Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.
I'll go first:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBbMbKSZrQ
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink
I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (six years ago) Permalink
Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?
― kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (six years ago) Permalink
also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (six years ago) Permalink
Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.
― kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (six years ago) Permalink
yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink
what do you think is racist about this song...?
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink
Why's he talking about white girls?
― kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink
for reference:
She's blonde,She's blonde,Comes along the sidewalk.
She's Blonde,Leave a trail of blue and black,Up to you fighting back.
She's Blonde,Steel chains,A noose of charms on our necks.
I find out nothing when we talk and sit,Blue heart passion and watch the set.
Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-
Nineteen,Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.
Nineteen,Drain every beer left over at home,and listen to ghosts in the other room.
I Can't!Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.
Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.
Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-
Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl
having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink
blanking on her name at the moment.
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (six years ago) Permalink
Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENX1Sf3fgQ
Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (six years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink
i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga
colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink
racist, clearly not
would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink
http://altreport.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/09/kings-of-leon-hires-choir-of-black-children-to-make-their-new-mp3-sound-more-soulful.html
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink
It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink
Still waiting for an apology.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink
obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"
(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)
― juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink
carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink
he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink
gonna lol if it was Hype Williams
― juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink
the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (six years ago) Permalink
Sophie Muller directed it.
― Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink
OK, how about this?
http://gawker.com/5643372/this-weeks-new-yorker-cartoon-caption-contest-winner-pretty-racist
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:41 (six years ago) Permalink
more offensive for not being funny
― bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (six years ago) Permalink
http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/zBOSA-500x375.jpg
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (six years ago) Permalink
that was a fake
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink
but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet
so yes, racist
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (six years ago) Permalink
this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (six years ago) Permalink
strictly concern trolling in here.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (six years ago) Permalink
I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (six years ago) Permalink
take it to i love footy
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (six years ago) Permalink
love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning
― jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (six years ago) Permalink
barf
http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png
maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (six years ago) Permalink
http://hipsterhitler.com/
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink
gawker isnt a message board
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink
ilx is my favorite blog
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (six years ago) Permalink
MIXMASTERRACE
EASTSIDEWESTSIDEGENOCIDE
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (six years ago) Permalink
is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc
I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions
― 4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (six years ago) Permalink
Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.
Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (six years ago) Permalink
are the finns a race?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (six years ago) Permalink
Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.
Guess they didn't have Google then either.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),
jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (six years ago) Permalink
Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink
yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink
zorn smash
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink
is this chorus racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink
?
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (six years ago) Permalink
http://dasracist.net/
― am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink
Boris Johnson, a cunt
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink
ah yes, the inheritable distaste for the UK
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink
Johnson, Goldsmith and Cameron all going racist in the run up to the mayoral elections and EU referendum
― just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:08 (one year ago) Permalink
going
― punnerist spoon here (onimo), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (one year ago) Permalink
Sir Lynton Keith Crosby, AO (born 23 August 1956)[1][2] is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.[3] Crosby has been described as a "master of the dark political arts", "the Wizard of Oz", and "the Australian Karl Rove". In 2002, he was called "one of the most powerful and influential figures in the nation" by The Age.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (one year ago) Permalink
well, yes, of course (xp)
― just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:45 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HoON0hvFCw
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:39 (one year ago) Permalink
priceless reaction
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:00 (one year ago) Permalink
belongs on the "rolling 'this is racist' thread" but anyway
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-former-trump-apprentice-stars-cringeworthy-and-racist-i-want-to-be-neenja-video/
I tapped out during the second full-vocal-yellowface verse, this is horrific
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 16 July 2016 17:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink
not even gonna
― Nhex, Saturday, 16 July 2016 18:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink
https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/nWxurwDF2tFnXLqt8OIj8FDBij0=/0x29:497x309/1310x737/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/50144221/CnpBb8SUsAA772m.jpg
― Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink
^ not loading for me?
― based stress reduction (crüt), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Sorry here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2016/07/19/black-olives-matter-billboard-sparks-outrage-and-pizza-sales/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news%3Apage%2Fin-the-news
― Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink
not racist, arguably tone-deaf
― Best Beloved Trumppence (contenderizer), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink
I think it's like +1 for creativity, -1,000 for taste and timing and tone-deafness.
― Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Mmm, I'm gonna go with racist. I have a hard time believing someone was both aware enough of the phrase to consider using an altered version of it in their advertising and totally unaware of how it was likely to be perceived. I just don't think they expected it to become a national news story.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Of course it's racist - or at least insensitive to race. If that crossed my desk at a firm I would veto it.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink
I would say bad taste evincing what is likely underlying racism, if we can split it that finely. A pun on the name isn't *necessarily* racist but the kind of person who would think it was a good idea to use that slogan either (1) doesn't take BLM seriously, because they are racist or (2) is just kind of apathetic and doesn't treat anything with appropriate seriousness.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink
"they" = person(s) who came up with the ad, tbc
broccoli isn't really all that anyway
― kinder, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink
they're not even real black olives, they're just crappy green olives covered in iron to make them look better.
― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink
^ topping truther
― Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony said (contenderizer), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:59 (eleven months ago) Permalink
once this person noticed the pun, they might not have had a choice in the matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witzelsucht
― Treeship, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Thoughts? http://noisey.vice.com/en_au/read/the-frontman-for-gorilla-biscuits-said-something-dumb-about-all-lives-matter-and-a-lot-of-punks-are-pissed-off?utm_source=noiseyfbenglish
my gut is that he worded it very poorly, but in context he seemed to be saying "it is sad that the current state of affairs requires individuals to wear BLM t-shirts to remind us that they matter, because everybody of every race matters. don't let the media tell you that any one group doesn't matter".
I can see why it was interpreted the other way given the clumsy construction of the message but while intent often doesn't matter as much as message, I think Civ probably agreed with BLM at the core.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 8 August 2016 18:01 (ten months ago) Permalink
maybe not racist in itself but a thing that right wingers like to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81dhho3JuK4
― remove butt (abanana), Monday, 8 August 2016 18:18 (ten months ago) Permalink
every punk should know NO LIVES MATTER
http://s205501534.onlinehome.fr/IMAGES%20EBAY/RASTA%20HIPPIE%20LOVE%20AND%20PEACE/motif%20no%20future.jpg
― Ludo, Monday, 8 August 2016 19:52 (ten months ago) Permalink
Blank lives mutter
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 01:07 (ten months ago) Permalink
one of the librarians at our local library sent us home w/ a skippyjon jones book, the fuck is this?? it occured to later that those books were discussed itt a while back and this (mostly otm) post was linked https://soundstudiesblog.com/2014/05/05/speaking-mexican-and-the-use-of-mock-spanish-in-childrens-books-or-do-not-read-skippyjon-jones/
― marcos, Monday, 29 August 2016 19:03 (nine months ago) Permalink
mucho fun
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:14 (nine months ago) Permalink
Yeah, even wth *tera's assurances upthread, I've never liked reading them. We have quite a few from when my son went on a chihuahua kick at age 5 though. I try to avoid dragging them out for our younger kid if I can help it.
― how's life, Monday, 29 August 2016 19:19 (nine months ago) Permalink
"We're going to make our country safe again. We're going to rebuild our inner cities because our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape that they've ever been in before. Ever, ever, ever."
what a dickhead!
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 10:06 (nine months ago) Permalink
Trump perhaps?
― Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 10:08 (nine months ago) Permalink
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-african-americans-cities-228439
bingo. is it more or less racist than his son and his skittles, i wonder
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/trump-son-compares-syrian-refugees-skittles-160920133852094.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 11:32 (nine months ago) Permalink
http://io9.gizmodo.com/disney-pulls-offensive-moana-costume-off-the-shelves-1786938696
― how's life, Thursday, 22 September 2016 14:49 (nine months ago) Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/pb9JUUi.png
trying to read up on opinions on this only brings up the EEOC complaint and right-wing OUTRAGE in reaction. is the flag synonymous with tea partiers and their more recent incarnations? is it a confederate flag cipher?
― just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:29 (seven months ago) Permalink
i don't think it is necessarily racist, it has origins in the american revolution, and has been appropriated by tea partiers in recent years but i don't think it has been wholly co-opted
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:45 (seven months ago) Permalink
it has origins in the american revolution
Possible challop: I don't know how true this is but I have heard theories that the American Revolution was at least partially spurred on by the British making moves towards abolishing slavery, so I'm not sure if this flag originating in the American Revolution makes it not racist.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:05 (seven months ago) Permalink
Facebook apparently has a particular way of translating "negro" from Spanish:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx9tnngUcAAHh8Z.jpg
― ¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:39 (seven months ago) Permalink
(to clarify, this is the status update of an African-American college friend of my wife's and the response from his Cuban wife; also I don't think I've laughed this hard in a while)
― ¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:43 (seven months ago) Permalink
omg
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 18:46 (seven months ago) Permalink
we just did some testing of the translation algorithm and apparently you can only get "negro" to translate as "nigga" if you are ending a question with it
let's ponder that for a moment (once you stop laughing)
― ¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:32 (seven months ago) Permalink
but does it taste like pumpkin?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:36 (seven months ago) Permalink
David S. Negroes?
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:44 (seven months ago) Permalink
this is horrifying and i can't stop giggling
― goole, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:14 (seven months ago) Permalink
A friend from Puerto Rico weighs in (I edited out a name and switched her incorrect reference to Google Translate to Facebook Translate):
The term "negro", as ______ was using it, is a term of endearment in Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. We use "mi negro", "mi negra", "negrito", etc. So maybe Facebook translate might "know" that it is not supposed to translate it as "black", and it is translating it as something like "my nigga"? In any event, Bad Facebook Translate! Bad Facebook Translate!
― ¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:17 (seven months ago) Permalink
"What Stones song did Dad like so much, was it
http://i.imgur.com/2WUEVeE.jpg?"
― pplains, Thursday, 24 November 2016 01:51 (seven months ago) Permalink
well that's embarrassing, everyone knows the non-racist translation is "flex"
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Thursday, 24 November 2016 10:22 (seven months ago) Permalink
Richards describes the famous moment that the Rolling Stones first visited Chess: “We walked into Chess Studios and there’s this guy in black overalls painting the ceiling. And it’s Muddy Waters and he’s got whitewash streaming down his face and he’s on top of a ladder.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 November 2016 10:32 (seven months ago) Permalink
can we let texas secede already, and make puerto rico the 50th state?
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/texas-adoption-agencies-could-soon-ban-gays-jews-muslims-n756201
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:36 (one month ago) Permalink
That is 100% horseshit.
― her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:56 (one month ago) Permalink