It would make sense but not really.
― pplains, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
the KKK are against martial arts-mixing iirc
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
fun fact boondocks started out in my campus newspaper and macgruder is probably in our top 3 coolest alumni. and i just learned that liberty meadows started there too! that was my favorite comic as a kid.
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
"Now just hold on, Jeb! You can't start with a wushu stance and move to a tae-kwon-do form in the same round together. Use yer goddam head, boy!"
― pplains, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I give MacGruder bonus points because he's one of like 5 famous people from my hometown.
― beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
It's not even MMA, it's these stupid second-tier brands sold alongside Affliction & Tapout shirts. Is someone who wears a Metal Mulisha shirt a secret white supremacist, or do I just assume anyone who supports even a fake fashion [sic] 'mulisha' is a secret white supremacist because of my associations w/the word "militia" from growing up in Idaho in the '80s and '90s?
― dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
ikwym i don't really like rap music dunno why
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby)
???
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
beachville do we have the same hometown and what HS did you go to
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hammond High '96.
― beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqWxGMqI_SE&feature=player_embedded
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
o hey i graduated hammond ten years later
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
I think I beat your school's quiz bowl team a few times in HS.
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
not surprising!
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Huh. so are you from King's Contrivance?
― beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
yes, and we eat there every mother's day.
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, my folks still live out there. I take my family to visit them once a month or so.
― beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
aw, that's so racist
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
jeez, not sure it's necessary to personalize this in such aggressive terms (said to both of you). wasn't trying to say that no one has a right to be offended, just that i don't perceive clear evidence of racist intent on the reporter's part. maybe, maybe not, and i'm inclined to presume innocence in such cases. that's just me, though. i fully expect others to read things differently...
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
asian americans have said, loudly and unambiguously, that it was a racist remark. I don't understand where there's room for your interpretation or why you keep on pressing the point?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
super late to this but 'what about his eyes": Greg Kelly's employment is almost entirely based on him regularly saying the most wtf/facepalm things...he's clip regular on The Soup, fwiw
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
def racist
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
File under "yes, this is really fucking racist and sexist":
Dave Mustaine to African women: "Put a plug in it."
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
am i too late to get in on the southern maryland talk w/ zach and beachville?
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
if we limit discussion to american history x we can cover both racism and edward norton
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:15 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
people have a right to take offense at whatever they want, and in this case they have every reason to do so. i don't dispute that. all i've been talking about is intent. i don't see any clear evidence of racist intent on the guy's part (as opposed to taco mayor, who clearly intended the slur). that doesn't necessarily excuse the news dork or deny anybody the right to consider his remark racist regardless of intent.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
..............................
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
so everybody's required to be a mindreader now? or people have to hold up giant signs that say "I AM INTENDING TO BE RACIST?" what is this magical 'intent test' that must be satisfied? why the fuck am I even arguing with you on this absurd point?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
also weird when you're like ISN'T IT MORE RACIST TO THINK THAT THIS RACIST THING IS RACIST
― max, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:04 (twelve years ago) link
well tbf it's equally as racist, just reversed
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
racist manslaughter vs racist homicide
― pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think we've already established that I'm the racist here, which contenderizer helpfully pointed out
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
lol u did like ghettohikes
― buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
ok, here's what i don't understand: if you're contenderizer and you just started a big thread about how you feel pained about how ppl perceive you on ilx, and then this comes up, and you suggest that maybe it isn't racist, and then ppl say, no it is, what are you hoping to get out of persisting? like, why does a contenderizer care enough about whether this off-color remark about a basketball player for the NY Knicks is racist or not to persist arguing about it?
― Mordy, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah and I feel shitty about it and have felt shitty about it ever since. I apologize for ever liking ghettohikes!
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
I'm 28. I have a full time job leading urban kids to watch Jeremy Lin play hoops. I simply write down shit they say.
― buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:46 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark
gah, this wasn't even my thing! i didn't bring the argument in question into the thread. other people were already talking about the dude's intent. seeing that, said that i don't think the guy intended a slur. i wasn't trying to make a big deal out of it or anything.
at this point, you, dayo, decided to take me to task, saying that i was denying people's right to take offense. i responded to that, and you've been bashing me hard ever since.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
if you're contenderizer and you just started a big thread about how you feel pained about how ppl perceive you on ilx, and then this comes up, and you suggest that maybe it isn't racist, and then ppl say, no it is, what are you hoping to get out of persisting? like, why does a contenderizer care enough about whether this off-color remark about a basketball player for the NY Knicks is racist or not to persist arguing about it?
dude, i'm just talking in a thread. i've been subtly and directly accused of racism by several people here, it sort of makes sense for me to at least try and clarify where i'm coming from, imo.
in ironic light of that, i'm truly sorry that i accused you of racism, dayo. thought i wasn't really serious, it was a thoughtless and fucked-up way to make my point (that it's perhaps a little weird to automatically assume that a reference to an asian person's eyes must be a racist invocation of supposed difference).
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
trust me dude, your point is not so subtle that you need to clarify where you're coming from.
― Mordy, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
so you think your point is still valid, then?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
well, yes and no. i do think that it's worthwhile to at least consider intent, to the limited extent that we can ever know it. nevertheless, i was wrong to minimize the offense, to say that it wasn't racism. i was underestimating the power and pervasiveness of the stereotype.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
the power and pervasiveness of racism, not to put too fine a point on it
your point is not so subtle that you need to clarify where you're coming from.
yeah, i know. still, you have to kind of expect people to defend themselves when challenged.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
What if he's expressing his racist thoughts but doesn't know it/is unaware of them? Are we supposed to tolerate that?
― lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
What I mean is: just because you're not consciously aware of being a racist doesn't mean you're not a racist. Re, the news person
― lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
Also lin's not that hot idk
― lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
well he sure did turn the ball over a lot tonightso i no longer like any asians ever
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
condz this isn't me coming at you this is me saying "if a person of color says he is offended by a remark it is not really your place to roll in and say 'no no your feelings are invalid'"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 February 2012 06:42 (twelve years ago) link
"that punch in the face hurt like hell"
"but he didn't mean to hit you"
"that does not make my face not hurt"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 February 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
We have not and will not flag your post and you're free to take your opinions elsewhere. I'd rather not call the mods, but if you insist on continuing to disturb our posters I will. Please leave.
― buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
wtf, that's just obnoxious from the other end. no one needs to be threatened by self-appointed ilx posse spokespeople. plz don't speak for me, ok?
― Mordy, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Stand down mordy, i's a HOOS in-joke
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
standing down
― Mordy, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link