rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBbMbKSZrQ

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (nine years ago) link

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (nine years ago) link

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (nine years ago) link

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (nine years ago) link

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (nine years ago) link

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (nine years ago) link

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (nine years ago) link

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (nine years ago) link

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENX1Sf3fgQ

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (nine years ago) link

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (nine years ago) link

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (nine years ago) link

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (nine years ago) link

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (nine years ago) link

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (nine years ago) link

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (nine years ago) link

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (nine years ago) link

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (nine years ago) link

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (nine years ago) link

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (nine years ago) link

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (nine years ago) link

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (nine years ago) link

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (nine years ago) link

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (nine years ago) link

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (nine years ago) link

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (nine years ago) link

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (nine years ago) link

barf

http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (nine years ago) link

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (nine years ago) link

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (nine years ago) link

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (nine years ago) link

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (nine years ago) link

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (nine years ago) link

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (nine years ago) link

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (nine years ago) link

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (nine years ago) link

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (nine years ago) link

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (nine years ago) link

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (nine years ago) link

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (nine years ago) link

is this chorus racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (nine years ago) link

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (nine years ago) link

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (nine years ago) link

It’s stupid as hell. I use that emoji when I wanna use it bc they don’t own it.

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:35 (one year ago) link

the reason they do it is to make libs look like morons

Mordy, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:43 (one year ago) link

I seem to recall an article months back arguing that point

call me cismale (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:44 (one year ago) link

To quote that article I linked to, re: Zina Bash:

Instead of acknowledging her *actual* politics—working for possibly the most overtly racist administration since Americans literally owned other Americans—leftists, liberals, and centrists got caught up in a circle jerk about whether a hand sign that members of the far right have been using to troll us since at least 2015 has any significance.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:45 (one year ago) link

libs are perfectly capable of making themselves look like morons, stfu white power dipshits

Pareene had a great piece the other day about how the youths immediately recognize this shit for what it is because unlike respectable adult media they're not busy dousing everything in gallons of smarm. it's almost always very clear when people are doing shit like this to demonstrate solidarity with racists.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:51 (one year ago) link

it sucks because there's also the age-old "circle game" which we did when we were kids and now you got conservative media screaming "oh now the circle game is RACIST?? I told you they were nuts!!"

frogbs, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:52 (one year ago) link

^yeah

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:52 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/af7LWpb.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:41 (seven months ago) link

I mean, it's a pacifier.

https://i.imgur.com/3FB3fA4.jpg

But...

pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:41 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.startribune.com/iowa-home-with-confederate-nazi-displays-gets-vandalized/566243672/

Only person that's supposed to judge me is the Lord." Yeah, no, I can judge you too, and I judge you to be a racist moron.

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 December 2019 19:50 (five months ago) link

Stark said he had already sold the painting of a flag with a swastika. He said he displayed it in his front yard because the buyer dared him to do it.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 16 December 2019 20:01 (five months ago) link

Art can be powerful, but we strongly disagree with the use of monkeys as images in the fight against racism and were surprised by the total lack of consultation. @SerieA_EN pic.twitter.com/M7wFjhsfj2

— AC Milan (@acmilan) December 17, 2019

Yet another facepalm moment of fighting racism in Italy.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:56 (five months ago) link

I do not understand what is happening there as my first reaction to the picture was "is this a Planet of the Apes throwback" and not anything to do with fighting racism

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:03 (five months ago) link

The Italian football association thought it wise to use a monkey image in different kit colors to send out the message that they are against racism aimed at black players (which is rife in Italian football and way, way out of control recently, w/ bananas thrown on the pitch, monkey sounds chanted at players etc).

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:09 (five months ago) link

At my most lenient I understand it as an odd twist on the "doesn't matter if you're black or white or purple etc" argument. But using monkeys to send out the message you don't want black players to be compared to monkeys? Because monkeys can, apparently, be all colours? Idk man...

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:13 (five months ago) link

Okay, omglolwtfsob

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:18 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

every part of this story is upsetting

A Black Man Had The Cops Called On Him At A Bank While Trying To Deposit A Racial Discrimination Settlement Check https://t.co/E2hJ5erDMk via @juliareinstein

— julia reinstein 🚡 (@juliareinstein) January 23, 2020

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 January 2020 11:32 (four months ago) link

I think we can safely say "yes, that is racist" here.

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:40 (four months ago) link

yeah i think i'm okay with that tbh

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:45 (four months ago) link

TCF sucks.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 24 January 2020 14:49 (four months ago) link

jesus fucking christ

"we could not verify that these checks were valid"
"o rly, then how come Chase was able to deposit them with no issues"
"... the employee working with him is black, that counts in our favor right"

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:54 (four months ago) link

I am over here literally affronted over the deployment of the "we have black employees" defense

I want to flood their email with pictures of Candace Owens

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:56 (four months ago) link

he literally got them on the phone with his attorney, with the police present, and the bank is like "Maybe that's not really your lawyer."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:57 (four months ago) link

Good on him for closing his account

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:59 (four months ago) link

Also, and it feels odd to say this, but good on the police for not escalating this the way that the bank clearly wanted them to (I am assuming that since dude walked out with his checks, they didn't overly hassle him)

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:29 (four months ago) link

A lot of the Detroit area people I know use "Livonia" as shorthand for all the super-racist white flight suburbs as it borders Detroit but is 92% white. I've heard anecdotes about the city trying to enforce residency requirements to use city parks and that at some point the police used the code "NIL" to justify pulling over any black motorists.

joygoat, Friday, 24 January 2020 16:32 (four months ago) link

"N***** In Livonia," I assume?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:36 (four months ago) link

Indeed

joygoat, Friday, 24 January 2020 16:37 (four months ago) link

I've heard anecdotes about the city trying to enforce residency requirements to use city parks

they do this in the Philly suburbs too

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:47 (four months ago) link

I want to flood their email with pictures of Candace Owens

cruel but fair

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:49 (four months ago) link

Extra shitty/inept that the bank spokesperson stated the amounts of the checks and I saw in another article they stated the amount he had in an existing account.

Yerac, Friday, 24 January 2020 18:00 (four months ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/us/ball-state-university-police-seat-change-trnd/index.html

When Sultan Benson, a senior at Ball State University in Indiana, arrived at his Marketing 310 class on Tuesday, his usual seat was taken. His professor, Shaheen Borna, suggested he move to an empty seat toward the back, which he did, Benson told CNN.

But about a half hour into the class, another student left and Borna asked Benson to move up. But Benson was already settled. He'd unpacked his stuff, and his laptop was already out and charging.

When Benson asked why he had to move, the situation escalated.

"Either move your seat or I call the police," Benson recalled Borna saying.

"Are you really about to call the police?" Benson said he asked at the time.

The answer was yes.

j., Monday, 27 January 2020 09:33 (four months ago) link

what the

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2020 14:16 (four months ago) link

Christ what an asshole

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 January 2020 14:50 (four months ago) link

the advertising ploy, which reimagined literary figures from Peter Pan to Frankenstein’s monster as people of color...

Ok, you can just stop right there.

pplains, Saturday, 8 February 2020 04:07 (three months ago) link

You knew it would be involved somehow

Collaborating with the advertising agency TBWA\Chiat\Day New York on the project, the two companies say they used an artificial intelligence (AI) program to “scour the pages of 100 classic literature books that portrayed white characters on the cover and revealed several books in which the protagonist’s race was never specified, only assumed.”

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 February 2020 13:54 (three months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/z5VprLK.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 21 February 2020 15:18 (three months ago) link

lol, whoops

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:05 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/may/11/you-should-ask-china-trump-terminates-press-conference-after-clash-with-reporter-video

Donald Trump's press conference on coronavirus testing ended abruptly after a terse exchange with two female reporters. Asked by CBS's Weijia Jiang about his focus on international comparisons rather than US deaths, Trump snapped: 'Don’t ask me, ask China that question'. After being asked by Jiang, who is Asian-American, why he had directed the remark at her, Trump cut off the CNN reporter Kaitlan Collins as she asked a question and walked away from the podium

pomenitul, Monday, 11 May 2020 22:44 (three weeks ago) link

How can any of us truly know if the president has racism in his heart?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 00:51 (three weeks ago) link

did we not update this last month when he accused Yamiche Alcindor of being "threatening"? because he was certainly racist then, as he is all the time, and I haven't even gotten into this new thing yet.

I watch the PBS NewsHour every night, and because it's the most boring, most level-headed news show on TV I rarely ever experience any sort of human emotion while watching it. But the night after that press briefing in the rose garden when he called Yamiche "threatening," when Judy Woodruff told her on-air that she's an excellent journalist and they're all really proud of her, and Yamiche took the compliment like a pro and was all "wow, thank you" and then kept going with her report and not showing signs of being choked up about it until about twenty seconds later when she pretty obviously started processing Judy's pretty sweet public acknowledgement of her professionalism and drive while being insulted by the fucking President, that a did a little thing to me. she's always kinda nervous and awkward in the way that any determined young reporter would/should be and I couldn't fucking believe it when Don went full-on asshole to her.

Yeah, he has racism in his heart. I can honestly say I have no doubt about it whatsoever.

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 01:14 (three weeks ago) link

Christ what a racist asshole

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 01:25 (three weeks ago) link

he has racism in his heart and in his asshole

sarahell, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 01:29 (three weeks ago) link

But has he tested positive for racism? A lot of armchair doctors around here.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 02:24 (three weeks ago) link

thread of what is racism and is donald trump a racist

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 02:29 (three weeks ago) link

Hmm. Wonder if we can work this one out before we hit 10,000 posts.

pplains, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 02:45 (three weeks ago) link

be nice. didn't they tell you do that at the last newspaper you worked at that you don't work at any more probably because they fired you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q7vxFSnILY

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 02:58 (three weeks ago) link


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