Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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Question for Eric, Morbs, etc. If you had to pick one film post 1989 to vote for in S&S, which would it be? What about post 1999?

fantastic mr. fox, a scene at the sea, 35 shots of rum, the portuguese nun, through the olive trees...

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

more: giliap, take care of your scarf tatiana (or maybe ariel), looking for mushrooms, black rain

probably lots of others

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

ok more: nouvelle vague, commingled containers, long day closes, spirited away, the thin red line...

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

er giliap is 1975, i meant songs from the second floor

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

chungking express, heat, the blade, god knows what else

so many to pick from

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Of the films you guys have listed, how close do you think they'd come to actually making your real ballots? Not even close? Kinda close?

polyphonic, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

a scene at the sea

this is such a rad movie!!

Lamp, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

My post-'89 picks:

My Own Private Idaho
Carlos

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

If I had an actual, real ballot, I'd list Zodiac for sure. I'd probably do something I never do, which is try to be mindful of the poll's lineage and pass over Spellbound as too subjective a pick. (I realize Zodiac's pushing it.)

clemenza, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

i'd throw 'an angel at my table' in there, but i'm inclined to put it in pretty much any movie list i make.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 06:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that one. i love that movie.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link

Of recent vintage, would be tempted by Wong, but not sure which. In the Mood, Happy Together, Fallen Angels, he's the kind of guy (maybe like Tarkovsky too) where lack of a consensus "masterpiece" could keep him off a list like this.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.tnr.com/article/film/102885/the-godfather-anniversary-restoration-cinemark-coppola

I stress the unity of the two films because later this year the British film magazine Sight & Sound will have its once-a-decade poll of film critics to find the ten best films ever made. It’s a game, of course, yet the poll has become a cultural standard because Citizen Kane has won five times now since 1962 and must be considered favorite to win again.

Fair enough, if that’s what people think, but maybe it leaves cinema looking a little passé if our dominant film is 71 years old. Has nothing come along as great since then, not even with all the technical plushness? But the editor of Sight & Sound, Nick James, has advised the electorate that every vote must go to an individual film. You can pick The Godfather and Part II but not as the two halves of one work. I regret that because I think it misses a quality in the work, and diminishes the chances of the total Godfather being voted best film—I’ll guess it’s the most likely threat to Kane.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

Boo hoo.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

The "total" Godfather now seems to willfully exclude Part III.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

fair enough tbh

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

they shd be 2 movies tho, to pretend they're 1 long movie is to ignore the way that the second undercuts and inverts the first

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, MZS's FB feed, for distracting me with this ongoing geekery:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/predictions-you-cant-refuse-previewing-the-sight-and-sound-greatest-films-poll-part-iii

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

my top candidates for #1 are all older than Kane.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

but younger than Abel.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

#teamvertigo

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

Well, #teamrulesofthegame really, but let's be realistic.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder what made S&S reverse course on The Godfathers? Pushback from voters? From readers? From the estates of various directors who fell back of the combined entry last time?

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Because so many of them are still alive.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

The more people I find out have ballots in this thing, the more I have hope that there will be major upheavals.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Why so invested? All this all-time polling crap, about films utterly opposite in style, historical context, and aims, is even more of a parlor game than year-to-year lists.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

"Major upheavals" would be just so much redecorating.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

my top candidates for #1 are all older than Kane.

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but younger than Abel.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

niche lols

i for one am looking forward to finding out what the best film is later in the year

it's definitely not king of new york because the original bad lieutenant is better

Based on the coverage in S&S it seems that 'Beau Travail' and 'Mulholland Drive' are the most likely contemporary films to place.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

got a kick out of lookin at the voting breakdown from 02. zizek voted for dune and some nazi kitsch that ive never heard of.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

james toback voted for get shorty

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think younger critics are less apt to hold specific titles in esteem that older ones, or if they do, in a less herdlike manner (ie the voters this time for TP: Fire Walk with Me will get nowhere). So I wouldn't guarantee a ton of upheaval.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

i for one am looking forward to finding out what the best film is later in the year

lol

otoh when i was a teenager i def used the s&s list as viewing guide so idk

Lamp, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

i would still but now i just watch youtubes

Lamp, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Why so invested?

Like I need to tell a baseball fan.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Plus, games are awesome, parlor or otherwise.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually

1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

Yeah but in baseball the best team actually wins most of the time!

xp

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

also the '55 Dodgers don't play the '98 Yankees

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

^outlier

Reseeing it on Super Bowl Sunday, I found I have no particular affection for Satantango at all.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Cold.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

It is.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

It's so cold in the Dr

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Tarkovsky would be my Tarr.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Smacks of tarkonism.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

tarrnished angels

i was going to watch satantango last week, it's satantango kind of weather


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