rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBbMbKSZrQ

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENX1Sf3fgQ

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

barf

http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

is this chorus racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Ordering Calle Asada next time I'm downtown.

(and btw, borderlines and upper mizz are two of my favorite things.)

pplains, Thursday, 22 February 2024 03:33 (three days ago) link

<3 it's always nice to see you pop up on ol' ilx

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 February 2024 03:42 (three days ago) link

hardshell tacos are the standard taco

Is This Racist?

bae (sic), Thursday, 22 February 2024 05:18 (three days ago) link

i said "in this context" for the love of god

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 February 2024 05:22 (three days ago) link

the context of a midwestern american mexican restaurant where they list "street tacos" as a menu item

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 February 2024 05:23 (three days ago) link

context sounds kinda racist tbf

bae (sic), Thursday, 22 February 2024 08:54 (three days ago) link

i don't think you know what you're talking about tbf

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:54 (three days ago) link

are nachos racist?

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:07 (three days ago) link

sorry, that was rude of me. i'm just thinking of specific restaurants where i live that do this that are owned by mexican-american immigrants.

tbh i personally don't value "authenticity" in food, if people want to put sugar in their cornbread i will still eat the shit out of it

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:09 (three days ago) link

I can't recall the last time I encountered, let alone ate, hard shell tacos.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:11 (three days ago) link

are nachos racist?

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:07 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

They were created by a Mexican restauranteur, Ignacio Anaya.

peace, man, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:13 (three days ago) link

Sorry, he was maitre d' at the time, but owned a restaurant later in life.

peace, man, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:14 (three days ago) link

In 1943, a group of American women whose husbands were stationed at an airbase nearby visited the restaurant, but Garcia couldn’t find a chef. So he whipped up a snack with whatever he could find in the kitchen, which turned out to be tortilla chips and melted Wisconsin cheddar, Google said.

Like anyone who’s ever eaten nachos, his customers left extremely satisfied.

When he died in 1975, Piedras Negras honored him with a bronze plaque and declared October 21 to be International Day of the Nacho.

Nachos became a sports stadium favorite in 1976, according to Smithsonian Magazine, when a man named Frank Liberto created a “pumpable” version of the liquidy cheese to easily dispense over chips.

Liberto’s “cheese sauce” is a bit more processed than Garcia’s original, but Garcia encouraged change. He refused to patent his recipe, Google says.

lol, "google says"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:27 (three days ago) link

lol. But ok, that seems to come from an article about the Google Doodle about Ignacio. So many layers, like a well constructed plate of nachos.

peace, man, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:57 (three days ago) link

Ha, I didn't even consider that. Google as two different literal sources.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:00 (three days ago) link

I can't recall the last time I encountered, let alone ate, hard shell tacos.

I do. It was a couple months ago in New Mexico, where hard shell tacos are not only popular, but standard afaict.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:03 (three days ago) link

I don't think "street tacos" is a racist term but i do think it's intended for an audience who is not taco-literate

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:04 (three days ago) link

they're not realllllly 'standard' here but they are pretty common (and delicious!)

gbx, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:37 (three days ago) link

no hard tacos anywhere in Oregon that I have seen

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:39 (three days ago) link

probably bc oregon isn't in the southwest? gbx is more informed than i am; i only know that i ordered tacos two times in rural New Mexico and was served delicious crunchy hard shell tacos.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:49 (three days ago) link

makes sense!

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:50 (three days ago) link

We make hard tacos at home but order soft tacos from outside.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:54 (three days ago) link

New Mexico is sort of known for its own distinctive fusion take on Mexican, right? Just like Texas. Checking out wiki adds this little tidbit of data:

"Taco – a corn tortilla fried into a trough shape, it is filled with meats or beans, and fresh chopped lettuce, onions, tomatoes, and cheese.

The term can also refer to the soft, rolled flour-tortilla variety popularized by fast-food chains (a soft taco), and the flat, unfried corn style favored in Mexico (a "street taco"), but most corn tortillas for tacos are fried in New Mexican cuisine."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:55 (three days ago) link

At least around here (so I presume in Mexico as well) you would never put lettuce or tomatoes on a taco.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:57 (three days ago) link

the tacos at el parasol (small local chain) are fried hardshell and i love them

also i think hardshells are not uncommon in parts of mexico, tacos dorados

gbx, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:00 (three days ago) link

We make hard tacos at home but order soft tacos from outside.

exactly the opposite in my kitchen -- i make tacos at least 3x/week but they are always corn tortilla with whatever available filling i happen to have. the only real taco tragedy here are tortillas that haven't been toasted and are functionally raw. no thx.

either way it seems to me that 'street tacos' are a term to help the taco-illiterate distinguish between types of tortilla before ordering them at a restaurant

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:01 (three days ago) link

xpost Aka as flautas.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:01 (three days ago) link

Meanwhile, deviating from Thursday taco talk:

Joe Biden's America... pic.twitter.com/7CLTCafNwM

— House Republicans (@HouseGOP) February 22, 2024

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:22 (three days ago) link

First reply rules:

And yet y’all made Jesus white so what’s your point

— D2 - Duan Dempsey (@duandempsey) February 22, 2024

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:23 (three days ago) link

New man on the Woke A.I. Vikings

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:26 (three days ago) link

I wonder if there's any huge pop culture phenomenon that could have caused an A.I. image scraper to link dark skin and the phrase "founding fathers"...? nahhhh

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:47 (three days ago) link

Oh no, don't ask it for a picture of a mermaid

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:51 (three days ago) link

history messin'

gbx, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:52 (three days ago) link

History messin' is the best part of this. It sounds exactly like a stinger that Kelly would be say at the bottom of one of those Onion cartoons.

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:55 (three days ago) link

HISTORY
MESSIN’

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:15 (three days ago) link

Josh: at my nearest taqueria, "Mexican style" is their shorthand for saying that you only want onion, cilantro, and lime juice.

Their approach is generally Yucatecan, I think, but they'll make you an "American style" with lettuce and tomato.

I don't think I have had a hard-shell taco since maybe 1985 (Old El Paso, from the grocery store). So I guess for me, all tacos are soft tacos. As a result, I stopped saying "soft tacos." I just call them tacos. "Street tacos" is nonsense because I will happily eat a taco in any location.

"Street corn" is another matter. One can just say esquites if that's what you mean.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:15 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhNGr_D2J9k

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:17 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYpBHc8px_U

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:18 (three days ago) link

whew, order restored

https://i.imgur.com/eGiLH59.png

omar little, Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:24 (three days ago) link

Lionel Messin'

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:25 (three days ago) link

sleep that's where I'm a woke AI Viking

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:26 (three days ago) link

First reply rules:

Sheer brilliance.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:07 (three days ago) link

at my nearest taqueria, "Mexican style" is their shorthand for saying that you only want onion, cilantro, and lime juice.

see what's funny is that in my experience, this is what you should get when you order a street taco, and what the taco trucks near me in Oakland used to sell as "tacos." Usually would come with a nice little bag of escabeche, too.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:21 (three days ago) link

my god an image of a "founding father" that isn't congruent with the historical fact that america was foundationally a white supremacist ethnostate centered around on race-based chattel slavery

also wtf is with those fingers lol

re: woman pope - did anyone else grow up hearing the anti-catholic "pope joan" myth? it's so fucking grand guignol. if i didn't know any better i would've thought antonin artaud came up with it.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:33 (three days ago) link

Some versions of the legend suggest that subsequent popes were subjected to an examination whereby, having sat on a so-called sedia stercoraria or 'dung chair' containing a hole, a cardinal had to reach up and establish that the new pope had testicles before announcing "Duos habet et bene pendentes" ("He has two and they dangle nicely"),[17] or "habet" ("he has them") for short.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:50 (three days ago) link

Black Vikings sounds like a terrible British current wave of post-punk band name

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:53 (three days ago) link

AI should stick to its intended purpose: Making ahegao hentai of the Wild Thornberries

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:00 (three days ago) link

Okay but are they fucking the animals or each other

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 23 February 2024 12:39 (two days ago) link

the AIristocrats!

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2024 12:57 (two days ago) link

What would be in a cocktail called the Black Viking?

2oz blackstrap rum (black)
1/2 oz lime (for scurvy)
1/2 oz Cherry Heering float (blood)
rub rim with honey (Mead)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 13:27 (two days ago) link


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