "hey, this is really racist!" about instead of having separate threads

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

should i start sharing racist jokes then? you all can confirm for me that they're racist.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

xp probably true. but i definitely agree with the sentiment that people should stop posting obviously racist stuff. i probably said this like 100 posts ago and forgot about it.

Nhex, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

you all

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

have we figured out racism yet

crüt, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

Sure! It's just this simple:

http://fusionanomaly.net/mcescherdayandnight.jpg

Aimless, Saturday, 5 May 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

Black Studies, Part 2: A Response to Critics http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/black-studies-part-2-a-response-to-critics/46401
stopped reading after "I was never a big fan of the feminist mantra that the “personal is political.”"

superpussy, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

superpussy, the Chronicle of Higher Ed stuff was brought up in this thread two days ago.

I encourage you to read the last 36 hours or so of this thread starting here - rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

whoops, sorry.

superpussy, Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link

what pplains is trying to say is that we'll take the soup.

Three Word Username, Saturday, 5 May 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link

have we figured out racism yet

not if my posting today is any indication

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 5 May 2012 06:28 (eleven years ago) link

Inspired by traditional Indian madras, our designers recast this classic pattern in summer-worthy hues so it's brighter—and better—than ever

read this as "our designers are racist", spending too much time on ilx

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2012 07:48 (eleven years ago) link

the spirit of this thread HAS been corrupted but i do think it's better to have a clearinghouse for all things that people want to go "hey, this is really racist!" about instead of having separate threads

― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, May 4, 2012 5:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah but i think we are or should be taking a good hard look at the impulse to post "hey, this is really racist!" things all the time even if it was on an 'appropriate' thread. like sure, when someone really famous says something really hateful, there's gonna be an ilx thread about it, obviously. but after a while the mountain of minutiae kind of becomes "hey another guy on the internet said the n-word, check this out guys" and i think DJP has a good point about why that's a pretty terrible habit to form.

some dude, Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

DJP has such a booming post that i'm getting aftershocks

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

so my roommate moved in w/ a copy of "just busted news" that he picked up in tennessee

https://www.facebook.com/JustBusted

let me know if anyone wants photos

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link


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